indeed i graduated from university 2 years ago with a degree in accountancy and only just recently landed myself a zero hour contact job as a waiter and barman, so i still have to sign on and off now and again
No but everyone can make a decent humble living without acting like some edgy teen. You don't deserve riches if yoy don't work hard or create something of value.
No-one deserves riches. No-one deserves poverty. There's other kinds of success and other kinds of incentives. Everything new and most things that are cool are invented by people trying to do something else instead of grind for money, and build a community.
no i have no wish to listen that bollocks, in case you didnt get it clever kids in the 80s were treated as stupid and put in stupid and stupider classes at school,so they got bored and fucked about, try listening to what trevor is saying, he is intelligent but feels like he is talking to retards, david leland could of been inside my head in 1982, i felt this way and i got expelled from school even though i passed my mock english exam with 98% guess what i wanted to get expelled so i did, i played there game better than them, i had white and british tattooed on my forehead not because i hate anyone just to prove a point about how people judge people ,i was 15 and i knew i would get expelled, but they didnt understand that i did it on purpose, they thought i was stupid but inside my head i was manipulating them ,they told me i would be nothing ,my head of year in his stupid tweed jacket, fact is i have my own bricklaying business, and a vintage 2 stroke motorcycle business i have more money than any teacher, i never wanted to be a doctor or a laywer or some fukwit in an office, i despise those people ,lets be honest the lockdown has proved it, i worked all through it because houses cant be built from home, and not 1 person on most trains or the roads, just shows they aint needed just job creation schemes their jobs are of no importance, unlike us who build the houses you live in the offices you work in the shops you buy food in etc etc, im glad i did what i did ,i have the most loyal and trustworthy friends in the world and my beautiful children ,been married 4 times to very good looking women even though i have tattoos on my face, and do you know why? because im not some false middle class fool pretending to be someting they arent, what you see is what you get and i can laugh at anything, and make others laugh, social workers are as corrupt as all goverment minions, the powers that be want to keep the white working class majority stupid because if they understood the power they have it would bring an end to there self serving shite, i can go anywhere in this country ,but the middle class aint welcome, i was born and bred in sussex but ive been to some bad places, like beeston in leeds ,i can walk into that estate with burnt out roofs boarded up houses a shop that only serves you through a metal grille and i will be alright because im one of them,if you did my betting is you wouldnt walk out alive
@@alanjax7685 well put I've experienced similar myself and can relate to it even though I left school in 76 I saw the system for what it was/is . Not the sharpest tool in the shed but as a kid on the moon landing I said to my dad how's camera man got there if him coming out the landing craft supposed to be first man on moon bollox. You don't need paperwork to be clever you have to suss things out yourself CLEVER TREVOR
@@stephendallison1465 im not into conspracy theories ill leave that to ron hubbard and his weirdos ,if the yanks didnt land on the moon im sure the russians would of called them out! tbh i couldnt care less if a man went to the moon, tell me what good it did? hundreds of millions of dollars spent for no reward? a pointless exercise ,"o look a new star" ridiculous nonsense the money would be better spent on solutions to the worlds over population crisis
@@denzino4905 Nah, I was just trying to be humorous. The only comparison I drew was with this scene. Reminds me of when Neo was in that room with the agents at the beginning of the film, they were lecturing him. One life has a future, the other does not. Go to school, get a job, work hard, keep your head down, conform to societal norms etc. Followed up by physical threats if he did not comply.
@@RedSkyHorizononly the emancipation he was looking for was anarchy. However it is true that modern day society is a matrix set up to subjugate the human spirit and dignity.
The entire scene is great, Tim Roth puts on an amazing performance but the Superintended (Geoffrey Hutchings) puts on one of the best performances I've ever seen in a film. It never comes off as condescending, like the after school specials I grew up with in the US.
One of the best for me too - his experience-weary delivery of his no-nonsense summary of Trevor's situation is done perfectly. Dammit, even his chalk writing and arrows are perfect.
That entire scene was spot on, that's exactly how it would go down in Britain, it's exactly how it is in England and Scotland still to this day it's how the youth get spoken to, it's a shame things havent changed much considering the years go by but attitudes never change eh buddy 🤷♂️ I've been born and raised in scotland it's not as severe here as it is in england and that's not a dig at them but racial hatred is still as rife as it was in the early 80's... if only people learned to live together instead of against each other the world would be a better place but I cant see it ever changing now it's too late... this film really hit hard
Tim Roth is good, very very good, but Geoffrey Hutchings' immensely commanding blackboard scene is the most memorable part of the film for me. It's easily one of the most powerful performances I've ever seen on film.
VANHELSINGVIDZ The ending was one of those "Wait, I want to see what happens next!" type of endings. Overall this was a powerful movie. Roth did an amazing job playing the part of "Trevor".
It ended just the way it should. Just like Scum. Suicide, riot then it ends wiv a moment of rememberance and silence for their less fortunate borstal bruvva.
@@theBigLubarski_1977 because it was originally part of a series called Tales out of school this was the fourth part of it according to google but years ago i always thought it was odd that on the dvd cover trevor was with a black lad in a prison yard so there was more to the story
@@theBigLubarski_1977 The other ones in that collection are Birth Of A Nation, Flying Into the Wind and RHINO (Really Here In Name Only), all about different kinds of teenage problems in the British school and social services systems in the UK in the early 1980s, as Thatcher was destroying good jobs and strangling the welfare state and causing myriad intended and unintended consequences in people's lives being ruined. Since I was at school in those years, a hell of a lot of this is recognizable to me. It wasn't great, although perhaps it never is.
exactly how i felt at that age dc.borstal then prison.im not boasting about it i felt the same did what i did learnt more very street wise.i am what i am.i have scruples.morals.respect women and kids.love life enjoyed my past a great journey.and im proud i did it all my way.like trevor brought it all on myself and why not.great film and true
+RUDI UK For a nation of mongrels, invaded in waves from the continent over centuries, the national view some Brits have of themselves and their country is mildly amusing and just a little sad.
"You" being who exactly? The only people stealing from you are the government (yes those predominantly rich white British guys) and the corporations who avoid paying taxes. You are being played as a fool and a puppet if you honestly believe immigrants are your enemy.
+H. Hassan This is rhetoric based on a tired tradition of fear and hatred most prominently used by the far right to gain broad base support (most notably from the disenfranchised working class and often through times of financial hardship) for cynical political gain. The same rhetoric has been said about the Jews, the Irish, Afro Carribeans, Asians, Polish, Roma-Gypsies and Catholics etc. for centuries depending on the political climate. It's a blinkered perspective that leads to racial/religious hatred and blanket statements that entire cultures and religions are the nameless/faceless danger at your door. Is that really what you believe Britain is? If that's the case then the terrorist have already won. I beleive most Brits are fair and decent people, the same goes for immigrants, or anyone else for that matter. Why would you let the voice and actions of a fanatical few colour your perspective so radically?
Ya know this drama was a living reality in youth culture of the 1980s a true reflection of the then system...The Exploited song uk82 was a classic..and The Trevor jacket was a big seller in army stores on uk high streets...😢
Trevor as a point in regarding social engineering, I remember all to well a classic education debate in which a MP states that inner city schools dont receive equal education as posh kids on account of, We dont wont working class children thinking above there station, After all we need our factories full todo the work!!!
What cracks me up is that the superintendent reprimands Trevor by telling him “not to be clever/smart”, yet somehow tries to give him advice on how to develop such traits in order to stay on the right side of the law..........
He doesnt tell him to be clever or smart - when Trevor acts the prick - he says "still being clever still being smart" to make him realise what a fucking asshole he looks.
I know. I was only kidding. Even to this day, people like Trevor can still be a bit arrogant and cocky. Bad enough that we have freeloaders always finding pretexts for their so-called “entitlements”.
Pastor, I think when he was saying "clever/smart" to Trevor was another way of saying smart aleck or smartass in a sarcastic way....without saying he is being dumb. I guess. But they see his intellect in the way he navigates his world, they see it in his justifications for being the way he is...they recognize that Trevor sees the problems a lot of us don't see, but believe that if he wants to make those changes, he needs to make them within the confines of the law and within the confines of the system that we have laid out for those citizens who conform. I agree, I was a punk and really rebelled against the abitrary laws, values, and moral obligations expected of us and in my mind thought, "what is the nature of all this arbitrariness in the grand scheme of the cosmos"...who do we think we are, the little things we are, to make rules about right and wrong if we never sat down to philosophically discuss the nature of authority, law, and justice....I was and still am upset that we let our confidence in science and governing systems develope faster then our ability create an efficient moral and ethical foundation to base all that on.
@@geriatricpimp7835 The fact that you called me a pastor - I’m not sure whether that was a typo error or a mistake in speech - does not give me any honour whatsoever. 😂 Have you watched a film called “Scared Straight”? It was released in 1978 and in it, you have a group of convicts called “Lifers” who come in and testify the horrors of being indefinitely locked up in a place where there are no benefits.
Note how Trevor only respects 3 people in this film. 1 The superintendent - giving it to Trevor straight - note how he doesn't contradict anything he says. 2. Harry Parker - a gritty no nonsense social worker who writes Trevor off at the end of the film 3. The PC who truncheons Trevor on the knees. This may give us a glimpse of what Trevor lacked at home - a father/authority figure - as he responds to a strong masculine authority figures who are just in their dealings with him in these cases I have highlighted. The assessment officer who tries to bargain with Trevor fails to notice this - and his plan to placate Trevor by giving in to his demand to drive a car at the demolition derby, backfires as Trevor had done nothing to earn this priviledge and it only re-inforced his disrespect for the people who work there - undoing much of the good work done by the superintendent's speech. The two assessment officers made a huge error in allowing Trevor an opportunity to go off on his brainless racist anti authority rant and he should have been escorted back to his quarters in silence to reflect on what he had heard.
I'd say only the Superintendent and Harry Parker had his respect myself, as they both had information that Trevor knew he needed, whereas the PC had only a truncheon.
The final scene is great. Trevor's been getting away with taking the piss out of social workers and council employees because he knows they can't lay a finger on him. Then he bumps up against two knackered coppers who are in no mood for his shit and quickly let him know it.
Wish the movie showed more of Trevor's Home life and why he became very hateful towards society and everything. And what happened to him after being sent to a detention center
somehow I don't think colin was trevor unless he got smarter and had a serious personality transplant in a short period of time. Plus Trevors younger than colin
Theses movies show us how the way life use to be beyond our parents that did not know what we was up to those days ago have now gone from the 80s if you was me you would understand why these get put up here
I did exactly what trevor did and say i went to dc.borstal and prison and learned a hell of alot more than i did growing up at school. city and guilds in dairy farm at 16.drove big machinery city and guilds in brick laying.and most of all look after myself and dont belive all the bullshit your told by authorities and most of all no one can take away what i think.i beat the system im happy and love life and would change nothing.miss being a skin
Compare Trevor to Colin (in 'Meantime' 1984) the same cockney accent but completely different characters (meantime also has Phil Daniels and Gary Oldman and Pam Ferris).
Shame he didn't pay attention to it. They were patronising him after saying he was intelligent, someone who is wouldn't of left a trail back to his crimes.
“... They were patronising him after saying he was intelligent,” I don’t think the blackboard thing was patronising at all. The superintendent laid out the situation in stark terms and let Trevor make his own choice.
"Nobody wants a failure on their hands" love it, brilliant script - highlight of the film the super's speech should be played to all youth that cant be bothered to get their arses out of bed mon to fri term time.
This should be studied in colleges. Extremism works both ways. It’s scary, disturbing and incredibly relevant to today’s society. Things don’t change, not really. It may change on a piece of paper or in a job title or the name of the place we as a society stick those we don’t know what to do with but things are the same. People don’t change, deep established culture doesn’t change. Do we honestly think that Boris or Jeremy C.Hunt give a shit about the working class, lower middles class, Northern families, struggling high streets, immigrants or ‘troubled’ kids. They don’t give a fuck. Prime Minister looks very good on a CV. Left for dead is a programme on BBC3 you should check out if you like this. The world might change but people don’t. We are a bacteria, we spread, we over consume and we destroy those weaker than us or those who scare us. We’re all fucked.
I hear the Superintendent, I know that cycle, but I totally agree with Trevor (minus the racism and thieving). School teaches you how to be a slave. Prison teaches you how to survive life. Honest people are the most dishonest people I know (The dammed Pastor's son shares his devil's lettuce with me). Criminals are some of the most loyal (Local Crackhead has a key to my yard so he can open up for work). It's all about respect, not control. I don't respect anyone who thinks they're better than me, and I'm no better than anyone else. We're all just another way the Universe stores Carbon... We ain't special... Neither are they... F*** society, just enjoy your own experience whilst you can.
Enjoy life? With a bunch of legalists in every nook and cranny of the avenue giving you the run around? If you were to think above your levels and pull an abused dog from the pit it wouldn’t matter much because the government bends to the will of liberty-takers. You know why there are politicians? Because nobody with a right mind knows how to follow things through properly. Instead they sit in their chairs, bicker amongst themselves over prices, play for keeps, fight over trends and put you in the waiting line for hours, especially when it comes to justice. In a perfect world, every one of us should be looking out for each other, autocratic or theocratic, because there are morals and principles that have been set in stone since time immemorial, and unfortunately most of us have been breaking them in order to be “different”. Someone attacks you for lying but has a bottle of vodka in their hand. You point a finger back at him for drinking but have a stain on your shirt. Who’s right? You or him? It can be anyone - a teacher, a police officer, a judge, or any oblivious or politically star-studded member of authority.
Honesty's a funny thing. It's only good as long as they like what you're saying. Superb writing and acting but Tim Roth makes the others look like am dram.
+Jay Hunter What a pleasant fellow you are. No not because they didn't get success but because Roth was so convincing in the role. I would have thought that was blindingly obvious to anyone, even a Goof Troll like you.
***** What's it to you anyway? You wouldn't know acting if it fell in your lap and played Dixie out it's ass on a trombone. All you're capable of doing is Trolling year old comments on youtube, hiding behind a library PC because you're daddy won't buy you one until you' re 13. Grow up and get a life you ridiculous goof.
***** I really don't understand childish idiots who have nothing better to do that rant on about a comment they so obviously misunderstood. You're entitled to your opinion but I wasn't the one who started the slagging match with someone they don't know or understand. You stared out with rude and infantile insults so you shouldn't be surprised that I rose to the bait. You are most welcome to come and visit me any time you see fit. I would happily supply you with my address and we could sit down with your chaperone and discuss your case with them to see if there's a way forward for you from this terrible affair.
If you take out the slurs and racist remarks Trevor is not far off from stating things that blacks and browns do and his points and arguments are correct
Aside from Tim Roth's iconic performance, the late Geoffrey Hutchings is very good in this scene also, as the Superintendent.
Trevor doesn't insult or slag off the Superintendent because the Super doesn't bullshit him.
Yeah I noticed that, and He's the only one who shut Trevor down successfully and made him listen.
How do the other two bullshit him exactly?
Yeah i would like to know the answer to that too @sjacrane
he's also intimidated by his presence of mind and natural authority.
Up to here, no-one has confidence above his own + can stand up to him
another moment is this one: 17:47 - the dude shared some honesty about the situation. Trevor's tone completely changed as he conceded "yeah... right."
the black board monologue was one of the highlights of the film, exceptionally well acted
Wasn’t it just. Geoffrey Hutchins and Tim Roth nail this scene. Fact !!
All in one take also
@@TonyDAnnunzio Yes, very very impressive acting.
Hopefully by now this movie has giving you some new meaning to life my fellow ….
“Don't look forward to the day you stop suffering, because when it comes you'll know you're dead.” ― Tennessee Williams
Its arty bollocks.
Don't fall for the bullshit.
Is Tennessee Williams really relevant
to a skinhead prog ?
Trevor's got a point. Not everybody can be a success and get a highly paid life or succeed at school.
indeed
i graduated from university 2 years ago with a degree in accountancy and only just recently landed myself a zero hour contact job as a waiter and barman, so i still have to sign on and off now and again
No but everyone can make a decent humble living without acting like some edgy teen. You don't deserve riches if yoy don't work hard or create something of value.
No-one deserves riches. No-one deserves poverty. There's other kinds of success and other kinds of incentives. Everything new and most things that are cool are invented by people trying to do something else instead of grind for money, and build a community.
That says everything!!!!
Ive been through the "successful life". Its meaningless without happiness and im all out of it. This movie reminds me of the real me inside.
Anybody else have this urge to learn the social worker's speech in it's entirety. Amazing piece of acting from all concerned.
Yes that's why I'm here
Yes and not just the speech, his blackboard skills are exceptional.
no i have no wish to listen that bollocks, in case you didnt get it clever kids in the 80s were treated as stupid and put in stupid and stupider classes at school,so they got bored and fucked about, try listening to what trevor is saying, he is intelligent but feels like he is talking to retards, david leland could of been inside my head in 1982, i felt this way and i got expelled from school even though i passed my mock english exam with 98% guess what i wanted to get expelled so i did, i played there game better than them, i had white and british tattooed on my forehead not because i hate anyone just to prove a point about how people judge people ,i was 15 and i knew i would get expelled, but they didnt understand that i did it on purpose, they thought i was stupid but inside my head i was manipulating them ,they told me i would be nothing ,my head of year in his stupid tweed jacket, fact is i have my own bricklaying business, and a vintage 2 stroke motorcycle business i have more money than any teacher, i never wanted to be a doctor or a laywer or some fukwit in an office, i despise those people ,lets be honest the lockdown has proved it, i worked all through it because houses cant be built from home, and not 1 person on most trains or the roads, just shows they aint needed just job creation schemes their jobs are of no importance, unlike us who build the houses you live in the offices you work in the shops you buy food in etc etc, im glad i did what i did ,i have the most loyal and trustworthy friends in the world and my beautiful children ,been married 4 times to very good looking women even though i have tattoos on my face, and do you know why? because im not some false middle class fool pretending to be someting they arent, what you see is what you get and i can laugh at anything, and make others laugh, social workers are as corrupt as all goverment minions, the powers that be want to keep the white working class majority stupid because if they understood the power they have it would bring an end to there self serving shite, i can go anywhere in this country ,but the middle class aint welcome, i was born and bred in sussex but ive been to some bad places, like beeston in leeds ,i can walk into that estate with burnt out roofs boarded up houses a shop that only serves you through a metal grille and i will be alright because im one of them,if you did my betting is you wouldnt walk out alive
@@alanjax7685 well put I've experienced similar myself and can relate to it even though I left school in 76 I saw the system for what it was/is . Not the sharpest tool in the shed but as a kid on the moon landing I said to my dad how's camera man got there if him coming out the landing craft supposed to be first man on moon bollox. You don't need paperwork to be clever you have to suss things out yourself CLEVER TREVOR
@@stephendallison1465 im not into conspracy theories ill leave that to ron hubbard and his weirdos ,if the yanks didnt land on the moon im sure the russians would of called them out! tbh i couldnt care less if a man went to the moon, tell me what good it did? hundreds of millions of dollars spent for no reward? a pointless exercise ,"o look a new star" ridiculous nonsense the money would be better spent on solutions to the worlds over population crisis
Rest in Peace Geoffrey Hutchins
A damn fine actor
The hardcore British version of The Matrix.
I’m intrigued and never seen this. How does this film compare to the matrix?
@@denzino4905 Nah, I was just trying to be humorous. The only comparison I drew was with this scene. Reminds me of when Neo was in that room with the agents at the beginning of the film, they were lecturing him. One life has a future, the other does not. Go to school, get a job, work hard, keep your head down, conform to societal norms etc. Followed up by physical threats if he did not comply.
@@RedSkyHorizon Ohhh I get what you’re saying
@@RedSkyHorizononly the emancipation he was looking for was anarchy. However it is true that modern day society is a matrix set up to subjugate the human spirit and dignity.
The entire scene is great, Tim Roth puts on an amazing performance but the Superintended (Geoffrey Hutchings) puts on one of the best performances I've ever seen in a film. It never comes off as condescending, like the after school specials I grew up with in the US.
What else was Trevor Hutchison in??? I know he's voice. ..does he do a voice over in something?
One of the best for me too - his experience-weary delivery of his no-nonsense summary of Trevor's situation is done perfectly. Dammit, even his chalk writing and arrows are perfect.
Amazing how he was able to write those words on the black board whilst delivering dialogue. Never missed a beat or spelt a word wrong.
That entire scene was spot on, that's exactly how it would go down in Britain, it's exactly how it is in England and Scotland still to this day it's how the youth get spoken to, it's a shame things havent changed much considering the years go by but attitudes never change eh buddy 🤷♂️ I've been born and raised in scotland it's not as severe here as it is in england and that's not a dig at them but racial hatred is still as rife as it was in the early 80's... if only people learned to live together instead of against each other the world would be a better place but I cant see it ever changing now it's too late... this film really hit hard
@@peterstone9316 four rooms, pulp fiction. Tim Roth is awesome
Tim Roth is good, very very good, but Geoffrey Hutchings' immensely commanding blackboard scene is the most memorable part of the film for me. It's easily one of the most powerful performances I've ever seen on film.
Mel at his finest😂
this is one of the all time great films
This movie is so spot on, seen it when it first came out,very relevant to what's going on today, but people will not admit it!
"Made to scrub floors when you could be watching West Ham lose at home"
Ouch
I wonder what a hypothetical Trevor would be up to in 2021. Stuck in lockdown and approaching his 60th birthday.
I would love to see a made in Britain sequel 40 years later directed by Shane meadows.
He would be dead probably died in the 90s
Of a drugs overdose
Or a drug addict 😴
Still at the end of his day's work in his late 50s
Brilliant performance by Tim Roth.
His best....?
Yes it was an epic performance by Tom Roth, I believe this was his debut. 👏
@@sundaysloth4559 His portrail of Vincent Van Gogh in ´Vincent and Theo´ is amazing.
This could have been a great film if it had been longer and explored what elseTrevor
got up to.
VANHELSINGVIDZ
The ending was one of those "Wait, I want to see what happens next!" type of endings. Overall this was a powerful movie.
Roth did an amazing job playing the part of "Trevor".
It ended just the way it should. Just like Scum. Suicide, riot then it ends wiv a moment of rememberance and silence for their less fortunate borstal bruvva.
@@theBigLubarski_1977 because it was originally part of a series called Tales out of school this was the fourth part of it according to google but years ago i always thought it was odd that on the dvd cover trevor was with a black lad in a prison yard so there was more to the story
@@theBigLubarski_1977 The other ones in that collection are Birth Of A Nation, Flying Into the Wind and RHINO (Really Here In Name Only), all about different kinds of teenage problems in the British school and social services systems in the UK in the early 1980s, as Thatcher was destroying good jobs and strangling the welfare state and causing myriad intended and unintended consequences in people's lives being ruined. Since I was at school in those years, a hell of a lot of this is recognizable to me. It wasn't great, although perhaps it never is.
andrew chambers Yeah, it’s the same up here in Scotland
by far one of my favourite films
The scariest thing to me is when works like this get banned. I fear it may happen one day. Keep hold of your DVDs.
Why would you fear it getting banned?
Given they released it as part of a David Leland set on blu ray about 10 years ago, I don't think there's an active push to ban it.
@@marquettegloves9907 not yet but maybe in a few years. I hope I’m wrong.
I love TR in this so much. Such an amazing actor
The best performance is Geoffrey Hutchings. I met him and he signed my Alan Clarke 📀 DVD. RIP
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Tim Roth is a British Legend 😊🤝🏻 incredible actor
Don't go into the greenhouse Trevor!!
This is such a good movie
exactly how i felt at that age dc.borstal then prison.im not boasting about it i felt the same did what i did learnt more very street wise.i am what i am.i have scruples.morals.respect women and kids.love life enjoyed my past a great journey.and im proud i did it all my way.like trevor brought it all on myself and why not.great film and true
What is your life like now?
“I’m a success, I’m a fucking star...”
Wow! How Trevor's words are coming home to roost today...
+RUDI UK For a nation of mongrels, invaded in waves from the continent over centuries, the national view some Brits have of themselves and their country is mildly amusing and just a little sad.
Yet you happily take our benefits and healthcare eh?
"You" being who exactly? The only people stealing from you are the government (yes those predominantly rich white British guys) and the corporations who avoid paying taxes. You are being played as a fool and a puppet if you honestly believe immigrants are your enemy.
LOL
+H. Hassan This is rhetoric based on a tired tradition of fear and hatred most prominently used by the far right to gain broad base support (most notably from the disenfranchised working class and often through times of financial hardship) for cynical political gain. The same rhetoric has been said about the Jews, the Irish, Afro Carribeans, Asians, Polish, Roma-Gypsies and Catholics etc. for centuries depending on the political climate.
It's a blinkered perspective that leads to racial/religious hatred and blanket statements that entire cultures and religions are the nameless/faceless danger at your door. Is that really what you believe Britain is? If that's the case then the terrorist have already won. I beleive most Brits are fair and decent people, the same goes for immigrants, or anyone else for that matter. Why would you let the voice and actions of a fanatical few colour your perspective so radically?
I was in a secure unit as a kid.
its pretty much spot on, but I hate everybody
UK 2021
Trevor is what's needed to shake up the filthy lying establishment
@@shabbos-goy9407 a nazi?
A child fascist is needed? No class analysis, a push to unionise or anything of substance? You strive for the same thing Thatcher strived for
Superb performance by Roth
Ya know this drama was a living reality in youth culture of the 1980s a true reflection of the then system...The Exploited song uk82 was a classic..and The Trevor jacket was a big seller in army stores on uk high streets...😢
*HORRIFIC BETRAYAL OF 1,400 CHILDREN*
Your right, and all because they didn't want too be called racist.
Oi for England. I remember this well the BBC.
"A dishonest con" has stayed with me through the years, recurred many times.
"Don't be clever don't be smart"
"TDA touching the dogs arse, taking and driving away"
😂😂
Trevor the skilnhead VS Jeremy Kyle.
I would pay to see that :)
Jeremy will be at the job centre himself these days 😂 😂 😂
@@existingwoman3753 I wouldn't be seen dead on that show
@@thecreativemillenial I wouldn't have even been in the audience.
brilliant scene
Trevor's only explaining the truth and explaining it 'how it is'.
Could you elaborate on that?
Britain needs more Trevors today than ever.
the smarmy social worker does a good job. excellent performance all round, shame some folk cant tell fiction from reality.
It's Frank from Hellraiser
@@gilliancourtney4701 oh god it is!
"Hey Trevor, come to daddy" that would've turned the tide.
Why do you think he’s smarmy?
Jimmy Savile was the guy who come round every Thursday.
😂😂😂
Savile was condoned by the establishment.
Trevor as a point in regarding social engineering, I remember all to well a classic education debate in which a MP states that inner city schools dont receive equal education as posh kids on account of, We dont wont working class children thinking above there station, After all we need our factories full todo the work!!!
This would of won baftas galore had this been released today
Amazing movie
Chris Fulford was a hard nut in the end scene. Putting poor Trevva in place big time. Lovely scene.
Still as true today as it was then.
Mad to realise that's Mel from the TV series Benidorm, Geoffrey Hutchings
" Its all a load of BOLLOCKS " WANKERS FUCKING WANKERS"
> About Nil?
>> Optimistic
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What cracks me up is that the superintendent reprimands Trevor by telling him “not to be clever/smart”, yet somehow tries to give him advice on how to develop such traits in order to stay on the right side of the law..........
He doesnt tell him to be clever or smart - when Trevor acts the prick - he says "still being clever still being smart" to make him realise what a fucking asshole he looks.
I know. I was only kidding. Even to this day, people like Trevor can still be a bit arrogant and cocky. Bad enough that we have freeloaders always finding pretexts for their so-called “entitlements”.
Pastor, I think when he was saying "clever/smart" to Trevor was another way of saying smart aleck or smartass in a sarcastic way....without saying he is being dumb. I guess. But they see his intellect in the way he navigates his world, they see it in his justifications for being the way he is...they recognize that Trevor sees the problems a lot of us don't see, but believe that if he wants to make those changes, he needs to make them within the confines of the law and within the confines of the system that we have laid out for those citizens who conform. I agree, I was a punk and really rebelled against the abitrary laws, values, and moral obligations expected of us and in my mind thought, "what is the nature of all this arbitrariness in the grand scheme of the cosmos"...who do we think we are, the little things we are, to make rules about right and wrong if we never sat down to philosophically discuss the nature of authority, law, and justice....I was and still am upset that we let our confidence in science and governing systems develope faster then our ability create an efficient moral and ethical foundation to base all that on.
@@geriatricpimp7835 The fact that you called me a pastor - I’m not sure whether that was a typo error or a mistake in speech - does not give me any honour whatsoever. 😂 Have you watched a film called “Scared Straight”? It was released in 1978 and in it, you have a group of convicts called “Lifers” who come in and testify the horrors of being indefinitely locked up in a place where there are no benefits.
Every thing he says is true every fucking word
sweet man
Note how Trevor only respects 3 people in this film. 1 The superintendent - giving it to Trevor straight - note how he doesn't contradict anything he says. 2. Harry Parker - a gritty no nonsense social worker who writes Trevor off at the end of the film 3. The PC who truncheons Trevor on the knees. This may give us a glimpse of what Trevor lacked at home - a father/authority figure - as he responds to a strong masculine authority figures who are just in their dealings with him in these cases I have highlighted. The assessment officer who tries to bargain with Trevor fails to notice this - and his plan to placate Trevor by giving in to his demand to drive a car at the demolition derby, backfires as Trevor had done nothing to earn this priviledge and it only re-inforced his disrespect for the people who work there - undoing much of the good work done by the superintendent's speech. The two assessment officers made a huge error in allowing Trevor an opportunity to go off on his brainless racist anti authority rant and he should have been escorted back to his quarters in silence to reflect on what he had heard.
I'd say only the Superintendent and Harry Parker had his respect myself, as they both had information that Trevor knew he needed, whereas the PC had only a truncheon.
@@arrivingarriving5166 I agree - and both Harry and the Super tried to save him from the truncheon. But it didn't sink in.
The final scene is great. Trevor's been getting away with taking the piss out of social workers and council employees because he knows they can't lay a finger on him. Then he bumps up against two knackered coppers who are in no mood for his shit and quickly let him know it.
This brings back council estate of mind vibes
Have been listening to that masterpiece all week. Even today at job
@@overseer699 it's a classic
It's what brought me bk here
Mr. Deltoid gets technical
Wish the movie showed more of Trevor's Home life and why he became very hateful towards society and everything. And what happened to him after being sent to a detention center
Watch mean time
somehow I don't think colin was trevor unless he got smarter and had a serious personality transplant in a short period of time. Plus Trevors younger than colin
If you want to know about his past or his home life watch closely his behaviour when he's in Harry's house
@andrew chambers wow had no idea that PC anti white bullshit was going on back in 82, and now its just gotten a million times worse
@@bone9695 I just watched Meantime (1983), brilliant recommendation. Do you have anything else for me to watch?
good film good graph
Imagine this crossed with Clockwork Orange,
VANHELSINGVIDZ that would be a mind fuck
Theses movies show us how the way life use to be beyond our parents that did not know what we was up to those days ago have now gone from the 80s if you was me you would understand why these get put up here
12:09 I wonder if that was a sly Jimmy savile reference.
Based on what i've heard about him, it definitely sounds like it could be.
Probably. There has been so many references to him over the years in various programmes, most, ironically, on the BBC
Almost definitely not.
I did exactly what trevor did and say i went to dc.borstal and prison and learned a hell of alot more than i did growing up at school. city and guilds in dairy farm at 16.drove big machinery city and guilds in brick laying.and most of all look after myself and dont belive all the bullshit your told by authorities and most of all no one can take away what i think.i beat the system im happy and love life and would change nothing.miss being a skin
Is this sampled on Council Estate of Mind?
yes
trevaa!!
Disregard the racist rants, and he is a bright bulb. Fantastically written scene.
Batsbane28 racism is a virtue
Fascists virtue signalling on YT is ironic, actual pansies
Compare Trevor to Colin (in 'Meantime' 1984) the same cockney accent but completely different characters (meantime also has Phil Daniels and Gary Oldman and Pam Ferris).
Tim Roth one of best act roll as SH-80,just like one in Gridlock in act roll as junky with 2 Pac, where two of them tray get of "H".
One sec I'm listening to the exploited..next video that plays is this???
Based.
The one writing on the black board, plays Mel in benidorm.xxxx
❄..0i..❄
❤💀👍MERRY❗
❤🎅👍CHRISMAS ❗
Crudely expressed, but right about everything.
God night and fuck off, Lol, killer line.
Some of Tim Roths best acting.
And he doesn’t give a fuck!
Trevaahhh
Crap, is that Frank from Hellraiser?
I would have gone to jail at stepfour.i don't think uk authorities were that linient during the thatcher years
This would have been better if Roth had managed to pre date his General Thade performance in the Planet of the Apes remake here. Lol
Leroy - He's a good driver...
Instigates a no nonsense response from Trevor.
12:08 ''We have someone that comes every Thursday to fuck some sence into selected individuals''
Jimmy Saville Era - 1982
Trevor is like I'm looking to myself I've grown up now but just a little bit still am a skinhead for live
You look like him on your picture, your wearing the same clothes.
I always did wounder if Trevor was actually based on a real person
Skinnymans album brought me here
On Skinny mans album QUALITY
2023 trevor made no crim
Difficult to write that well on a blackboard. Couldn't have been explained any better.
Shame he didn't pay attention to it. They were patronising him after saying he was intelligent, someone who is wouldn't of left a trail back to his crimes.
“... They were patronising him after saying he was intelligent,”
I don’t think the blackboard thing was patronising at all. The superintendent laid out the situation in stark terms and let Trevor make his own choice.
Yes, the Superintendent nailed Trevor's situation perfectly - and Trevor knew it.
im a sucksess man im a fucking star
"Nobody wants a failure on their hands" love it, brilliant script - highlight of the film the super's speech should be played to all youth that cant be bothered to get their arses out of bed mon to fri term time.
shut up you fucking drip
@@123joelad456 get back to school little man
No degrees for common sense.
Always wondered what happened to travor and where he is today??
MP in the house of lords?
When I think about everything
15:46
Mel Harvey
10 years later Samuel L Jackson takes control of Tim Roth’s character in a similar way in Pulp Fiction..
This should be studied in colleges. Extremism works both ways. It’s scary, disturbing and incredibly relevant to today’s society. Things don’t change, not really. It may change on a piece of paper or in a job title or the name of the place we as a society stick those we don’t know what to do with but things are the same. People don’t change, deep established culture doesn’t change. Do we honestly think that Boris or Jeremy C.Hunt give a shit about the working class, lower middles class, Northern families, struggling high streets, immigrants or ‘troubled’ kids. They don’t give a fuck. Prime Minister looks very good on a CV. Left for dead is a programme on BBC3 you should check out if you like this. The world might change but people don’t. We are a bacteria, we spread, we over consume and we destroy those weaker than us or those who scare us. We’re all fucked.
We fascist are the true anarchist
I hear the Superintendent, I know that cycle, but I totally agree with Trevor (minus the racism and thieving).
School teaches you how to be a slave.
Prison teaches you how to survive life.
Honest people are the most dishonest people I know (The dammed Pastor's son shares his devil's lettuce with me).
Criminals are some of the most loyal (Local Crackhead has a key to my yard so he can open up for work).
It's all about respect, not control. I don't respect anyone who thinks they're better than me, and I'm no better than anyone else.
We're all just another way the Universe stores Carbon... We ain't special... Neither are they...
F*** society, just enjoy your own experience whilst you can.
Enjoy life? With a bunch of legalists in every nook and cranny of the avenue giving you the run around? If you were to think above your levels and pull an abused dog from the pit it wouldn’t matter much because the government bends to the will of liberty-takers. You know why there are politicians? Because nobody with a right mind knows how to follow things through properly. Instead they sit in their chairs, bicker amongst themselves over prices, play for keeps, fight over trends and put you in the waiting line for hours, especially when it comes to justice. In a perfect world, every one of us should be looking out for each other, autocratic or theocratic, because there are morals and principles that have been set in stone since time immemorial, and unfortunately most of us have been breaking them in order to be “different”.
Someone attacks you for lying but has a bottle of vodka in their hand. You point a finger back at him for drinking but have a stain on your shirt. Who’s right? You or him? It can be anyone - a teacher, a police officer, a judge, or any oblivious or politically star-studded member of authority.
COLIN
The problem with this is, yeah do everything we tell you to do, or else.
For some reason or other at the beginning it reminded me of A Clockwork Orange.
Honesty's a funny thing. It's only good as long as they like what you're saying. Superb writing and acting but Tim Roth makes the others look like am dram.
+Jay Hunter What a pleasant fellow you are. No not because they didn't get success but because Roth was so convincing in the role. I would have thought that was blindingly obvious to anyone, even a Goof Troll like you.
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I think it's time for you to go to bed for as little nap.
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What's it to you anyway? You wouldn't know acting if it fell in your lap and played Dixie out it's ass on a trombone. All you're capable of doing is Trolling year old comments on youtube, hiding behind a library PC because you're daddy won't buy you one until you' re 13. Grow up and get a life you ridiculous goof.
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I really don't understand childish idiots who have nothing better to do that rant on about a comment they so obviously misunderstood.
You're entitled to your opinion but I wasn't the one who started the slagging match with someone they don't know or understand. You stared out with rude and infantile insults so you shouldn't be surprised that I rose to the bait.
You are most welcome to come and visit me any time you see fit. I would happily supply you with my address and we could sit down with your chaperone and discuss your case with them to see if there's a way forward for you from this terrible affair.
Genocide Organ anyone?
If you take out the slurs and racist remarks Trevor is not far off from stating things that blacks and browns do and his points and arguments are correct
for film and fairly land
Trever is a study, for ,me its an education