tldr : both are useful on most content, especially Explosive raid boss. Also, great Explosive dealer for starter Emulator that I've use : id.ldplayer.ne...
@@AveragePunEnjoyerholy shit i know mika was voiced by yui seiyuu but i didnt realised nagisa was voiced the same as yukino omgg. I did not planned to pull on nagisa banner but after knowing the seiyuu i feel conflicted now. I wanted to save for NY rerun but i doubt i would get enough for 200 pull if i pull nagisa banner😭😭😭
Even in Japan, some people skipped Nagisa because Hibiki was there, but they later regretted it. Toki is a fun character to use, but she rarely appears in actual battles. In contrast, Nagisa became top tier and Hibiki's value dropped. The conclusion in Japan is that Nagisa cannot be replaced by Hibiki. As someone who plays the JP version, I recommend getting both if possible, but if you can only choose one, I'd recommend Nagisa.
With both being limited, you will probably want to pick them up if your pyro reserve permits. However be very careful on emptying your Pyro reserve because the NY PS68 banner is around the corner and you have the META support NY Kayoko (perm) and a rerun of a very good blue AOE student NY Mutsuki (limited). Speaking of meta importance, NY Kayoko is definitely way higher up than Nagisa (tho Nagisa is limited) One thing to keep in mind that while Nagisa is core on Greg, doing Greg require such specific units that people simply opt to do extreme (which you don't need Nagisa to clear) or Insane with Aru comp (which you uses Himari Ako). If you pull Nagisa for Greg, make sure you are prepared on what you need for the raid as the full built backline comp is extremely expensive to build because of all the new units you need. Of course you can simply do extreme which was enough to plat on JP (Note the fast comp is Aru Himari Ako so keep that in mind) With that said, Nagisa is starting to see more uses: Hiero Torment, Kaiten Torment, Greg Insane+ (Note her role on Insane is only needed if you are not using Aru comp), Peroro (Explosive) Insane (the only place where she is used over Ako). So it is a good idea to pick her up if you can (again I want to emphasize NY Kayoko is on a different level of importance compared to her).
*if someone still didn't understand toki sub skill, let me---* Quite simple actually, it's about "stack/growth" If you want to _deal more damage_ , use it on the third attack (Of course, spam buff with ako/ny.fuuka/himari/and etc) *"but then she will back to her normal form"* Of course... Use Ask 🗿
Nagisa is a core student for torment red raids, and her utility is pretty much one that shall age like fine wine. Every single player that wants to do red torment must have her. But the thing is, in a meta perspective you will only use her on torment,(talking about raids not events stage and drill) since hypercarry sup (Himari, Ako) have more utility, because of that on insane you wouldn't even need to use Nagisa assuming that you have or can borrow the meta supports. Torment red raids can't be done with one team, so that's why she becomes a must have or a must borrow for the highest difficulty of the game, if you don't have her, you will need to borrow her and that will make you do less damage + making your life harder. Her kit is great and as the game progresses she is becoming more and more useful, so if you are a meta slave, getting her will really help you in the future and save your borrow slot for a high bond level DPS. People don't really understand that the thing that makes Nagisa desirable is the fact that her utility can't be replaced, you can't use another student to do what Nagisa does because only Nagisa does what Nagisa does lol. You can replace Toki with other red dps but you can't replace Nagisa expecting someone to do the same role
Pretty brutal that the NY banner is after this one. Hopefully I won't have to use my wallet too much to get these two along with NY Mutsuki and NY Kayoko
How do you know the next banner ? (Srry i'm new and actually rerolling and idk if i should reroll on the standard banner, for toki, nagisa or wait for the next banner)
nagisa's def debuff before damage is helpful it would be helpful for saori and s.hoshino, idk if i should pull for toki since saori's ex skill is guaranteed crit plus the double explosive buffs from hoshino is enough for me , after this banner i saving for s.hanako
Saving for S.Hanako from here on is a bit eh Next fes is not that soon, it's a bit less than half a year to wait, yknow, Mika was like a month ago? so it's a really hot take if you wanna skip all the great students that are going to join global before S.Hanako, yeah you can probably argue most of them are not limited, but there's also no guarantee you get them outside of their rate-up at all (and it's gonna hurt), also it is almost certainly going to hinder your teams' performance on a short run if you're not adding anyone to your roster for such a long time Anyways, I really recommend looking through students that are going to join us, and come up with a realistic plan of who to pull/skip, and not just dumping everything in fes banner, expecting a miracle Have a nice day)
since the reveal of toki. I've seen a lot of her in toki's poses from fist of the north star so that alone sold me on pulling her. any reference to fist of the north star is a win
...it took everything just to pull both of them. now i do not know how to farm for pyroxenes since im already at the endgame content and only playing as F2P. this sucks...
I know Toki got tons of fans, but speaking of usefulness I would say Nagisa Clearly wins over Toki. Nagisa due to utility works on all red bosses very well, while Toki only really on Urban Hiero. Not to mention on Gregorius Nagisa is FAR more useful than Toki would ever be. And this is concern as Gregorius is boss where most of students are useless and you need specific ones to do well.
any tips for gregorius? here's my explosive students i use in boss raids: "striker" saori s.hoshino koharu atsuko mutsuki "support" fuuka (normal) ---the rest i borrow NY fuuka
@@totoromingu2053 bad news for you - Saori and S.Hoshino are very bad on insane/torment because of incoming damage which is mystic,same goes for Atsuko. You need heavy armor students and AoE red special students like Saya , Maid Yuzu , Minori , S.Miyu -those 3 come later and 2 even for free. Sadly Greg is huge P2W as you kinda need future students from Rabbits summer event and Shanhaijing one to do well on insane/torment difficulty. Surprisingly enough Saya looks like solid pick from units we have already easily farmable. Koharu from your list is also essential from what I have seen.
@@Mario-kf3ej dont worry, im newbie in this game around 3 months and usually i do normal, hard or very hard , there are much to i need learn in this game
@@totoromingu2053 As someone who's only played since last November & only reached max level recently, yeah I'd say not to worry too much. From my experience, most raids seem to be pretty easy to clear up to Hardcore (Having around Lv.60-70 students with T5-T6 equipments should make it easy) and once you've started minmaxing students (Lv.70-80 students, T7 equipments) Extreme raids should be as easy as Hardcore. Torment seems like an entirely different difficulty by itself, and looks to be only for enthusiast, that even players who pay a lot can't clear them unless they're being really accurate in the rotations & whatnot. Honestly, I'm happy enough if I can clear insane raids consistently, and for that to happen I need more versatility in my piercing & mystic student lineups. I'd like to have Toki, but since I likely won't do torment for a long time I'll skip her for upcoming must-have piercing & mystic students instead. For Gregorius, it applies debuff on your striker students which is the reason why you want Nagisa & Minori for it since they can't be debuffed, being off-fielders (not sure if you can exchange them with other off-fielder attackers). You also want to only apply the right amount of debuff on it since too little or too much will apparently kill you. In a sense, it has certain requirements similar to Goz (which needs a student with focus assault) where if you don't bring the right students, clearing it is impossible on higher difficulties. That said, I'm expecting it's rather easily doable up to Hardcore like all the other raids, and the strict student requirements would probably start only on Hardcore & so on.
@@totoromingu2053 For Greg, I will suggest you to farm heavily the Maid Yuzu event as she is a very good AOE backline welfare students that some people use her over Minori. Keep in mind that while S.Hoshino is usable, you basically have to have all the pieces to make that happen (i.e., UE40+ Aru, UE30+ Koharu, Himari and Ako) on Insane. Don't bother with any other S.Hoshino comp as the raid is extremely hostile towards the frontline units If you don't want to pull students only for Greg raid (which I would put Nagisa > S.Saki > Mina >= S.Miyako in order of importance), then my advice is to just stick to extreme. Using both Maid Yuzu and S.Miyu is sufficient for clearing extreme in reasonable time if you can borrow S.Saki. And both of those backline are welfare students. For reference, on JP a fast extreme clear (which involves the aforementioned Aru comp) is enough to plat. So it is not like you need to do insane to plat
Man, i think ill try and pull exclusively on Nagisas banner and pray that i get Nagisa like that and then spark Toki. Better yet i just pull them both early on so i can save my pyro for someone else like S.Hanako. here's hoping lol
Nah, Toki can usually be replaced by other Red DPS students or simply be borrowed if needed. Stars for Nagisa would affect her own damage and healing mostly while leaving her Def debuff and Crit Dmg buffs unaffected, so its worth is going to depend on your team surviving or dying with her healing. Of course, this is only for the harder content, because if not, there will be strong students in the future to save for.
Hey just some feedback. Would it be possible to timestamp and to include a summary at the beginning the viability to early-mid and endgame players and whether to invest now or later. Just asking
To be clear: both this banner you shouldn't skip...if you pull only one off them you might regret not have other one..for anyone who had 24k you safe but for someone who not is just depends on you luck😊
@@sen5466 and to be real here, most of us are still in hardcore & extreme, and fewer that can clear insane raids consistently. Honestly torment is out of reach for the most of us here. In which case, I feel it's better to cover the areas that you lack instead. In my case, I could use a lot more versatility in my piercing & mystic students so I'd skip on Toki since my pyrox is limited unfortunately.
Talking about meta only, Nagi is a key character in Gregorius, Toki is just an option and it's not the best for any raid, so worth way more pull in Nagisa if you're trying platinum in future, way more better.
I might actually skip both of them cuz I really, reaaaally want to get New Year Mutsuki, Aru and Kayoko. If I pull for either Toki or/and Nagisa, I will definitely not have enough Pyrox later on... It might hurt in the long run but I'm also not a competitive player either, so I guess I can allow myself to choose waifu over meta this one time.
I absolutely want both but I will pull on mecha first bc mecha and pray to arona that she may have mercy so I can redeem the other 💙. Ty for giving it to us straight o7.
I guess i'll wait for the next anniversary , Nagi sounds nishe but i already got a pretty good explosive team . Good luck to anyone pulling. (Edit) I abide by my first choice , i got tempted by everyone here and calculate how good her value was (limited+use), and everybody opinion + that 10 free ticket and got her in 30 pulls. I must say i was wrong at first, shes more than worth for bosses and stages. I still got 18k gems tho for the future anniversary or banners KeK. (I send the same massage in comments)
Highly recommended to see through a list of students joining us before S.Hanako arrive, it's really not that soon, Mika was just a month ago( Having a realistic plan on who to pull is a privilege for Global players, as we know half a year schedule ahead of us, and we know how valuable new students are, thanks for players on JP figuring it out already, we also can see how students will do in the future (like for example Nagisa is great for Gregorius) So yeah, pull wisely and for who you like ofc, not to regret it later. Have a nice day
I’d personally pull for nagisa as she has that debuff added on to her skill which is vital for gregarious. While that raid is clearly P2W focused since you’ll need lots of debuff students like Mina, S.Saki, SMiyako, and minori for the massive DPS effectiveness in that raid alone I still think Nagisa is good to pull for.
Nagisa is not that niche as you think. Very good for any high def red raid due to EX def down, also good for Kaiten Torment since she can break the shield, pretty much strong for Greg raid. I would get her if I have to choose one of them.
I abide by my first choice , i got tempted by everyone here and calculate how good her value was (limited+use), and everybody opinion + that 10 free ticket and got her in 30 pulls. I must say i was wrong at first. But i still got 18k gems for the future anniversary or banners KeK.
A question, who should i prioritize to build first as a new player, i started BA just 2 weeks ago and I managed to pull both of them, I don't know who to invest into first.
@@mythos5276 Nagisa is worth raising to 5 stars because of her defence debuff and area damage, whereas raising Toki to 5 stars depends. If you have another explosive attacker better than her (which I highly doubt) then there's no need to raise her to 5 stars.
@@mythos5276 To be honest, a 2-week-old player should level up every 3 star. Don't worry about the "5 star" stuff; by the time you'll actually need to level up your units to 5 stars, you'll have a pretty good grasp of this game and characters, and who knows, you might even manage to pull better characters than these two.
As a Maid lover, ive been wanting more maids and when Toki was released i HAD to have her and thank the goddess i got her in like 1 multi. Peace! Peace!
Hello, I'm a new player and would like to ask, if I've gotten Toki within 50 pulls, since the recruitment points don't carry over, should I continue pulling? Would I face any challenges in going through the story if I don't pull anything? And are there any characters that newer players must pull for?
With the new year banners coming in 1 month, would you still recommend pulling for these 2? Im a new player hence im unsure of which students are a must pull
If you're unsure, you can ask about people is opinion on Discord. I'm not a competitive player though, so I don't have any suggestion. But, what I can say is that, if there's anyone you need more than others, go for that student. Well, if you already planned which students you want to get.
Luckily I got Toki after 205 Pulls and so I was able to choose Nagisa for Pity. Aside from that I got another Copy of Shun (okay I guess), Wakamo Summer and Miyako twice (Shun and the two Miyakos were in one 10 Roll).
I already have Hibiki, so I really don't need another exolosive area damage dealer. However, toki sounds amazing but i really want to save my gems for the banner after this.
Even in Japan, some people skipped Nagisa because Hibiki was there, but they later regretted it. Toki is a fun character to use, but she rarely appears in actual battles. In contrast, Nagisa became top tier and Hibiki's value dropped. The conclusion in Japan is that Nagisa cannot be replaced by Hibiki. As someone who plays the Japanese version, I recommend getting both if possible, but if you can only choose one, I'd recommend Nagisa.
Hmm... Can you pls tell us the next event, banner and limited banner until hanako swimsuit limited banner? I worried that i wasted so much pyroxene on next limited student banner 😅
saved enough hope i get both just within spark they also haven't been available even in the summer hanako banner on jp wondering when they'll be available again should one miss out on this banner 🤔
I think if you're not gonna do Torment difficulty and have a robust roster then you don't need either of them. Besides, they can become regulars by the next year (if BA will live that long). Maybe? Personally I have around 40k pyro and will be rolling Nagisa banner in hopes of getting her and then snatch Toki guaranteed, as I prefer Toki character over Nagisa, but Toki is not as must have as Hikari or Ui.
Yeah... I'm gonna fill another spot of that tea table, that isn't even a option to me, but I will stop at 1 copy since reisa will show up a little after that.
2 limited banners that are core for torment then 1 "skippable banner", then another 2 limited banners that are both spark worthy + limited reruns of core blue raid strikers... This game is fucking brutal on pyroxenes, it's not even funny.
I have SNonomi and she's at 40/120 4* , and toki kind of do the same thing so I'm considering skipping, I'd have liked to have Nagisa tho. But with 5k and 60 momotalks I don't think I can reach even halfway to spark.
Most likely pulling for both since Nagisa's va is Hayami Saori & Toki's va is Ishikawa Yui. Plus I want to clear Gregorius insane since I'll also pull both summer SRT too.
Rolling for both. I have 400 pulls worth of pyro and not afraid to use them. The last 8-7 month of saving is meant for this day and Mika. I'll worry about New Year banner after that.
![[Blue Archive] You should have these New Year students](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hVQdu0yAFLQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Blue Archive] You should have these New Year students](/img/tr.png)
I saw Nagisa and immediately fell in love with how pretty her deign is so im defo pulling for her but it sure will make PS 68 NY absolute hell for me
And I am pulling Nagi for the artillery memes
@@BA_Leafy I'm pulling for Nagi just so I can have the Oregairu seiyuu trio in BA
@@AveragePunEnjoyerholy shit i know mika was voiced by yui seiyuu but i didnt realised nagisa was voiced the same as yukino omgg. I did not planned to pull on nagisa banner but after knowing the seiyuu i feel conflicted now. I wanted to save for NY rerun but i doubt i would get enough for 200 pull if i pull nagisa banner😭😭😭
No question. I've been waiting for Toki ever since she was revealed in JP. May all luck give me this bread.
Definitely pulling for Toki. She kinda reminds me of Saber in terms of design, and she got some of the coolest EX.
Toki becomes a Saberface ☕️
Well, that's also because she has same VA as Saber
@@nayto1812 actually, it's Morgan lol
@@nayto1812 no. she has the same seiyuu as Violet, which also resembles Saber too
which saber?
Even in Japan, some people skipped Nagisa because Hibiki was there, but they later regretted it.
Toki is a fun character to use, but she rarely appears in actual battles. In contrast, Nagisa became top tier and Hibiki's value dropped.
The conclusion in Japan is that Nagisa cannot be replaced by Hibiki. As someone who plays the JP version, I recommend getting both if possible, but if you can only choose one, I'd recommend Nagisa.
Thx!
ight thanks
do u htink it is worth 5 starring her? i have 4 rn
This is what I did too. Gameplay wise, I went with Nagisa and I want to save for NY Kayoko.
With both being limited, you will probably want to pick them up if your pyro reserve permits. However be very careful on emptying your Pyro reserve because the NY PS68 banner is around the corner and you have the META support NY Kayoko (perm) and a rerun of a very good blue AOE student NY Mutsuki (limited). Speaking of meta importance, NY Kayoko is definitely way higher up than Nagisa (tho Nagisa is limited)
One thing to keep in mind that while Nagisa is core on Greg, doing Greg require such specific units that people simply opt to do extreme (which you don't need Nagisa to clear) or Insane with Aru comp (which you uses Himari Ako). If you pull Nagisa for Greg, make sure you are prepared on what you need for the raid as the full built backline comp is extremely expensive to build because of all the new units you need. Of course you can simply do extreme which was enough to plat on JP (Note the fast comp is Aru Himari Ako so keep that in mind)
With that said, Nagisa is starting to see more uses: Hiero Torment, Kaiten Torment, Greg Insane+ (Note her role on Insane is only needed if you are not using Aru comp), Peroro (Explosive) Insane (the only place where she is used over Ako). So it is a good idea to pick her up if you can (again I want to emphasize NY Kayoko is on a different level of importance compared to her).
Thx!
Wait they are limited?
@@Kay-bs3bl Toki and Nagisa are limited meaning they will not be able to be recruited from regular recruitment
I love the banner designs, props to the graphic design team
naming myself Artillery Sensei and then realizing students like HIBIKI and NAGISA is like fate... will roll for her
My British Royal Artillery Regiment is giving me invasive thoughts rn. Need. Nagi.
@@mitzuriki Nagisa: "The enemy, im afraid, is quite dead."
*if someone still didn't understand toki sub skill, let me---*
Quite simple actually, it's about "stack/growth"
If you want to _deal more damage_ , use it on the third attack
(Of course, spam buff with ako/ny.fuuka/himari/and etc)
*"but then she will back to her normal form"*
Of course... Use Ask 🗿
I will pull for Nagisa just for her special interaction with Mika
Definitely pulling for my Infinite Stratos Maid 😍
I SHOULD PULL THEM AND BUILD THEM BECASUE THEY ARE MY WAIFUS.
BUT SENSEI,YOU ONLY CAN HAVE 1!
@@mitzuriki *laughs in first 2 pull being 3-star*
@@hunlepto2239 Laughs in Izumi and Saya
wanna make an unlimited credit card?
The only correct answer
Nagisa is a core student for torment red raids, and her utility is pretty much one that shall age like fine wine. Every single player that wants to do red torment must have her. But the thing is, in a meta perspective you will only use her on torment,(talking about raids not events stage and drill) since hypercarry sup (Himari, Ako) have more utility, because of that on insane you wouldn't even need to use Nagisa assuming that you have or can borrow the meta supports.
Torment red raids can't be done with one team, so that's why she becomes a must have or a must borrow for the highest difficulty of the game, if you don't have her, you will need to borrow her and that will make you do less damage + making your life harder. Her kit is great and as the game progresses she is becoming more and more useful, so if you are a meta slave, getting her will really help you in the future and save your borrow slot for a high bond level DPS.
People don't really understand that the thing that makes Nagisa desirable is the fact that her utility can't be replaced, you can't use another student to do what Nagisa does because only Nagisa does what Nagisa does lol. You can replace Toki with other red dps but you can't replace Nagisa expecting someone to do the same role
do we need nagisa on 3* or 5*+?
well said, at this point you will only roll for Toki because of her unique defense type and her ex skill is cool
@@Skyline_iddepends, if you are looking for the dmg, UE40 should be enough, if you just want the debuff and explosion boost, 3* is fine
@@CrnaStrelaSorry im new to the game,what its UE40?
@@yumilee6822 at 5 star you can use additional elephs to upgrade their weapon (unique equipment = UE to level 40)
Pretty brutal that the NY banner is after this one. Hopefully I won't have to use my wallet too much to get these two along with NY Mutsuki and NY Kayoko
How do you know the next banner ? (Srry i'm new and actually rerolling and idk if i should reroll on the standard banner, for toki, nagisa or wait for the next banner)
@@jawed1209global is behind the JP version of the game by around 6 months so we know what banners are coming in advance
nagisa's def debuff before damage is helpful it would be helpful for saori and s.hoshino, idk if i should pull for toki since saori's ex skill is guaranteed crit plus the double explosive buffs from hoshino is enough for me , after this banner i saving for s.hanako
lol, if there is one banner you musr pull till hananko, thats nykayoko. she is the blue shoshino.
Saving for S.Hanako from here on is a bit eh
Next fes is not that soon, it's a bit less than half a year to wait, yknow, Mika was like a month ago? so it's a really hot take if you wanna skip all the great students that are going to join global before S.Hanako, yeah you can probably argue most of them are not limited, but there's also no guarantee you get them outside of their rate-up at all (and it's gonna hurt), also it is almost certainly going to hinder your teams' performance on a short run if you're not adding anyone to your roster for such a long time
Anyways, I really recommend looking through students that are going to join us, and come up with a realistic plan of who to pull/skip, and not just dumping everything in fes banner, expecting a miracle
Have a nice day)
Nagisa -> NY Kayoko -> Summer Rabbits -> S Hanako
bro will NOT be able to pull for New Year Kayoko.
Nagisa -> Mina(optional) -> Minori -> S.Saki = ez Gregorius
since the reveal of toki. I've seen a lot of her in toki's poses from fist of the north star so that alone sold me on pulling her. any reference to fist of the north star is a win
Early spark
*Early spark!*
*_EARLY SPARK!_*
My pyroxene won't last much longer!
Definitely a duo to get. Going to focus on Toki first but will hope for Nagisa too.
2:10... Ohh It's change From "Siege" and Now "Elastic"
love these videos so much! thank you for doing them!!!!!
...it took everything just to pull both of them. now i do not know how to farm for pyroxenes since im already at the endgame content and only playing as F2P. this sucks...
My pie rock sins are about to fade away and I'm ready to cry about it 😭
Got Nagisa to ue40, and Toki to ue50- feelsgoodman
Laughs in 72K Pirox 😂
Birb and buny uwoooghhh 😭
Rolling for both but Toki is my main squeeze. Hoping to go for Bunny Toki later too.
I know Toki got tons of fans, but speaking of usefulness I would say Nagisa Clearly wins over Toki. Nagisa due to utility works on all red bosses very well, while Toki only really on Urban Hiero. Not to mention on Gregorius Nagisa is FAR more useful than Toki would ever be. And this is concern as Gregorius is boss where most of students are useless and you need specific ones to do well.
any tips for gregorius? here's my explosive students i use in boss raids:
"striker"
saori
s.hoshino
koharu
atsuko
mutsuki
"support"
fuuka (normal)
---the rest i borrow NY fuuka
@@totoromingu2053 bad news for you - Saori and S.Hoshino are very bad on insane/torment because of incoming damage which is mystic,same goes for Atsuko. You need heavy armor students and AoE red special students like Saya , Maid Yuzu , Minori , S.Miyu -those 3 come later and 2 even for free.
Sadly Greg is huge P2W as you kinda need future students from Rabbits summer event and Shanhaijing one to do well on insane/torment difficulty.
Surprisingly enough Saya looks like solid pick from units we have already easily farmable. Koharu from your list is also essential from what I have seen.
@@Mario-kf3ej dont worry, im newbie in this game around 3 months and usually i do normal, hard or very hard , there are much to i need learn in this game
@@totoromingu2053 As someone who's only played since last November & only reached max level recently, yeah I'd say not to worry too much. From my experience, most raids seem to be pretty easy to clear up to Hardcore (Having around Lv.60-70 students with T5-T6 equipments should make it easy) and once you've started minmaxing students (Lv.70-80 students, T7 equipments) Extreme raids should be as easy as Hardcore. Torment seems like an entirely different difficulty by itself, and looks to be only for enthusiast, that even players who pay a lot can't clear them unless they're being really accurate in the rotations & whatnot.
Honestly, I'm happy enough if I can clear insane raids consistently, and for that to happen I need more versatility in my piercing & mystic student lineups. I'd like to have Toki, but since I likely won't do torment for a long time I'll skip her for upcoming must-have piercing & mystic students instead.
For Gregorius, it applies debuff on your striker students which is the reason why you want Nagisa & Minori for it since they can't be debuffed, being off-fielders (not sure if you can exchange them with other off-fielder attackers). You also want to only apply the right amount of debuff on it since too little or too much will apparently kill you. In a sense, it has certain requirements similar to Goz (which needs a student with focus assault) where if you don't bring the right students, clearing it is impossible on higher difficulties.
That said, I'm expecting it's rather easily doable up to Hardcore like all the other raids, and the strict student requirements would probably start only on Hardcore & so on.
@@totoromingu2053
For Greg, I will suggest you to farm heavily the Maid Yuzu event as she is a very good AOE backline welfare students that some people use her over Minori. Keep in mind that while S.Hoshino is usable, you basically have to have all the pieces to make that happen (i.e., UE40+ Aru, UE30+ Koharu, Himari and Ako) on Insane. Don't bother with any other S.Hoshino comp as the raid is extremely hostile towards the frontline units
If you don't want to pull students only for Greg raid (which I would put Nagisa > S.Saki > Mina >= S.Miyako in order of importance), then my advice is to just stick to extreme. Using both Maid Yuzu and S.Miyu is sufficient for clearing extreme in reasonable time if you can borrow S.Saki. And both of those backline are welfare students. For reference, on JP a fast extreme clear (which involves the aforementioned Aru comp) is enough to plat. So it is not like you need to do insane to plat
I am pulling for Nagisa just for her interaction with Mika
Man, i think ill try and pull exclusively on Nagisas banner and pray that i get Nagisa like that and then spark Toki. Better yet i just pull them both early on so i can save my pyro for someone else like S.Hanako. here's hoping lol
Funny i was thinking the opposite lol
Is it necessary to get toki? is it worth getting stars for Nagisa?, I've been playing blue archive for a while
Nah, Toki can usually be replaced by other Red DPS students or simply be borrowed if needed.
Stars for Nagisa would affect her own damage and healing mostly while leaving her Def debuff and Crit Dmg buffs unaffected, so its worth is going to depend on your team surviving or dying with her healing. Of course, this is only for the harder content, because if not, there will be strong students in the future to save for.
@@cheekywombat9208ok thanks for help
Hey just some feedback. Would it be possible to timestamp and to include a summary at the beginning the viability to early-mid and endgame players and whether to invest now or later. Just asking
pulling Toki
simple reason
She has GUNDAM-i mean armored assault exoskeleton!
All i heard was "Get Toki and max her ass up"
I managed to get Toki thanks to pity. Now i can finally say
STANDBY FOR TITANFALL
To be clear: both this banner you shouldn't skip...if you pull only one off them you might regret not have other one..for anyone who had 24k you safe but for someone who not is just depends on you luck😊
want to pull on this banner, but if i do so i will lose my guarrented NY.Musuki+Kayoko
I'm in the same situation and at the moment I need a good Blue AOE like NYMutsuki way more than another Red Damage dealer
Meh, I disagree. They're both must have vs torment hiero and new raid but not necessary for anything else.
NyKayoko though, now she's a must pull
@@sen5466 and to be real here, most of us are still in hardcore & extreme, and fewer that can clear insane raids consistently. Honestly torment is out of reach for the most of us here.
In which case, I feel it's better to cover the areas that you lack instead. In my case, I could use a lot more versatility in my piercing & mystic students so I'd skip on Toki since my pyrox is limited unfortunately.
nah, just save for ny kayoko 🫡 that's a must pull for me
Talking about meta only, Nagi is a key character in Gregorius, Toki is just an option and it's not the best for any raid, so worth way more pull in Nagisa if you're trying platinum in future, way more better.
I might actually skip both of them cuz I really, reaaaally want to get New Year Mutsuki, Aru and Kayoko. If I pull for either Toki or/and Nagisa, I will definitely not have enough Pyrox later on... It might hurt in the long run but I'm also not a competitive player either, so I guess I can allow myself to choose waifu over meta this one time.
OMG i pulled TOKI on my first pull WHICH WAS A FREE 10X im buzzing. hopefully i dont have to go the distance to get nagisa
I will pull for Toki bcs of her peace sign 😊, also she was the one who got me into this game, so why not
Im skipping toki/nagisa for koyuki no one can stop me
Thank God I'm extreme enjoyer no need to worry about not having certain character
I absolutely want both but I will pull on mecha first bc mecha and pray to arona that she may have mercy so I can redeem the other 💙. Ty for giving it to us straight o7.
I guess i'll wait for the next anniversary , Nagi sounds nishe but i already got a pretty good explosive team . Good luck to anyone pulling.
(Edit) I abide by my first choice , i got tempted by everyone here and calculate how good her value was (limited+use), and everybody opinion + that 10 free ticket and got her in 30 pulls. I must say i was wrong at first, shes more than worth for bosses and stages. I still got 18k gems tho for the future anniversary or banners KeK.
(I send the same massage in comments)
I mean, if you plan to get Nagisa and Toki, waiting for the next anniversary won't give you them. They are limited students
Highly recommended to see through a list of students joining us before S.Hanako arrive, it's really not that soon, Mika was just a month ago(
Having a realistic plan on who to pull is a privilege for Global players, as we know half a year schedule ahead of us, and we know how valuable new students are, thanks for players on JP figuring it out already, we also can see how students will do in the future (like for example Nagisa is great for Gregorius)
So yeah, pull wisely and for who you like ofc, not to regret it later. Have a nice day
I’d personally pull for nagisa as she has that debuff added on to her skill which is vital for gregarious. While that raid is clearly P2W focused since you’ll need lots of debuff students like Mina, S.Saki, SMiyako, and minori for the massive DPS effectiveness in that raid alone I still think Nagisa is good to pull for.
Nagisa is not that niche as you think. Very good for any high def red raid due to EX def down, also good for Kaiten Torment since she can break the shield, pretty much strong for Greg raid. I would get her if I have to choose one of them.
I abide by my first choice , i got tempted by everyone here and calculate how good her value was (limited+use), and everybody opinion + that 10 free ticket and got her in 30 pulls. I must say i was wrong at first. But i still got 18k gems for the future anniversary or banners KeK.
A question, who should i prioritize to build first as a new player, i started BA just 2 weeks ago and I managed to pull both of them, I don't know who to invest into first.
build both tbh since you're a new player nagi stays at back and clears trash mobs and toki stays in front line
@@lobster_on_internet I plan on building both but who should i 5 Star first? since my resources is y'know limited
@@mythos5276 Nagisa is worth raising to 5 stars because of her defence debuff and area damage, whereas raising Toki to 5 stars depends. If you have another explosive attacker better than her (which I highly doubt) then there's no need to raise her to 5 stars.
@@mythos5276 To be honest, a 2-week-old player should level up every 3 star. Don't worry about the "5 star" stuff; by the time you'll actually need to level up your units to 5 stars, you'll have a pretty good grasp of this game and characters, and who knows, you might even manage to pull better characters than these two.
@@lobster_on_internet Aight thanks for the tip chief
As a Maid lover, ive been wanting more maids and when Toki was released i HAD to have her and thank the goddess i got her in like 1 multi. Peace! Peace!
Hello, I'm a new player and would like to ask, if I've gotten Toki within 50 pulls, since the recruitment points don't carry over, should I continue pulling?
Would I face any challenges in going through the story if I don't pull anything? And are there any characters that newer players must pull for?
Yes, keep pulling and try to get both
Pitying Sakurako robbed all my savings, before the limited banners began. I was able to get Toki in 90 pulls, but sadly I won't have enough for Nagisa
thank god I got both of them in 91 pulls. thanks free tix
With the new year banners coming in 1 month, would you still recommend pulling for these 2? Im a new player hence im unsure of which students are a must pull
If you're unsure, you can ask about people is opinion on Discord. I'm not a competitive player though, so I don't have any suggestion. But, what I can say is that, if there's anyone you need more than others, go for that student. Well, if you already planned which students you want to get.
Luckily I got Toki after 205 Pulls and so I was able to choose Nagisa for Pity.
Aside from that I got another Copy of Shun (okay I guess), Wakamo Summer and Miyako twice (Shun and the two Miyakos were in one 10 Roll).
My reasons for pulling Toki = Real cool kickass mechsuit
I already have Hibiki, so I really don't need another exolosive area damage dealer. However, toki sounds amazing but i really want to save my gems for the banner after this.
Even in Japan, some people skipped Nagisa because Hibiki was there, but they later regretted it.
Toki is a fun character to use, but she rarely appears in actual battles. In contrast, Nagisa became top tier and Hibiki's value dropped.
The conclusion in Japan is that Nagisa cannot be replaced by Hibiki.
As someone who plays the Japanese version, I recommend getting both if possible, but if you can only choose one, I'd recommend Nagisa.
is there any reason to pull for Nagisa if you already have Hibiki?
I guess defense down debuff
Nagisa is far more accurate
If she's not your Waifu, Decrease defense for Greg or maybe Raid BETA Red binah... that's the only reason.
I'm pulling for the Mika Nagisa interaction
Hibiki skill accuracy will make you malding in Greg raid.
Bro, nexon is really trying to milk us real bad
Hmm... Can you pls tell us the next event, banner and limited banner until hanako swimsuit limited banner? I worried that i wasted so much pyroxene on next limited student banner 😅
watch me skip Toki for Nagi, aaand later slightly regretting not pulling for her
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A better Toki will come out in the bunny and maid update
Literally my dumbass a few days later because I let the intrusive thoughts win and tries to roll for Ui
@@LimitPro1nah this toki is better than bunny
@@josepheisly6122 from what was said about people using this Toki she is rarely used often especially on Gregorius.
Pulling for toki wafui priorities. Still want nagisa to so spark one to buy other.
Me preparing to dodge the Glock at 6:34 :
*My Disappointment is Immeasurable and My Day is Ruined*
I have around 12k rn, there's no other option except skipping them, i really want NY Kayoko and i don't trust my luck.
your situation is the same as mine! imma skip this one too though Nagisa really got that waifu materials for me 😭
Sad i missed toki. If reruns happen it would probably next year or something 😭
I’m pulling both I refuse to miss either one. Wallet shall be opened if necessary.
Summon on toki, hope I get her, and then spark nagaisa
saved enough hope i get both just within spark
they also haven't been available even in the summer hanako banner on jp
wondering when they'll be available again should one miss out on this banner 🤔
I just want to pull Toki for her G11. This german weapon is just a masterpeice to look at. Bonus point for the battle suit.
Nagisa is must pull for me especially when her va is saori hayami ma fav va.
And toki also a must coz toki.
Mika Daily Dose of Cake Rolls
As a waifu over meta player, I shall be skipping these banners. Still watching the videos, thanks for the info.
Pull for both, no excuses.
And Mika has a special icon being healed.
Gonna focus on Toki because she is Yui Ishikawa char that's not the main character in gacha game.
I can pull 1 and spark the other one but who need to be 5* immediatly between them?
If you won't have enough to spark for NYKayoko and won't be doing torment raid anytime soon, you should skip this banner.
Finally Toki and she's really freaking good
I think if you're not gonna do Torment difficulty and have a robust roster then you don't need either of them. Besides, they can become regulars by the next year (if BA will live that long). Maybe?
Personally I have around 40k pyro and will be rolling Nagisa banner in hopes of getting her and then snatch Toki guaranteed, as I prefer Toki character over Nagisa, but Toki is not as must have as Hikari or Ui.
What happened to the other video?
Yeah... I'm gonna fill another spot of that tea table, that isn't even a option to me, but I will stop at 1 copy since reisa will show up a little after that.
I didn't get shot at the end wtf
Finally Toki is here!
TOKI IS GUNDAM AND NAGISA IS YOR FORGER AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
I only have enough to spark 1 of em, so let's just pray that I get either one of em before spark :'D
I'm a simple man. I see student piloting an exo suit with laser beam. I pull
Oh boy im ready to use my pyro for toki only (50k pyro) and even prepare all the necessary items to build her
Yo wtf i just finished watching rs rainstorm video and this got into my recommendation
I am definitely pulling for Toki. If i get her at least once, i am sparking for Nagisa. That is my only option with the 24k Pyros I have.
That’s my plan as well
Thx for the video!
Nagisa and Toki OR Kayoko New year?
NY.Kayoko + NY.Haruka, maybe add in NY Mutsuki and NY Aru if you get really lucky
2 limited banners that are core for torment then 1 "skippable banner", then another 2 limited banners that are both spark worthy + limited reruns of core blue raid strikers...
This game is fucking brutal on pyroxenes, it's not even funny.
Okay you convinced me if i dont get Nagisa i blame you
Got her after six single pulls, very cool 👍
I'm new, so pulling for both because my current students aren't good enough for clearing common stages.
But can we save enough for 4 characters in NY banner?
I just have 24k and i just started playing game 1 month ago
I have SNonomi and she's at 40/120 4* , and toki kind of do the same thing so I'm considering skipping, I'd have liked to have Nagisa tho. But with 5k and 60 momotalks I don't think I can reach even halfway to spark.
good luck, try to get both in 200 pull, don't forget we can upgrade star with eligma
also Toki is kind of good to the new pvp season which will come out soon to global
Who is stronger, Hina or Toki?
With S.Hoshino present and their Ex skill reduced
If nornal hina, toki is probably stronger for everything esp bosses. If S.hina they might be similar except toki is better for heiro
It’s gonna hurt trying to get them BOTH… fortunately Mika only cost me 10 pulls.
I'm a sucker for Mech suits, gonna pull for Toki haha
Toki ive been waiting for this its time to waste my walley
You guys should pull Nagisa
I'll deal with Toki myself
This has the same energy as Jing Yuan's "You guys deal with the flowers, I'll go for the body" line from HSR lol
Most likely pulling for both since Nagisa's va is Hayami Saori & Toki's va is Ishikawa Yui.
Plus I want to clear Gregorius insane since I'll also pull both summer SRT too.
Arghhh probably skip for NY banner :)
Rolling for both. I have 400 pulls worth of pyro and not afraid to use them. The last 8-7 month of saving is meant for this day and Mika. I'll worry about New Year banner after that.
i got enough to pity toki....here we fucking go!