Rorschach by Tom King Hardcover Overview!
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- čas přidán 15. 12. 2021
- Today I take a look at the Rorschach Hardcover. I talk about where this take place and if it's set in the Watchmen universe.
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I thoroughly enjoyed reading this series in floppies, I thought it was a very profound book on very real current topics with great art. Not as good as Watchmen obviously but then again what is? I enjoyed this as much as the recent TV series.
I'm so glad you made this video, I had forgotten about this series in all of the Covid delays. Time to go get myself a copy.
This book has Dave Gibbons blessing, so I feel okay reading it. It's also really good.
Ooh... I see what you did there with the Star Wars sneak peak 😍😍
I can’t believe people don’t want watchmen expanded. Crazy. Watchmen deserves more but with nothing but excellent right. HBO did great with watchmen.
Intriguing review. Thanks Omar!
bought the deluxe edition just from ur videos! Thanks
I would have purchased this in *Deluxe Edition.*
I also felt like Watchmen worked best as its own self-contained story, but much like the original Star Wars trilogy, I don’t mind other twists or extensions on the mythos as long as they land. Even when they don’t, the original material is always there.
I’m pulling for Tom King to shock us all one day with a maxi series that has a happy end-conclusion.
Tom King's version of the San Junipero episode of Black Mirror... holy crap, everything isn't terrible.
I picked it up. I needed to wait until it was collected. Tom King's writing style is not conducive to the bi-monthly release schedule by which his work usually is released. So, collected form, I think, will serve my reading experience better.
Omar you sneaky sneaky man. You sneaked in the Rise of the Sith Omni there..didnt ya .
I’m so happy to hear you went against your oath and experienced the continuation of this universe. Because ultimately the movie is great. That HBO series is amazing. And I’m not sure if you’ve read Darwin Cooke’s “Before Watchmen: Minutemen” but you should as it’s an all time classic. It respectably lives up to the quality of original graphic novel. Very worth of the name Watchmen.
i think most of the before watchmen series is great. Minutemen and nite owl were definitely the best ones with ozzymandias being the only one i couldn’t care for.
I enjoyed the movie I never would have read the novel without it. The show however...yeah put that shit in the trash where it belongs. Oh I have a great fucking idea let's do a reimagining of the original story and butcher all these beloved characters at the same time.
You thought the HBO series was amazing, I take it you never actually watched it, because if you had, there's no way, absolutely zero ways, you could've said that skid stain on the Watchmen IP was good.
@@TreVader1378 Didn't ya just love when Dr Manhattan gave his balls away...
Tom King is very inconsistent for me. I loved his Superman story but have hated Batman / Catwoman. Some of his Batman run was good but a lot of it wasn't. Still this looks interesting and I might buy in a month or two.
I collected the trade dress floppies, absolutely loved the pacing writing and art !
Hey Omar, sorry if you mentioned this but I skipped parts of your video so I can go in blind. Can this be read with only having read the original Watchmen? I don't need knowledge of Doomsday Clock do I? Cheers mate!
Absolutely. As a matter of fact I can’t imagine reading this without reading Watchmen.
@@NearMintCondition thanks! Enjoy your Christmas with the fam mate!
It's completely unconnected to Doomsday Clock, but that's a good read too if you buy the trade
There was one variant cover they left out it was a white cover that looked like it was a little dirty but it had silver letters saying Rorschach
Edit it was called cover C
I think I'll pick it up. I enjoy Tom King's work (although I haven't read his Batman or Heroes in Crisis yet) and I'm a huge fan of gritty street level crime/detective stories. I wish they didn't use Watchmen characters so I have some reservations about picking it up. I wish that instead of using Watchmen characters they could use some of the original characters they were based on. In the case of Rorschach it would be the Question. I liked Lemire's take on the Question and of course I love the Denny O'Neal comic from the 80s. I just wish there were more Question comics out there. From what I could tell from your preview it looks like something I'll like so I'm going to pick it up. How would you compare King's Strange Tales to Rorschach? Better? Worse? Indifferent? This enquiring mind would like to know! Thanks as always for your content!
Strang Adventures is one of his lesser works. Rorschach is way better, one of his best if not his best books imo.
I agree. I never read before watchmen for that same reason but Tom King mini/maxi series never disappoint so I ordered this book. Great review. As always.
Not gonna watch because I don’t want to know any plot before my copy arrives but have a video like!
You had "Issues." HA! I get it! ;)
Heardmixed things about this book. Still unsure if to get it or not. Loved Doomsday clock though.
When will we see your collection video?
I'm a big Rorschach fan, my friend got me the book for Xmas and I just finished it like 10 minutes ago. It's a good book, the story is pretty solid and the characters are dynamic and interesting, good dialogue, the plot gets pretty thick so you really have to pay attention to the details in it. Overall it's good, but it's really fucking weird.
I hope they realease a deluxe edition of this like watchmen
Can someone explain how Myerson's and Rorschach's fingerprints matched? Was it because they didn't really match and the person who said they did just lied?
The “collector” who had Rorschach’s fingerprints was traded some of myerson’s art for doing them the favor of sending in fake fingerprints if things went tits up (at least that’s what the detective figures must’ve happened)
One of the top 3 or 4 writers currently in comics
I think is a masterpiece
The HBO series takes place 30 yrs after the original watchmen. I very much enjoyed the series,that reminds me more of a continuation rather than a sequel. Well made,by fans of the original series. I did get a kick more out of Lovecraft Country, it was more straight forward in pace and plot as to the series was more character development and interaction, in which I admired. It's just you have to sit there and pay 100% attention,because of its heavy character development/interaction. Did you enjoy the R series by brain and lee? Where does that fit in? As well as Before watchmen?
I absolutely loved the series. It was amazing. Wish they would make more, but like Watchmen, it does not need a season 2.
Good overview.
Read this digitally before buying, people.
Did you read any of the before watchmen series?
I tried. I think I did the Gibbons series and a couple of other issues.
@@NearMintCondition Ozymandias and The Comedians story were both really good in my opinion, everything else was very hit and miss. The Silk Spectre was probably the best out of the other stories, cause it was very well contained. The before watchmen omnibus is frustrating purely on the lay out choice. It's printed in the order the issues were released in, so you go from like an issue of rorschach right into an issue of Dr Manhattan that has nothing to do with the last story you read, it's pretty jarring.
I agree with the fact that the watchmen should be left how it's supposed to be but since rorschach is such a badass and my favorite character from the watchmen i'm gonna have to check this out!
Tough for me to want to read this without Alan Moore’s blessing but it looks real good. Great overview! Love the book design :D Hopefully the inevitable OHC will look just as good!
I'm sure we'll get one, brother. In a year or so.
What I really want to know is... how much of Rorschach do we actually get in this book? Do we get to see plenty of Rorschach being a badass or what? Doesn't look like it watching you flip through it. It's what I would both want and expect from a book with his name on it.
That would be spoiling it, but all I can say there is little of Walter.
It’s a political murder mystery thriller. If anything the Rorschach is more of a figure than anything.
He was a figure in the Watchmen series. Dr. Manhattan and Oziamondy are jerks. Rorschach is liked buns group of racists. He was right. Not into cover ups
Personally i liked tom kings rorschach better than the tv show. Its a great mystery not as good as the original but its deff up there. And it gets surreal and trippy. Definitely feels like a follow up to the original.
Aw man does that mean the Adam Strange Hardcover is going to be standard size too? Sad days
Amazon shipped mine yesterday! And Rorschach is my fave Watchnan character! And I cab't watch anymore of this SPOILERS.
I hope you enjoy it
Look at the pretty pictures 😂😂😂😂
doomsday clock was great
Lot to say here. First off it is an absolute shame what happened to Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons in DCs dealings with them and Watchmen. I know people will just leave it plainly as well they signed the contract and that's their fault. Grant Morrison said something like you cannot expect corporations to behave like anything other than corporations. Their main goal is to pad their bottom line. The people in charge may be nice and friendly and cool to hang out with but don't get it twisted they're not your friends. They serve the corporation. Lawyer up. Protect yourself. I mean the incidents with Siegel and Shuster getting Superman taken from them, Jack Kirby getting screwed over with Marvel, Bill Finger getting cheated out of credit with Batman, etc etc. The history was all there. They were being really naive. But having said all that it is still wrong and I feel for them because they are human beings that wanted to do what they love and share it with the world. Now on to WB/DC using the Watchmen world. That doesn't get me all that upset. I take it on a case to case basis. I really really do not want them to overuse the world as it will over dilute the importance of them and the original story. Lot of credit to longtime DC publisher Paul Levitz who honored his word to Alan Moore to never publish a Watchmen sequel or spinoff. The Snyder movie still happened and Moore acknowledged that was WB doing and out of Levitz's control. Levitz was aware that Dan Didio had the Before Watchmen stuff lined up and really wanted to do it. Levitz suppressed it until he stepped down. Didio and DC went ahead with the Before Watchmen series. Now to the case by case basis. The Zack Snyder movie. Eh. It's alright. Very ambitious. Tried to keep a faithful adaptation to the source material but ultimatey he was adding his own flair of fetish style slow motion and making the violence over the top. It's really as good as it's gonna get as far as a faithful adaptation of the original series from Hollywood. I actually really did like the change to Ozymandias' plan. That was a lot cooler and worked better for the universe. Even Gibbons said as much. The Before Watchmen series'. Ugggh. The stories were very basic that could have been told with other DC characters. They tried filling in gaps that didn't need filling in. It was just a lazy cash grab. The art was phenomenal though. They brought the best in and they did a tremendous job with the mediocre scripts they were given. The only one that was actually pretty good was Darywn Cooke's written and drawn Minutemen series. I think the next use of Watchmen by DC was Doomsday Clock. That's a really tricky one. I haven't read it but it looks awesome. The reviews on amazon are universal. It's a classic. It has around 1500 reviews averaging close to 4.5 stars. Yeah it's good. It seemed kinda of surface level when it was announced. That it would be almost like an apology for the New 52. It would pick up on Dr. Manhattan's last line in the original series about wanting to create new life. Kinda a hint that he created the New 52 universe. Whoa. I think it evolves into something much more. I can't wait for a deluxe edition to that as that is the only way I collect comics. This series I cannot wait for a deluxe edition as well. Tom King is an amazing writer and I think he is worthy of taking on the Watchmen universe. Can't wait to read it. I don't know if this mixes the Watchmen universe with the main DC universe but I hope that is a well DC rarely goes to if at all going forward. The HBO TV show is amazing. It really surprised me and is in the spirit of the original comic series and tells an awesome sequel to to the original. I know I said a mouthful as this is an extraordinarily complex issue. Thanks for the overview Omar! Take care and peace!
This was lots to say. But I read it all. Seriously. Thank you for the insight. I had issues with some things in there. Mainly the FM revelation and the need for Strong man. But I loved the mystery and the imagery.
@@NearMintCondition Thanks. I really appreciate the response. Just kinda confused. What is the FM revelation and Strong man? Thanks Omar. Take care and peace.
Kinda off topic But :
What I don’t get is the (I think) recent phenomenon of Marvel
Making the front hard cover (not the dust jacket cover) of some Omnibus
The alternate cover to what’s on the dust jacket cover.
Examples: Cloak and Dagger Volume Two, X-Men Inferno Prologue.
Why??
If I’m picking a specific dust jacket I want the front hard cover to be the SAME as that on the
Dust jacket (or alternatively a solid color or a Logo cover ).
If you put the same cover on the front hard cover as the dust jacket
I wouldn’t mind the alternate cover being the BACK hard cover -
But NOT the front hardcover !
Obviously I’m not going to buy two of each volume just so I can have the same dust jacket cover
AND the same front hard cover - That should be the way it comes in the first place !
I can’t be the only collector who thinks this , Yes? ✌️🤷♂️
You get both covers instead of just one, I don't see how that's a bad thing
@@dynamicpenguin55 Uh, No 🤦♂️
Do I have to watch the TV show first to better appreciate this book?
You should check out the show it’s amazing.
You have to read Moore's Watchmen.
@@mawinstallation6626 Done that. Thanks.
No, you don't.
Read this one monthly and actually looked forward to each issue but was waiting to see if they hardcover was going to oversized or not before ordering it. Bummer that it isn't, but I'll probably still pick it up to read it as one full story. I'm also likely in the minority here. but I've never gotten past the first 4 issues of Watchmen and only picked this up because of I've been a fan of all of Tom Kings works. It was still enjoyable as its own detective book in my opinion,
Rorschach is my favorite character from Watchmen. Haven't read Doomsday Clock, dunno if I should pick this up.
Same,love Rorshach,sold my 1-5 singles of this series,it was terrible.
This is a different type of Rorschach. That’s all I will say without spoiling anything.
If you like Tom king you’ll like Rorschach, it really has zero to do with doomsday clock. In fact doomsday clock is an end cap to the rebirth era. If you dislike Tom king you will dislike Rorschach, aside from a couple of mentions of past events in the watchmen universe this really has Nothing to do with watchmen and is its own thing.
Chose Strange Adventures over this, I've heard....eh things, tbh.
But, for those who liked it, I'd love to hear other takes on it. 😌
[technically, Strange Adventures is going to be my final-trial on whether or not I keep following King's writing.
Been reading his stuff from Vision, to Mr Miracle, to his Batman Rebirth run and Heroes in Crisis,
and kind of noticed recurring characterizations that kind of take me out of the books, as well as similar story beats that kind of made it easier to predict.
Hopefully S.A. wows me though, since I originally liked Mr Miracle and Vision, and even parts of Batman Rebirth were fun.
But...those issues that don't hit highs, even among those iconic runs..
..they've kind of built into me wondering why I'm spending my money on it. 😅
Though maybe this is just my first time falling out of love with a writer. 😏
Kind of have the same dissonance between Morrison on Animal Man, and modern Morrison, like Multiversity. ]
You should've chosen Rorschach over Strange Adventures
@@uzzab6937 I really should have.
I bought the german Panini Version of this. Panini have split up the Story into 4 Volumes at the trim size of an Absolute Edition for a price of 15€ euch Volume. Every Volume contains 3 issues.
Now that DC Comics had Just released this in Standard Trim Size I am happy with the Panini Version.
I am right now at issue #5. I am a little bit afraid Tom King f***ed it up with the story after reading the other comments here.
Not much of a watchmen fan, but I like Jorge Fornés art
Omar, review some cyberfrog.
I haven’t even reviewed CYBERFORCE nor Ninja Turtles.
As a Boston Terrier owner I will never buy another Tom King book after what he did to Jae Lee. Some of you will know the story.
.............raw shark..... bye
Ill never buy another Tom King book again.
Not after the garbage he pulled on Jae Lee.
Alan Moore is the only Watchmen writer for me. But to each their own.
Disappointed that you broke your oath. I have not watched the TV show, didn't read/buy Before Watchmen, Doomsday Clock or Rorschach. Never will,. I have too much respect for Alan Moore. But this is your channel,
It’s less about respect and more with understanding license holding. If it was written for image and it was his baby, sure. No more Watchmen, but it’s owned by DC. So sadly it was work for hire. But stay strong and stay away from these things :)
@@NearMintCondition Thanks for your explanation but the deceit used to make it work for hire has been clearly documented and is disgusting. But I'm also a hypocrite b/c I should really boycott all of DC for how they have treated Alan Moore. I haven't boycotted all of DC so I'm not as high and mighty.
Watchmen was a cool series. Kind of woke, The people who liked Rorschach were racist. The new Rorschach is black.
This one is trash. Good review tho.
The watchmen expansions have been fun so far. Except the hbo series which was terrible
Huge Rorshach fan here,and I must say this series is complete garbage,to put it nicely,I was extremely disappointed in the writing,it has little to do with my man Rorshach,sadly. Save your time and money,re read Watchmen instead. 2 of dozens of creator vids on why Kings Rorshach is horrible. czcams.com/video/fwMYVWh_sXM/video.html czcams.com/video/0AOW58Zc3us/video.html
Without getting into spoilers. The umm revelation of FM what the hell? I have mixed feelings about it and I tried to separate it from my strong feelings about Watchmen.
@@NearMintCondition Honestly Omar,the FM thing was at best Unprofessional on Kings part,I found it impossible to separate that from the rest of the story,but I hope others find the series enjoyable. King was amazing in his Swamp Thing writing way back,but has seriously fallen off the last many years since then. Cheers.
Tom King is insane. This guy has the ABILITY to write great stuff but mostly is garbage. This thing was unreadable.