Don't Walk your Dog!

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  • čas přidán 16. 09. 2023
  • This week on Mordor Gundogs, Charlie continues to train Waffle to be the perfect gun dog. And explains why its not always a great idea to walk your dog.
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Komentáře • 362

  • @garrypark1119
    @garrypark1119 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I was sceptical until I followed your advice. My 5 month sprocker was on a harness and extendable lead, and when in fields I let him run thinking "its good to tire him out, he's a spaniel it's what they do".
    But he never got tired and it had started to get harder to stop him pulling and being a ball of chaotic energy running everywhere.
    I started to feel overwhelmed thinking hes never going to walk properly next to me, I'm never going to be able to relax when in public.
    But since watching this video and your others, I changed my mindset and use walk times for training as well as exercise, not to burn his energy off.
    The difference it has made is huge and positive. Clifford, my sprocker, is making good progress now and I feel more confident for our future. It'll take time but you have helped set me on the right path.

    • @berniblack9342
      @berniblack9342 Před 18 dny

      I feel like this right now. I relate to this so much 😮

  • @tessmonro7102
    @tessmonro7102 Před 8 měsíci +47

    I've always walked my dogs and for me the pleasure of walking is having a dog beside me or off leash running free. However you have to know your dogs, their breeding or natural instincts and you have to understand body language. You have to be aware that training is not a once done thing but a life time of reinforcement in all situations. In other words a walk is an interactive exercise between you and your dog. Dogs need mental and physical activity to keep the healthy, happy and to keep them out of trouble; and they love their walks. My dogs have always had a minimum of 1-2 hours a day with 2 - 4 hours on Saturday and Sunday, sometimes full day walks. The other point is while our dogs have all been high energy or working breeds they have been domestic/family dogs.

    • @buffywhatever1093
      @buffywhatever1093 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Agreed, high energy dogs doesn’t mean they have to be high energy at home. You meet their needs and you have a relaxed dog at home, no matter the breed. Owning a dog is a lifestyle, particularly if it’s a gun dog. I don’t know about you, but I enjoy being vigilant with my dogs, giving them instructions, they love it!

    • @saxoncrow2500
      @saxoncrow2500 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Completely agree. Currently have two sprocker pups I'm training up. Walking and hiking with your dog is a pure joy if done properly and responsibly

    • @lindamclean8809
      @lindamclean8809 Před 7 měsíci

      I wouldn’t let my dog run free.......for one thing he’d probably run off and there are snakes where I live 🥰🥰🥰

    • @lindamclean8809
      @lindamclean8809 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I can’t understand why so many people walk their dog in a harness.....to me the only dogs that need harnesses are sled dogs.....a full grown Labrador or German Shepard could pull me flat on my face if he’s wearing a harness. 🥰🥰🥰

    • @leannes4771
      @leannes4771 Před 6 měsíci

      @@lindamclean8809I’ve got two GSD mixes who combined weigh 58kg, both are walked on harnesses, I can manage both in one hand, not saying they couldn’t pull me over if they wanted to but I know my dogs and have spent years on reinforcing not pulling.
      That being said, I occasionally have back problems and will sometimes revert to using a head collar on one of them during these periods too.
      I empathise that some dogs are stronger and can be more difficult for the owner but I don’t agree with the blanket statement that harnesses are only for sled dogs.
      (And in case you think I believe this due to mine being mixes, we go walking with a GSD group and many full sheps are on harnesses)

  • @tumblyhomecarolinep7121
    @tumblyhomecarolinep7121 Před 8 měsíci +12

    Ohh this is brilliant… we have always had springers and are about to get a puppy.. I thought I would refresh my training memories. This is a joy to watch and it is so helpful. Thank you for doing these!

  • @nishnosh
    @nishnosh Před 8 měsíci +16

    Really good advice and tips. I've been doing this for the last few months with my 16 month cocker and she's learning fast. Hoping it continues! 📈

  • @janetallen3439
    @janetallen3439 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Good advice. Not needed for our first cockapoo, but boy oh boy, it was exactly where we went wrong with our second cockapoo. Such a challenge to get him back under control. Took over 2 years of very hard work. Have a good dog now, but wish I had seen this video when he was a youngster.

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      Completely agree, Janet. That's my situation with Charlie as well -- although he was a 7 year old rescue when we got him. I've had him 3 years now, and I'm not going to be too hard on myself because we have an awesome relationship, but I really did not understand a dog with his prey drive and tracking instincts. I've never had a working dog with such intensity. Now I understand where I've gone wrong and I believe we can actually improve our relationship employing the tips in this video. He's so smart that I've always understood that the fault was mine. I just was not able to communicate what I wanted in a way he could understand. I am so encouraged now. Thank you for your supportive comment.

  • @mosha44
    @mosha44 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Great information. Ive just taken ownership of a 8 month cocker with the bad habits of running up other dogs and going completely deaf. As you say a walk is not just strolling through the woods on your phone etc but being aware of your your dogs surroundings and their body language, making you the most interesting thing and stopping behaviour you dont want before it happens, not just for you n your dog but but for other not so sociable dogs. 3 weeks in and he's starting to get the hint "im no1". Many people say their dogs are their children and its true, you get out what you put in and if you cant give that especially with working breeds then maybe get a cat instead. Will be following and look forward to seeing more videos and waffles progress

  • @jennifermacgregor4032
    @jennifermacgregor4032 Před 8 měsíci +10

    I have just watched your video😮 I always thought I was being kind to my dog letting him off leash until very recently when he is very reluctant to come back when he knows he is going home.
    I think I also became a bit slap happy and overconfident that he needed the freedom so was walking on and leaving him to his own devices.
    Thankyou so much for demonstrating all my faults through my own ignorance and blaming my dog for being self willed.
    He is back on his lead for our walks and have started to take him to different locations so he can explore more smells and enhance his senses. The other thing I have found that the shorter walks make him calmer…. or maybe I am just less stressed.
    I am now following your advice and most grateful that I stumbled across your CZcams channel.
    This is a ramble but hopefully others will find it useful.

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Well I’m glad you found us and I hope the videos help, I’m sure others will find your story useful. All the best with your training!

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      ,We are fortunate because even though we are in senior living apartments, we are surrounded by woods and open fields, a lake and a pond. Every day we walk a different area, and when I get bored we go to a park or practice walking around the town square with all the traffic and people. I'm grateful to have Charlie, and have this good life together, at the same time recognizing that we have more work to do. Thank you for your helpful comment.

  • @beckyk4119
    @beckyk4119 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Perfect timing. We have a 19 week sprocker and want to get it right for her. These videos are brilliant and we can follow along with Waffle! Thank you.

  • @cynthiamarston2208
    @cynthiamarston2208 Před 9 měsíci +8

    You know when they need SOMETHING. They “ act out”. Different dogs have different needs. True. Be WITH the dog.

  • @user-wn7qf1gc5y
    @user-wn7qf1gc5y Před 7 měsíci

    Great advice. Thank you.

  • @aloha1005
    @aloha1005 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I have a shiba inu and he was running away like you said when he was a baby. Your tip to engage and to have them to run at you is so very true. Thanks for posting. Malybe easy dogs don’t have problems to run away but anyone having a chaser type of dog, your tips are formidable!

  • @isabellefisher8790
    @isabellefisher8790 Před 7 měsíci

    Fascinating!

  • @lisasternenkind6467
    @lisasternenkind6467 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I used to breed American Bulldogs and I also trained most of them to be working dogs, such as service dogs, rescue dogs, and for doing nosework for mantrailing and for open or excluded areas. When my puppies moved to their new owners, they were potty-trained, walked on the leash close to the handler, came when told, sat and lied down on command, and had started their crate training. They also were used to many different animals and people, to different travel possibilities, various environments, sounds, haptic experiences, and were used to physical handling like in shows, or with the vet. I always started their training with about 3.5 - 4 weeks, because they pick up new things faster, and even intimidating experiences don't lead to anxious reactions while the litter siblings, mom and all the other dogs are around. I always started with the introduction of the clicker, and this always was when they started to eat kibbles. So my puppies really had a very good start concerning their training and their behaviour.
    I also used to train dogs in animal rescue centers, who hadn't been socialized or trained at all, so they could be integrated into a normal household of dog lovers.
    One of the puppies I had sold, suddenly turned up with his owner when he was only 12 weeks old. Within the three weeks he had had him, the new owner had practically ruined the puppy's paws by walking him almost all day and mostly on pavement!!! Where was his common sense??? This man was told by another dog trainer, that a Bulldog would get aggressive if he wouldn't be "powered out" by walking and running! Since then I hate it when hearing this phrase.
    It took 4 weeks to heal the puppy's bloody paws again, while he had to stay most of the time in the crate, and had to be carried around. And it took about half a year of daily intensive training to teach the puppy walking without any problems again. 😢

    • @goberianchloex3646
      @goberianchloex3646 Před 7 měsíci

      I’m Not keen on over trained dogs, the ones that have that “ stare at their owners” look without interacting and visualising the world around them.
      Their personality is gone and they appear obsessed.
      That’s my pet hate

  • @GodiscomingBhappy
    @GodiscomingBhappy Před 7 měsíci +1

    very good info. just when i needed it most....thank you

  • @Winstoncat1
    @Winstoncat1 Před 7 měsíci

    Good advice. My Toller puppy is 6 months now & we use a long line lead too. We're in the Derbyshire Dales so lots of pheasants & sheep nearby, so we can't let fully off lead . We're trying to teach impulse control & recall too. With my previous Toller I did a lot of on lead/ off lead just like you've done today as this also helps them to realise that being close to you on lead on / off is not spoiling their fun. Our Toller went deaf so it was essential we built a close bond to stay near to me, as if she was ahead off lead she couldn't hear my recall command. We taught her to stop & look back. If I then gave the 'go agead' hand signal she would carry on & if I gave the 'come back' hand signal she'd would do so willingly despite distractions. Its not just about recall as it was for her safety too.

  • @RiverWoods111
    @RiverWoods111 Před 8 měsíci +11

    I am currently living in the City right now in the US, and the number of people with half-ass trained dogs off-lead running amuck with little to no recall is just freaking pissing me off. I have a very senior dog who has nervous aggression. Basically, I rescued him when he was already a senior dog, and he has improved some since coming to live with me, but at this point, because of age and health issues, I don't train a lot anymore. I have never walked him off the lead! These dang rando dogs come running up to him, most just wanting to play, but they are huge and he weighs 8 lbs. and is terrified of them. It is not ever a good situation, if your dog isn't trained to the point where they are effectively on lead even without one, and have complete control of them without a lead, then you shouldn't be walking them off the lead. *I am not sure what "walking" your dog means in Scotland or the UK, but in the US "walking the dog". Can mean on or off lead. Also, dogs do need exercise, but in a controlled manner with full attention on them. Not left to just run and chase pheasants. Also, just as much as a working dog needs to be worked, included in that work is brain work. Until your dog can heal next to you, and you have a full recall, a good strong wait call, to stop them if they are about to cross a road with cars or whatever, and good leave it commands, along with some other ones they shouldn't be outside without a lead.

    • @shirleyelliott9848
      @shirleyelliott9848 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Very well said, you have to consider other dogs, you don't always have time to judge other dogs reactions before the damage is done and I don't just mean physical damage. Dogs as well as owners can be traumatised. Be responsible and considerate so all dogs and owners can enjoy their walks.

    • @DasAlena
      @DasAlena Před 7 měsíci

      agreed

    • @TheSaintsAdvantage
      @TheSaintsAdvantage Před 6 měsíci +1

      We have worked our Aussie in real world situations. When we get to a neighborhood intersection she sits at the corner and waits. We then tell her to "break" (which is the command saying it is ok to stop siting and move along). Now when we come to a crossing...she just sits automatically and waits for "break". I also worked with her at 4 way stops (suburban lite traffic). I will tell her to sit at one corner and then I will diagonally cross the street to another corner and I will stand there. Cars will come to each stop sign and move along..they all see here (and me) and are careful...and when the traffic clears...I say "break" and she crosses the intersection diagonally to me. I felt it was important to put the dog in real world circumstances to condition her. We started this with no traffic and worked our way up..

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      I am so fortunate with Charlie. He is not much interested in other dogs, but is calm and cautious when approached. What a blessing, considering how high energy he is! He also understands "wait" and "this way" to follow me.

  • @mrs.rogers7582
    @mrs.rogers7582 Před 6 měsíci

    Wow, what a game changer. I will do this while walking with my dog. Thank you.

  • @loladiaz7616
    @loladiaz7616 Před 8 měsíci

    fantastic!!!! great education for those of us who have no clue xxx

  • @CoreDaveP
    @CoreDaveP Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video, thank you!

  • @maryeustace1620
    @maryeustace1620 Před 9 měsíci

    A hugely helpful video. Thank you.

  • @jboback5322
    @jboback5322 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Great video, my field cocker is my first. I have always had pointing breeds and we encourage distance. But my breeder said to keep him close in the beginning. Now I get what she was referring to.

  • @KatzeMelli
    @KatzeMelli Před 8 měsíci +4

    pleased to see that i did everything right on instincts but only because i was so afraid for my tiny dog😂 now she is the best off leash from all the dogs i have ever had and i didn’t know why. Well now i know.

  • @annievan-maassen2751
    @annievan-maassen2751 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Brilliant thanks

  • @batmantiss
    @batmantiss Před 9 měsíci +1

    Excellent video thank you

  • @OpinionatedMonk
    @OpinionatedMonk Před 6 měsíci +4

    Really useful advice. Something I've learned about owners is they don't know when to stop. My Dobermann just wants to 'get there', and he needs to learn nope, you can stop now and wait until I say to carry on. Too many owners let themselves get pulled about, reinforcing the dogs' idea that they can go where they want and get what they want.

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      With my "grand dog" rescue, I am much more concerned with him having a good time = eye roll = than I have been with him following commands. This is because he is so dang energetic and he gets maximum exercise that way. (When I take him to the really big dog park, that stinker DOESN'T RUN but sticks close by my side.) Charlie is such a HUNTER! Letting him follow his nose and zip around on an extendable leash has seemed important because he will run like Waffle if I let him off the lead. I have always thought he belonged to a hunter and got lost on a lease property, or was injured, and that I have just never known how to call him back. We have developed wonderful trust this way and now that I know how to train him, I have great hopes that he WILL learn to stay close. I should repeat what I wrote above, that Charlie is my 8th dog and my dogs have always stayed close off lead. Charlie has been a puzzle. But here, I have found help! THANK YOU, MordorGundogs22!

  • @clairevp1980
    @clairevp1980 Před 9 měsíci +1

    really enjoying ur channel my new fav ty so much for sharing these tips

  • @hugobosswood9002
    @hugobosswood9002 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great stuff I’ve had 2 jacks one now passed away but both walked everywhere off lead from about 18months old I could walk through our local market and both at my heel. The one I have left is 16 now.

  • @pm3577
    @pm3577 Před 2 dny

    Thanks. 🙏

  • @ednajankowski7058
    @ednajankowski7058 Před 8 měsíci

    This is the first time I’ve viewed to your site. I believe your information was quite accurate thought out and well presented. I have a year and a half old border collie smart as dickens. I’ve let him off the leash several times, and you’re correct, the more I let him off the leash the more he takes his life into his own hands and the more distance from me he ventures.

  • @carlospagos89
    @carlospagos89 Před 9 měsíci +3

    great little video with great explanation. my cocker is now 3 years old and is exactly what you are talking about in this video. if im working him he is a fantastic very eager dog but as soon as i stop and release him from his job he likes to go off and do his own thing, he does still listen but i cant understand why he keeps going off and quite far away, im assuming he is of a personality that he needs a job to do otherwise he is bored maybe...

  • @ellemetcalf110
    @ellemetcalf110 Před 8 měsíci

    I like this guy's method. I've taken in a Spanish valley dog. About 10 months old. I run in the opposite direction and because he senses I've "rescued" him he chases after me!

  • @laurablockley1269
    @laurablockley1269 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Great video, thank you. This is exactly what I need now that I am looking after the in laws working cocker who is now 4 and has never had proper recall or heel training and has a great ability to actually catch the rabbits and pigeons she is chasing down 😆 I will use your tips when I next take her out on her own to keep her closer to me in the first place.

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thank you Laura! That’s great to hear, all the best with your training

  • @festivaljapan
    @festivaljapan Před 9 měsíci +3

    great video.
    I'm your fan.

  • @blackdog1392
    @blackdog1392 Před 8 měsíci +29

    I've had 3 labradors all walked on leash fine and allowed to run off leash for several hours when mountain walking and low land walking with me. Average days walk & swim was 2 hours off leash with 4+ hours at weekends. All fit and obedient dogs. None were working lab types ( field or American), they were all traditional (English), stocky show dog types. Maybe there is a difference in the types or I have been exceptionally lucky but I found it was far easier to train when they'd been well exercised.

    • @laurablockley1269
      @laurablockley1269 Před 8 měsíci +4

      There is definitely a difference in the types. Working and show are not the same :) my family has had working and show line labs and working cockers. The difference is incredible. A working dog normally has a much high prey or hunt drive and wants to work with you which is why a walk should be training as well. Lovely that your labs had such a great life with you and lots of adventures :)

    • @OakwiseBecoming
      @OakwiseBecoming Před 8 měsíci +2

      This is similar to my GSDs. I recommend letting them off the leash from day 1 as an 8-10 week pup. All mine went free from day 1 and all are great off lead. But GSDs are naturally good off lead. They stay close to their handler by nature.

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      @@laurablockley1269 I think this is why I have had so much trouble with my 10 year old rescue dog, Charlie. He is a WORKING dog! Fortunately for both of us, I have given him as much time and freedom as I can, with an hour or hour and a half serious exercise once a day, and shorter walks besides that. But now that I've watched this video, I understand Charlie so much better. Waffle even LOOKS like Charlie!

  • @Shakashack2022
    @Shakashack2022 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nice to have that wide open field to yourselves, without ignorant parents of misbehaved / untrained dogs.

  • @johnboy4067
    @johnboy4067 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Very interesting, for the last 16 years I've owned and trained rottweilers ( amazing breed ) now I have my first working cocker he is 4 months old and is learning really quick , such an intelligent breed , interesting video I've learnt some things from this video , many thanks

  • @danypark3672
    @danypark3672 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thank you so much for this video, my husband is stressed out every day because he thinks he has to walk our 2 year old kelpie and let him run some energy off, he wouldn't listen to me so i put this video on for him and its made him realise that he is training rueben to want to go running free every day, he's now going to follow your advice thank you so much❤

  • @philipturner5920
    @philipturner5920 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Agree with this wholeheartedly

  • @JohnWilson-cb8nh
    @JohnWilson-cb8nh Před 2 měsíci

    True words ,

  • @charlottewebster4233
    @charlottewebster4233 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Not sure how I ended up here but anyway. I understand and agree that dogs shouldn't be run ragged to the point they're exhausted, manic and their brains fried but in 30+ years of owning mostly collies, I have always made sure they learn to walk on the lead and can have time off lead to sniff and have a potter around and catch all the smells and do their stuff.
    We work on recall and what I call the emergency stop training from day one but they need time off lead in a safe, secure space to learn how to behave and stay under control without the giddiness, jumping and getting distracted by everything and just legging it. Always being on a lead means they're not reliable off it and never being on a lead means they aren't as reliable to come back should they end up loose for whatever reason. I just feel happier knowing they only trot and tootle so far off lead and will come right back when called, sit or lie down next to my side and wait to put their head in the loop of a slip lead.
    I get what you're saying but think it depends entirely on the dog and what level of experience and confidence the owner has. Waffle is gorgeous by the way😊

  • @smasome
    @smasome Před 5 měsíci +1

    Waffle running off is exactly like my 10 year old rescue English Cocker. This is the first time I've had any hope of training Charlie to come when called. Charlie is my 8th dog (I'm 72, usually 2 dogs at a time) and I've ALWAYS had great control over them. Not Charlie. I've had him for 3 years and I laugh about our symbiotic relationship. He is really a good little dog, smart, affectionate, responsive. But comparatively independent and stubborn. I'm sure many would scold me for the harness and extendable leash, and even more for letting him loose with the lead in a fairly controlled environment. I just wish I knew more about his life before I got him. He was found on a back road in West Virginia, just skin and bones, major flea infestation, covered in scabs, barely any fur. He had lyme disease and a broken leg. I got him from a Cherished Cockers foster mom when he had been rehabilitated to the point that he could be adopted. He's always been a charmer. I just feel certain that I have fallen short in teaching him. It felt too overwhelming to do the teaching required when we were doing so well overall. But now I have hope. THANK YOU. I'm a subscriber now.

  • @JXter_
    @JXter_ Před 9 měsíci +14

    I've gotta say, the countryside in the background is absolutely stunning - what a view! And of course, Waffle is a very good boy. Great video, thank you.

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 8 měsíci +1

      We are very lucky! Thank you, glad your enjoying the videos

  • @gaynorwilloughby7658
    @gaynorwilloughby7658 Před 8 měsíci

    This all makes perfect sense.

  • @birgit-louisenick9534
    @birgit-louisenick9534 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Thank you very much for your video! This is very good information. I was wondering, what I was doing wrong. Now I know. I have a rescue dog who is great on recall, staying close, etc., except when she finds mice. Then she starts digging and becomes deaf to the world. I recently began letting her off the lead, because of a current knee injury that really slows me down. I thought, my dog needed more of a chance to run. That`s when she increasingly became obsessed with digging for mice, moles etc. and stopped following me, not keeping me in her sight, when I kept walking.

  • @sarahfalconer1071
    @sarahfalconer1071 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for the tips, however, how would you apply this to a sprinter who has least these bad habits already? I rescued a male sprinter at 7 months who’s pet drive was through the roof and has been allowed to run off into the sunset, slowly getting there with him but it is such very slow progress and hoping to ramp the training up a few notches??

  • @FredMarz-gt4se
    @FredMarz-gt4se Před 6 měsíci

    Hiello! Thank you for your vídeo. May I ask you a question? What would be your advice to a 2y.o. Malinois Shupherd owner about walking? Mine never walls alone.He walks by my side and I'm always in the leash control.

  • @OakwiseBecoming
    @OakwiseBecoming Před 8 měsíci +6

    “I’ve done this for 20 years.” Well I was raised with dogs before I could walk, had them my entire life, all my entire extended family over multi-generations has all had dogs. And I let my dogs off lead from Day 1 as 8 week old pups. But my breed is German Shepherd and they instinctively stay close to their handler. Training my Border Collie took more effort, as he wanted to target dogs at a distance like they were a lost sheep and run after it. But with training, he’s now just as good as my GSDs. How you train depends on the breed. But, in general, I would say telling people that their dogs don’t need to run is bad advice. And I would also tell owners of other breeds like GSDs that they definitely SHOULD start off leash walking immediately from Day 1. Maybe cockers are completely different.

  • @mariebutler6619
    @mariebutler6619 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Great video and information. Thanks for sharing. Too many people have dogs, that have no option but to be self employed, as their humans walk with a phone Infront of their face! 😅

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Thank You! And yes unfortunately that is far too common

    • @pinkfox5651
      @pinkfox5651 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yes, and morel often than not being pulled along by the dog. 🙄

  • @PaisleyProductionsLtd
    @PaisleyProductionsLtd Před 9 měsíci +2

    such great advice. Thank you. We have a 18 week old WCS and this is exactly how I've been training him out on walks. Very encouraging.

  • @anniwilson2534
    @anniwilson2534 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Sensible advice. I do similar but give mine a release command of “Free!” for them to go off and just be dogs.

  • @adsaccuracy
    @adsaccuracy Před 9 měsíci

    You do know your stuff.👌

  • @allanbell-moore4572
    @allanbell-moore4572 Před 9 měsíci +3

    i have a 15 week WCS. loving your advice and enthusiasm. keep them coming - so helpful 👍

  • @geraldinemryan
    @geraldinemryan Před 7 měsíci

    Hi Charlie Excellent video❤😂 thank u for your valuable advice😊 Waffel is a beautiful Cocker spaniel 😊 🇮🇪 greetings from Ireland!

  • @bernadettelinfoot
    @bernadettelinfoot Před 7 měsíci

    Makes perfect sense to me

  • @johnkenney3966
    @johnkenney3966 Před 8 měsíci +2

    16 months is still the silly stage. Then you train them properly.

  • @JamieSugg
    @JamieSugg Před 8 měsíci +4

    We've made the mistake of letting our Sprocker off the lead in very tempting environments, and now we're back to square one with him. He just doesn't go off the lead now whilst we re-train him with good healwork, stay etc. This video highlights our initial mistakes (which were encouraged by a previous trainer sadly) and I'm pleased we've recognised the issues - thank you.

    • @andaswewindondowntheroad
      @andaswewindondowntheroad Před 7 měsíci

      ditto with my Yorkie. Most dogwalkers I know claim they have 100% recall but, from what I've observed, definitely untrue

  • @easyartisan
    @easyartisan Před 7 měsíci +3

    Ive just figured this out after 4 years..I have a pointer cross spaniel cross lab..three gundogs rolled into one so I thought she needed lots of exercise and let her run around wildly for a few years. It didnt do her or me any good at all..she also became reactive to other dogs. I realise what she really needed was a job. I have competely changed everything round and now she is super calm and nowhere near as reactive.

    • @KS-yv7tw
      @KS-yv7tw Před 7 měsíci +2

      I too have a pointer. Let her run around like a mad thing in forests and fields for years. She too became more reactive to dogs. And I had to start training almost from scratch with recalls last year as it never seemed to improve like I thought it might have. She is the most adorable loving well behaved dog in the house now though. Reactivity still a problem only with growly dogs on lead but I have a much more engaged dog now. How did you improve the reactivity issue?

    • @easyartisan
      @easyartisan Před 7 měsíci

      I stopped letting her run wild and put her on a long line when out in parks and let her do ALOT of sniffing instead. If a dog comes by at a distance she either carries on sniffing or, if she looks at it and then hopefully looks away, ( she does this all the time now ) , I reward her right decision. I learnt that allowing her to become reactive actually embeds the problem further so I watch out for other dogs and manage the issue though the sniffing and treats.An hour sniffing means she comes home calm and not adrenalised. This has worked incredibly well and changed her as a dog and we are both much happier. I also accepted that she just doesnt like other dogs ! @@KS-yv7tw

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci +1

      "What she really needed was a job." So insightful! And YES, this is what I need to do with Charlie.

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      @@KS-yv7tw thanks for sharing your experience. Until this video, and the great comments, I have felt it would be too much to overcome Charlie's lack of recall. Now I am encouraged. We can have an even better relationship with some work!

  • @TMFShooting
    @TMFShooting Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great Video ' 💯

  • @u.k.cheshirechap3113
    @u.k.cheshirechap3113 Před 7 měsíci

    How do you stop them getting over excited? Especially leading up to the walk before you’ve left the house. My boarder sqeeks and wines for a good hour before I even think of going for a walk. Also whilst I’m preparing his food. But once out on the walk he’s excellent tracker training and lost item finding

  • @ToonstarHurst-ty1db
    @ToonstarHurst-ty1db Před 9 dny

    3 days of walking my Belgian Malinois like this it's been absolute bliss results are staggering, the loose lead is genius complete opposite of any advice iv come across, always tight slip and slip collar seemed iv almost gained respect back from my dog, trust works both ways I guess 🙏 sit whistle aswell he's coming on, thank you

  • @andrewpalmer3213
    @andrewpalmer3213 Před 8 měsíci

    Hahahaha - I've got to get out of the sun and into the shade because it is 23 degrees!

  • @jamesblackwell5771
    @jamesblackwell5771 Před 5 měsíci

    So the question is what do you do if you have given your 1 year old Vizsla too much freedom earlier on?
    We're back to long line only now with a tug when he doesn't come, but it's a slow process

  • @agnieszkakania4184
    @agnieszkakania4184 Před 8 měsíci +8

    I am a bit confused, does 'walking' a dog equal letting them off leash in British English or is it just a clickbait title? When you walk your dog on a leash it's also walking, isn't it?

    • @stevec8243
      @stevec8243 Před 8 měsíci

      A working dog needs it's walks controlled. Mine get a mix of off leash and on leash. If he's only too used to off leash he will be offski. On leash walks keeps him controlled.

    • @agnieszkakania4184
      @agnieszkakania4184 Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@stevec8243 I also have a working dog and I'm all for proper training but how is controlled / on leash walk not walking your dog? The title is misleading on purpose imo. 'Don't let your untrained dog off leash and then scream 'he's friendly!' as you see it disappear' would be more appropriate title here.

    • @uk_siren
      @uk_siren Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@agnieszkakania4184 Not click bait, he's saying "don't walk your dog, train you dog". It's just a play on words. 👍🏼

    • @user-ie6jr4bg1w
      @user-ie6jr4bg1w Před 7 měsíci

      You mean English?

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      @@uk_siren ohhh.... I had trouble with that, too, but thought it had to do with English vs American. Thanks for the explanation.

  • @jamespaterson4834
    @jamespaterson4834 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Stumbled on this vid by chance , watched til the end as a lot of what you said not only makes perfect sense but falls in line with what I try to do with my own dogs (non gungogs, although I had 1 Doberman that I used to work in a beating line and he was probably one of the better behaved dogs on the day , and another Doberman that I used to go rough shooting with (amongst other activities).
    Will look for more of you content now, thanks

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Hi James, thank you for the compliment glad your enjoying the content

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      This video is especially important for "moms" and "grandmas" who love their cockers for cuddles but can be confused if they have not had experience with actual working dogs. "Why won't you just do what I want you to do, Charlie?" "Because, mom, I'm a WORKING DOG!! Yeah, I love you, but don't confuse me with a low energy lap dog. I will sure be quiet in the house, and content, but not if I don't get to follow my destiny and work off the incredible energetic drive that I was born with!"

  • @ToughLovePapi
    @ToughLovePapi Před 11 dny

    This is interesting. I am however left wondering how to interpret the recommendation of walking my Labrador 2 hours a day. Do I walk (train) him for 2 hours? Do I train him for 45 mins?
    It feels like ‘walk a Labrador for 2 hours’ is nonsensical according to this?
    Is this giving them stimulation in general rather than essentially making them fitter through more running?
    Would love to hear your thoughts

  • @JULIEJONES-pf5uo
    @JULIEJONES-pf5uo Před 7 měsíci

    Great videos. Wish I'd seen sooner. My 2 year old lab has done some training but has also been walked a lot off the lead. He's realised he likes chasing deer. What do I do now?

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      I swear my 10 year old rescue cocker was a hunting dog. He LOVES chasing deer, but after he has brought them to me, it's like he's done his job and he's off to do more tracking. It's the oddest thing. He doesn't bark when he's chasing things. He does bark when he finds a raccoon up in the branches or trees a squirrel. This site has inspired me to learn more about hunting dogs so I can understand him better. I also wonder if Charlie was a stud dog because he was unneutered when I got him at the age of 7. So many questions!

  • @twobeatkick_swim
    @twobeatkick_swim Před 4 měsíci

    Awesome. Go Waffle!

  • @jarvis6992
    @jarvis6992 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This was a great video. Really good advice. I'm getting my first Flat Coated Retriever puppy soon, both nervous and excited in equal measure! Thanks for your videos, grateful to have found this channel!

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thank you Jarvis, very nice of you to say so, all the best with your puppy!

  • @beevie4081
    @beevie4081 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Neat method. So far I've really enjoyed raising my dog to have two modes: working mode and exploring mode. I'll admit exploring mode breaks all the guidlines you set out here, but I love watching her just ripping around being a dog. Plus she brings antlers back for me sometimes.

    • @nanasabia
      @nanasabia Před 8 měsíci

      If you oppress the free nature in your animal you also oppress it in yourself

    • @stevec8243
      @stevec8243 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@nanasabiawhat utter rubbish. A dog should not have "free nature" whatever that means 🤣 A dog needs boundaries. I assume you've never owned a dog, particularly a working breed.

    • @nanasabia
      @nanasabia Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@stevec8243 yes, you are right. I agree, boundaries are very much needed and you have to teach your dog to respect them. But there is also „the exploring more free mode“ and it would be sad to oppress it fully.

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      @@nanasabia There is nothing more exhilarating to me than seeing my English Cocker Charlie running flat out, criss-crossing a field. And to see him enthusiastically snuffing, tracking, following his nose. It just crushes my soul to think that he would never be allowed to do that. So I agree with you.

  • @pim1234
    @pim1234 Před 6 měsíci

    I do the train part with my dog with all kind of dummy's and then we do some playing with tennisballs and some free running...but she reacts very good on the whisle all the time

  • @clairespace3371
    @clairespace3371 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Cd you do something for those gun dogs like mine who've had a free reign. My WC is like velcro. She doesn't go far without zipping back to me to touch base. However she is not into recall if she is in the middle of a snuffle discovery. So maybe a good lesson for us delinquent owners please?!

  • @daizypj5623
    @daizypj5623 Před 8 měsíci

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @annettestephens5337
    @annettestephens5337 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I so agree with you, although my thought is that most people aren’t dog trainers and find the commitment hard.

    • @jboback5322
      @jboback5322 Před 8 měsíci +6

      I taught agility for over 13 years. You train people how to train their dogs. You don't have a child and decide to let them do whatever they want, you teach them what to do. Dogs are no different, so to me, ALL people are TRAINERS. Basic obedience should be taught to your dog no matter what you plan to do with it. And no matter the breed. If you can't commit, then maybe a cat would be a better choice. :)

    • @emily7195
      @emily7195 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Get a trainer it'll change your life give you both goals to work towards. They're around £30 a session but still cheaper than a new sofa or an injury!

    • @annettestephens5337
      @annettestephens5337 Před 8 měsíci

      @@jboback5322 Totally agree with you. Just listened to todays news in UK and discovered that parents nolonger have the responsibility of training their children (let alone their dogs) since it will soon be the responsibility of school teachers to make sure the children clean their teeth!!!

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      @@jboback5322 I have never had the problems of staying close and recall with my other dogs, so I would say that so much depends on the dog. I don't think I've ever had a legitimate working dog before, so Charlie is really a different animal. His drive is so intense, which I understand. It is only with that video, and these comments, that I am beginning to understand what I must do to make us both happier and closer in our relationship.

  • @lindebree7978
    @lindebree7978 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Ik heb in het begin een paar keer rechts omkeer gemaakt ,eerst aan de hele lange lijn en dan roepen, dat vind ze niet fijn dat ik de andere kant op ga. Hierdoor let ze beter op.mij als ik nu stil ga staan en ze merkt dit komt ze meteen naar me toe ,en natuurlijk wordt zel dan beloond met lekkers of even spelen. Je soms even verstoppen ( terwijl jij je hond kan zien) werkt ook, ze gaan hun " koektrommel " goed in de gaten houden . 😊

  • @alanflynn2378
    @alanflynn2378 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Hey, This is very interesting and something I will trying out for myself on any news pup's. Probably jumping the gun a little but will there be videos on how to intrduce animals, like sheep, cows, etc and not have them running after them?

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 9 měsíci +3

      Hi Alan, glad your enjoying, there will be videos on that subject definitely

    • @alanflynn2378
      @alanflynn2378 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@MordorGundogs22 great eagerly looking forward to it and following this channel. Love the training style. Great work 👏

  • @davidstevenson5666
    @davidstevenson5666 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for the advice. I may have missed this, but what age is Waffle?

  • @mathildeeide8550
    @mathildeeide8550 Před 8 měsíci +9

    You start walking «young innocent» dogs with a long leash hanging behind them (15 meters) , that way you can stop any chase or whatever you don’t want by stepping on it. At the same time they feel like they’re off leash. You only train recall when you’re 100% sure the dog is in the right headspace and will come to you. Otherwise don’t use their name, change direction and disappear behind a tree without saying a word. Reward them checking in with you using treats, every single time. You will have a dog able to walk off leash everywhere in the end.

    • @Nemrai
      @Nemrai Před 8 měsíci +1

      There's no guarantee that you'll be fast enough to step on the leash every time though. But it's true that it's a bigger safety than no leash at all.

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      @@Nemrai I definitely need to work with my 10 year old rescue cocker, but he has improved in the three years that I've had him. He used to try to evade me when he got away from me and could be gone from me for hours = panic city. How maddening was that?! But now I can let him run, then he stops to wait for me and is never resistent to being on leash. So there's that. But I am absolutely starting recall training tomorrow.

  • @alikdeb1977
    @alikdeb1977 Před 3 měsíci

    I got my cooker spaniel at his age of 7 months he always rush ahead of me when i went with him for walking... please guide what to do ...

  • @mbloy613
    @mbloy613 Před 8 měsíci +3

    There’s a big difference between how you exercise puppies and how you exercise dogs - and a massive difference between how you walk different breeds of dog. One size doesn’t fit all, so don’t generalise.

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      So true. I've never even known a working dog like my 10 year old cocker, Charlie. I've been kind of gob smacked because I've expected him to be like my other dogs. I'm finally learning what I need to do differently.

  • @lizwiltzen1743
    @lizwiltzen1743 Před 8 měsíci +5

    First video of yours I've seen, Brilliant! I have an 11 month old Golden Retriever, we have a pretty strong relationship, but the issues we do have come from exactly what you are speaking to here. Such helpful guidance, thank you so much!

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank You!

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      I had 5 Goldens in 40 years, usually 2 at a time. I only had one with serious working drive, but she was good off the leash from the time we got her as a puppy. They all were.
      Once I was at the park down the street and a hawk flew over the lake, dropping its catch. Lady was sitting beside me, saw it, looked up at me for permission and I said, "Go!" with the arm signal. She was off like a shot, got the bird, returned to me, and dropped it at my feet, sitting and looking up at me for approval. It was magical and an experience I'll always cherish.
      Although I can be faulted for being too much of a "mommy" to my dogs, what I have always done well was understanding them, developing trust and rapport. Aren't we blessed to share our lives with such amazing creatures?

  • @francesdupuy5546
    @francesdupuy5546 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Great video again. Working hard to get back control of 1y lab who was given his freedom too young. Wish I had known you 6 months ago!! Much bigger job now ...

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Thank you! And good luck hopefully our videos will help

  • @CallumConnolly-lj8zm
    @CallumConnolly-lj8zm Před 10 dny

    Cool thing im getting a working cocker spaniel from you in a couple month😁😁

  • @andycorbett207
    @andycorbett207 Před 9 měsíci

    Hello! Our two Golden Retrievers have always had a harness for walks, or collar and lead, but not the slip lead. Are these suitable for trying to improve their walking and healing?

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Hello Andy, They are perfect for walking and heeling

    • @sumk1818
      @sumk1818 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yes they are really good I have taught my puppy heel so quickly with a slip lead it is loose all the time and only tightens when she is not in the correct position

  • @shraddashradda
    @shraddashradda Před 7 měsíci

    The thing is you would like your dog to be close to you and walk by your side, engaged and all, but you named him Waffle! What to expect! He wants to get as far away from that name as possible 🐩🙌🐾 ‘I’m not associating with some batter-mix square’ 😆

  • @benpennington7532
    @benpennington7532 Před 9 měsíci +6

    We didn’t have any of the problems you are suggesting with our last three dogs. They didn’t jump up either.

  • @morefifacollege8971
    @morefifacollege8971 Před 8 měsíci

    I can see what you doing engagement.
    I subbed to your channel, I am from South Africa.
    My dog qualified for training at other dog club but their techniques is different, I already paid for the month.
    Once the month is over and I am done with the training, I am gonna continue train him by myself.
    A person get confussed watch too much different dog trainers, need to learn from one or two dog trainer.

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you for subscribing and best of luck with your training!

  • @rosjierandevelynhall9421
    @rosjierandevelynhall9421 Před měsícem

    I wish I saw this 2 years ago - we have sooooo badly trained our 2 yr old lab

  • @GrandadBaz
    @GrandadBaz Před 6 měsíci

    Good avice in my book.

  • @dubthabreak
    @dubthabreak Před 8 měsíci +1

    Well I own a Dogo Argentino that I use for wild boar hunting and I let him run for 35 min every day in the country side next to my motorbike just ffir his stamina and endurance, so he's trained for when we go hunting

  • @myslicechannel
    @myslicechannel Před 6 měsíci

    We have a 6 year old lurcher and live in town - if we let him off he'd either get run over or kill anything that moves! He is always on lead but we do a lot of training on lead, in house and garden.

  • @capio78
    @capio78 Před 6 měsíci

    This is exactly like my lab, I let him off the lead from young because its safe where we are but he is too confident and doesn't heal.

  • @corbuzchristi365
    @corbuzchristi365 Před 6 měsíci

    I have a greyhound and a saluki, so I don't have these problems walking fortunately. However, it's a different story off lead! 😂😂🙈

  • @noodlechild666
    @noodlechild666 Před 8 měsíci +2

    You can guarantee when someone in my area has lost a dog its ALWAYS a non working, working cocker. Far too many people simply let their dogs off lead to run riot, illegally chasing wildlife, whilst they look at their phones. I hardly see anyone actually engage with their dogs, or even interact with them.
    For me, the first 2 - 2.5 years are all about training and bonding as well as walking/socialisation/habituation. Im an avid walker, so i have a dog thats built for stamina and we do a LOT of walking - around 15-20 miles a day. However, if i dont walk him, even for days, it has zero impact on his behaviour or energy levels as we simply find other things to do like scent work. Even then he isnt all fussed. He knows how to relax. But then my aim has never been to tire him out, but to offer him a fulfilling life and to keep him fit and healthy.
    I believe active dogs are happy dogs, but that activity does NOT have to be running around like a loon.

    • @smasome
      @smasome Před 5 měsíci

      I wish you were my neighbor and we could walk together. My rescue cocker Charlie is a great dog, but we need work. This video and the comments are a great start.

  • @ramhasib9930
    @ramhasib9930 Před 7 měsíci

    You make so much sense , also alot of people humanise there dogs an all that causes is a problem dogs are a pack animal an we have to be the alfa male

  • @samuelmoore657
    @samuelmoore657 Před 6 měsíci

    can you do this with a beagle?

  • @memyaify
    @memyaify Před 6 měsíci

    Having watched this I’m glad I didn’t get my dog from Mordor Gundogs. My Golden Retriever puppy runs free and is very happy 😊 and about to get her Kennel Club Silver.

  • @MrBazzer
    @MrBazzer Před 8 měsíci

    Great video, I've been searching for the answer to my woe's. I re-homed a 10 month old Beagle/cockerpoo cross and have been having problems with his reluctance to have his lead back on again. It's going to be an uphill climb to get him on the straight and narrow again but I have the patience and now I have the answer. Thanks a lot for this video.😀

  • @rondorazio4921
    @rondorazio4921 Před 8 měsíci

    Good grief! Now I've seen it all!

  • @marcostevens4086
    @marcostevens4086 Před 9 měsíci +28

    Well said. My 11 month WCS is still on the lead most of the time on my property. Give him an inch….. It’s going to take a long time with my lad. Work in progress. Love your videos keep them coming. Lots of garb out there.

    • @MordorGundogs22
      @MordorGundogs22  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Thank you! That’s great to hear, plenty more videos to come, all the best with your training

  • @beksc9209
    @beksc9209 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I wish this video were totled correctly. He is not saying, "Don't walk your dog." He is saying, "Do not let your dog walk you. Do not allow our dog to run around like a crackhead while you daydream." Yes. Go for a walk with your eyes on your dog, the same as you would with a 3 y.o. child. Keep your focus on the dog. Ask your dog to do things, occasionally, so the dog stays engaged with you and learns that you are the best thing in his universe.