Cast vs Tubular Manifold | Which is Right For You?
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2019
- So you want a manifold but can't decide which one is right for you? Odds are you're looking to boost performance and add a nice look to your engine bay. Maybe your OEM manifold cracked, or just wasn't giving you the performance you want. Dan explains the pros and cons of cast vs tubular manifolds and helps determine what will be best for your build.
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What manifold would you choose and why?
I run a JMFabrications v band manifold, billet head flange, good quality, easy turbo changes, better gains and looks 🔥
Do you guys have any data on ceramic coated vs non-coated cast manifolds in terms of under hood temps etc ? I would think that by keeping more of that heat within the manifold, that the turbo would respond a bit earlier as well under ideal conditions ?
I would choose cast steel turbo manifold
@@petersutcliffe5208 so its been a year what do you still think bout jmfab?
@@danielleperez3516 it’s still spot on! Would 100% recommend one 👍🏼 I also run JMfabrications billet inlet manifold and the build quality is just as good
When someone admits the tubular manifold they make, will most likely not hold up long term. Bravo for the honesty.
Cast on my evo. Wasn't looking for peak performance or drag but for something that would withstand the test of time and the occasional lead foot
A great choice then! Thanks for watching!
I went with Cast and loving it. It’s stealthy and like you said I was able to retain the heat shield. Good for California 👍
How’s performance wise telling a difference ?
@@michaelechevarria13 can’t really tell if you’re on stock/ stock frame turbo
If my manifold cracked, will definitely go with a cast one to keep my firewall and sensors safe. I have just painted my manifold and it looked good.
I want a tubular, but i'm just worried about the car burning down so i'd probably stick with the investment cast and factory heatshield. Most power id want to push is 700wheel anyway and it seems to be able to accommodate that.
Im running the MAP cast and ported MHI 18K, zero regrets. 👍🏽
Good choice!
I always find the tubular manifolds make kind of a tinny noise when running which I don’t really like so I prefer the cast manifolds as they just seem more solid and sturdy.
Awesome looking sick
Got myself a cast exhaust manifold that is modular from Corksport Mazda Performance. So I can change flanges down the road if I ever decide to change turbos :)
I want to upgrade from the stock manifold to the cast manifold. My last SST trans service wiped me out, however I should be in the market by Black Friday!! C U soon..
Let us know when you're ready for that upgrade, we'll be here!
Hoping You great guys went with the tubular set up to get a torque and HP to help out with the Choice of horsepower and torque amount to cost. Also, Definitely buying one!!
I wish i went with a cast manifold / stock frame set up. I am currently running an EFR turbo / tubular manifold and have had my fair share of troubles. Between the manifold cracking + repair and my turbos oiling issues + repairs. I probably could have gotten a nice garrett GTX with the Investment cast manifold.
The same here. My JMF tubular manifold lasts about 2000 miles. I am tyred. I'm going to change to an stock frame set up (race cast manifold, GTX, external GW and 3" O2 pipe)
@@DAVINCIEVO I had the set up before. I was full bolt on in stock turbo making around 370whp. The cast manifold would have been the icing on the cake. I ended up selling my car because the oil issues got worse, my timing chain guides and tensioner went, the timing case was leaking bad and I was smoking like a mosquito fogger out the tailpipe. Gonna be careless for awhile but looking at the new Supra for the future
SOOOO Glad you made this video!!! I was very indecisive on what manifold I should get for my build when that time comes. (Hopefully soon). I'm on all bolt-on with a tune right now. I always wanted a tubular manifold mainly because it looks badass and they say the flow is better. However I didnt know that the cast manifold was as good as you say it is and I know it is very popular in our Evo X world. Now I feel I'm more indecisive than before BUT it's a good thing. I certainly dont want to lose low end torque! I love that but I definitely need more power up top. My stock turbo just runs out of pwr up there. I will upgrade both but tryin to minimize low end torque as much as possible
Thanks for watching! We are glad it helped. Give us a shout, we'd love to help you decide. 🤘
So what did you decide to go with?
@@jaymills85 investment manifold... been on the car with my new turbo for about 3 months. Its great!
@@icemanvf143 sweet mann how much power she making
@@jaymills85 FBO 415
I went stainless steel and the heat in the engine bay is insane. Had to remove abs brakes and radiator as factory wasnt cutting it. Having second thoughts now cos that heat is a worry but the look is sweet. On an SR20DET
Going w tubular
You won't regret it!
i have the map tubular and went back to stock cuz it sounds better
I wish you guys had manifolds for the SR20det engine :(
Only here cause I saw Dan in the thumbnail...
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Thanks for watching Sing!
Quick question. I've heard that tubular doesn't last as long as cast and is prone to cracking. Excuse my ignorance just reading reviews. Not sure if it's relevant. Related to desiel TD5 that pushed 700c temps
would the Cast manifold fit on Evo7/8/9?
Can you mount these to be top mount turbo or do they only go down?
what about tubular cast iron manifolds?
How much power can a cast manifold hold ?
Hi I have an evo x had power lost very low boost and no one can found out, do you guys have any idea???
Do I need a retune if i install the cast manifold?
How can i get one for my colt
I’m running with the Cast! And I’m hitting 680hp in my Evo!
That’s impressive what turbo?
Hey, recently bought and installed your wrx stage 1+ package loved it... but having a little bit of a problem who can I contact to try and troubleshoot??
Sorry for the late reply Sam, shoot us an email: sales@maperformance.com
Would Map be willing to rent one of their jigs temporarily?
I have a friend who unfortunately went with one of the cheap knock off tubular mani’s.
It would be so much easier to refit it with a jig.
The tube mani he purchased was from XS power. It didn’t have good reviews, either.
What are the whp gains of tubular vs cast one any comparison...in the top end. Same setup side by side .. any examples? Or rough estimates
Give us a shout, we'd love to put one of our Evo guys on it: sales@maperformance.com
Fingers crossed * I have stock ralliart turbo as well and I would love to know if this cast manifold would fit a stock ralliart single.scroll turbo?
Wondering if you ended up getting it and if it worked right thanks!
The square runners make sense because the ports are square
The tube ones look restrictive
Do you guys have cast manifold in stock ?
Not at this time.
These bolts on your cast keep backing out, how do i stop that from happening, and don’t say locktite
I have the same issue with my cast manifold
Make sure you torque them immediately after each heat cycle. I torque cold, start car idle it, torque again,. Once at operating temperature I'll torque again go for a drive and torque when I come back home and it's good. If you track the car and it's backing out you'll need either oem washers and nuts or nord lock washers and probably some wire to stop the nuts from backing out
Anyone know a good shop in Ohio for my evo x?? Central Ohio preferably
You said it fits the ralliart but does it fit the stock RA single scroll turbo that comes on the RA?
Fingers crossed * I have stock ralliart turbo as well and I would love to know if this cast manifold would fit a stock ralliart single.scroll turbo?
Did you ever find out?
@@depressedsauce2898 it doesn't. Look at arctec
Sent by Devin
I’ll pick tubes Everytime to stop metal bits from a cracked cast one flying into my turbo 😂😂
Do these require a tune as a standalone mod on stock turbo? I.e changing it on a higher mileage Evo x as a preventative maintenance move before OEM one cracks, etc.
Thanks !!
Hi! No tune is needed if everything else is stock! Many people install this as a maintenance item for the cracked OEM unit.
Hey MAPerformance i have a 2016 STI i want to get 400hp i went to KOZMIC (houston) to get more info but you guys don't have some of the parts that in looking for because i know you have fair prices and excellent parts is there any email or someone that i can contact and get me all the parts that i need or you guys can recommend me I really would like to buy from you guys instead getting ripped off from other places 😅.
Im STAGE 2 (MAPerformance Intake, MAPerformance Downpipe and MAPerformance stage 2, 93Octanes TUNE.
@@jeremiasperez1171 Give us a call at 1-888-627-3736 and we can help you out and get to that 400hp goal!
A high end tubular manifold will always make more power than cast/ported.
Didn't you guy's build a white RX7 with a 4g63? Car was stupid fast!!!!!!
We did! We still have it in the shop!
4:00, that cast manifold looks like aluminum.
Our Evo X Investment Cast Manifolds are made from ultra high quality 310 stainless steel. The one we used in this video is an old prototype, the manifolds we ship out are superior in every way to the example in this video.
You're price for the tubular is too much. You're not buying an exhaust system. Should be around 400 500 maximum..
The Person does not known price on the products. The Evo X Investment Cast Manifold is not 650.00. The price is listed at 999.99. Evo X Tubular Exhaust Manifold By MAPerformance is at 1,199.99. Know the products before posting the prices in the video. >:/
We have since raised the prices of those items, sorry for the confusion!
The video was released before your comment and prices are always fluctuating and changing.
Merica 😂