Understanding the Basics of Indian Raga Music

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    Sameer Sayani, a student in MUS470 class, performs an Indian rāga on his sitar and talks about the structure of the melody, basic scales, importance of improvisation, constructing phrases with simple notes, and the lack of major harmony. The MUS470 course (Harmonic Experience: Metaphysics and Music) explores philosophic, theoretical, mathematical, and cosmological foundations of music. See the class blog at blogs.emory.edu/harmonicexperi...

Komentáře • 169

  • @DannyBrownDesign
    @DannyBrownDesign Před 8 lety +74

    Why's everyone getting on this dude's case? This is a great way of "introducing" the world to an ancient instrument.
    Your doing great mate - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

    • @gauravsimha
      @gauravsimha Před 8 lety +1

      I don't know by what parameter you call the sitar 'ancient'. Could you perhaps clarify on the same ?

    • @shivabreathes
      @shivabreathes Před 5 lety +3

      Great point except the sitar is not an “ancient” instrument although Raga music certainly has ancient origins.
      The sitar in its current form is probably not more than a hundred years old.

    • @clemalford9768
      @clemalford9768 Před 3 lety

      The Sitar is not ancient, especially in its current form.

    • @JonathanJustus
      @JonathanJustus Před 3 lety

      Sitar found in probably invented in 13th Century by Aamir Khusrau. He re-christened the Veena to Sitar. Tabla also invented by him.

    • @clemalford9768
      @clemalford9768 Před 3 lety +2

      @@JonathanJustus There was an instrument called the Tritantri Veena in India before the Persian Setar was introduced. Do you have reference sources to the evidence of Amir Khusrau and the Setar? It is popularly claimed that he is responsible for the Sitar but to my knowledge, there is no evidence. Where does it record Amir Khushrau inventing Tabla? Some say it is a modification of Midngram other musicologists say it was introduced from the Middle East.

  • @ssayani87
    @ssayani87 Před 12 lety +28

    Thank you all for your wonderful comments :-) I haven't checked the comment section on this video in quite a while but I'm glad you all are still looking and posting your thoughts. And to those of you who feel that my playing is not quite up to par and that I have a long way to go... I agree. Albeit, I feel that I have come a VERY long way since this video was shot, in retrospect, I should've put in some more practice time before having this video made. Nonetheless, thank you all once again!

    • @scruffysean3640
      @scruffysean3640 Před 4 lety +1

      Sameer ji, it was wonderful. Thank you for sharing for gifts.

    • @qkbarbland4332
      @qkbarbland4332 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BigBandWolf If you want to learn sitar, then the only way is to find a guru. But if you want to learn _about_ the sitar, or Indian music in general, CZcams is the way lol, binge concerts, look up short performances get to know about the basic terms in Indian music so you can understand the complexity of a musical piece. Anuja Kamat's CZcams channel is a great way to get to know the basics in short videos which will help you understand a performance. If you want to hear musical pieces, TheDarbarFestival is a very good channel with a variety of performances from various styles of Indian classical.
      Just so you know, what you heard here is the North Indian Hindustani style of Indian classical, there is another one of the south called the Carnatic, and the Carnatic equivalent of the sitar would be the Veena. It is also considered to be the parent of the Sitar. Jayanthi Kumaresh is a fantastic Vainika (veena player) and has her own channel on youtube where she teaches you about a lot of the same basic concepts as Anuja Kamat but on an instrument rather than vocally. She also elaborates on various ragas and their uniqueness.
      Also yes, that is a drone in the background which is synthesized on the electric "shruti" box. Hope you found this useful!
      this is a link to what a raga is: czcams.com/video/CBtFt3HUkT0/video.html

  • @jorgeeduardo.pineda
    @jorgeeduardo.pineda Před 10 lety +18

    Guys! in words of Guthie Govan "Music can´t be view as a competition thing, it´s not an olimpics thing where you have to beat the other guy! If you have to beat anything it's you a week ago or year ago, you haver to be better than that..." ...it´s not my favorite explanation of Raga I 'd seen on youtube, but still interesting.

  • @babyzbreath
    @babyzbreath Před 9 lety +51

    Highest level of praise will be nothing here, it is that much higher level of job. What I liked the most:
    1. Learned Sitar
    2. Spreading knowledge
    3. Preserving culture
    What else is needed.

    • @AdamStJamesStJames
      @AdamStJamesStJames Před 8 lety +1

      +Hugh Jones agreed. I knew nothing at all of raagas a year ago. I heard raag shree played by Niladri Kumar on you tube this past June, and I began to research it. The more I learned and understood, the less interested I became in pop and western music... and I live in America. There is something so special and cosmic in this music.

    • @keshavio2192
      @keshavio2192 Před 5 lety

      beautiful

  • @RevJoshua
    @RevJoshua Před 10 lety +15

    That class is so blissed-out.

  • @orolekamikazi326
    @orolekamikazi326 Před 4 lety +2

    Amazing tones and melodies in the piece you played.

  • @andydutton652
    @andydutton652 Před 4 lety +1

    I think this gentleman did a great job explaining everything. He was very thorough. Overall great job Sameer.

  • @fourthblock
    @fourthblock Před 8 lety +10

    thank you so much sameer sayani. appreciate it very much. you are a great teacher. got my head around a lot of questions i had...

  • @coyoteheadcollective
    @coyoteheadcollective Před 11 lety +4

    This is a great lesson for pretty much any instrument at all on how to construct an interesting and dynamic improvisational solo; start simple and then slowly unfold the melody.

  • @natedavies6634
    @natedavies6634 Před 6 lety +2

    This is a good video to understand the basic concept of the raag and I felt the student did a sufficient job explaining the music.

  • @vp4744
    @vp4744 Před 7 lety +2

    Great for expsoing different musical styles. Thanks for posting the video.

  • @IpCrackle
    @IpCrackle Před 11 lety

    He teaches VERY very well!

  • @kermheat
    @kermheat Před 10 lety +3

    good introduction to India Raga Music.

  • @66serendip
    @66serendip Před 11 lety +1

    ... thanks for posting. Nice and clear instruction. Helped clarify some concepts for me, was also need to see how the hands count out the time. Has given me some good ideas.

  • @daronzio
    @daronzio Před 13 lety

    Amazing. Thank you very much for sharing.

  • @joytihowe1005
    @joytihowe1005 Před rokem

    So beautifully explained. ❤

  • @marcusjones7082
    @marcusjones7082 Před 20 dny

    Teaching is a great way of learning! Thanks for sharing!

  • @stealth258
    @stealth258 Před 12 lety +1

    Kya baat Ustadji!

  • @akumar7366
    @akumar7366 Před 5 lety

    Very nice a beautiful sound.

  • @DarkAndMartyr
    @DarkAndMartyr Před 13 lety

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @TheHechtTube
    @TheHechtTube Před 11 lety +6

    thank you... it's pretty hard to learn anything about indian music when you live far away... I' m pretty sure ppl may have a point when they criticize, as they live in the land of the masters, but I have to say it's been the best lesson I've had so far about indian music and the sitar playing... and your teaching could reach me in brazil... thank you...

    • @ichigokun10
      @ichigokun10 Před 2 lety

      Oi amigo eu sei que se passaram 8 a os desde esse comentário
      Também estou tentando aprender música Indiana, sabe onde posso encontrar bons conteúdos para aprender um raga?

    • @preetvats4761
      @preetvats4761 Před 2 lety

      @@ichigokun10 well search anuja kamath. Hope your doubts will be solved.

  • @jvn4940
    @jvn4940 Před 3 měsíci

    That was very useful -- thanks for sharing!

  • @CatMclean
    @CatMclean Před 11 lety +2

    Now I need to get a sitar! I love it:-) Thanks for the post!

  • @TheJanakulkarni
    @TheJanakulkarni Před 3 lety

    Simply amazing

  • @computerfile
    @computerfile Před 5 měsíci

    That was wonderful.

  • @llamonrall
    @llamonrall Před 12 lety

    GENIAL! , ESTE CURSO TIENE TODO LO QUE ME ENCANTA , NO SABIA QUE EXISTIA !!!

  • @Hellnation13
    @Hellnation13 Před rokem

    Wow that is so impressive

  • @MatthewHillUK
    @MatthewHillUK Před 13 lety +1

    Really interesting, for a complete beginner this was a great intro.

  • @pilaraguirre9692
    @pilaraguirre9692 Před 9 měsíci

    Just AMAZING ❤👋👋👋

  • @RikthDcruze
    @RikthDcruze Před 8 lety

    awesome!!!

  • @12347771
    @12347771 Před 12 lety +3

    Like the dream catchers on his top peg. But refrain from touching your feet and then the instrument.

  • @MasterGamer15
    @MasterGamer15 Před 13 lety

    God this music is so.....soothing...

  • @yourdeadmother
    @yourdeadmother Před 11 lety

    its the tiny little box next to him, its called a shruthi box, look it up. u can easily find electronic versions of it that produce the same sound on your laptop!

  • @filmcrew1551
    @filmcrew1551 Před 11 lety

    What brand electric Tanpura is that?

  • @tobyray7426
    @tobyray7426 Před 7 lety

    Thank you :-)

  • @bobrm5402
    @bobrm5402 Před 9 lety +2

    Understanding the Basics of Indian Raga Music

  • @rababplayer
    @rababplayer Před 12 lety +1

    A great intro to Hindustani music. I play the Afghan Rabab and the same theory applies.

  • @leskop
    @leskop Před 11 lety +1

    I studied many ragas in my youth, and had a gig at an indian restaurant playing them, on a guitar, in sitar tuning (youtube sitar guitar) and I feel like in a way this is a philosophical discussion on music theory, and not focused enough on the ragas themselves. I digress, I'm a critic, I was hoping for an approach more akin to a dissection of the nitty gritty of the scales, time signatures, and "non-diatonic" notes that I personally feel define ragas.
    Great video nonetheless, be well!

  • @ssayani87
    @ssayani87 Před 12 lety +1

    @afghanforlife by all means, much much appreciated!

  • @nickschor
    @nickschor Před 12 lety

    Finishing up a stressful day at work, and I swear my blood pressure just dropped about 6 points! Am I hearing an tanpura in the background or are the sympathetic strings just droning? Either way, thank you for the lesson...and the soothing music.

  • @RomyIlano
    @RomyIlano Před 6 lety

    The lecturer is cool!!

  • @adhominemsis-t.australisensis

    @ssayani87
    the intonation on the meends could be more secure but I'm sure you know this and working on it. keep it up and best of luck!

  • @kidcaper007
    @kidcaper007 Před 12 lety

    if I could take this course, I would...

  • @bodichair
    @bodichair Před 12 lety

    How can i contact the sitar plaer in this viedo? Is the sitar your playing a Gandhar Panchamwho was the maker. Are you happy with this style of sitar, It sounds great!
    bodiji

  • @wholegreaterthansum
    @wholegreaterthansum Před 12 lety

    to you as well

  • @aadithyamadhu9548
    @aadithyamadhu9548 Před 7 měsíci

    bro where are you '

  • @sajjadasif
    @sajjadasif Před 11 lety +3

    hey Sameer Sayani, hey man you are really good in explaining this whole stuff with clarity. wish to get connected to you and learn more of the basics of indian raga music. please let me know if i can connect to you via emails. sajjad

  • @truthsharing9862
    @truthsharing9862 Před 4 lety +1

    Soundsgreat ,great teacher, what's the name of instrument is that you are using? Very ancient.

  • @argonwheatbelly637
    @argonwheatbelly637 Před 5 lety

    c, C, Ut, Do is mostly the same frequency for a particular A440, et al. However, Sa is whatever is comfortable. ;-)

  • @wenchilow8834
    @wenchilow8834 Před 4 lety +2

    And that was 10 years ago

  • @megaluisdeth
    @megaluisdeth Před 12 lety

    How about Jeff Loomis or Jason Becker?

  • @kchandrakant50
    @kchandrakant50 Před 6 lety +3

    This person is talking in true terminology of Indian classical Music. e.g. He has written Sa ,Re ,Ga, Ma & so on. While our people now a days talk in Western classical music terminology like " C minor" or something like that even while playing indian music.

    • @TheJanakulkarni
      @TheJanakulkarni Před 3 lety

      Yeah even I don't understand what is g sharp and c minor etc .

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess Před 12 lety

    @dkmkartha learnt?

  • @GrantPark
    @GrantPark Před 11 lety

    I tried some of these harmonics on violin...omaigod o3o sounds like nirvanaheavenrainbowkittens

  • @thomashicken1620
    @thomashicken1620 Před 9 lety +1

    very informative.

  • @adroac
    @adroac Před 11 lety

    Es el sonido de la tampura, es la guia del raga.

  • @Jaayaani03
    @Jaayaani03 Před 11 lety

    super explinations n play!!!

  • @KajanLakhan
    @KajanLakhan Před 5 lety

    Really good sound and music 🎶
    One question about 440 and 432, what are the Indian raga scales tuned as? I'm just curious

  • @MortFantome
    @MortFantome Před 12 lety

    what is the name of the instrument

  • @Koropokel
    @Koropokel Před 5 lety +2

    17:34

  • @richcohen5936
    @richcohen5936 Před 11 lety +3

    i agree with you & he's one of the teachers in Jamplay too. but it's absurd to compare him with vai...lol that's never happening!!
    now back to the topic, he can dominate any instrument with his own approach of music but he has to spend 50-60 years of his life understanding the carnatic or hindustani music itself which is totally vague & misrepresented in western media. once you know it you can understand how deep those raagas are. no offense to abasi's music.

  • @wholegreaterthansum
    @wholegreaterthansum Před 12 lety +1

    I agree, but if you didn't know anything about North Indian music, I think this would be a good introduction. There is no way you could really explain raga in 20 minutes.

  • @fudging81
    @fudging81 Před 10 lety +1

    I don't think the scales are the same (1.55). In Indian classical music there is the Kiravani raga which uses the scale: sa ri ga ma pa dha ni sa which is about equivalent to C D Eb F G Ab B c.
    This is what I just learnt. Can someone please verify this and not let either one of us go astray.

    • @PutItAway101
      @PutItAway101 Před 9 lety +1

      I think he's just saying that the scales in Indian music aren't that different to those in western music, and he plays a major scale on the sitar as an example. The scale you mention would be called the Harmonic Minor in western music. Yngwie Malmsteen made a career out of it. LOL.

    • @soumyajitsarkar5353
      @soumyajitsarkar5353 Před 8 lety +2

      I dont know a lot about music, but the notes in indian music can deviate sometimes from their original position. The original notes are obviously CDEFGABC. But specific ragas use specific set of notes ie special scales.
      Sa and pa never deviate. Re ga dha ni can get a little lower, called 'komal'(means soft) , ma can get a little higher, called 'tivra'(means sharp).
      In the specific raag u mentioned the ga and dha are komal. Everything else is original.
      In yaman, the raag that he is playing, ma is tivra. Everything else is normal.
      I hope this helps.

  • @tripmonk0
    @tripmonk0 Před 3 lety

    All very good but his chikari are not tuned !?!?

    • @tripmonk0
      @tripmonk0 Před 3 lety

      Surely it must put him off as he plays !!!

  • @WalkingHeadPro
    @WalkingHeadPro Před 6 měsíci

    would be nice if he touched upon the rules of the raag. Like how you have to abide by certain movements when traversing notes of the scale. This part confuses me

  • @tintunbirha
    @tintunbirha Před 4 lety

    Want to learn Sitar? Come to Benaras and learn from the pandits, and Ustads, or better still join one of the gharanas. Also to all Sitar learners, listen to the song .... Nainon me badra chaaye" film Mera Saya, and the initial sitar aalap etc that starts the song.

  • @MikeValderramaOficial
    @MikeValderramaOficial Před 11 lety

    Mucho habla!

  • @TGWTGCensored
    @TGWTGCensored Před 12 lety

    sitar

  • @meowtrox1234
    @meowtrox1234 Před 5 lety

    C sharp

  • @vasanthaiyengar273
    @vasanthaiyengar273 Před 26 dny

    A recently released book discusses this topic.
    It is "Carnatic and Western music- blending the two systems" by
    V.S. Narasimhan.
    Check youtube with the above name for contents and availability.

  • @MrWilliamSandoval
    @MrWilliamSandoval Před 11 lety

    why should he?

  • @blesseins4658
    @blesseins4658 Před 5 lety +1

    Nikeel ' still there ...!!! Le Son de cet instrument est divin ... Ravi acquiesce ...et moi aussi ...!!! Oh , Narayan ! .!!!...tu danses ! ....§§§

    • @blesseins4658
      @blesseins4658 Před 5 lety

      With a cup of Sita' , Krishna gets a glimpse from Parvati ...so Saraswati comes and vaporizes flavours as " Hrish'in the Distance "...!!!

  • @polescalante
    @polescalante Před 11 lety

    I truly agree with 1 thing here... Gatorade is not juice...

  • @chessmaster2000
    @chessmaster2000 Před 9 lety +4

    what is that background music/noise?

    • @professorx7232
      @professorx7232 Před 9 lety +1

      its a Tanpura

    • @billnelson9131
      @billnelson9131 Před 8 lety +2

      Tampura, providing the drone and later the tabla consisting of two drums, one high pitched on the root and one low, which can be varied somewhat by squeezing with the knees.

    • @michaelcopeland366
      @michaelcopeland366 Před 8 lety +1

      +Nathan Kessel Shruti box

    • @Rahul-lc5qr
      @Rahul-lc5qr Před 5 lety

      Tanpura , it's a bass instrument. Mostly used to fill the music

    • @harshitpokhriyal856
      @harshitpokhriyal856 Před 5 lety

      Its the key in which the raga is based

  • @thangle1946
    @thangle1946 Před 3 lety

    what are those fancy knobs?

  • @richcohen5936
    @richcohen5936 Před 11 lety +3

    it's not about feel or dexterity. indian classical music is vastly different from regular western music & theory. the gurus have spent their whole life figuring it out & mastering it. even this guy can't play most of them forget about abasi...i'm serious not even steve vai or satriani can play those alaps in this instrument. tosin is a kid to them i guess.

  • @MrRightThinker
    @MrRightThinker Před 5 lety +1

    Raag literally means a Colour !

  • @ArmandoFaust
    @ArmandoFaust Před 10 lety +1

    Is that an electric sitar?

  • @npalliyil1
    @npalliyil1 Před 11 lety

    I think you need more riyaz on the meends .

  • @simba1936
    @simba1936 Před 11 lety +1

    I'm glad that people in the West are recognising Hindustani classical music some of divine music.

  • @bfbg12011972
    @bfbg12011972 Před 11 lety

    Electronic tanpura.

  • @jkjk295
    @jkjk295 Před 11 lety

    boley jaa rahe hai.. speaking,, speaking....

  • @99ramg
    @99ramg Před rokem

    You made things more complicated Dude

  • @chamindaabeykoon2255
    @chamindaabeykoon2255 Před 7 lety

    Z

  • @chegeraut
    @chegeraut Před 11 lety

    Anoushka Shankar said this music is much less improvisational than jazz.
    The guy is wrong.

  • @mohithkumar9210
    @mohithkumar9210 Před 3 lety

    if this is what he calls basics!! then I should probably stop even thinking about being musician.

  • @chestermahogany2155
    @chestermahogany2155 Před 11 lety +1

    As incredible as Tosin is, this instrument is vastly different. It requires much more than being a theory powerhouse and impeccable finger dexterity.

  • @kakamaast2495
    @kakamaast2495 Před 11 lety +1

    Awsome but the topic of this Video is Understanding the Basics of Indian Raga Music .which i dont see. You should be explaining what Yaman is what the notations are and what is the accending and descending and the pakar and when is it played vbut thanks for at least trying....

  • @jayapalj2161
    @jayapalj2161 Před 10 lety +27

    Yes, I feel that this players skill level is far below the point at which he should be lecturing and demonstrating this music, especially with 82,000 views!! What a shame! I am not hearing the Yeman raag coming here at all, the Alap is lacking many important phrases which require more advanced Meend technique, as well as application of elements incorrectly. The importance of Ni in Yeman must be emphasized just as much as Ga. As well as the relative importance of the Pa-Re swar sangati. Meend is the heart of sitar and you must devote much more practice to its development and nuance. I am not saying that you are not a promising aspiring player, but maybe a bit too soon to be a representative/teacher of this art form...

    • @AdamStJamesStJames
      @AdamStJamesStJames Před 8 lety +15

      I think that while yes, he isn't the best... here in America it is good for people to be exposed to raagas. Any exposure that causes one to be interested will draw them in, and create a desire to learn more. He may not be the best, but he is creating interest in an American audience. This is a good thing.

    • @sthakar100
      @sthakar100 Před 7 lety +12

      Lets hear your version

    • @talulahsmischief
      @talulahsmischief Před 7 lety +13

      Speaking as a music teacher, the best teacher is not necessarily the person who is the most showy about displaying their peacock plumage. They don't even teach this at my university (or the previous one I studies at) in NZ. It's too 'hard'. I was turned away from learning the sitar as a child on the sole basis of being a girl. This kind of video is pure gold - there was a time when it would never have been made available publicly to 'foreigners' or non-Indians (of the appropriate caste), let alone women. Also there is a religious significance to each Raga and the dialogue occurring within it that is difficult to explain / convey and also grasp.

    • @heliopijpe
      @heliopijpe Před 6 lety +4

      I agree this wasn't the best Yaman BUT Who are you to judge? You don't know the reasoning behind his lecture? Perhaps it was an assignment. Perhaps the University got interested and was inquisitive about modal music. Sir, anyone is allowed to teach within his or her level of experience and skill. He wasn't representing his teacher, or his Gharana at a major Classical Hindustani music festival. I don't know where you get that notion from? It is quite obvious he was giving an informative basic lesson. Your attitude lacks empathy and your words are quite frankly demeaning and inappropriate. According to your logic only established and 'recognized' musicians should teach, lecture.. How about playing for fun? How about having the freedom to express yourself, for the sake and the love of music? I don't know who you are, but I'm sure your guruji (if you play at all) would disagree.

    • @rahuljha4629
      @rahuljha4629 Před 5 lety

      We cant show whole khowledge to beginers

  • @maciekkrzywda1269
    @maciekkrzywda1269 Před 3 lety

    santa claus is comin to town

  • @johnpro2847
    @johnpro2847 Před 4 lety

    I came here because it was a x-word word.

  • @clemalford
    @clemalford Před 10 lety +4

    He certainly has not been practising all those hours he talks about!! Raga Sangeet is a musical science. Not this mumbo jumbo.

  • @dkmkartha
    @dkmkartha Před 12 lety

    @oneforrestone Please find a musicians who plays or sings Indian music with the feeling of Raaga (Raga-bhaav) and learn from him or her by imitating him or her on your sitar phrase by phrase and be corrected by them. I learnt the bansuri that way from a singer after I had learnt the basics. Indian music can be learnt only in the direct way--listening and imitating and being corrected by the teacher on the spot and then slowly the Raga consciousness will rise. No short cuts.

  • @SteveStevens-sp7ly
    @SteveStevens-sp7ly Před 5 měsíci +1

    as a guitarist with 48 years playing just learning sitar, I know that you should not be teaching. you can play well enough but lack the skill and insight needed to help or encourage others. you also seem to be boosting your ego rather than trying to impart knowladge

  • @celovern
    @celovern Před 11 lety +1

    A little more riyaz and your playing will come alive a little bit more, more focus on expression and articulation on the left hand some of your notes were painfully flat as well

  • @borgtalentscout
    @borgtalentscout Před 10 lety

    western students wiLL have to teach the World, India's music. she is apathetic & lacks the Will.

  • @jkjk295
    @jkjk295 Před 11 lety +1

    theek se saaz milaao to pehle..? frst tune properly... playing later .....

    • @tibbarnogard8404
      @tibbarnogard8404 Před 3 lety

      I'm not 100% sure of the context, but I think he intentionally tuned to a western major scale in order to communicate more efficiently with the other students. It may technically be a distillation of the art, but I think it's useful in explaination. (To clarify I am a westerner who knows little of indian classical music, this is just an edicated geuss)

  • @GatoradeIsNotJuice
    @GatoradeIsNotJuice Před 12 lety

    more riyaz, then teach. you are saying correct things in the video but can't back them up with your playing yet.

  • @cids1599
    @cids1599 Před 5 lety

    You Know there is more then just a down stroke. Don't stroke it like a bango. This is too mechanized. It lacks the warmth, suttle smoothness...

  • @adhominemsis-t.australisensis

    intonation needs work...if you don't mind the critique