Cheap vs. Expensive Mic Boom Arms - Is There Really a Difference?
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- What makes an outstanding mic stand that can withstand years of use? Does more money equal better quality? Well, yes. In this video I take a look at an inexpensive articulating mic arm and compare it to the Rode PSA1.
While the less expensive mic arm isn’t totally terrible, it’s nowhere near the quality of the Rode. For light use cases it can absolutely get the job done, but if you can, spend a little extra and get a mic stand that will last the rest of your life.
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0:00 - Understand Outstanding Mic Stands
0:36 - Boom Arm Basics - Rode PSA 1
1:41 - PSA 1 Setup
2:31 - Cheaper Mic Stands
3:13 - Neewer Mic Stand Intro
3:46 - Neewer Stand Setup
5:58 - Quality vs. Price
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9:40 - The Final Verdict
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Episode 215: How Good Are Cheap Mic Stands?
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Time Markers:
0:00 - Understand Outstanding Mic Stands
0:36 - Boom Arm Basics - Rode PSA 1
1:41 - PSA 1 Setup
2:31 - Cheaper Mic Stands
3:13 - Neewer Mic Stand Intro
3:46 - Neewer Stand Setup
5:58 - Quality vs. Price
7:29 - The Weak Points
8:27 - The Good Points
9:40 - The Final Verdict
10:05 - Invest in Your Gear
11:02 - Exactly What You’d Expect
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Really need links to each of the puns as well :P
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FYI if you add these timestamps in the description of the video when you upload it, they get added as chapters in the timeline of the video.
Edit: Welp, guess what I just found in the description...
Can you use innogear boom arm for rode podmic please answer
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7:00 You have to unscrew the screw that's holding the spring, then attach it to the hole that's closer to the joint. Then you reattach the spring.
I've also been using it with my Audio Technica at 2020+ USB mic for a few years now. It works fine, just doesn't feel great to reposition.
oh neat, we have the same kind of mic. big Ws
I bought 4 PSA1 stands about 2 years ago, and I concur - they feel like they’ll last forever. You could say they’re a pretty longSTANDing recommendation of mine.
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Outstanding comment.
I’ve been using the Neewer mic stand for about 5 years now. It’s been great for me. Thanks for breaking down the higher end option.
I bought the newwer thinking I was only gonna use it on a tiny project. It’s okay, def worth $15. I just figured I would wait til it broke to replace... 2 years later, I’m like HOPING it would break so I can get a fancy one... but it just won’t! 😩 (I only use with shotgun condenser mics, that stay in place, so I am not handling it often)
I’ve had mine 4 years still going strong lol ur gonna have to wait awhile
I guess that’s a good problem to have 😁
You're not using a mic heavy enough to break it
So Glad Someone finalllllly spoke about this!! Thanks man!
I’ve been using the Neewer stand with their mic for a couple of years and it has held up well for a budget option. I don’t know how it would hold up over the same period of time with a heavy mic though.
ive had opposite experience wheres its holding on by a thread
Same I use it with a Yeti Nano, would never try and put a 2lb mic on it though.
Had mine for just under 6 months and the support where it hooks into the clamp bent completely 90 degrees the springs are still very strong tho
I got a neewer mic stand with the blue yeti from a cousin who stopped streaming, and although it’s not my favorite thing, it gets the job done. When you try to turn the whole stand, that’s when I notice the clamp coming more easily undone, but when I lift it toward the clamp as I pivot, that tends to make it easier. I’ve had it for about 4 years, and have been using it more consistently since about May of this year, and it’s held up surprisingly well, considering I just now learned it was $13! But I’ve definitely got my sights set on the rode stand now! Great video, per usual 👍🏼
I'm glad it's been working well for so long! That's awesome to hear!
The pun king is back. I have owned two of those Neewer mic stands and your assesment is correct. I've used one to even carry my yeti and it barely worked, but I only put lighter mics on it because the last thing I would want would be for that thing to come crashing down with my mic on it. I've been considering purchasing one of the Rode's or an OC White stands once I upgrade my mic, but for now, I'm ok with the neewer holding up my ATR 2100.
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Hahahaha. Exactly what I was thinking. And from then on, all I could hear was the word “stand” in this video... and there are a lot of “stands”. 😂
I'm sorry for the people who can't "stand" these jokes!😬😂
Someone said there weren’t enough puns in the last video, so I hade to pull out the big puns.
@@tombuck thanks for replying and hearting people's comments, it is pretty rare to see content creators doing that weeks or months after the video and it doesn't go unnoticed!
I think you are right now the only CZcamsr I just subscribed to based only on your voice and podcast, without seeing any of your YT stuff. I binged all podcast episodes lately of you and Peter and it is funny how I imagined your studio would look like. Now after searching for your channel and checking out your videos it's cool to be able to recognise some stuff from the podcast, e.g. your drums you like to have in your studio although your space is limited, the Nanlites, guitar and I currently imagine, that your dog is wandering behind the walls, ready to give a quick bark during your recording :D
I really enjoy your podcast with Peter and like your personality and after seeing this video I definitely like to see more of you and see you grow even faster in 2021!
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Wow, this is so cool to hear! I’m glad you like the podcast, it’s super fun and Peter is a great guy.
Always great info. You consistently come up with interesting (and unique) content.
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
I was really hoping you talked about the Frameworks Boom but great quality video as always!
Haven’t really thought about mic stands too much, this video really got me 🤔 thinking. I also just watched the Podcastage gift guide. Now I think it would be fun to improve my stands and get some nice shock mounts. Always fun to learn new options to improve. Thanks again for the video!
Shock mounts always make things look cool. I know that’s not important, but it’s a fact.
Thanks for the review! I'm new to podcasting and have learned a lot from your videos. Stand-ing by for the next video! :)
I’m so glad to hear it! 👍
Wow perfect timing I have just been wanting to get one of these thanks for sharing your info it's always really helpful 🙂
I’m happy to hear it!
I’m glad your around to look at the cheap stuff. Back when I was consulting when people asked me for the cheapest I would say leave me out of it (heck there paying me $150 to $200 an hour) I not going to buy a $13 mic stand. I use a massive Floor mount stand ($178) with a long extension arm because I work at a console desk that doesn’t have a place to mount! Now if someone ask I can send them to you!
Haha, I’m definitely a believer in paying for quality, but sometimes I do have questions about how reliable cheaper things can be- especially for home setups.
this man is the most underrated tech youtuber i have ever seen.
Haha, thank you very much!
Thank you. This is clear, concise, easy to understand, and useful information. 👍
You’re welcome!
Having owned a Neewer Mic Stand, I can honestly say its worth $13...but not much more than that. It will get the job done if you're looking to keep the mic off the desk and mainly in a fixed position without the need to move it around a lot. However, if you're constantly moving the arm throughout its use, the anchoring rod at the base (the thing that sticks into hole on the desk mount) can easily bend. If you're unaware of this happening and one day it fails, your mic can come crashing down. Also, its not a very long boom arm so depending on your desk size, users might try and overextend the arm which again, could lead to premature failure. For $30-50, I'd recommend a budget arm from Rockville, Knox Gear, etc that's much longer, better built and a lot sturdier.
"Neewer: Exactly What You'd Expect"
Seems legit
I had the Neewer stand for about a year holding a akg perception 120. After about a year the aluminum that goes into the clamp completely bent. I ended up picking up a Heil pl-2t and am enjoying it a lot. Definitely would recommend it along side the PSA1.
I've had mine for about 9-10 months. It works fine, but I'd expect the same issue. That end and the clamp are fairly poor. I'll probably replace it within the next year.
Ha, the same thing happened to me today switching out the SM7B to the MV7 - near smack in the face, an an inch from putting a hole in the TV mounted right above. It's one of those things you do forget about because it's a set it forget it stand. I'm debating between another Røde and the Blue Compass boom arm - I'm a sucker for the aesthetic. It's the one that is most compared to the Røde. And I agree, the support gear needs more credit and thought when paring with gear.
Haha, I know it'll happen again to me. I've been interested in the Compass, but I saw a comparison that showed some design quirks that lead me to think the Rode is still more versatile.
Thanks Tom! That was just what I needed today!
So glad to hear it!
I have the stand that you show at 0:26 in the back of the frame (the taller one), but since I got it from a friend, I don't know the name. Is it the DS1? It would be great to know if that's right or not.
I had two of those cheap type arms and would like to point out two additional flaws: First, the spiral springs pick up any bump and translate it into some vibration noise that is worse than the original bump. This can be avoided by tieing the spiral springs down, so they can't vibrate, e.g. with velcro bands. Second: The end of the arm that plugs into the table clamp is simply bent (rolled) sheet metal. That makes this the weakest point of the arm, and it is extremely easy to bend or crack this part when trying to move the arm.
"The end of the arm that plugs into the table clamp is simply bent (rolled) sheet metal. That makes this the weakest point of the arm, and it is extremely easy to bend or crack this part when trying to move the arm."
This! That's my major gripe about my cheap Neweer stand as well.
I know this video is a bit older. But I just wanted to say this: I bought the newer boom arm not for holding a microphone but instead to mount my webcam/phone on it (you do need another adapter screw for it tho) and it works really well for that use case. So if you need a cheap way to shoot some overhead stuff I can highly recommend going this route.
That's a great use for it!
OK, now you're just reading my mind. I needed exactly this video right now.
Ahh good, the spies are working.
Purchaser of the neweer, I used this with a marantz professional mpm200u. After around 3 months, the base or clamp to the desk was wearing itself down and eventually was hanging by a loose thread to the rest of the arm. Would recommend trying to look a bit higher on the price range.
I actually own a pair of those Neewer stands and they've held up pretty well for my PodMics and a couple of generic mic stands that are built pretty similarly and have had no issues with any of them for the most part. The Neewer ones are actually better than the generic ones, but since I'm using the Neewer with the PodMics, I ended up putting some really lightweight LED lights up on the generic stands. I think space-wise I wouldn't have room for the RODE stands, which is definitely causing me to stick with the Neewer for now until I decide to expand my desk space at some point in the future. Great video!
I'm happy to hear it's been holding up with some heavier mics. That's great!
... and its blank. 🤣🤣 Love the videos! As a starting off Creator I am loving the quality and the content. New long time sub! Thanks for the content, Tom!
I'm so excited that so many videos have been helpful to you! Totally makes my day to hear.
Love, Your videos, Tom! Don't even know why - some positive energy comes from them... :) can confirm - PSA1 really solid arm (but i never tried others)
Thank you! I didn’t mention it in the video, but going back to the Rode after using the cheaper arm was almost shocking. It’s SO much better.
Where was this last week when I needed it 😥
I just got one of the Neewer stands, but it's gonna have to go back! The problem is with sound isolation. When using it, my microphone (Samson Q9X) picks up every key press, mouse click, or even hand movement on my desk!
My question is, is this a "feature" (problem!) with boom arms in general, or do the more expensive options, like to Rode PSA-1 do a better job of isolation? I considered getting a shock mount, but the Samson mic won't accept one (I don't think.)
Thoughts?
I have been in radio for years and now starting a podcast at home. I have the Rode and it's a bit too large for the desk I use, but is definitely far superior to the cheap one like you reviewed. (Yes, I have four of those hiding in a box out of site). I just ordered a second but went with a heavy duty one from Ebay for $40. And it's arms are 14" rather than the 17" of the Rode. It's supposed to hold a 2.5lb mic with ease and those Blue Yeti monsters. (yes I have one of those hiding in a box too). I agree, go with quality. I have the Rodecaster Pro and Zoom P4, the P4 cost me $259 from a vendor on Amazon. It's not the same as the Rodecaster Pro but does a fantastic job...plus it's great as a portable go anywhere device. I have room for three guests around the table but those table stands ( yes I have four of those too, LOL) take up the space if you have material needed to do a show. Anyway Tom, thought I would share. Also considering using Anchor but found Buzzsprout and might go that way. Merry Christmas.
Thanks for the insights! I've heard great things about the P4, and from what I've heard it has enough gain to eliminate the need for a Cloudlifter in most cases, which is super cool.
I can't use anything that connected from the front of sides. I need something that connects to the back. I need it to go forward, then 90 degree turn to the right. So I need one with a rotating middle and base knuckle. Any ideas?
Amazing intro with the jokes, love the video and organized description. Thank you for the help. What lamp did you show in the back?
Thanks for the kind words! I'm not sure exactly which lamp you're referring to, but the big white one with the grid is a FalconEyes LED panel and the regular looking desk lamp in the back of some shots is...a regular desk lamp (but with and Aputure B7C bulb).
You got me at the beginning. Also, Really good content!
Awesome! Thank you!
I had the Neewer stand for about a month, it fell apart pretty quickly with a Blue Snowball Mic on it. I wouldn't recommend. Will be going for the RØDE.
I'm in the market for a new boom arm, and here you are. You do the best reviews. Looks like I'm gonna get the Rode. I use a @Near Worker Bee and its too heavy for my Neewer. Thank you.
The Rode is absolutely terrific.
the 13 dollar mic stand actually works extremely well you stretch the pring from origanal placement too the opposite ending side on the spring. in addition those nobs will tighten to the absolute tightest it can and then eventually gives and loosens but it will never break its extremely durable ive abused ine for a year and half its not even got a dent
I'm so happy I took the advice of buying a boom arm without springs exposed as they're built better than the one with springs
Agreed!
Man, I have been watching a lot of reviews, you do an awesome job reviewing bro! To the point and good camera editing congrats! Can you please comment on how having the Rode stand clamped would pickup noises versus a desktop stand? Won't the sound still travel through? Keep up the good work and thanks! I am just going to be using a Rode VideoMic Pro+ for conference calls.
Thank you for the kind words! The rode arm can definitely still transfer noise, but it's not as much as with a regular desk stand.And if you're able to use a shock mount with your mic, it'll really help solve the issue.
I keep my arm mounded to a side desk, so nothing happens even when I hit or bump my main desk (I have two tables positioned in an L shape).
Stands to reason Tom, thanks for the video!
The intro has so many terrible puns I love it
I've had the neeewer stand for a few years, been looking to upgrade, and I can absolutely say it'll get the job done if you just need something
It's more than served it's purpose! Glad to hear that.
Same, been using it on my fifine mic, much lighter weight than the podmic and just upgraded to a podmic so was checking if my arm can handle the weight but seems I'll need to upgrade it next month
Buyer Beware, mine lasted 6 days. I might've just had a defective unit. Still, that indicates an extreme lack of quality control.
An update: I have an AT2040 now and it's so much better
I've had a Neewer mic stand for around 4 years now paired with a Rhode Procaster (a 1.6lb mic!). It does have slight mic drift over time, but can be corrected by just tightening those structural bolts/nuts on each joint with 2 wrenches. Not very good if you are trying to attach it to a desk that is backed against a wall as it protrudes about 1.5 inches instead of being flush. However, I'd say it performs VERY well for it's pricepoint.
Punderful video Tom! I really mic-ed it. You spring loaded my mind.
Nice. 🏆
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I’m so glad to hear it haha!
@@tombuck I have all day learning new products. Thanks you!! Btw is possible if you talk about cables quality in sounds. I just buy the Amazon basic but a friend told me "you need to get a professional one, because the amazon's create noise." But I don't know if is true and I don't know brands of cables
instead of the Neewer for the arm i recommend the INNOGEAR one instead. Its around the same price but the spring is moveable for adjustable tension and the tightening things work and don't hit the springs. i bought one about 6 months ago and it still hasn't died
I can vouch for the cheap neewer mic stand, got mine for like 8 bucks, the only weak part is the part that you gotta insert in to the clamp, I recommend putting something like a metal stick, and just put it there so it lasts longer, mine broke, but asked my dad to soldier it back, and it super sturdy now, I tighten the screws around the boom arm to make it a little bit sturdier, and that helps with a heavy mic, also recomend oiling it from time to time cuz it can get squeaky
*I see you've taken playlisting into account😂*
I picked up a couple of those exact Neewer arms from Amazon when I first got set up and everything you mentioned are legit concerns, but it was a great $13 spent to even see how I would (or ultimately wouldn't) use an arm. Then I could have researched just the right arm for my space and setup, or gone my ultimate route and bought a desktop stand. My take: Don't skimp on the recording equipment (mic/interface), but get to know how you'll use the accessories in the least expensive way practically possible. Only invest once you know it'll be worth it.
They’re a great place to start. I definitely understand not wanting to spend a ton of money if someone doesn’t know if they’re going to stick with the new project. But once you’re in it for the long haul, it absolutely makes sense to save up and invest in your gear.
I'd love to see a comparison review of the Rode PSA1 vs the Blue Compass arm. I went the route of the Compass Arm - I like it's closed tube style and personally think it looks more elegant.
My foray into turning my office into a "studio" with PodMic, Rodecaster Pro, ATEM Mini Pro, Sony a6400, a couple SM58's, Blue Yeti Pro, LED lights along with a bunch of accessories and cheap mics - all started with me ordering a $200 Blue Podcaster package (Compass Arm + Yeti mic). As I was patiently waiting for it to arrive from a backorder I started looking at CZcams for ways to up my conference call/Zoom game.
Needless to say I came across your Channel, Aaron Pareki's and others and well. I got impatient on the backorder and then somehow all this awesome gear just started showing up 🤣 The Podcaster package never came (cancelled on back order), so I just ordered the Compass Arm. I use it every day - for video and conference calls, and I love it.
Hmmm, could be a good backstory for a CZcams video 😆
Well, you convinced me. I've gotten a lot of people asking about the Blue arm, so I ordered one to make a comparison. I've got the next two weeks off of work, so it'll be a good time to play around with it 👍
Tom I like the new intro, simple but really nice!
Thank you!
How did you know what I was looking for? I looked on Google and came across your video😂
Fantastic! I’m also glad to hear Google is helping me out a bit 😁
You disconnect the spring screw and the rear screw of the same joint and swap them to adjust tension. This mic stand which I have been using for years is definitely a lock and go (leave it where it is after you hit record or start streaming). If you are trying to use it with the screws loose they will loosen and fall. That doesn't include the tension screw for the mounting point that is about the only one that can stay loose. I have had the mount slip off over time multiple times but also do not use a furniture mover which the softness and more grip of a non metal may actually fix.
However I would personally still pay for the newer over the rode because it isn't a big deal to me that it is lock and go which is functionally the only difference I see. The thing that I would really want in my next boom arm would be one with an adjustable strut for length of the arm or having it where the mounting point can be turn 90 degrees and still be stable. Having a single length adjustment where decreasing the length increases the height either causes desk interference or monitor interference when you use it for gaming especially on a smaller desk.
Great insights- thanks for adding this!
I had the neewer in this review (still do actually), but i didnt use it for very long. yes its sturdy, but its too short, neewer has one thats a little longer and i picked that up.
I used it for about 2 years with an SM48 and it worked brilliantly. i then bought an SM7B, and the honeymoon is pretty much over.
yes it holds the SM7B but you have to really really crank on the hinge screws to the point it becomes difficult to move and even then it can sag and bounce a bit.
IMHO go with the initial suggestion in the vid, get the rode psa 1. just save your money, and buy once cry once. especially if you've got a mic that costs around $100-$150 like the rode podmic in this video, you've already saved an arm and a leg by not buying a $400-$500 mic, so invest a little more and get a really good boom arm for it. you wont be sorry!
love the vids man.. good stuff, your camera/lighting is awesome af.
Great insights, thanks for sharing!
Haha 😆 did I hear you say “anyeewer”? (Anywhere + Neewer)
Nailed it.
Great video, as always!
It took three takes to get that right 👍
@@tombuck well worth the effort!
how did you get the bottom half the of the mic arm to move forward mine is stiff af? did you loosen the screws at the bottom?
I didn’t do anything special 🤷🏻♂️
Have you noticed your microphone unscrewing for the mount? I have a fairly cheap one (I think it was a bit more expensive than the neewer) and I’ve noticed my microphone unscrewing a lot. Do you think this is because of quality or do boom arms just do that?
It can happen on any arm. Many of them have a small counter screw thing that can help keep the mic in place.
I have 3 cheapo stands a lot like the Newer. One I bought solo for $10. The other two came with microphones. Love them all the only issue I've had was with tightening until I discovered the threading tape that came with them. Wrap some around the loose screws and they tighten right up. Been using my main one for 2 years. Haven't felt the need to upgrade... ***Until now that I've received my Rode Podmic*** Hefty hefty hefty.
1:02 i have the same problem with my blue yeti nano,the stand doesnt hold it down anymore it goes up because the microphone is too light i guess.
Any ideas?
It is designed with heavy mics in mind, but in theory, you should be able to reduce the tension to accomodate a lighter mic. It just doesn't seem like that's always the case...
Fair review👍
I go straight to PSA1+😅
I've got a cheap one like the Neewer you showed, the clamp is even worse and the springs amplify any bump and movement on the desk, which goes right into the mic.
That’s true- I didn’t think about the sound transfer.
I have the Rode desk stand and love it!
I have gotten that exact arm with a micrfone in a set, it was great and is reliale for now about half a year, and as a starting point it is fine.
So I would recomend it for the start if you are not sure about how serious you are going to get and so on.
Now as I am upgrading my audio gear from mic to mixer etc. I have ordered a more expensice and quality arm...
As such I would 100% agree with the notion of what he said, if you need a cheep and small arm for a short period of time, go for it, and my added point of it being a more beginner level equipment part.
Great advice! Budget options are awesome for anyone just starting out who's not sure if it's something they're going to stick with.
Great video. How long is the SC29 cable?
At 2:19, the shure mv7 is connected via a 90 deg xlr connector.. can u tell me the brand?
The ones I found are "LyxPro" on Amazon. 👍
Will it hold up the AKG P120 mic well?
The support accessories can be a huge pain in the butt sometimes. I have the hardest time buying them because I struggle with spending so much money after focusing my budget on the main stuff like camera, mic, lens, etc. However, 10 times out of 10, getting quality support hardware is key. Protect the expensive gear you're getting by ensuring you get the right hardware the first time. Get something good and you'll never need to replace it. I recently spent $200 CAD on a C-stand. To me that was absurd, but it is absolutely not going anywhere and my go-to for my more expensive lights. I also know it's going to retain good value over time because of how durable it is. If you want a quality experience, don't let your support gear get in the way of the other gear you're using. Thanks for introducing me to the Rode PSA1, Tom.
You are 100% correct. And that c stand will likely last a lifetime.
Best feature of the PSA1 is being able to mount it flush to the sidewall.
Not to mention, the angle of the mic does not change when moving and extending the arm :)
Both great features!
I like to think in terms of value and friction regarding equipment. I look to reduce friction (setup, ease of use, durability, missing functionality, etc...) as much as possible with the highest value (balancing cost/quality/performance). I tend to find my personal sweet spot in the upper middle range of things - Rode, Fujifilm, Godox, etc... Having said all that, for $13, that Neewer arm would be a good second/third arm option for something light that mostly stays in place. Thanks for sharing info about all the options out there. I bet the Amazon delivery driver is surprised on days he's not delivering to your house. Haha.
Haha, yeah, they know us pretty well. But I agree 100% about the value of reducing friction or pain points in a workflow 👍
do you have a Blue Compass because you never made an reviev for it and i think the psa 1 is very good but the compass kills everything.
I don’t have one. It looks great, but I saw several reviews that made me think there were some usability quirks that didn’t make it as practical as the Rode.
I totally agree. Whenever possible, buy it once, buy it for life. I think that's especially important when you're talking about universal hardware like a boom arm or a camera tripod or something.
Buy some sturdy hardware once, and it will save you having to replace it once it breaks; or worse yet, causes something more expensive to break.
Absolutely. It’s definitely worth the investment.
With what kind of mic setup do you rekord this video? I'm asking because I cant see any mics in the video :-D
Did you ever do a video about that?
I do have a few videos about how I do my audio, but it's a Rode VideoMic NTG on a PSA boom arm positioned just out of frame and running directly to my camera through a long cable. 👍
I have the Tonor T20 boomarm, and it works like a charm. Feels sturdy, the clamp is incredible durable and has the same design as the rode one.
PS: I'm using it with the Blue Yeti (non pro). The Rode podmic is still in backorder, and I still haven't received the rodecaster pro :(.
Great video... True-ish... also having both for 5years now, I have the cheapo on my second desk... and personally I think if you absolutely tighten the generic one you can use it for mics lights or phone holder when zooming/teaming/Skyping/insta-living
Or even small camera with small lens(experimenting for yourself of course) I actually love it and have recommended it especially to starters and students in this great year we have been having.
Thanks for vid...
Great to hear some insight after a long term use! I'm glad it's still holding up well.
In addition the one I got has the XLR to XLR CABLE wired through the arm with is brilliant for cable management as you can see any wires... so basically comes even cheaper than $13 if you think about it...
Would it work with the Akg p220? I have read that it has a weight minimum of 700 grams
I can’t say for sure, but I think it’d work with when you add a mount of some kind to the mic.
Tom Buck I want to buy the rode podmic but the problem is that if I want to get good performance I need also mixer I don't have a lot of money so what is the mixer you are recommended to someone like me?
Any XLR mic is going to require an interface of some kind. Rode does make a single channel interface, and the Focusrite Scarlett is very popular too.
@@tombuck thank you for the help I will try to see
I pickup up that neewer stand not long ago, it's cheap sure but I never ran into these problems.
It tightens up just fine, it's solid clamped on my desk (could be something to do with desk material)
And when I loosen and tighten it stays where it should. Using an AT3035 with it and no complaints yet 🤷
That's great to hear! If it working for you, then it's perfect- especially with a low price.
IF U DONT MIND ME ASKING THIS WHAT SOMTWARE DO U USE TO TELL THE VOLUME OF THE MIC U SHOW IT ON URE SCREEN AT THE END
That was Adobe Audition. It's really great audio editing software, especially for spoken word projects like podcasts.
My neewer arm is lasting me for 3 years now, never had any real problems with it :D but i do need more range, thats why im looking to get an upgrade :)
Great video. Thank you 😄
I have the 13 dollar streams coming from Amazon today. I have a gm300 I’m trying to attach to it. I think it might work for me, temporarily!! Thanks again
I'm sure it'l get the job done! Hope you like it 👍
@@tombuck I didn’t proof read. 🤦♂️ I’m sure you knew what I Meant. Hate it when I do that. Thanks for the reply 🙂
It’s ok, most of my replies are from my iPad, which causes a ridiculous amount of typos 👍
Mine was $25 when I bought it, but that was also because it came with an XLR cable that was routed through the metal housing. Three years of use and after just one more tightening when re-installing it onto my desk the clamp piece just tore off.
Oof, I guess the cheaper metals aren't made to withstand too much moving/twisting, but 3 years isn't bad for $25!
Especially with my PodMic, the cheaper spring booms seem to transfer a TON of mechanical noise into the mic body compared to my PSA1+ (especially the spring binding sounds themselves). Main use-case, guest in podcast lounge chair that constantly moves the boom arm as they get settled into the show.
I bought one just like you got but it was to big for my desk so I had to get the smaller version and I love it man, looks great on camera and it holds my lighter mics
Glad you found the right one for your setup!
@@tombuck Thanks bro
Love your lighting, any chance you could make a video on that? Or if you have one could you please link me?
I'm planning to do a lighting overview video soon! So thanks for asking because it proves it's a good idea 😁
@@tombuck looking forward to it 👌
My question is that would my Samson Q2U mic be too light for the Rode PSA1 ? The mike may be too light for the Rode PSA1 and therefore the mic will spring upwards. Any thoughts?
Nope, the Q2u works very well on the PSA1 👍
If the tension isn’t right straight from the factory you can always adjust it too.
@@tombuck OK: Thanks for replying.
My problem with the PSA1 is that the spring is too tensioned for most dynamics, which are only a few hundred grams. RODE told me not to adjust tension screws to try and get it to work with those. So it works fine if you have your average condenser setup, but for light dynamics it'll just fly up on you.
This is strange- I've never encountered that personally. I wouldn't be afraid to turn the tension screws a little bit and see if it helps.
Hello from India Tom! Thank you for all your videos - they have inspired me to start my own podcast that I’ll share once I release it next year :)
Two quick questions:
1. What editing software do you use for editing your podcasts?
2. (I just had to ask) what’s the desk mat that you use?
Thank you! Good luck with your show!
My desk mat is from "Steelseries" and I use Adobe Audition to edit audio. 👍
@@tombuck thanks - your videos and puns deserve way more than the current subscriber count - it’s rightly on the up and up!
Video recommendation in case you find the time (or want to!) - Adobe Audition tutorial. Had to put it out there :)
Even if not, here’s to more pun-tastic content!
My two Rode Podmics came in today from Best Buy! Ordered a "Professional Rode Podmic Boom Arm with Pop Filter, Stand and Windscreen for Rode Podmic" from YOUSHARES on eBay but it's coming from England so won't get here til Christmas. Wish I'd got the Rode PSA1 instead because that looks like it will last forever!
Well I hope you enjoy yours! It could turn out to be totally fantastic!
Hi Tom - Great video! Helped me decide - quick question tho. What mount are you using and does that mount fit the yeti x?
Most boom arms come with a 3/8 inch mount, but you can put on a 5/8 inch adapter to use the Yeti or a mic that has a standard mount.
@@tombuck I'm looking for something similar to the rode podmic swing mount for the yeti x. The only mounts I can find are shock mounts. Do you know of anything similar for yeti x?
Hmm, I don’t- but there may be some sort of bracket for another mic that fits the yeti. I’d be so interested in finding one!
@@tombuck if you come across one (or anyone else for that matter) let me know. I love the aesthetic so much more than the shock mounts but I'm not ready to part with my yeti x
Thank you Tom
Hey Tom, I'm curious about the setup you use (for audio) for your videos. Any chance you could do a view breakdown?
I usually use the Rode Videomic NTG anytime the mic is not visible in the shot (working on a video about it now).
@@tombuck thanks for sharing!
Just bought bought a Rode Podmic. Okay now I see your point. My $10 stands are no match for its might. 😩
Haha, it's a VERY heavy mic.
"Neewer, exactly what you'd expect" 😂 I'm dead...
To be fair though, I've had some pretty good experiences with some of their products. I have a Cstand of theirs that's pretty decent and I used to use a small motorized dolly that was only 60 dollars and worked like a charm. I guess it's always a hit or a miss with these companies.
It's seems like their bigger support items are pretty good. I've seen lots of people use the wall mounted boom arms for heavy things like cameras and lights with no issues.
I picked up one of the newer booms in a pinch about 2 maybe 3 years ago. It has been going strong. Having to do more video stuff for work I upgraded a bunch of my setup and will be getting a new boom for a heavier mic. If your in a pinch the newer will get the job done just don't bump in while recording it is squeaky
Good to know that lasted so long!