Hallertau | Rahdo's Final Thoughts
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A video outlining gameplay for the boardgame Hallertau.
For more game info, boardgamegeek....
Part I: Gameplay Runthrough
• Hallertau Gameplay Run...
Part II: Final Thoughts
• Hallertau | Rahdo's Fi...
Love the runthrough and the shirt. Being indigenous myself it makes me happy that you are bringing awareness to this issue.
congrats 100k!
I love your "Rosenberg Shackles". If boardgames eventually arise to a school of academic writing, this phrase will be a part of the discourse.
Great playthrough, I love that you can tell immediately how much you enjoy it. I've always kinda been intimidated by his giant games like Caverna and Feast For Odin but this seems really easy to get a handle on, I definitely am gonna give it a shot.
Also just wanted to say thanks for all the great content you put out last year. Awesome stuff as usual but I really enjoyed the videos from Shea and Ryan as well, and all the guest spots were so good! Hope to see plenty more of both in 2021. 2020 was really tough for me but your videos really helped distract from a lot of that. Thanks so much! (also really appreciate your choice in shirts)
After planning this my thought was Rahdo and Jen would love this, glad you are enjoying it.
Really hoping to pick this up in April. Even more excited for it now I've watched your vids on it. "Best since Agricola!" High praise indeed! I am a huge Uwe fan, but was a bit lukewarm to this one initially. That turned around and now its seeming that this might just be a special one after all. Can't wait to play it! Also, my family played 'gric for over two years every weekend (and sometimes in between) it was a revelation for me! Rosenberg is still the king of designers in this house.
99.9k! Almost there!
Congrats on 100k !!
I agree this game is amazing from Uwe! Love to play it solo and with the market variant of bgg, to enjoy and build the cool combos :)
I know i am late to the game but this game is what i need and want for sure, gates of Loyang is the first Uwe farming game i had and fell in love with it and still play it and im just discovering the games i missed and want so badly, started just months ago with this hobby :)
even though im late to this video i wanted to thank you for the rundown/play-through and this video, your excitement made me excited too.
I do have more Uwe games but those are light and easy to play and do in about half an hour like patchwork, spring meadow, my kids love them so much but i am just so hungry for amazing solo games that scale well. (did watch your top list solo games too)
thank you for the kind words, and welcome to the party pal! :)
Before that one person posts...yes, he liked it. And that is okay! 😁 Thanks for the great work as always, Richard!
Loved the visual of "drowning in milk" at 9:10. :)
Really hope this goes down in price! Looks so cool, gameply wise, but so expensive (especially with the production not seemingly above and beyond). I like the resource tracking mechanism for instance, but that should help drive cost down!
I get why you don't include value in reviews. For instance, I had thought you could weight your rating by price (eg $100 ÷ 8.741). That would rocket games like Tiny Towns waaaay ahead in 'value.' However, even if prices stayed static (as I say, hope this one doesn't), individuals may find deals, used games etc, but more importantly, it would be trying to make a subjective opinion objective. I suppose if someone said 'wow, my tastes are EXACTLY the same as Rahdo's,' they could always apply a 'value' weighting factor themselves...
Anyway, another great video, thank you!
Hi Richard another great video :) where would this rank on your all time list of Uwe's games?
#2, with agricola being #1
Wow even higher than Glass Road now i need to check this out.
Of the "Essen" Euros I have Red Cathedral, Arnak and pre-orders for Hallertau and Pragna. Looking forward to seeing how they will rank and compare.
Excellent shirt
Was interested to hear you suggest that getting to 10/11 workers may be sufficient in this game...just had a quick look through our scored games and the least either my wife or I have got from the community centre so far has been 46 points...with overall scores being in the 90 to 120 range. That would be a hell of a lot of points to make up with just the cards and scoring the "threes" for a few craft building moves??
Yes, the community points are too big to ignore
Some reviews of Hallertau have mentioned that the cards, especially the endgame bonus cards, add a huge factor of luck to this game. I recall this being a huge negative for you in Nusfjord. I am curious how the endgame luck in Hallertau will compare to Nusfjord for you after the opportunity for more plays, or if you already have thoughts on that comparison?
hallertau is a much bigger game where you get a lot more done and by the end have a lot of pivot options. nusfjord was smaller in scope, so you couldn't zig as well if cards demanded a zig. also, there were fewer, more impactful cards in nus, while hall gives you a lot more small impact cards, which gives it a different vibe as well.
@@rahdo Thanks for the quick response!
I keep sitting on the fence about this game [have yet to have a chance to play it]. I'm a big fan of agricola and glassroads. I prefer tight games, and ones where you always wish you had one more turn! I didn't feel as enamoured by caverna or feast for odin, for example. I'm guessing fields of arle is also not right for me. This one though seems to be middling - so will I like it? Is there enough channeling direction in the game in your opinion? very tempted to buy this but maybe the rosenberg ones I already have are enough for that uwe itch...?
Great review, thanks. Do you think it's better than Agricola? I prefer this game's art so much more than Uglycola's and if I was to buy either or, which one would should I choose? Thanks :)
i'd still give the nod to agriola, but that's in part because i have a strong nostalgic connection to the game as it ws one of the firs games we played that pushed into boardgamegeek status!. and we also really enjoy the more harsh and unforgiving nature of agricola... hallertau is a bit more laid back. so that might be something to make your decision based on :)
I think the moving boulder mechanism is weird, where rocks keep themselves socially distanced (two spaces apart)
they symbolically represent the obstacles in advancing our towns technological base. they're not physical boulders.
@@rahdo maybe uwe had some premonition whilst designing the game that all things would require social distancing in 2020 ;)
yay 100k!!
This looks like the best Uwe Rosenberg game since A Feast for Odin.
i would agree with that, though for me it's even better than odin :)
This was my #1 of 2020.
As for favourite Uwe games, I probably prefer A Feast for Odin and Fields of Arle, but this is not far behind.
As someone getting into solo board gaming (with occasional 2-4 player games) and wants to play a farm game, would this be a good place to start?
oh i would say yes for sure. about the reason i might say go for agricola instead (or green fields) would be that in this game, the farming is a bit abstracted. none of the cards have thematic explanations of why they convert X to Y, for example.
@@rahdo thanks for the reply! Does Fields of Arle have a decent solo mode, or is it all 2 player?
It’s funny you mentioned the abstractions, I noticed that in your play through!
@@rahdo wait… I also see Fields of Green in a game. Lots of “field” games it seems!
fields of arle is a nice one too, but i never tried it solo.
oh, speaking of, i forgot to metnion fields of green isn't solo out of the box. you have to also get the grand fair expansion
what's that game on the shelf next to It's A Wonderful World????
The green one next to It's a wonderful world should be Walnut Grove, as far as I can tell.
correct!
@@ShaneOMac085 Thanks!
And again Uwe coudn't made Automa AI to beat in Solo game. Just "good points", "extraordinary points", but no clear win/loss condition. That's sad, I like "get high score" solo, but I think, ideally there should be also variant with AI opponent to beat also. Of course, with adjustable difficulty modes.
I used to feel this way, but so many solo automas have been hard to manage and ridiculously hard to beat, my opinion is starting to reverse on that. Matters get worse when the automa seems like it is playing a different game by a completely different set of rules.
Do you like this better than feast of Odin or Agricola or caverna?
you can see how i rate everything i've got at games.rahdo.com (might have to refresh once or twice)
You know what doesn't feel right? The price! I'm sorry but I'm not gonna shell out $100 (canadian) when i can get Viscount of the West Kingdom for $50, Tekhenu for $60 and even Agricola for $70... Arnak is $60, Whistle Mountain $70, I could go on and on... those are all great games with lots of components, at much lower prices... when will someone finally factor in the cost of the games during reviews?! You're not the only reviewer who doesn't mention it by the way. And it's not the first expansive uwe game either, caverna and feast for odin were also very expansive. Do what you want but I'm boycotting this one sorry...
@@gaillardlionel I am not surprised. Uwe Rosenberg usually price his games higher, especially since this game just came out.I do not blame reviewers for not mentioning price because price is relative to each individual. You have to look at the components and gameplay to judge for yourself whether it’s worth the money spent.
@@gaillardlionel 2 games that feel like an 8 cannot compare to the love a 10 gets.
@@antgerfitz except this game is hardly a 10... it's just another euro with one new mechanic (aging fields) and a bunch of random cards to spice it up and give it some replayability, but mostly deja-vu. Not bad at all don't get me wrong but not a 10 in my books... I'd buy it at half the price. Component wise we're talking about cubes and small cards here right? I get the love aspect, unconditional fans with big wallets will buy it, but for me the price is wrong.
where would you rank this in your top 10 uwe rosenberg's games?
right now my t10 uwe games would be
10. agricola all creates great & small
9. sagani
8. spring meadow
7. feast for odin
6. gates of loyang
5. bohnanza duel
4. merkator
3. glass road
2. hallertau
1. agricola
My favourite game of 2020 and my third favourite Rosenberg game after A Feast for Odin and Fields of Arle. Such amazing combo building.
When people say it is bad that you have to focus on upgrading the building it feels to me as if people would say it is bad that in Terraforming Mars you need to focus on terraforming.
that's an excellent way to put it, i will use that in the future! :)
Will getting weaker cards at the beginning put you at a disadvantage?
nope, they're mathematically balaced :)
Agricola was...."I could do all this awesome stuff...but I need to get 2 food instead. Ok i finally have an engine and I can...what? Game over?!"
Wait, there isn’t a puzzle built into the game somewhere? 😂
How does this rate vs Agricola?
you can see how i rate everything i've got at games.rahdo.com (might have to refresh once or twice)
Better than Feast??
without the expansion? definitely :)
@@rahdo and with the expansion?
that's a bit tougher. i think i'd still be inclined to go with this over feast+norwegians. i can't stress how fun those mini-card-combos are :)
looks good but not sure its worth 70€
Your audio track is ever so slightly off which unfortunately makes it hard to follow. Maybe you want to fix this and reupload?
that's odd, i just checked and it looks fine here. if anyone else notices this, could you chime in?
@@rahdo Sounds fine with me. No probs whatsoever.
@@rahdo It's more pronounced further into the video.
@@KickstarterRadio1024 It's sounds fine but it's not perfectly lip-synced.
@@Shepard4711 makes it hard to follow!? omg
Release date?
www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/2542522/article/36440735#36440735 :)
January 29th is the American release per Asmodee.
Looks absolutely brutal. Function over form not great for selling the game even if it's great. An epic disappointment for us 4 at the station at KiS 102.4. And grats on the 100k subs... you rock!