Dave Meltzer on Chris Benoit Murders
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- Dave Meltzer on The Chris Benoit Murders/Suicide
Wrestling Observer editor Dave Meltzer (WrestlingObserver.com - MMAFIghting.com) discusses Chris Beniots brutal killing of his young son and wife, why he may have done it and why WWE is now airing his matches again on their network programming.
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"What he did that weekend overshadow's anything he did in the ring" - Steve Austin
***** I'd really be assaulted than murdered but that's just me.
Anthony Church First of all, he did it ONCE, second he didn't MURDER her, unlike Benoit.
Well, neither of them could really fully overshadow the other. You can't really forget how amazing he was as a wrestler/performer but you can't forget what he ended up becoming at the end.
Hey it got Benoit slammy of the year so it was worth it
Keep ALL of the options open ,Steve Austin.I personality believe that they were murdered.
Dave always finds a way to mention Japan.
Always creaming over Kenta Douchoshi and Hiroshi Fagahashi
@@markwilliams7054 fitting... Coming from a WWE fan
Chris wrestled in Japan early in his career
@@markwilliams7054 both those wrestlers are GOAT ya fuckin simp.
The guy is in love with japan hahaha
That guy has some big ears.
So will you when you're 60.
Me Again What’s New Meltzer Magoo!
How else is he supposed to hear all the gossip he passes off as fact?
@John JACOBS 818 You can hear the earth turning with those ears Lol 😂
Looks like an uglier Meyer Lansky
just makes me appreciate what the guys do in the ring even more, it's a full time job with little to no time off, people have been crippled because of botches, handicapped, fucking mutilated almost, and even more painful is this case and several wrestlers that took their own lives before him. Concussion protocol is now enforced and you may hate when your favorite wrestler has to retire just remember what happened when Benoit didn't know when to quit.
Doctors described his brain as essentially “rotting”. I’d say that’s a pretty good answer as to what happened.
Nope. There’s “85 year old Alzheimer’s patients” that haven’t killed their 7 year old son.
It’s absurd to insinuate that a history of concussions explains the murder of one’s own son.
Yes, there’s football players who killed their wife and Steve Austin has a history of hitting his wife just like Benoit had, but those football players and Steve Austin both never killed their son.
Like, yes. Brain damage is nuanced, but never will I excuse a person killing their 7 year old child.
His crime spanned a weekend and brain damage doesn’t explain the murder of one’s own 7 year old child.
I know I’ve said that he was 7 a million times, but I think it’s a very important detail. That kid looked up to his father and had his action figure, poster, and even celebrated with him when he won the big gold belt.
A “rotting brain” doesn’t answer shit.
@@CavinLee
Amen.
@@CavinLeethen how would you explain motive ? What reason did he have to kill his whole family and himself ? If there’s no motive, there’s only one explanation, mental illness. I mean grow the hell up dude
@@terryalan4590 I don’t know the motive, because he killed himself.
Also let’s say it is mental illness, who fucked up his brain?
@@CavinLeeI think it’s not an answer, but brain damage certainly helps at least explain it- not excuse it
Still soo bizarre, I remember between the passing of Eddie and then that happening I just couldn't watch wrestling for 3 or 4 years.
damn bro ((
Chris was on so much sauce ... he was 260 lbs and superquick and powerful ...all of the impacts he took we amplified beyond what it would normaly be . That headbutt dive he did was brutal on him and he never blocked a chair shot . He took wrestling TOO SERIOUSLY . He went to damned far . He gave too much of himself to wrestling .
He was only 230 pounds max!
@@mehulrathod7739 right
@@pooddescrewch8718 you have mentioned he was 260 which is absolute inaccurate!
The problem with Benoit was that the one who examine benoits brain showed the brain tissue of benoits brain had lots of tissues in it like an 80 year old man compared to his age!
@@mehulrathod7739at like 5’8 that is really beefy
His autopsy report came back clean. No drugs or juice 🤷♂️
According to dave he was a top 5 wrestler in the world
Kurt Angle would agree Prince Vegeta
Nice to see Uncle Dave speak before he, like Benoit, lost his mind and went crazy.
smh at Benoit marks who believe the guy is a saint.
define ''saint''
use da brain and you'll figure it out
BOOM! Explosion
don't use that word Fella
and yup Da brain
chet michael mr chris was a murderer
Smh at people who think Benoit was always a monster.
Who posted that wiki post about Nancy?
Supposedly some kid which I don't buy the story
@@GraniteYeti Why? It was just a coincidence. He never said anything about Chris killing Nancy or Daniel dying, the internet had already knew something was going on with Benoit since he was missing at events, so the kid just started trolling on the Wiki page and said that his wife died, that's it.
@@roodypoochrisw thats a very weird coincidence. they should of looked further into the kid. they barely asked him questions he didnt even know where the info came from, i mean who would forget where they saw that after it became a big deal.
Batman Thuggin The police literally searched through the kids entire web history, that’s all the proof you need that he had no connection.
That is the biggest coincidence ever then IMO bc the post supposedly came from WWE HQs in Connecticut when the IP was traced. It blows my mind either way rather it is or isn’t.
Meltzer looks like someone photo-shopped four different peoples faces together and then put that face on a different body. He looks like some goon bouncer or a bar tender from an old gangster movie.
Davy boy Smith Jr mentioned there was domestic violence in the relationship so you never know what all is going on behind closed doors.
meltzer not doubting the official figure and number of casualties of this tragic and horrific incident....
Do dave meltzer have a CZcams channel too?
"He brutally killed himself in a way that nobody would brutally kill themselves". Maybe he didn't kill himself, how does anyone know someone else did not invade the home. They don't.
Jawanna Man were you there? Do you know what happened? No. No one does, so maybe he did get murdered we will never know. So you can’t call someone an idiot if you don’t know the truth yourself.
So why he googled a easy way to die as they say?
The niggas 260 pounds muscle. Who fucking with him outside of thevwwe?
@@Horvat04but he died a brutal death
Becuase we aren't stupid. Home invaders don't murder the wife on day one, and get the kid the next day and the husband the day after that.
If anybody can figure out what happened to Benoit it’s Hannibal
u gonna post all of the shoot
Yes it's posted now on our Patreon site patreon.com/TheHANNIBALTV and will be public on CZcams later this month.
You can tell Meltzer doesn't buy all of the details the police and others have given on this...but he doesn't want to come right out and say it.
It's in your head.
Something is definitely strange about that entire tragedy...... I'm no conspiracy theorist but things just don't add up. What you just mentioned plus Chris and his wife's cell phones have yet to be found...... 13 years later ??? Cell phones just don't grow legs and walk out of houses
@@dalehulen369 I think they strangest this I heard, was the wikipedia article.
@@dalehulen369 here the thing about all the media that says being Gay is genetic don't expect them to really say that Chris Benoit is innocent.
He found something maybe the fact that maybe Eddie was murdered and let's say he wanted to avenge him but ended up being killed and that's my imagination saying this though I don't know what happened so to me he is still framed and the storytelling is not right and they paid alot of money to look like as if it was a double murder suicide but infact it is a triple murder you see they are exposed to their lies and my reason us the text message why would Chris Benoit say his address to his friend who already know where he is and the phone never got recovered so as Meltzer their isn't a straight answer in this tragedy but sonce Vince Mcmahon he paid good money to let the conclusion looks like a double murder suicide but infact it is far more than this.
No. I'm not an idiot desperate to defend a murdering scumbag so I don't see the things you wish you saw.
Everybody seems to want to be a internet "armchair forensic pathologist" as to what happened to Benoit and his family. Unless you were there to witness it, you don't know what happened!
Well I've read what happened so I know. The information is public record.
Can someone please explain to me how exactly Benoit killed himself?
He used the cable from his weights on one of his systems to wrap around his neck, and then dropped the weights to hang himself.
But when they found out that he died the day before he and his wife and kid were allegedly killed
Joseph Davis It seems like he thought he deserved to die that way after what he just did.
chet michael It doesn't really have much relevance though. Benoit supposedly killed his family a day or two before he killed himself.
Swoll826 It's more shocking when according to the Sister of Nancy Benoit, Chris' Second Wife, she says that she looked at Chris' search history on his computer and she sees "easiest way to break a neck."
whats weird is when you see chavo explain he says the text came late from both his wife and chris about garage door being open and dogs out.
then you have Chris Benoit's cell phone is missing. The police cannot find his cell phone.
then when he called chavo he says I love you and some may think it was because he murdered them and was saying good bye or who knows someone was going to murder him and chris couldn't say anything or they would murder his son or wife and told him to say his goodbyes.
then you have what they said was he was hung on weights just like guy in video said how can you do that to yourself say what you want people who get dementia don't go around murdering people look at ali his brain was loose from multi punches to the face he didn't go out and do that.
the cops who investigated probably did a poor job
nobody will know truth people say he did it some people say its a cover up people say someone murdered them.
I still think its weird they couldnt find phones.
seems weird oh well it was years ago.
From Wikipedia
On Jericho's podcast, Nancy's sister Sandra Toffoloni clarified some details further. She said that over the weekend after the murders, the search history on Benoit's computer showed he had researched "the quickest and easiest way to break a neck". He had then later used a towel around his neck attached to the handle of the machine, which he pulled down using a very heavy weight and let go, breaking his neck instantly.
This refutes Meltzer's opinion that Chris suffered during his death.
I will agree, it weird if they didn't find his phone.
So Aaron hernandez means nothing to you?
People who have dementia lash out regularly, become violent, they don't recognize the person in front of them... there's more than enough logical reasoning that the state of his brain played a part in these deaths.
It's easy to make the claim that all people with dementia or brain trauma don't kill people. It's also easy to do a little Google search and find out that some do. I could argue that not everybody of sound mind and body kill people either, but some of them do.
The police found his cell phone. You are gullible.
Have you read the police report? They found both Chris and Nancy’s phones next to his body in the home gym
Dave could probably answer this I've always wondered since he was Pegasus Kid in Japan do they acknowledge him or do they just try to claim that Prince Devitt/Finn Balor was the 1st and 2nd.
Can you please get Kottomouth Kings on your show, icp, odd Squad Family
Benoit didn't strangle on that line.
The fact he knew the precise amount of weight to use in order to give himself a a near perfect hangman's fracture (severing the neck at the C2 vertibrae thus killing the brainstem) tells me that he looked up the scientific weight tables that are used when people are executed by hanging.
Armed with that knowledge he turned his weight machine into an upright jerker gallows of the sort that was used in a few places here in canada back in the 1920's and 30's as a replacement for the traditional long drop gallows.
He was braindead within seconds, it would've taken his body anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes to die though
We may never know what truly happened that night but all I hope is that Daniel was asleep when it happened
RIP LINDA MCMAHON BREAST
The interviewer actually literally sounds like Chris Benoit’s oldest son. Weird
Meltzer rated them 3 stars.
They kinda botched the ending.
Screw job was a set up controversy creates cash
Part of me still thinks of a conspiracy tbh but geez still hits me.
me too
i actually didn't believe the conspiracy thing until Bill Apter was on Jericho's podcast and mentioned something about it, anyone else i'd just kind of blow it off but Bill Apter is a really smart guy.
agreed Travis W
@@travisw3131 obviously not
Kevin Sullivan
Just two Canadians in Japan, well what ever, he's American
Why is the name Chris Benoit never mentioned anywhere? And the word wrestling is never used in World Wrestling Entertainment since. what he did is worse than awful but he’s no worse than any other murderer. They just made a damn Netflix series on a child n spouse murderer Chris Watts and publicized the shit out of it. Does Benoit just have the wrong last name?
"he’s no worse than any other murderer."
Oh yes he is, way worse.
how they died was an act of revenge.
dude couldve used a gun to end it quickly,someone wanted them to suffer
dude you are stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ........................
@@danielsexyboy3876 how?
A gun isn't any quicker than the way he died and far less reliable.
Its bullshit he was done in
Dude had sense to deal with Atlanta airport & traffic, but supposed to have had cte , go figure
Dave Meltzer still speaks like a 14 year old girl
Weights set and a steel wire to off himself? It was a fucking hit !
Facts…. How can you brutally kill your self
Looking back when I was watching WWE in 2002..whenever chris benoit was on I could sense there was a personality disorder somewhere just looking at the guy. Observing his behavior, the way he talked, his in ring aggression and yeah after thinking about it...I believe he did kill his wife and kid. There was definitely a darker side to benoit that people probably ignored and I know I did cause I was more enjoying WWE at the time and it was very good. Unfortunately with all the deaths stacking up or retiring it's totally different from what I remembered. Beniot was good but quiet...and a ticking time bomb at that. Just go back and look at observe him...you'll see what im talking about.
Lightening Angel no..... just no...... 😑😑😑😑
It did not occur to you that these guys put on a fake persona and go into character for these performances?? If you believe the character you saw in the ring was really who this guy was, then I question your mental status.
he was normal lol he had the crippler gimmick which was similar to Orton's but in interviews he was ok
Watch his interviews ,he seems cool
You didnt know that he was playing a charcter ?
Is it Japan? 5 STARS!!!!
They were supposed to tap out.
If you think that you are funny...no, you are not
god bless that hairline
Could anybody be frame like that? I think so !!
Listen guys
I might have found out what really happened that weekend
I was in my bed when I thought about this. Crazy I know. I don't know why either
But this is scary because this could very well have happened.
Have you guys heard about Chris Benoit taking different ways to get home? He thought someone was following him.
I think that Chris was in his sleep, dreaming about someone entering their house and try to kill them all. So Chris ends up choking Nancy to death in his sleep ( While dreaming ) He thought it was the guy in his dream, so when he woke up he realized he had killed Nancy.
Which led to he spent the rest of the night thinking to himself whether he should take his son's life or put himself in and have his son grow up knowing his father murdered his mom. Chris decided to kill Daniel because he didn't want Daniel to know what he did, also he didn't want to be in jail. After Daniel's death in the morning he spent a whole day thinking about killing himself. He though he could not live knowing he had killed his own familly. which he ended up killing himself in the weight room.
I believe him murdering Nancy was a mistake he was not aware of. he realized it when it was too late to save her.
Viktor E he bounded and gagged her while dreaming ? Hmm k lol
Ok, that's enough for a 9 year old mind
At least he let the dogs outside before he got his bible and pillow.
Mk ultra
I am a psychic medium and although i don't know but when it came up the first time i felt he was murdered and that is how i get my premonitions i get feelings followed by info to back it up but i only got the feeling he was murdered i did not see anything after that..maybe someday i will..
wow that is really weird because sometimes dreams are actually a visit from a spirit that has passed!
well i am not saying that is what happened but i have found that almost ANYTHING is possible believe me stranger things have happened..i talked to Miss Elizabeth and i loved that woman she was not mad about being gone but she knew it was a mistake being with Lugar!
i wish i could get something on Benoit but i have got nothing..i have not even been able to get Nancy!
I don't think Kevin had anything tyo do with it if anything i feel it had everything to do with drugs...
Braddy Earl did you see jinder mahal becoming world champion in 2017? probably not
HE SAID HIS FAMILY WOULD NOT WATCH RAW.....BECAUSE HE WAS GOING TO DO THE UNTHINKABLE....IT WAS PLANNED.....
Netflix presents
The Reopened Chris Benoit File
Or at least a horror movie roughly based around this story
Hit me up Netflix I got the story
Just saying 🤫
Really?I am sure it's a one sided view.Would still like to know the name of the the Netflix program.
Yeah your probably right.
I still think it would make a cool scary movie. Not directly about "The Crippler" himself but like I said loosely based on the information of that strange incident
Steven Ray Ellis honestly with all the biopics coming out they should do one on Chris, they could even focus it on his wresting and the movie ends with him walking into the house that night.
He didn't do it
daniel should of just tapped
Chris Benoit should have retired after Eddy's death. Get a regular job. Or be a WWE manager or GM for SDL. Benoit is in hell for 3 murders: himself, wife, and son. Pure evil Chris was. And he's burning forever. Sad. Fame and fortune is over rated anyways.
@Red Dogg - Rebel4Truth yea that's true
Damn, watching him stutter and stammer is cringy
Him stuttering and saying you know is 80% of the radio show. A person gets used to it after a while.
This is tbe guy that rates wrestling???
He 'd be better off shouting numbers in a bingo hall
Here is why Benoit should be in the hof:
He did what you did (if he did) beacause he loved the wwe and gave it all to it. He did not give a fuck about injuries or councusions (hope thats how you spell that). He wanted to entertain us. Thats all, and he paid the biggest prise ever for it. And we sitt here moaning and bitching about it?! I dont know what to call us for that.
ErtyHD It's not that he should be in the hall of fame or deserves to be in but rather he pretty much earned his place to be in regardless of what he did. However, it just can't happen. Not everyone will see it that way and it's for the best. It just wouldn't be right from a business perspective and from someone who were deeply affected by the tragedy. If Benoit knew what he did was wrong, I don't think he'd want to go in the HOF considering he did love the business a lot and he probably wouldn't want to cause more damage to it.
HE MURDERED HIS 7 YEAR OLD CHILD
Yes what a wonderful idea. We can ask the D.O.C. to release Charles Manson so Charles can induct him.
Give it a rest it's not going too happen no wrestler would induct him and most including his former best friends would not even show up to see it.
He wasn't even good enough to be in the Hall of Fame even if he hadn't murdered his family, which he did.
Where is this Benoit match that I’m missing where’s he’s this great wrestler? Every match I’ve seen with him has 1000 knife edge chops and 17 German suplexs ending in a submission hold that you can easily get out of...just don’t get it honestly
Better set off moves than bret hard to be honest crupper cross face best submission move flying head butt and those supplex were great in my opinion
Mr gay fox i suggest you watch his japan matches
Yeah. I never cared for him either. Angle made him obsolete. That entire school of pseudo technical wrestling was lame.
@@TheJordi748 The crossface isn't a real move. You can't submit anyone with that.
@@redrick8900crossface is a real submission, you have no way to refute this.
Before the murders I never cared for Benoit, even as a pro wrestler. He had less than zero charisma, no mic skills, and not a good look.
Max Frost seriously...literally one of the most skilled and intense greatest wrestlers in history
I remember the first time I saw Benoit was not long after he came to WWF at a pay per view event and I never liked him then and he never grew on me. You know how sometimes somebody plays a bad guy/heel but you can't help but like them, even actors who play bad guys but you like them anyway. With him is was the complete opposite, I can remember if he played heel or face but I didn't like the guy. Although I liked the crossface-crippler but now I always imagine him doing to his wife and kid :(
One of the worst wrestlers in WWE history
Lee Johnstone You Deserve A Crossface You John Cena/Daniel Bryan Fan You Kiss Both Of There Asses
He was the guy who threw 1000 knife edge chops and never really drew a dime