Cleopatra BOMBS Actress ATTACKS Fans & Gaslights Everyone!
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2023
- Queen Cleopatra is a new Netflix supposed documentary from producer Jada Pinkett Smith. The director Tina Gharavi previously wrote a variety article to defend Queen Cleopatra after Netflix faced a lawsuit in Egypt. But as an Egyptian Lawyer accuses Netflix and the Queen Cleopatra docu-drama of not respecting Egyptian culture, values or principles, are there other defences? Queen Cleopatra actress Adele James has now spoken about the shows reaction, and what the Egyptian people think, and it's not good. But with all of this now the Netflix show is out, is Queen Cleopatra worth watching?
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Netflix's Queen Cleopatra has reviews lower than I even thought possible. With a 1% on rotten tomatoes and only 1 single positive troll review on metacritic, the backlash for Queen Cleopatra is another level. The critics reviews themselves seem to be running scared with only 9 even daring to leave one for the show. It's difficult because they are supposed to be supporting both sides here, but clearly that cannot be the case. Instead of facing this contradiction, they hide and pretend the show doesn't exist.
Now previously we heard the director talk, but now even the main actress is coming out, although sounds suspiciously similar to the director. Which is weird when she is British. But as this does show that people see through Netflix's tactics, and the Egyptian Lawsuit against Netflix for Queen Cleopatra that people are standing up for themselves. You have to ask how long can Netflix keep this up, how long can they keep losing the money on these shows? Do you think we are approaching a turning point? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
The reviews are so low, it's silly to claim this is the "American perspective". Blame Hollywood if you want, blame Will Smith for being a cuck. Americans obviously didn't like it and agree with you.
Netflix supports blackwashgaslight. The only light that supports washworks.
As I said, Leftism isn’t just an American thing as the head actress shows. London is full of this shit as Sadiq Khan proves.
Fighting "colonialism" by being colonizers themselves. I see the irony here. They're having a "documentary about "everything's gonna be all white" but they're forgetting to look in the mirror.
They're taking the YT video "if hip-hop exist in 1700" very seriously or that's just how they do stuff. Even the comments agree to it.
They. Do find legitimacy in non African lore.
Update: Wait... did you just wear a "she hulk" merch? Why? Lmao
I think the reason there was not an audience rating on rotten tomatoes for awhile is it was not programmed to display a 0% it had to wait until the average reached 1% before it was able to display something.
It is a thought I found amusing if true. That they never expected anything to ever get a 0% that they never programmed it in.
She cries about people being racist... While she's being racist herself.
We all know black people cant be racist🤪🤪🤪
"can't be racist if your black".......sorry what? I did not catch that my stupid fell out...
And then have the nerve to accuse anyone pointing out the hypocrisy as being racist. When they don't have an argument and the facts fail to support their claim, they resort to dehumanizing pejoratives - they cry "racist."
shes saying people are racist while they are being racist to Egypt
@@kingpin7610 So humans are racist! I knew it.
She literally wasn’t even a black woman, she was Greek. It’s not a “the audience is racist” thing, it’s a “the audience knows more about world history than the cast and crew does” thing.
She was born three hundred years after Alexander invaded Kemet, how could you possibly rule out brown skin. This clown calling her a British actress lol. Using your logic she is African, the location of Egypt 😅
Absolutely you need to say adledgely, what you say is only your opinion. Adledgely The skin color of the publisher of this irrational criticism of Cleopatra being dark skinned is white washing history as usual adledgely. You cannot change the color of Adam,Eve,Jesus, & all original Eyptians through a 1950's movie during Jim Crow days allegedly. I am Glad Jada wrote it. Now I can see that America has a problem with Darker 🧬 DNA. Absolutely uncalled for Adledgely. ☮️😀🧬❤️Out.
Don't you know? Everyone who doesn't agree is istophobic.
It's more a "we want to co opt famous things as black instead of telling actual African stories"
Adledgely how do you know? Was you actually there? Adledgely no. Cleopatra adledgely was not a Godly virtuous thinking woman, adledgely beautiful and smart 🤓 . Therefore, Greek or something else.........let it go. Adledgely Ethiopians, Hebrews, Black Moore s,etc. .. always go back to darker cultures. Nothing personal just facts. For example:. King Tut, etc .................😀☮️💯😊❤️
They aren't portraying it as 're-imagining', they are portraying it as true history.
My biggest gripe is it calls itself a documentary, but dramatizes everything, and plays to the creators emotions of how they wanted Cleopatra to be rather than who she actually was as a real person. I heard the word "I feel" or "I believe" way too much from those so called "experts". They really shouldn't have called it a documentary.
exactly if they wanted to do a history drama based on real people but not really with how things that happened do something like the great instead THIS IS A DOCUMENTARY
Live action remake lmao
So what are you saying here?
Asterix and Obelix is more historically accurate than this
@@realdragon More fun too.
Saying Cleopatra was a black woman is like calling Jada Pinkett Smith a loving wife.
Or a decent person
Or saying she has hair.
@@moondawwg that’s mean… but really funny
(Appears I need to explain that I agreed with what was said, there are many things that can be said about her, mostly true but all very funny.
My comment was meant in sense f humor or 😂😂😂😂🙄😂🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂😂😂🙄😊😊😊😊🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@moondawwg based
@@Astrogator1 she deserves whatever she gets.
To help you understand why we- Egyptians- are upset, imagine a national geographic documentary that says: "my grandmother used to say: I don't care what they teach you in school, the earth is flat", then attacks geologists and Astronomers when they object.
Very good.
And we Greeks will learn that the stories about Cleopatra were just lies. This terrifies me.
Hey we European descendants can completely relate. They've said that the Irish were originally black, too! Not to mention they've said THEY colorized America and we're the one who have 'stolen' their land. Even if it was true, which is most certainly is not, no one _steals_ land. The only right anyone ever has to land is in their ability to defend it. Like every other organism, anywhere and for all time.
Okay, I've gotta say it! BRAVO!!! 👍
The earth is flat…….
What’s even worse is the US is becoming engrossed with people like this and even my coworker who just watches tik tok all day comes up to me and goes “did you know that THIS is what REALLY happened!?”
A sad reality we live in
Yes, it MUST be true because it was shown on TikTok! 🙄
@nitomosquito3164 what's your point here
@@TwoBassedenough with people talking crap about Tiktok
@@nitomosquito3164you are just saying that cause you like complaining
Thank you for speaking the truth! I’m American and im so happy to hear someone speaking the truth about the utter backwards insanity that has been going on in my country. I feel like the world has been turned inside out and warped to a bizarre dimension where nothing makes sense anymore
What is outrageous is that many in the black community get so angry over "cultural appropriation", and yet have no problems appropriating other cultures to suit their own purpose.
Because they know their culture is horrible.
Lol these creatures are hyp0crit3$.......
I ignore them, it’s really easy
They're a bunch of sissy, cowardly, brainwashed little babies who can't grow a pair. That's what the American black community is and has been for decades.
Boom! My white liberal niece dropped the "cultural appropriation" bomb on us last christmas. I kept my mouth shut until I got in her car and she cranked up the hip-hop. I said "thats cultural appropriation. Hip-hop was made as a way for inner city black kids to express their frustration with living in ghettos. It wasnt made for affluent suburban white kids. I mean if you are cool with cultural appropriation keep listening...."
She turned it off.
Imagine being an Egyptian, just minding your own business, worrying about the economy, then suddenly you find some rich entitled Americans claiming you're an invader in your own country and that they're the righteous owners of your culture!
Beyond insulting is what it is, I have never been so angry in my life!
You are a descendant if an immigrant. Learn your european and arab history of migration and stop trying to white wash black history.
@ahmedsejini2401 Some afroc*_entrist climbed over our artifecates and claimed he is a true Egyptian and ended up being escorted out. He shouldve been in jail for climbing over the walls of a temple
Amen to that.
White liberal progressive women wouldn't survive 2 minutes in Egypt.
I detest them.
And I'm white.
@Ahmed Sejini no actually they did come to Egypt and tried to harass Egyptians and other white tourists. The outrage coming from us was expected after all things that have been going on in the last few years those people (Afrocentrists) are really mad and racist…
I don't blame you they are beyond stupid and crazy at this point , they are abusers
As an American I am ashamed that this is an accurate description of our ideology. I want everyone to know we don’t all share these views lol 😂
Like 0.2% of the country believe those types of views 😢😢
Saying Cleopatra is black is like saying Jada Pinkett Smith isn’t bald.
The trailer : "I don't care what you were taught in school, Cleopatra was black !"
Later : "It's a reimagined version of Cleopatra"
We are reaching levels of hypocrisy that should not be possible.
A Brave New 1984, where we rewrite history to make (a few of) ourselves happy.
Reimagined? No longer a documentary? Sorry but too late. They called it a documentary and that is what they will have to live with.
Exactly a black African woman and the King was a black African male. These demons twist everything. They know the truth but rather live in a lie.
Look through history this happens in every authoritarian color revolution because the people just allow it until they're cattle
You're so stupid Christopher Cleopatra was not black.
I remember my grandma telling me “I don’t care what they tell you in school, cleopatra was Mexican” and that’s all the proof I need ☺️
She united the people by opening a Jill’s Breakfast Tacos franchise in Cairo.
@@andreshernandez1180 I heard she invented Pozole and Menudo, and also harvested the first avocados 🥑
Albert Einstein was black African from Rhodesia 🌚 but they don't teach that in government schools
Mexican? MEXICAN!?
SHE WAS PUERTO RICAN YOU ******************!
I'm kidding, obviously.
@@KaguroDraven lmao. You don’t have you say you’re kidding btw! I understand it’s a joke
It’s amazing how selective they are about how they feel about misinformation.
"why cant i just attack you and you just shut up"... What an accurate account of the days we're living!!!
Uh what are you saying here?
As an Egyptian I want to thank everyone who is supporting us againest Afrocentric movement, we are not going to forget your support guys ❤❤
Seems likeAfrocentrism.vs.
Pan Africanism!!!
As a Black American, I want to thank all of the Black scholars who contributed to the brilliant documentary about Black Cleopatra VII and her life's journey..
Scholars lol
🎉 will always Support you
@@etruscancivilizationracist
As an Egyptian, I agree with every single word you said. What's really irritating that they have the audacity to call this show a "documentary " and then the nerve to call us "racists" because we refuse to accept this cultural appropriation.
What's more frustrating , that Jada Smith had the actual opportunity to make a real documentary on African black queens if she'd just invested more in research. She simply took the easy way out.
Elizabeth II might be next, i wonder if they dare insult her majesty
Hate to say it, but welcome to the club. These people have been appropriating "white" culture (really a bunch of different European cultures) for a while now. They have this weird double standard where they want their own culture segregated to where only they can use it, be inspired by it, etc. but think that everyone else's culture should be open to them to claim as their own. Props to the Egyptians for taking a stand against it. The "western" nations are too PC to take a stand for our history like that.
Jada's next project replacing the Queen from the Crown with herself as a reimagining.
Maybe the Iranian director would like to see a documentary about Cyrus the Great casting a bleached blond slav and calling that fact?
now you're seeing what we have to deal with in America. These people are insufferable.
I love how she calls this a documentary (which is supposed to be as close to historical fact as possible) and yet she’s so wrong because this is actually fiction, that she’s pissed off Egypt it’s self to the point that they want to sue her over her lies. And she attacks them too calling it “self loathing”. The ego and narcissism on display by her is hilarious. She’s digging her own grave every time she talks.😂😂😂
This show is the physical embodiment of those guys asking Americans in the street "name 3 countries in Africa" And Americans, with a confused look on their face exclaim " wait, I thought Africa IS a country" Well done Jada for bringing awareness to this very American problem.
Americans really do suck at geography. some think that central America is in Texas lol
"Black washing isn't a thing."??
Have they seen the casting of movies and shows lately?
Pretty much the point of 0:49, am I right ? 🤣
Anne Boleyn would like a word
Black Arielle...
Instead of giving a fairy tale from the African continent a chance, they simply took the white fairy tale and slapped a black actress into it.
Where are the African stories, legends, fairy tales... ?
@@c.krueger9530: "Where are the African stories, legends, fairy tales... ?"
Woke SJWeirdos: "That's cultural appropriation! REEE!!!"
Gingers anyone?
Blackwashing IS a thing. It's so much a "thing" it became a meme regarding Netflix adaptations.
it just can't be a thing. Because that would be racist and they just have no ability to be racist don't you know. only have others be racist to them. (please take note of the nearly lethal levels of sarcasm in this statement that to many not only believe but will actually tell you a serious version of.)
They made a documentary about it called The Thing
Black African people reclaiming the truth of their identity, heritage & history. Its GOD ordained!
@@ctruth6185 my god told me it's not. Do you have a receipt?
@@ctruth6185 Lying, thieving propagandists. Eat shit, the lot of you. Keep lying and trying to appropriate what's not yours and you might just end up crushed under a very big boot.🤡🖕
"When does ignorance become malevolence?" Well phrased.
I spent a year in Cairo. The Egyptians were very defensive about being called African. It's not always about geography. It's about culture. Netflix needs to change this from a "Documentary" to a "Fiction".
"Blackwashing isn't a thing"
- Netflix Anne Boleyn enters the chat.
It's DEFINITELY a thing.
It seems that the BBC is the worst offender of colorizing history. Yet this English guy forgot that. He can criticize the US all he wants, but at least we go to the dentist. Also how is London doing with all those black and brown people? Violent crime, sex trafficking etc.
@@winstonsyme5899I'm quite sure he is aware.
Ariel, queen charlotte, tinkerbell…. Enter the chat
@@plspriska Still waiting on the black live action film of Gepetto and Pinocchio.
1% audience rating is truly impressive. I'm astounded by the amount of talent it took to become so universally hated lmao
You mean utter lack of sanity and talent.
Not even master of disguise is that low. Turtle 🐢
The audience represents all the people that vote Deception-crat
I'm so proud of this community
People are SICK of black supremacists rewriting entire to include themselves. Black people are unhappy with their history compared to everyone elses and so they want burn history to the ground.
Egypt wasn't Black, Carthage wasn't Black, none of the Romans or Greeks were black, Celts nor Germanics were black, European Knights weren't black *except that one guy maybe*, Samurais were not black, Ninjas were not black.
Like it sucks that African tribes never recorded their history or stories for the most part, but don't take your anger out on us.
I grew up in America and from every black person I ever heard when you ever say Cleopatra they always say oh. She was a black woman and honestly I've never asked and even when they were told in school and was showing proof. Heck even if you probably make a exact clone of her from her DNA and showed her here in America and she exactly what she looks like. They probably still deny it, even if you probably took him into the past to show that probably still deny it again in our country right now in America or so. Freaking messed up in the head. It's kind of hard to believe anything that comes out any person's mouth in this country.
As a script writer it makes me laugh most that they're trying to say "we don't need to be 100% truthful in a documentary" like it's a new concept.
There's names for those genres.
Historical Fiction
Or
Mockumentary
“The professor wrote to me and told me Cleopatra is Greek. Why would that be a good thing for you, professor? You are EGYPTIAN!”
Jesus, this statement is SO telling about her motivation in all she does. She can’t imagine someone genuinely wanting to follow the truth wherever it leads simply for the sake of the principle of honesty, as well as the practical considerations. No, she can ONLY imagine arguing from self-interest, because that is how she operates. The most important consideration isn’t whether something is true, it’s how does it benefit Jada Pinkett-Smith.
Someday westerners will realize this all stems from a demographic with much higher rates of Sociopathy. Among many other things this demographic commits and behaviors.
Exactly 💯
I don't care how upset thieves & usurpers become. You have stolen black African heritage. GOD knows the truth and all of you are liars. The original Israelites were Black African, the Ancient Egyptians/Kemet were Black African! The Moors of Northern Africa were Black African and they invaded Spain, Greece, Italy and much of Europe. The Phoenicians, Thebans, Numidians & the Carthagenians were Black African too. Jesus Christ, Moses, Enoch, the Hebrews, the Queen of Sheba, Queen Candace and many others from the Bible were Black African! Yep, Afrocentrism's truth will never be erased from the planet. GOD will not allow the TRUTH to die! The TRUTH will never bend over and bow to a lie.
@@IntroducingMrLucci Sociopathy (ASPD - secondary psychopathy) might be a little extreme but Cluster B personality disorders seem to be becoming the norm in the younger population of the West and that is more scary than most people can even imagine.
The tribalism of African Americans is rancid and ubiquitous. They think if ridiculous, black-aggrandizing and white-vilifying historical revisionism worked so well on the American Anglo, why not everyone else?
The arrogance of those who never apologise is disgusting
They know they're a burden to the rest of the world, we should've been more ambitious than to babysit the weakest link
Nothing new.
" Mary Kom is a 2014 Indian Hindi-language biographical sports film based on the life of the eponymous boxer Mary Kom, "
Look up who Mary Kom is and look up who played Mary Kom.
Also look up " Most Racist Countries in the World "
@Cosmo Ray thank you for mentioning this athlete, Mangte Chungneijang/Mary Kom as she has gotten almost no real press, outside India, that I could see (went and read about her after reading your post).
Amazing dedication and talent to have been victorious so decisively in as many events as she has!
And yet...as you point out...the selected actress to portray Kom in a production has overtones of ethnic "re-imaging" as well.
Are Indians paying attention to what the movie production did regarding casting?
Where does this end??
@@pax3974 Ahhh I'm sure you'll GASLIGHT us and pretend you're not talking about black people Your dog whistling is old. It's your simple, in every meaning of the word, attempt to mask your deeply rooted hate and disdain for blacks. Feigning innocence, cries of racism toward black people being dead, reverse racism, railing about blacks not letting the past go, same rhetorical bs over and over and over and over. .Some of you people are the embodiment of the triad of darkness.Ugh
@@cosmoray9750 Exactly, Mary Kom, THAT doesn't enrage or even interest them because it doesn't promote their reverse racism agenda. YES America naturally made the top 10 of most racist.Some of them are so ensconced in their own inherent hate they think it's normal.I like when they spew their vitriol, it proves the rhetoric they regurgitate about reverse racism and racism toward blacks or other POC being in the past, is nothing more than narcissistic GASLIGHTING.
There's a difference between Angelina Jolie playing her in a fictionalized version of history, and straight up making Cleopatra black so she fits your worldview in a _documentary series._
That's a difference that Jada Plinkett-Smith conveniently ignores.
I think this was Jade's idea. After the whole Will slapping thing, she started appearing more and more in media for all the wrong reasons. I can imagine her being like "Doh I am a queen! Like cleopatra! Make me a serie of cleopatra and I should be her!"
The fact that Jada can’t differentiate a continent from a country makes complete sense considering she can’t differentiate her husband and her boyfriend.
Lol
🤣🤣🤣👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
She thinks just because she can bully Will that she can do the same to the rest of us.
classic!!! hahahah
Remember when Will Smith had street cred?
Me neither 😂
She has so twisted reality to suit and excuse her behavior that she thinks she can gaslight the rest of the world into believing her delusions. Sorry baldy; that's a VERY hard pass!
Hahahaha 😂😂
@@sarasunshinemt4444 (baldy) ahhahqhahahah
I swear, you could get more knowledge about the ancient Egypt from playing Assassin's Creed : Origins than you get from watching this so-called documentary. Let that sink in.
A video game with plenty of fantastical elements and made-up characters, lore and driving forces is more true to reality than a "documentary" meant to "educate".
Truly... What a time to live.
i really love the point you made. Some people think Africa as a singular country and chooses to ignore or disrespect all the different amazing culture, nations and people in the continent.
Wait really?
Calling Cleopatra black is like saying Shaka Zulu was white.
No matter how much we 're-imagine' it, it will NEVER be factually true
@Ken North even Mandela was white . We all know that
@Ken North 🤣🤣🤣
Question? How do you know about the history of Africa?
Agreed, but it seems we are in the age of "Its true because I want it to be!"
I can't stop being amazed at the arrogance of thinking they can "re-imagine" what is a real historic figure. I mean, Cleopatra isn't the Little Mermaid. She actually *existed!* You don't get to "re-imagine" her, she was what she was, whether they like it or not.
Sure they can. They reversed "Woman King" to make a black tribe of slavers and butchers the good guy and the British that stopped slavery in central Africa the bad guys. As soon as they left the blacks brought it back, but it is what it is.
This is seriously all that needs to be said.
Yeah, you can reimagine fictional characters any way you like, because they were never real to begin with. There are infinite possibilities.
You're NOT allowed that luxury with people that really existed. It's offensive. To everyone. It offends the peoples you're changing. It affects the intellect of everyone else.
Thus, the "documentary" richly deserves to be tossed into a raging dumpster fire.
Has nothing to do with racism on the audience part. Nothing at all.
You are correct. But little mermaid does come from Scandinavian lore.
@Gutless or even better. "I don't care what they tell you at school. Cleopatra was a trans woman!"
@@artloz6345 yes, you are right. Hard to justify race swapping. Ffs , I bet there are a gazillion interesting folk tales from any African, South American, Asian or anything non-white from where to tell an interesting story. But noo, creatively bankrupt Hollywood can only think of adapting old stuff "to a modern audience". Garbage.
"Netflix's 'Polar Bears'."
I laughed way too hard at this 🤣👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
You don’t ‘re-imagined’ a documentary
Jada’s definition of history is up there with her definition of marriage.
Open and subject to change
@@toolegittoquit_001 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
one of the best comments I’ve ever read!
@@WilliamTyndale007 shit, she has difficulty saying who her husband is.
😏
The amount of delusion, entitlement, victimhood, and ignorance is truly mind blowing
Sadly we're now living in a world with that kind of attitudes.
The way they said it makes them look like the average Twitter users.
Exactly
There shall come a reckoning.
Willfully ignorant
Every thing on NPR. They want it both ways. Racism. Color blind. So tired of race hustlers.
How is it even possible to screw up a portrayal of one of the most interesting historical figures like this? Netflix: Hold my beer! We are going full woke on this one and yes, we shall be stealing her identity and totally misrepresenting her too.
Saying "blackwashing isn't a thing" after making this show is like killing someone and your defense is "murder isn't a thing"
I'm not surprised Netflix hasn't apologized, and I don't believe they will. Just last year, they essentially ignored the complaints from the families of Dahmer's victims.
Let's not forget Cuties. Which at best can be described as a poor attempt at what the movie claimed it was trying to do.
And before that they made soft core cp
Big difference is the Dahmer on was an actual Documentary series with actual facts while this was a shitty fanfic mockumentary trying to play it off as being fact.
That's the difference but yes, they did go extreme on some stuff that the family members didn't want to be shown or told with the Dahmer series.
Dahmer was a completely different situation. They painted him as he was, yet the family didn't like that he got any form of media. This is just plain misinformation and insanity.
@@davidmarrero9608 except the families of the victims protested the inaccurate portrayals of their dead family members. They tried to make dahmer sympathetic ffs
"When does ignorance turn into malevolence?" Excellent point.
When it gets funding and becomes aggressive.
When it becomes WILFUL ignorance.
There is no ignorance in this situation. It is pure malevolence.
Hollywood has been inserting multiple nationalities into roles portraying Vikings for the last 10 years (at least). This has always been bothersome to me and I wondered why nothing was ever said. It wasn't until I watched a Norwegian produced movie where the ending had a parody with the American movie producers replacing the Norwegian actor with a black man for the re-told "true" story. Why Hollywood has decided they get to erase another peson's culture is absurd.
"Blackwashing isn't a thing."
As a wise leader of the Decepticons once said, "You're either lying or you're stupid!"
“I’m stupid, I’m stupid!!”
Could be both.
As if she has never used the term, "white-washing" when it comes to casting actors. Here in America racism only goes one way, and certain people are never called racist no matter what crazy things they say.
The answer it’s both
Or she’s lying because she’s stupid.
This show deserves all of the criticism it's getting
This show deserves all the PRAISE it is getting from the scholarly people..
What is odd about the denial of "blackwashing" being a thing is that this is happening to European cultures yet it is celebrated within those cultures by the media and governments that are supposed to represent them.
Did I say "odd"?
Sorry, I meant gen-oh-sydal and evil.
@@etruscancivilization pseudo-scholars not worth their salt.
@@etruscancivilization
Looking at all your other comments…wonder when you’ll finally realize there’s only one “racist” you should be concerned with. YOURSELF
If it was a show, I can ALMOST understand. But they've presented this farce like it's a documentary.
I'm American - you're on point. Thank you!
I'm actually quite sad that the actress reacted this way. She could have actually come out of this with a fair bit of respect. Her performance was actually quite good, and it isn't her fault she was cast in the role. But she just burned that bridge unfortunately
"I don't care what they tell you in school, Cleopatra was black."
"Nice argument Grandma, care to back it up with a source?"
"My source is I made it the fuck up!!"
Nahh, i sure the source is that Grandma's grandma
I dare Netflix to do a Black Hitler docuseries. " Hitler was really black, ya' know. " It'd be just as accurate as this series was.
@Fazz Faiez yes I'm well aware dude. It's a metal gear solid reference.
@@ayf1983 I'd watch the fuck out of that.
@@fazzfaiez4496
the source was a 🐒
Calling a series depicting a black cleopatra a documentary is like calling the movie Braveheart a documentary.
Braveheart is a great movie
And is more accurate 😂
@@whitewitch32 Braveheart was pretty accurate only thing wasnt accurate was Stirling Bridge battle,,,He never met the french princess and he wasnt called Braveheart
The moment you realize that "Escape from L.A." and "Demolition Man" are now more of a documentary than Netflix Cleopatra.
@@alexcore697 I suggest watching it again!! The very first frame of the film has the wrong date on it. It’s pure fiction.
There is no way that an apology will ever be made people like that don’t apologize they double down.
I remember seeing ads on CZcams for this and watching your review of it. Less than 2 months later I've already forgotten the Cleopatra series exists.
As an Egyptian i can't be more thankful to you for expressing all that's on our minds since this offensive comical series was launched by Netflix. There's a barrier in between my language and yours that doesn't allow me to express the mount of indignation & discontent that we have been going through as a nation watching our history getting robbed by a group of miserable wannabes who have nothing in relation to us whatsoever.
So thank you again 🙏
They try to re-write the history of the whole Mediterranean area. Egyptians, Greeks and Romans were racists and stole the history of the black Africans, this is what they claim...It cannot be more ridiculous than it is already... 400 million people against a small group of lunatics...
Yes I'm fed up with woke ,✓✓✓
They are the first to complain,why couldn't they get an Egyptian artist,love Egypt ,must be talented Egyptian young up coming actresses.
Portrait this properly not made up.🤕👍
The way you tried to rob the history of the people wo built the pyramids? Cos it wasn't you ....
@@Nautilus1972 desperate pathetic wannabe detected 😂
@@Nautilus1972 thought my roof was punctured till i realized those were your tears :)
I remember that very day my grandfather sat me down and told me the truth about ancestry. He said “don’t ever let schools and the western world lie to you, Shaka Zulu was an Asian king”. That’s when I know we was king
My grandma told me not to believe what schools tell me Malcolm X was a white Christian
Lmao!
@Doctor Wario Never forget when the Korean named Rosa Parks didn't give up her seat.
My Grandpa told me Stevie Wonder is actually a Thai ladyboy.
You make a really great point. For years, Hollywood has made films about other countries, their histories and cultures from an outside POV and expected everyone to just accept it as a good thing. Benevolent Hollywood gracing other countries with time and money to tell their stories, without including the countries in question in the dialogue while preaching inclusivity and diversity. And for a long time, we all did accept it because Hollywood was such a super power. Maybe it's due to streaming and people having so many other avenues to get content, but we are just fed up with them, I think. Either actually include people from other countries in those specific projects (which is easier now than it has ever been) and treat them with respect or stop making them.
Dude this is just black people saying they're Egyptians. You're way off in analysis and Hollywood has made tons of fantasy films and films about America.
🗣Nicely put! 🎯👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
"I don't care what they teach you in school, Henry VIII was two Dwarves in a coat, and him getting fat was because they started a family"
I would watch this historical documentary
Don't forget to mention that his 2nd wife, Anne Boleyn, was black and was portrayed as such a in British mini-series.
@@EVALLOYD Oh, of course!
@@EVALLOYD they made Queen Charlotte black too- seems every queen was black. The late Elizabeth II must have used a lot of talcum powder on her face.
I knew it
As a Greek person I feel they have offended Egyptian and Greek history at the same time. I fear we are losing touch with reality and rewriting history (and in other cases biology) with the words ‘this is my truth’. If we challenge the narrative there are nasty accusations, when really we are just standing up for facts and science. How about we just stick to 'the truth'.
Florida is already doing this 🤮
Because for nearly 100 years, American Academia (Inspired by the German Frankfurt School of the 1920's) has been slowly pushing the idea that 'Objective Truth does not exist' into the culture. Of course... the one problem with that statement is that if Objective Truth does not exist... then how can it be Objectively True that Objective Truth doesn't exist?
^_^
Ultimately it's postmodernism/relativism which is an anti-fact, anti-evidence, anti-RATIONAL Ideology, created solely for the purpose of burning The West into the ground.
@@cdnron75 Florida is a joke, facts and science have no place in Floriduh.
rewriting our history is the least of our problems. they are rewriting our dna, with foreigners who our kids are encouraged to breed with.
@@cdnron75 theyre just low iq, cant be helped.
5:53 The way you said "Frenchman" cracked me up.
It's a malevolence grown out of enormous hubris, with ignorance being exposed along the way.
If you "reimagine" history then its not history.
Not unless you’re in the USA and the people your race swapping are originally white
It literally falls under fiction at that point. No ide why they pushing this as history at all. It's just like star wars, pure fiction.
I mentioned this on a Hero Hei video, but I'll say it again here:
I have been studying history all my life, and I am sick of companies trying to change history to fit their own personal bias.
A movie like Anastasia or Pocahontas never claimed to be accurate, they are "what if" stories. Nowadays, these companies try to claim every "historical" show they make is accurate.
Very educational rewarding documentary about about ancient Black Egyptian culture..
@@etruscancivilizationyou are jesting, right?
If they ever make Mulan Black I will Lose it
@@LYNX2418 I think they're being sarcastic
@@user-bc2vv5km3f honestly making Mulan black and in a setting of a black African ancient kingdom war would be more appropriate than this since mulan is actually a fictional character like caption america.
The polar bears jab was brilliant, mate! 😂
You know it's disturbing talking to my younger friends or nieces and nephews/cousins and hearing how they think you can't be racist to white people. Not really related I know but it's the larger picture of this issue and I think it's a dangerous ideaology.
The irony of insisting that the reaction is about skin tone, rather than ethnicity, whereas they specifically decided that Cleopatra should be black to... you guessed it, represent people with a dark skin tone. They co-opt other people's history, themselves focusing on skin tone (see e.g. "Why shouldn't Cleopatra be a melanated sister?"), and then accuse others of doing just that in reverse.
So "Why not imagine white is black"... ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’ - George Orwell "1984"
Disparu mentioned this in one of his earlier videos on the subject. Their line was "Why does it matter so much to you (the folks angry about the blackwashing) that we're depicting Cleopatra with sub-Saharan features?" Disaparu's response was, effectively, that that was more than a little hypocritical since it was obvious that the race-edit was incredibly important to the people making the show.
@@boobah5643
If the reverse would happen with the lead role played by a white actor in, say a biography about M.L.K., not only would it not be accepted (and rightfully so because of obvious falsification of historical facts), but entire cities would burn the same day. They have been used to white people cowering in fear for being called an "-istahpobe" when speaking up about the falsification and mocking of their history for so long, that they thought they could do the same without impunity to any other history. However, the rest of the world does not kowtow like we do in the West. They're currently finding that out the hard way.
I don't like the one-way co-opting they're doing. Co-opting sucks anyway. Make your own stories and own fictional historical figures.
Netflix are ultimately stating that there is nothing, or no one, notable enough to be worth making a documentary about in sub Saharan Africa history.
I hear attacking, humiliating and shaming your fans is a highly effective business tactic, which almost invariably results in great success.
It is working great for Budweiser.
Must be since they all keep doing it. Oh well, definition of insanity and all that...
It's called SIGN language: Shame, Insult, Guilt, and the Need to be right. It's the Marxist feminists' playbook for ending arguments that they can't win with facts.
great commentary. thank you
My guy first time I have seen this and you have hit the nail on the head. Continue to do content like this and continue bringing the truth and facts. Let everyone not being truthful is lying lol ridiculous
as an Egyptian, thanks for pointing out the frustration we're going through. to us it definitely isn't a matter of skin color, Egypt has a diverse skin tone, from white to black, with a majority of somewhere in the middle, as we have more middle eastern features. not because of the Islamic expansions, because you'll find pure Coptic, who marry amongst themselves to this day, with a variety of skin tones too. The problem is, they assume Africa is a country, and everyone there looks the same. and that is racist, and I don't know why Netflix is allowing that. The entire cast doesn't look from Egypt one bit, and Cleopatra, the Queen, isn't even Egyptian. a lot of people seem to mix entertainment with documentaries, thinking both are one and the same since it's on Netflix.
Listen, i m italian, i took a Holiday in Egypt years ago, i m have the classico darker mediterranean skin color even if i m from the north of Italy, when i take sunbath i become so dark that egyptian start to talk to me in marsy
The idiocy of someone claiming that simply being a continent, by default, makes you have one phenotype is beyond words. The equivalent would be someone Chinese demanding historical Indian emperors be made Chinese in movies because India is on the same continent, so everyone there must look Chinese. Or visa versa.
Not mention they hired an Iranian American director who apparently has an agenda to undermine Egyption history and bastardize it.
@@Lorre982 My gampa too was super black! And we are from Emilia, I'm white as a bed sheet.. In the mediterranean area we are so mixed up since forever
I know the feeling my friend, I am Tunisian, and to see this kind of disrespect and disregard to the diversity of African cultures is horrifying.
As a american I am very offended ..... That Hollywood keep making us look like egotistical sociopaths. Also I'm still waiting for them to bankrupt for their stupidity.
Yeah we need to nuke california
I'm sure in about 10-15 years we will have a documentary about Queen Elizabeth the hidden truth of her being really black
To be fair you Yanks do have an ego atm granted it comes from the legitimate place of you are the current world empire but it's there
@Tales Telling i feel like they're just one big step away from total bankruptcy. I mean from their weird updates to the shitshow of smth called netflix original.... And removing good shows to replace them with this kind of content. Man, no where did i see a company trying so hard to fail. My headcanon is that a angry twitter user or reddit mod or smth is the ceo of netflix or just a troll in general.
Alot of us are egotistical. Not all of us but alot. I think it is mainly due to social media.
Hats off to you Disparu! As an American, I have to agree with your comments on our obsession here with race, to the point where it overshadows historical fact. While there are many things I am proud of about my country, the current US madness over this issue is not one of them. Must be entertainment for those of you watching us from the outside in. Keep up the great commentary!
Believe me, not all Americans think this way! Love your videos so far, man 👍
If my grandma blatantly lied to me about history, I'd just assume she knows nothing about history or she's just senile
Or trying to indoctrinate you into a woke movement
I'd just go yeahhh right right after everything else she says
She had curly hair, like mine! 😂
Looks like grandma forgot her meds
To steelman that old ladies gandma's ingnorance she was probaly born pre-ww2 and was probaly very under-educated so assumed african = black so when combined with the blantant whitewashing in movies and tv at the time, she thought white Cleopatra was just another case of whitewashing. The Granddaughter on the otherhand has no excuse.
“Blackwashing isn’t a thing”
Looks at Cleopatra.
Looks at Charlotte of Mecklenburg.
Yes it is a thing.
looks at anne boleyn....
Also, imagine they did a movie on Rosa Parks, and Emma Watson playing the lead, their heads would explode in unison.
Race doesn't matter they say... then why change it in the first place!?
Me: *Looks at MJ and Ariel*
@@maxcanonstunner6532 those are fictional characters.
I can't watch mr. floppy arms flapping his wings like a fledgling bird flapping its wings learning how to fly!
As a lover of history, it hurts how these people have jobs.
@Jon Baxter stopped being lover of history, go get knowledge Dig deeper to find the truth, Nothing is earned just by love but hard working. If you love someone you can't have the person unless you tell, show, care and prove that love.
Great video. Thx
As an American, I will say that the American education system regarding history and archeology is very isolated. Our schools don't REALLY review world history like it should. Everything is through an "Americanized" lens and unfortunately, the US a century ago was heavily steeped in Isolationism to the extreme. With the Age of Technology, there many who broaden their understandings of the world and have a healthy appetite for world history and the knowledge and interests from it. But most Americans honestly don't look deep enough to understand different cultures and peoples and ideologies. Truly unfortunate because if those people were to be truly educated, then there would be more outstanding and compassion from a worldly viewpoint. It's hard for many Americans to break out of the idea that the US is the center of the universe, and that's fundamentally the truth.
"I can't believe people are defending themselves against my attack. Why can't I just attack you and you shut up?."
That's more true than it sounds as Jada responded to an egyptian critic by saying "Why do you care if Cleopatra is greek, you're egyptian."
Cleopatra was not of Greek ancestry. She was Macedonian. Macedonia was the territory north of Greece. Alexander the Great came from Macedonia and conquered Egypt around 332 BC. When he died, one of his generals, Ptolemy, took control of Egypt and became the first Ptolemic Pharoah. Cleopatra was a Ptolemic queen who was married to two of her brothers (they married inside the family) to protect their ancestry and progeny.
@@natew.3731 I'm quoting what the egyptian said. The point is Jada acts confused on why the egyptian cares about Celopatra being another race then his own.
Jada's attitude of "you shut up" is typical of American blacks. They are used to shutting up contrary viewpoints in America.
@@natew.3731 the country of Greece like we know it did not exist at the time. We call all the cultures from that area, including Macedonia, ‘Greek’. Saying Cleopatra wasn’t Greek but Macedonian, is like saying Napoleon wasn’t French because he was from Corsica.
Jada has a point though. Cleopatra wasn't any more Egyptian than she was African. If you tell an Egyptian that Cleopatra wasn't really Egyptian you'll hear the same type of butthurt, accusations of racism and ahistorical nonsense that you'll get from black nationalists.
🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬Hi i am Coptic Egyptian, one of the oldest races of Egypt and for along while now i flet like my people are bring removed from our history, but after this documentary came out and saw how peoole are defending us and standing with the truth, it makes me feel like i can finally breath, but out of all the amazing people who stood up with us, this amazing CZcamsr is the closest to my heart ❤❤❤❤ god bless you, you said what i wanted to say for along time and from what i am seeing you made a difference and helped preserving my people identity and for that i am for ever greatful to you ❤❤❤❤
I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve been called a racist and ignorant on multiple social media platforms, when my father was an Egyptologist and I studied world history extensively in college. You genuinely cannot correct any of these woke nazis. In 2023 America you would get cancelled as long as you don’t support woke/cancel culture.
They are not defending the Egyptians, they are protesting that blacks are doing appropriation... Because they are doing that with every culture
been coptis you are really descended from others than the original black african of kemet , the ANCIENT tamerian were the original people of " egypt" so you are not the the builders of tameri .
@@ricardodelano2205 you live in a fantasy world,I am sure you were told this by your grandmother too
@@minasamir3432 as a half EGYPTIAN ppl like them just disgus me
Lol killed me at 13:30 something. Coming from a brit the saying “Pot calling the kettle black” never rang more true. 😂😂
4:29 nothing will bring you down to earth faster than a expert gran...🤣
The problem is when a whole group of people are convinced they're victims anyone that goes against them is seen as an aggressor. Time to bloody grow up!
You my friend can suck a dick. Worry about your history of raping and pillaging and rewriting history to hide the facts.
Facts 👌
It's more complicated than that.
Two decades ago, an intellectual movement emerged in sub-Saharan Africa against the dominance of French corporations in the region. Its slogan was "Africa belongs to Africans"... This was an opportunity for North African countries like Egypt and Morocco to focus on their relations with their brothers in the south. This was the beginning of African-African cooperation in various fields at the expense of France ...
As a result, the French intelligence, under the guise of cultural missions, established a counter-movement whose slogan is "Africa belongs to the blacks" with the aim of creating hatred between the countries of North Africa and the countries of sub-Saharan Africa...and they almost succeeded in that. Once, some sub-Saharan African activists went so far as to accuse us (the indigenous Berbers of North Africa) of being foreign occupiers of our land, just because we are not black! LOL
in the end. All these French maneuvers did not find much media resonance in the region. But with the intensification of the French economic crisis year after year, due to its loss of its African markets, the French resorted behind the scenes to spread the ideology of "Africa belongs to blacks" in African-American circles because they are more psychologically prepared to accept these ideas, and because they are more prevalent in the media... and this Cheap artwork is just one such maneuver.
so, this whole group of people who are convinced they're victims, they are victims. Because there will always be a cunning person somewhere who knows how to steer them into battles that serve his interests!
@@mm-qt6dq That's both sickening and scary!
@@mm-qt6dqum what are you talking about 🤦♂️
Asia doesn't do this whole, "Ehh, you're all kinda the same color, you're all exactly the same," thing either. Call a Japanese person Chinese and see how fast they correct you.
Exactly, not even Europe does this , a person from Scandinavia looks different to a person from Greece / Spain, heck even we from Balkans are a bit different to those from northern Europe
I think the United States has trouble accepting its new melting pot status so it does that instead - putting people into groups based on skin color when in reality every shade is different therefore you can't form groups
If you put up a Japanese flag in a Chinese town, you'll literally get lynched
Yes and add this to the fact that Africa is a gargantuan continent that could fit most other continents on earth inside of it.
Call a Chinese person Japanese and we outline the events leading up to the R8pe of Nanking down to the minute.
Even Kiwis get offended if called Aussie.
I am Australian and I second your comment about people not being able to tell the difference. In Australia and the UK it would be obvious but when I was traveling it was guessed that I was British more then a few times. Not that I minded I have British heritage so I was proud to be associated with my ancestoral home.
PS: Except when I am drunk then apparently my eastern europen heritige comes out and people guess I am Russian, but that side of my family is Polish.
What really bothers me is that, if this was not the documentary and it was made as a series or drama...a lot of people would have supported this
I'm still laughing over the fact they thought the public was so far gone that this would be applauded. That grandma comment was just said with such pride, you could tell they were totally thinking that would get like a standing ovation or something. Like it was a MLK speech ender.
They live in delusion, Hollywood doesn't know their paying audience. Apparently because I'm black i'm supposed to love this, but as a student of history? I'm repulsed by the disregard & hijacking of an entire cultures history to tell a ego fueled fan faction. Enough identity politics in entertainment!
I stopped watching after that comment.
Imagine a national geographic documentary that says: "my grandmother used to say: I don't care what they teach you in school, the earth is flat", then attacks geologists and Astronomers when they object.
@@Agooo13431 "My grandmother used to say: I don't care what they teach you in school, Adam and Eve were the first humans." - Netflix's stunning and brave documentary on how evolution is false.
It makes me cringe that woman is a teacher. But I looked at her profile and says she's a black feminist and hard-core Afrocentrist. I feel sorry for the young folks who she successfully brainwashed with her drivel.
If it's a re-imagined Cleopatra she can reimagine an audience.
😂😂
Taxes < propaganda
soon they will "fix" the ratings in rt and swap to an imaginary audience
Another thing I hate is that African countries have such rich cultures containing many black queens, but instead of talking about them truthfully and respectfully, actually teaching the western audience about those unknown cultures, they just decided to insult Egypt. All of that probably because making a "documentary" about an actual black queen wouldn't have sold. Disgusting.
What would be the backlash to an actor playing Mandela, that wasn’t black?
An actor playing Malcolm X, that wasn’t black?
An actress playing Tina Turner, that wasn’t black?
The reimagining excuse does not hold up once you label yourself a documentary. A documentary is supposed to be based on facts and history leaving little to no room for any sort of reimagining.
You've heard of alternate facts? This is alternate language. "Documentary" means whatever I want it to mean that enhances my ethnicity.
@@JOHN----DOE Ah, the old Amber Heard strategy of "I use those terms interchangeably, so it's not really lying when I use the one that definitely doesn't describe what I actually did."
@@JOHN----DOE There is no such thing as alternate facts. That term is as dumb as the term good or true facts. Facts are facts anything else are lies and fiction and should not be treated as if on equal footing.
I don't care what historical Evidence or sculptures/ Paintings say my grandma says Martin Luther King was Japanese. :DDD
The truth is that alot of blacks WANT to use the race card...it's acweapon for them🤮🤡
I hate that line ‘why is it good that she was Greek?’ It’s not good or bad. It’s FACT. They have this wierd idea that fact is second to emotion
Didn't you know? _Facts_ and _evidence_ are white supremacy.
Whether you take that to mean that _white supremacy_ has nothing to do with race or that they themselves hold some incredibly racist views is up to you.
It's a version of obfuscation that they want people to not notice the swap.
These are people who would say "race/color doesn't matter" when it comes to movies and series.
If race/color doesn't matter then why CHANGE it in the first place!?
Yes am Egyptian and I wished to tell her that it’s a fact 🤷♀️😂
Right? Why was it good that Martin Luther King Jr. was black? Why was it good that Mahatma Gandhi was Indian? Why was it good that Oda Nobunaga was Japanese? Why was it good that Napoleon Bonaparte was Corsican? It wasn't. That's just what they were, regardless of whether people consider it a good or bad thing.
@@VenathTehN3RD EXACTLY
I remember my grandmother used to say. No matter what they said. It is blackwashing.
As an American, I can say that the myopic view on race from the U.S. goes both ways.
I met this woman from Iran who was very offended at being called a 'brown person'. She said "I am not brown, my skin is not brown... Please stop calling me that..."
The university replied: "No you don't understand, it's just a blanket term used to amalgamate several unique cultures into specific made-up racial categories to establish that above all, you're not 'white'... You ARE 'brown' don't you see?..."
0:51
*"How about colonising Egyptian history so that you can erase an indigenous population from their cultural heritage"*
Man you are good with words.
Yes
That quote is horribly inaccurate.
@@sankofared1374
The quote is totally accurate.
He described Afrocentrism perfectly.
Blacks stealing history of other nations because they are ashamed of their own,
The show isnt even only falsefied in ethnic areas, but even the person Cleopatra is incredibly distorted as a virtuous woman after western moral principles, when in reality she was a calculating political figure that manipulated and exploited her way to winning the civil war. And that’s not it. They don’t even get the Romans right! An absolute disgrace to history television.
Cleopatra was a ruthless, cunning woman. Cheated on her brother-husband then killed him after he started some civil war.
Yet, contemporary writings speak of her as sensual, captivating, intelligent, and beautiful.
People that saw her from afar describe her as average looking, but those that met her fell in love with her. Including two Roman leaders.
It's a FASCINATING character. Perhaps not a virtuous woman, but certainly a successful one.
@Alonso b
When Alan rickman was asked why he always played bad people he said "I don't play bad people I play interesting people"
They could have taken that tact here and people may have overlooked the backwashing to a degree. A cunning manipulative fierce woman who would win at any cost is a pretty interesting character. I don't think you avoid teh backlash for blackwashing completely but if they had represented the history correctly that would have been something
@@alonsoACR I would disagree on whether the said two Roman leaders did fall in love with her. Well Marc Antoine did but from what I was taught, Cleopatra is calculative and did sneaked in Caesar's chambers in some... interesting way (apparently rolled herself in carpet that gets delivered to Caesar). I was taught that Caesar found Cleopatra interesting as she was able to keep up with any topic he was talking about. Though from what I make out, it seems they had a some sort of one night stand and Caesar helped Cleopatra in whatever coup d'état it was. It also seemed that Caesar had other plans revolving Cleopatra and most likely used her as some tool in some future. At least that's what I understood
@@yukishiro3287 Caesar, a married man, not only helped her in war and increased her autonomy from Roman influence and expanded her lands, but brought her home to Rome.
It was illegal for a crowned monarch to step into Rome, so he sneaked her in. With sneaked, I mean they went in together with Cleopatra flashing her diadem (a Greek crown) right on her head. Everyone found out and it seems it was obvious they had a relationship.
Caesar built her statues around Rome, with she being dressed as Venus or Aphrodite, the goddess of beauty. One of them was built within the Temple of Aphrodite, and was like 10 feet tall
He was seen together with Cleopatra and their son, Caesarion, very often.
This whole thing did not do any favors for the rumors Caesar wanted to be crowned king. I mean, he already had a Queen and a Prince lmao. For a political and military mastermind, all that was kind of stupid, that just gave fuel to the assassination conspiracy. There must be some relation between doing stupid things and love, don't you think?
If that's not infatuation then I don't know what is.
@@alonsoACR Ok. I guess I can see the infatuation. But prince...? Sorry I feel like I'm a bit mixed up in some of the history I learned in high school (it's been quite some time since I last looked at my history books)... I remember Cleopatra killing her brother/1st husband. And after that she married her even younger brother to rule. And I guess she killed him too? Idk about when Caesar sneaked her in though. I forgot if Caesarion would even be acknowledged as a prince as he was born out of wedlock and could be considered as "impure" (well... there could be exceptions). I suppose that Caesar would probably have wanted his son become his successor if he was seen so often together with them and if he weren't assassinated? Or nvm because Octavius did come back to claim quite a big part of his heritage from his adoptive father (and maternal grand-uncle). Caesar doesn't seem like he was aware that he would be assassinated. Does that mean that his son isn't so loved since he isn't recognized as his child?
Well... Damn that woman... I heard that she tried to hook up with Octavius so that she could spare herself (at least from what I've heard. Octavius didn't give a damn and I probably would've done the same way and tbh, it looks disgusting)