Was this Scotland's Greatest General? ...The Marquis of Montrose
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- Was The Marquis of Montrose was Scotland's greatest ever general? Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey, takes you to an Outlander film location to discuss the Battle of Tippermuir and the Year of Miracles in The War of the Three Kingdoms (English Civil War)
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Hell of a man, Montrose! Can't help but like the guy, his poetry, his grief at Charles's murder, the way he brazenly outfaced death..make a great movie!
He wasn't called the Great Montrose for nothing ! Proud of my heroic ancestor - a general, a poet, a hero - definitely Scotlands greatest general
We have a common ancestor
@@lukemillette3271 Family reunion. :) Guess he was my 12th great grandfather which is why I looked this up. That's pretty far back.
That's awesome I didn't know I had more family
@@lukemillette3271 I assigned my students to construct a small family tree as an introduction to reasoning about social networks. Of course I did the assignment too, but went completely down a rabbit hole.
Lol that is awesome, what do you teach
Thanks again, from a Graham. Sending love from Canada 🇨🇦
Where I live there is the Gordon stone where The Marquis of Montrose won the battle but lost his best general who died defending him when he was pulled from his horse. You can see the musket and cannon marks on the bridge to this day.
We must be telepathetic...This historical character is one of my favourites. Great video. It also so happens its next on my reading list. A great man, loyal to a fault betrayed by those to whom he gave immense service to.
also a Turncoat...
I am actually related to them! 😊
All hail the Graham’s! 🏴
Montrose toast " he either fears his fate to much, or his desserts are small, who will not put it to the touch to win or lose it all"
I think Montrose is my favourite historical character, he is like someone out of a Greek myth. His personal bravery and honour l believe make him stand head and shoulders above men of his time and for that matter most times. The way he behaved when he faced his execution silenced his haters. Thanks for making this video and l really look forward to more about him. Respect !!!
When you want an early hero who never seems to get mentioned you would not have to look further than Andrew Murray.
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours Well done, l did not see that.
My Ancestor was named James Graham too. But he ended up in Tennessee in the late 1700s.
My great grandmother was a Graham. In Kentucky.
I was brought up in Kilsyth.The battlefield is under Banton Loch now but you can still imagine the highlanders charging down the hills surrounding the Loch.
"Fancy meeting you here, do ya want ta change sides"....."Auch orright"....have to love your historical perspective and analysys, if only all wars were so informally friendly and cordial.
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Held my breath with this one. Delighted the Irish didn't let them down. Very well told!
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Oh I just love the addition of the troop maneuver indicators Bruce. That's really helpful and great viewing.
That "Highland Charge" seem exactly like the Jacobite tactic at Culloden - but with better result on better terrain. Thanks for a fine tale!
That's the point. It WAS the same tactic. It's just that this was the first time it was deployed in Scotland
Montrose has been my hero ever since I picked up a Nigel Tranter on the great Marquis from a jumble sale just outside Ayr.
Quite agree ,Max Hastings has written a great book about the Marquis of Montrose ....The Kings Champion....E
Thank you for these fantastic videos! I found out who this great man was through genealogy research, and I have been fascinated ever since. Scottish history is interesting to say the least. I look forward to your future uploads!
I like Scotish history and I find the accent charming. I think I'm in the right place.
Definitely
@@ScotlandHistoryTours do a video of Simon Fraser Lord Lovat who helped the jacobite uprising and the last man to be beheaded in UK he died laughing his head off.
Hi Bruce - thank you for doing these video's of the history of Scotland . My mother who is 83 is so grateful for these little films as she can't visit Scotland and you take her on journeys all around Scotland , telling true tales about its past :)
This video is an overdue acknowledgement of genius. Montrose was a master of the war of maneuver. It is unfortunate that he has never received the renown outside of Scotland that his mastery deserves. The Year of Miracles is much better movie material than any of Hollywood's recent attempts to interpret Scottish history. John F. Kennedy was rumored to be reading Buchan's "The Marquis of Montrose" around the time of his death. I wonder if JFK realized what a great idea it was to infiltrate a small force into a hostile country, recruit, train and lead a (more or less) indigenous army against a constituted government or occupying power? Someone should specialize in that type of thing.
One of history's more creative military tacticians. Some of the stuff he pulled off was just...off the wall.
Just found you and subscribed ! yaay! glad I did! Well done very informative.😉
Welcome aboard!
“These fannies don’t know what they’re doin”.........Lucy Worsley could learn a phrase or two from our Bruce.
I'm here to lead trends
I've always had a soft spot for Montrose!
Would that be when he was murdering women and children covenanters or when he was a covenanter
im autistic and I watch your videos when in down they help me so much love from northumbria aka northern england
Wow Owen. I'm so happy that I might help in some small way. That brings a tear to my eye
As I walk my collie along Old Gallows Road I always thought the site was up by West Lambarkine Farm near Broxden . Thank you for this historical truth update Bruce . As a Robertson also it is great to hear there part onto the journey to Tippermuir . The drone shot looking east is terrific to explain the battle . Is that a churchyard in Methven ?
i came to your page for scotish history, didnt think id find history on my ancestors. thanks!!
20 plus years ago, on a Burnsian tour of Edinburgh , we visited St Giles. Amongst our party were several men very learned in Scots history. After some very interesting observances of the stained glasses, one said "let's visit The Montrose". We entered the room (I'm sure there is a better word in cathedral speak) and it is breathtaking. One of our party, who had been head of history at my high school started to speak about the Marquis and his achievements. Also present was a party of American tourists who hung on his every word, particularly when Tom announced that West Point still taught the tactics and strategies of Montrose to that day. I will never forget the moment enhanced by the fresh white rose on the tomb. My first comment as a patreon of Bruce, I will try to keep them shorter going forward !! Great work big man!
Guid lad
thx for the details you shared, I'm Scottish \Netherlands mix Australian! Have worked in London, travelled overland around Europe, Middle east & Israel, spent many holidays in Asia and New Zealand..... but not Scotland ..xx
Excellent work as usual
Behind every historical hero there was a unsung hero that gave them there fame , De Moray was Wallace’s , James Douglas was Bruce’s , and Alister McOlla Was Montrose’s !
Fair point
Yes he was without doubt the greatest fighting general Scotland has produced.He was also a brilliant poet ..He was recognised and awarded by many other European nations for his fine generalship. Died a hero's death.
A must read is from the famed Scottish authour NIGEL TRANTER his two excellent biographies on this honorable gentleman life and ultimate death are truly memorable and touching.
Fine work again Bruce..ggtthb.
John Buchan's biography "Montrose", a gift from my Mother on my ninth birthday, was responsible for my life-long interest in James Graham and the Wars of the Three Kingdoms.
As you would expect, both Tranter's novels, "The Young Montrose" and "Montrose: The Captain General" are extremely well done, and bring mid-17th century Scotland to life.
The Kings Champion is worth a look ,by Max Hastings....
I am related to James Graham and im trying to learn more about him thank you for the great vid
Glad it was helpful!
I'm clan Graham, and I really like your series.
He is my 9th Great Grandfather! Just learned about my relationship with him today!!!
Brilliant mate. Great story
Would love to hear your take on the attack on Inverlochy Castle ... going over Ben Nevis in February, the 36 hour march. Fascinating stuff. The battle is still taught at Sandhurst!
Infantry vs Infantry, Cannon & Cavalry that is very very impressive !
"Fancy meeting you here! Do ya want ta change sides?"
"Auch ooright."
ROFL!! Beautiful summation. Succinct, to the point, and conveyed the heart of the conversation. Brilliant!
I am always reminded of master Yodas answer to the term "Great warrior" .War does not make anyone great. How true, there is never a good side and a bad side, just different opinions usually only seperated by several degrees of perspctive , at the most.
WW1&2 definitely had a bad side.
@@thepinkflamingostrikesagai7319 who was the bad side in WW1? It was a war of imperialism, not humanitarianism.
WWII had a bad side and a more bad side.
Seriously look up some of the allied bombing campaigns, Dresden, firebombing of Tokyo, let alone the nuclear bombs. Horrific.
Another Scottish general who's worth looking at is sir John Moore durring the Napoleonic peninsular campaign where he saved the British army from obliteration at the cost of his own life.
He went to my school.
He’s got his own pub on Argyle Street, Glasgow lol
Quality video. Well researched and really clearly explained
Mr. Fummey; You keep hitting them out of the park! A difficult topic to make clear in a short video. Well Done! Sincerely
My Clan Chief. Let down by the crown in the end. I read the biography of him years ago and a tawdry affair was his end. There was supposed to have been a fight between the Haddens and the Davidson to see who was the superior Sept in the Graham clan out on the beaches beside Dundee. Would you know where I could look to find out the history of this wee skirmish. I think it was around the 17th to 18th century.
Brother,your videos rock. You've got a way of bringing the weirdness of history to life. There are a lot of great stories from the borders that we'd love to hear you do.
I plan to get down there in summer. Travel is always a constraint. In the meantime you have these
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours Awsome! Ballads of Kinmont Willie and Wee Jock Ellot are clasics. Kinda funny too.
Many thanks for sharing this with us, my ancestors O,Cahans served in O,Cahan, s regiment of foot ,in the present day my great uncle Henry O,Cahan served with the Royal Ulster Rifles on the river Imjin in Korea and survived being a POW and made it back to Ireland, my uncle Archie was a Mc Donald of Glencoe
Best wishes from the wirral...E
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Alexander Leslie, David Leslie, John Hepburn, to name a few. The Irish were decedents Scottish galloglass, Antrim scots (just Gaelic one's)
O ,Cahan, s regiment of foot ,my ancestors , still warriors to the present day, A great uncle Henry O,Cahan/ O Kane served with the Royal Ulster Rifles on the river Imjin in Korea against the Chinese, survived being a POW and made it back to Ireland....E
We dug back the history of my family. Find it all so fascinating. Ne Oublie. Both my brother and me got the coat of arm tattoo'd onto us.
The battle graphics were very good and understandable. Thank you.
Marvelous and eye-opening as always, sir! Keep this up, and yourself will be one of Scotland's leading tourist attractions.
😂😂😂 Is that a reference to my girth😜
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I wouldn't have the guts to waist you time woth that.
Question, though; how about one about James V? The one with the secret identity? There is precious little about him compared to the other Stewarts; he is usually presented as a footnote to his daughter.
Talking about Scottish military history, I just finished reading about the battle of Brunanburh in 937. when an alliance of Scots, Dublin Vikings and Men of Strathclyde were defeated by king Athelstan of England.
Oooft, that was a bad yin right enough
@@ScotlandHistoryTours They clearly just wurnae up for it.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours have you a video on this battle?
You have to admire Athelstan abilities with that battle. Force marched his troops so that they turned up earlier than expected. Split his forces so that the other side could not re-enforce those he was attacking. And then attacked at dawn routing both armies.
@@bigblue6917 The first King of Britain was quite a character...
When doing ancestry work I have found articles of my ancestors on montrose side. I would love to see a video on “clan Hay” from you Bruce. Your story telling is 1 of a kind.
This was brilliant.I read "The King's Peace" and the King's War." Both described the dispositions of troops and skrmishes and strategy. As an American with MacRae ancestry, I knew the song "Bonnie Dundee" and that our clan was Royalist.
Wih a grandpa who could recite Scott at the drop pf a tam, the IDEA of chivalrous knightly behavior was known to me. However, among those ancestors was a Revolutonary soldier who fought against the British.
If you were to see the Hudson Valley in New York you would be as astounded as I was when visiting Scotland for the first time. The open fieldsand concentrated hatred and chessboard skill in this battle, compared with a Revolutionary soldier with his musket, powder horn and ramrod hidden in the thick woods.
😂At first I read cheeseboard skill of a battle
Another solid video, Bruce! And, I appreciate your nuggets of worldview as you delve deep into the treasure-trove of history!
Hi Bruce! I believe 3RD MARQUIS SIR JAMES GRAHAM OF AIRTH AND MONTROSE was my 10th great grandfather. How can I learn more?? Thank you for your fun videos!! 😊
Well you skimmed over it, Bruce, but Yes. Montrose did it in the face of adversity and with comparatively few resources. Do another one on him.
Jesus! How much can I fit in to ten minutes?
@@ScotlandHistoryTours But you missed out the best bit. Where he chased Campbell into the sea!
We haven't got to that bit yet
Bruce definitely make the case for Montrose
Doing my bit for the algorithm
I like your style Marcus
Most excellent. Keep up the good work! Not very familiar with what was going on in Scotland during the English Civil War. Always a good morning when I can learn some history with my coffee and pipe.
Daily Mail Sir?😂😂
Mr. Fummey, I should also add that I have greatly enjoyed your CZcams videos. I find them educational and funny. I think that you found your calling, The Storyteller. I have never met a funny financial planner! Good Luck in the future. I shall continue to enjoy videos. Patrick Gordon, Mexico
😂Thank you Paatric
Anothet great presentation and the aerial view of the battlefield was a very nice touch.
The Irish Brigade likely picked up the use of the salvo ( Swedish salvee) from their service on the Continent.
PS There's a scurrilous rumour that they had a number of men from Englandshire in one of their companies as English Recusants also fought for the Spanish and Imperialist armies.
Sir John Graham 3rd Earl of Montrose born in Castlestead Castle, Montrose, Angusshire, Scotland, his wife Lady Jean Lillies Drummond, Countess of Montrose. Drummond Castle, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom are my 12th grandparents. My family up until my 3rd great grandmother are Drummonds.
The bit between 1:33 to 1:43 had me in stitches. Subscribed! (To be clear, subscribed to this channel, not that waste of trees you spoke about.)
😂 No that's no worth a subscription
I really love the vid. I have a left field question! You are in an old church grave yard, but there are new headstones? I would like to learn about this place too and it's grave yard. So much history!!! Oh so little time Eh?
The church stopped being used in my lifetime and folk can still be buried there. The Building itself was where they filmed the witch trial in Outlander
Fantastic video! I have a copy of his portrait in my man cave. Far too untold of a story
Quite agree,sir
Nobody will probably read this, but gosh tapping on the thumbs up takes an actual second and helps Bruce out as well as giving incentive to make more videos.
Bruce how do you do this without living in bitterness and anger.
I have to believe that people could have lived with PTSD all of their lives, just with the potential for violence every day, how did they do it? How do you do it? Could this anger I live with be inherent? Is it possible to inherit anger and outrage?
I read this, though I'll be honest I didn't 100% understand it😂
Love your channel man. Interesting from start to finish.✌
@Scotland History Tours I've listened to The Battlefield Band since 1985 and always wondered about their song "Montrose". So when you make the case that the greatest military general, I believe you!!! :)
More great balanced history. Great Stuff again from Bruce. Did we Scots ever need an excuse to fight each other! Lot's of Scots in the 30 years war.. Drummond and Leslie come to mind.
Indeed
Mr. Fummey, I have a story for you, Who was Scotland's Greatest General? Try General/ Admiral Patrick Gordon and his very interesting story including Scotland, Europe and Peter the Great's Russia. you'll find the story at the University of Abdeen. Thank you, Patrick Gordon, Mexico
He's been called the greatest General Scotland never had.
Really enjoy the stories thanks this was a good one
Thanks for listening
Clan Graham has a reputation for brilliant military leaders. Earl of Montrose who ultimately succeeded is one. And how could we forget the bonnie Lord of Dundee? Come to think of it, they're both known for "switching sides" too 😂😂😂
You may call John Graham of Claverhouse as “Bonnie Dundee”, but just as many, if not more, would call him “Bluidy Clavers’ he was a vicious policeman who employed Irish mercenaries to hunt down his own Scottish countrymen and murder them in the name of his religious persecution and died defending an illegal cause and regime. He shot men in front of their pregnant wives and infant children, he hung women on posts for the tide to come in and drown them. He was thankfully killed in battle at Killiecrankie as a fugitive offending the legal government of Scotland. There is a long list of his crimes.
@@David-ho6mu was he Presbyterian or Roman Catholic?
My great great grandmother was a descendant of his. She was a very strong strong woman and very stubborn
First ever use in mainland Scotland of the Highland charge? What about the Battle of Gasclune (often called the Raid on Angus) in 1395? This was, to my knowledge, the first ever record of a charge of the Highlanders. Look it up and you will see. Thanks. I enjoy your videos. Doug
Couldn't have been a highland change in those days. No guns
Hey Bruce why not do a video of the history of Stirling castle and the surrounding areas
That's not one video, that's a series😁
Great channel.
New subscriber.
Hello brv , do one on lock oich, and the well of the seven heads, your stuff is amazing , regards Richard London 🇬🇧
Great info as always Bruce
Was Montrose the guy who fought his last battle in kilsyth
Aye you just said it lol brilliant minds keep it going bud
Have a pic somewhere with a Montrose thing placed at the colizeum in kilsyth
Just Doon the road
Cheers brother 👌❤
I grew up in a place called Montrose, near Melbourne, Australia. Kilsyth is two miles down the road.
Yess Montrose my home town
Thank you
You're welcome
No mention of Alasdair maccolla Macdonald who led the Irish troops it's my understanding that it was actually him that invented the Highland charge !
It was his surname that made it personal against the Campbell's after what had happened to his father
Shutup
Your right , Montrose would have done very little without McOlla , just as Wallace would have done little without DeMoray and Bruce without The Black Douglas .
That's why I specifically chose my words to say first time the Highland charge was used in 'Scotland'
"The Devastator" brought his men from Ireland including his clansmen (Macdonald of Dunnyveg) (Macdonnels of Antrim) to kill Campbells no doubt and many other clans were happy to join that party.
I believe the greatest general in Scottish history was James Graham, but I'm biased because he was my 10th Great Grandfather 😊
Very well done!
I am a wee bit curious if you may be interested in doing a story of Cluny MacPherson of the '45?
thank you for some long lost family history ...NeOblie!
You stole my comment lol
Alexander Leslie or James Douglas were up there as generals also
"He either fears his fate to much or the desserts are not enough to put it all into the touch to win or loose it all"
You keep Goin Man
Another great one Bruce! Love the battle videos. Maybe one day one on the Battle of Harlaw, Northeast vs. the west ⚔.
😂😂😂As I read this I'm waiting for breakfast in the Aberdeen Altens Hotel on the way to making a video about Red Harlaw today
@@ScotlandHistoryTours No way 😆 lol well looking forward to the video as always Bruce! Cheers 🍻
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Good stuff, Maybe then Mortlach where Malcom The Destroyer won his first victory over the Danes, then up the road to Glenlivet where Gordon whipped Argyle plus plus plenty Whisky in upper Banffshire also illict still country
I'm related to this man I just found out about it so I'm going to do some more research on it
He was a character
Silly question is that the Montrose that John Hurt played in Rob Roy 🤔
No, THAT Montrose was the guy who was the nemesis of Rob Roy. If I remember rightly this was his great grandad
@@ScotlandHistoryTours ahhhh thanks again possible video in the future? 👀 smashing it with the videos as always SHT 🏴
Napoleon, before promoting his senior officers, would ask if they were lucky. Montrose was lucky and then some.
There you go
Perhaps Montrose's desperation, boldness, and mounting string of victories struck fear into opposing ranks.
Superior forces will rout even when there is a acceptable devastation within their ranks. A force with superior spirits will not.
Was it luck, or had he become the black penny, raising superstition within the opposing ranks ?
I remember reading about how the Brig`o` Dee was under manned, because most of the men that were charged with protecting the bridge & therefore the city, from the Marquis of Montrose & his army, (& this could be just a story) because they were at a funeral of one of the men, that was killed the day before! Montrose was said to have sent men further back up the river to find a shallow crossing in the water, then flank the guards. Aberdeen`s The Hardgate was a bloody place that day.
that's a hell of a way to pronounce Covenanters!
Rethorical rather than factually accurate, if that sentence doesn't explain every politicians statement, I don't what would, love it Bruce. Great subject well presented, love the knowledge slán abhaile from celbridge Co, Kildare.
Cheers Big H
The career of Glasgow born Sir John Moore may be another Scottish military man worth looking into.
I believe, the 26th Cameronians were originally recruited from Covenanters during the end of the 17th century.
Not sure, some folk I know would argue that it was Alister McOlla who was the brains behind Montrose. Honestly I am not well enough read to give an opinion, but I would say Alexander Leslie, 1st Early of Level could easily be argued as one of Scotland's greatest generals.
I've been wondering about this .. in Rob Roy they cast John Hurt as James Graham... Who doesn't even attempt a scotch accent in the film... His dialect sounds like RP or whatever the posh blokes use .. Am I off base here? Thanks in advance! You rock! Love the content!
It was a different guy
@@ScotlandHistoryTours thanks for the answer! Spiked my curiosity and off I went on a very satisfying deep dive. Good times. 🤘🧿
Have you covered the Battle of Philiphaugh, Bruce? It was terrible what happened to the Irish troops, and their wives, etc , after the battle...
This was the first in the Montrose series. Logical to start with Tippermuir, though a video will be required on his live overall as well to keep his fan club happy I think
love your videos
Love you man!