I remember being disappointed when I was little that the Galactic Enforcers never really appeared in Ben 10 again, but as I'm older I legit can't remember a single thing about them other than the fact one of them liked ben.
@@MadaraUchiha-of9rj I'll try my best. The Galactic Enforcers do appear again in a Ben 10,000 special and in Alien Force. However, so much time travelling happpens in Ben 10 that the original timeline sorta doesn't exist. It still follows the original plot but it's not concrete 🤷🏽♂️. Kuro has a whole video dedicated to the timelines, universes and dimensions that occur in Ben 10 so he could explain it better than me
I could see “technorg shows up and is an overbearing man servant trying to be helpful but completely lacking in Earth Knowledge so ending up as a nuisance” as a comedic premise in Omniverse.
@@deadaccount8054 I mean I found that episode kinda humorous actually. It would've been cool to have a flashback episode involving Technorg though. Omniverse's premise really allowed for them to develop on OG ben more I wish they had done so
I remember that scene in "grudge match" when slix vigma resisted upgrade, that scared the hell out of me as a kid. It felt like he'd broken one of the show's unspoken rules, which was terrifying, and it added a huge ticking clock to every second after it.
I think because he had a consciousness he could resist because ben was trying to control him not just upgrade him like he does to ben 23 as clockwork in omniverse.
@@antelopepack3904 So my theory is correct, someone like Ultron or Brainiac would easily overpower Upgrade in seconds (And even Green Lantern's Ring lol).
@@jeanduresau seconds sounds too fast but it depends on which Ben is using Upgrade. if it was Reboot/Classic then yeah ig so but AF/UAF/Omniverse Ben imo could definitely control any of them for a good while. also I don't think the Ring is sentient/conscious correct me if I'm wrong
To be fair Ben has sludge puppy relatives and an anadite grandmother. Even if you don’t have the “gift” I’m sure some strength would be passed down. I don’t know how to explain grandpa max being super human though.
I like that they established the supernatural as a part of the world-building, it makes the Ben 10 universe feel bigger than just a universe filled with aliens.
fair, but i prefer the more alien-focused approach the other series take. i think it's more satisfying to see one concept (aliens) being explored thoroughly instead of new concepts (like ancient gods or sentient telepathic plants) suddenly being added and only being explored for like 1 episode.
@@vetarlittorf1807 yeah, but they never mention these Mayan gods or whatever to be connected with ledgerdomain magic, do they? not as far as i remember.
@@awesomesofar5963 The Ben 10 universe has always had aliens, mutants, magic, cryptics, demons, gods, etc, Alien Force was the only series that tried to posh the "everything is an alien" concept but even it drops that by season 3. Ultimate Alien even has an entire arc based around an Lovecraftian Elder God.
I think max's heatblast would have smth like a dimmer shorter flame on his head to indicate that "his fire is slowly going out" (didnt mean for it to sound so dark but u get the point)
That'd take quite a bit of research and calculation. First of all, gas prices rise and fall fairly often (currently we're on a rise cause of that stupid pipeline incident), so you can't just check your 2021 local gas station price and slap it in the equation, you would have to go back to the years Ben 10 was made (the 2000s). Second, every state has different average prices on gas (probably because of difference in taxes) and as gas station companies are always in competition with one another, each station has different prices to compete with other local stations.
@@zean6105 man I just rewatched the series like 2 months ago and watched that one multiple times since it’s one of my favorites and still never saw those pyronites and other things
One thing I love about Omniverse is how welcoming Ben is to aliens, and how the show depicts so much aliens as just people living their lives. Like, in Omniverse you totally would get Technorg as a recurring character who likes hanging out with Ben. Ben's best friend in that show is an alien.
Omniverse did significantly better on the world building. If we could change history I'd love to see the world where they keep the franchise more consistent and care more about the world building like Omniverse had.
@@diamond_dude1063 I'd like to say the Ben10 is so underrated my old school nobody watched Ben10 they just watched Dragon Ball, DC, Marvel, Pokemon and shit
I always loved how scared ben is when he first turns into wildvine. His scared expression as the green flash covers him. And how it looks like he trying to rip his body apart to get his head out. Really plays into the race’s nature in secret of the omnitrix
My theory with Kevin 11’s grey matter parts is that it’s what keeps him sane. According to the Kevin lore (at least the Osmosian, not sure about the mutant version) it says the more they absorb the more unstable they become. I think grey matter’s mental strength is what kept the little boy in the body of 10 aliens painfully merged together cohesive enough to still be himself.
Maybe his Grey Matter intelligence allows him to control all the powers His Ghost Freak power allows him to be light enough to fly Maybe he used his Wildmut power to track them down before the episode started
I honestly thought that the reason the Omnitrix turned Ben into Wildvine is yes, because of the fungi king but for a different reason like, it turned Ben into Wildvine to help UNDERSTAND the fungi king! Maybe to converse with it and resolve the situation peacefully? Evident that that wasn't gonna work out. I like this theory because it caters to the "I created the Omnitrix so that all species can understand one another" idea. Also another "observation" I made. I think Kevin's goo is flammable is because it's like a compound. It's missing a vital compound to make it non-flammable. Like Ben said, each of Kevin's powers is 1/10th of Ben's which explains why it couldn't even hold Ben for more than 10 seconds but original stinkfly's goo stopped Vilgax for a good amount of time
Fun fact: the walking mushrooms are one of the only unnamed species from the classic series. They also share Wildvine's home planet, which may have something to do with unlocking him? One of the aliens from the character designers' Go Fund Me last year was Funguy who is a member of this species, his only described power is he emits laughing spores from his arms, which makes his name even more fitting.
@Siboniso Buthelezi true. They could be related however, as there are many different types of mushroom, so there could be many different types of the species?
I've never understood why Ben and Gwen dislike each other so much. Before the road trip, they barely interacted and they don't even go to the same school.
@@nokizzey5985 he's saying, that before the road trip, Ben and Gwen hardly / never talked. Hes saying it's crazy that family that didn't even talk to eachother have a deep hatred for eachother since the roadtrip started. He's not talking about the last episode, he's talking about the road trip.
Now I always rationalized Max’s character regression in “Ultimate Weapon” was the result of him falling back into the headspace of when he was originally on this case. He used to be surrounded by people who knew the same things he did and how grave that sword would be, so mentally he was no longer on a road trip with his grandkids, but back in his plumber days with a team. However he was much more oblivious than I remembered so I think if anything they played that mentality up way too much.
5:18 I always figured this was what the Grey Matter "perk" was; The increased intelligence from that alien having enabled him to adapt to his new, very different body so much in such little time. Ben says that each specific alien's powers that Kevin's using is individually weaker than the same from Ben's pure aliens as basically a trade-off for having all of them at once, so it'd make sense that the intelligence boost would be significantly less pronounced in Kevin's case, and getting used to his crazy mutated alien hybrid body with 5 extra limbs, flight, pyrokinesis, and ghost powers, that ain't easy without some high spec mental ability.
You have GOTTA do a good tier max counter, like every time he “activates god mode” aka dodging lasers jumping around and other crazy stuff that you wouldn’t an old man to do.
Well wouldn't that have been something. Shame that the writers there didn't consider it, but in-universe, I tossed it as they being occupied with the HighBreed invasion on other planets. Edit: maybe a good take on your ideea would have been to see, after the Armada was called back to their planet, we do get to see some planets celebrating their retreat with the Enforcers alongside them
@@alexhuduma9474 There were Highbreed invasions on other planets? I know Galvan Prime was destroyed, but I though that only Earth had a jump gate, and it was the staging point of a universal invasion.
I was always curious at how kevin never had the intelligence of greymatter but with how kevin's powers are 1/10 of ben's, even if greymatter had an IQ of like 1000 kevin would still have only average intelligence. Pretty funny
Ben needs to get a restraining order on Tiny, or Max needs to get one for him EDIT: Now that I think about it, maybe that's actually why we barely ever see them again
I think she and that psychic enforcer got together at the end, hence why she said, "I found a new partner." That being said, the idea of Max and/or Ben getting a restraining order is hilarious.
Wouldn't Tiny be able to tell if a member of her own species is young? Ben turns into that species equivalent of a 10-11 year old so wouldn't Tiny notice that? I guess it wouldn't matter if Tetramands don't have any morals against that but I doubt the writers would ever make that a thing in any way.
Grudge match is honestly my favorite episode of this season, love the Diamond Head fight at the start and one liners there. Then seeing Ben teach Kevin about his powers was amazing, and what we could have seen if Kevin decided to join the team in his first episode. Finally, then with the cannon ball fight *chef kiss*
Keep in mind that, even if they were old man, the Omnitrix always picks prime examples of that species. Just like there are plenty of humans that can be very fit on old age (like Max himself), then it's not too farfetched to think that plenty, if not most of Max's aliens would still be very capable.
I mean, him doing a lifeform scan on planets for the best fighters makes sense for why they got picked up, because not only is Kevin a freakish monstrosity, but each of Ben's Aliens are noted to be the peak condition of their species, the absolute best of the best while remaining still the same species
And even without the "best of the best" part, Diamondhead is a Petrosapian, a species brought down to only two specimen: Tetrax and Ben. So it makes sense for why he was picked.
I thought , his aliens were from species with abilities that can be actually considered a super powered Take bats , they have echo location which can be usefull for humans . But thats not enough to be a combat suited species . Most ben 10 aliens are like super heroes . They are strong and durable . Some can fly even though its not their primary power .
@@uvindukulathunga3860Nah, any sentient species can be in the omnitrix. The only reason Ben has all the super-powered ones is for the plot. You could argue that most of the planets are dangerous enough to warrant all the aliens being super-powered, though.
I forgot Vulkanus appeared in the original series. I only really remember him from that Taydenite episode in Alien Force. I like how Technorg is the same species as Vulkanus. Seeing "prominent" characters share a species always feels nice.
@@skibot9974 I disagree because if Ghostfreak had one contingency plan incase of his demise, chances are he'd have several more. And Eon is also a pretty smart guy, he was able to defeat hundreds of versions of Ben Tennyson, clearly he would have a backup plain to if one defeated him. Enoch tho, he's just human. The Forever Knights don't have tech that can revive the dead.
@@skibot9974 I always thought that Eon actually died in that episode and every other appearance of Eon in omniverse is a younger version of him who doesn't know when he is going to die kind of like maltruent being stuck in a time loop
I'm convinced that whoever named the different species of aliens on this show are legit scientists because they sound as real as anything you'd hear in real life.
@@luongmaihunggia its a theory olso we saw ben could go to rex's universe so ben could have just taken max to rex and they could have ejected rex's nanite into max
max’s willingness to let people literally die is a bit out of character, however it’s something that’s consistent within the other series too. like in UA when ben says he’s going to kill Kevin, Max says he’d do it but that it’s not something Ben would do. i might be paraphrasing a bit, but it’s something i just noticed
I think Grudge Match did the whole 'The Villain and Hero have to work together!' Plot a tad early. This is the first time we've really seen Kevins mutated form, it feels like there should've been at least one other time we see him like that before this episode? Idk. Loved the episode as a kid, and stil do 👍
I feel like Cannonbolt has the ability to compress his body to a smaller size to increase his speed when in ball form. In the game, Protector of Earth, he has that one move where he compresses until he implodes. But it’s just a random thought.
I think Stinkfly has different variations of his acid, kinda like how spiders have 13 different variations of their silk that comes from the spinaret, each made in its own chamber. Stinkfly may have something similar for producing his varying acids.
I think Ben didn't have access to a water transformation so that is why stinkflys slime can explode, be sticky, be slimy, be electric conductive and put out fires. Original 21 Aliens all had other powers. Wildvine camouflage, bombs and tunneling. Four arms sound, earth and Super strength(and fire resistance). Upgrades Lazer and short teleport. Even heatblasts short teleport(the building on fire he teleports 2 humans without burning) Where ultimate there's chromastone one power, lone Star more like LAME.
Thinking about Frankenstrike. HiS has superintelegence, electric powers, tech control and strength. I mean who cares about benwolf or upgrade or grey matter or even fourarms. That's the alien.
In Grudge match, I'm surprised that none of the aliens attempted to straight up kill wand eat ben. In the animated ben 10 film, the diamond head stated that humans were a Delicacy. But whatever.
@@lucario2able they would have to try and sever his arm off. The blast that would result from them trying to take it of somehow would cause severe to fatal damage to all of them except Kevin or Ben, since the Omnitrix would try and keep him alive for as long as possible. Not to mention, the blast would most likely cause some heavy damage to the room if they were in a corridor or something.
@@dregmek Yea idc. These aliens done know what happens if they try to take it from Ben. It's just I feel they could overlook the human delicacy part since they saw him using the omnitrix. I think they would choose to attempt that as opposed to eating him. I didn't say they would successfully do it. Just that they would try.
@@lucario2able again like other said teh guards prob would stop them thus they think it wouldn't be worth it or didn't really care for the omnitrix not everyone obsessed has vilgax is with the watch
Honestly I'd wanna see a Detrovite transformation for 5 Years later based on this guy's design, seeing as we know he's the same species as Vulcanis so it'd be super interesting to see a similar transformation, Armor and even an club or mace like object as a weapon. IDEAS FOR THE INK TANK
Would have been fun to see Ben fighting more gods (other than celestial sapiens) like the greek or the ones that guarded the sword and see where the aliens stack up. Kind of like a technology vs magic type thing or divine.
I love that you watched this because people seem to forget that one time that Ben and Kevin not only went to space but, for the first time, they worked together, and he kicked Kevin into space and yet Travis episode is still underrated. It’s nice to see somebody appreciate it.
I think the reason Wildvine was unlocked is a point towards Omnitrix having some form of sentience as it knew Ben couldn’t handle the situation with his arsenal so it gave him a new tool.
If I had to guess, Stinkfly's goop can swap between being flammable or not. He has 4 bits to shoot out of after all. I think it works like this: He can make a sticky but non-flammable version. That when shot at flames snuffs the oxygen and puts out the fire. But when shooting the 2nd varient, it can catch fire. Or maybe if gets set on fire *after* being shot out it's flammable but because it was shooting smaller active flames it easily removed the oxygen
I wanna say that when Ben returned and it seemed like only a small amount of time passed- well the reason is probably because the ship was rapidly moving away from earth the entire time and space time is known to be wonky when these distances are traveled. I'm not exactly sure how it works but it is just a decent excuse as to why they didn't have to change scenes on earth.
Also in the pop-ups of "Secrets of the Omnitrix" it was clearly explained that Incarcecon (which is a prison for aliens since the Null Void tech is only exclusive to plumber) was made by the first version of the Galactic Enforcers 500 years the series
Oh man, when I did my watchthrough, I was so excited that Tom Kane was using his grandiose Star Wars Narrator voice. I was not pleased when Jeff Bennett replaced him
Considering how consistently inconsistent they make Canonbolt's size I just head-canon that Canonbolt can alter his size within a certain range especially in ball form. Either he curls up more tightly making him denser for harded hits or he has a far less pronounced version of Humungaour's size ability.
I used to think trechnorg and the vulcanus were the same person. I think the reason is it's the exact next episode and we are not shown if his wrecking ball arm is just a cover over an arm and we assume it's just a suit thing for both (e.g. the spikes and cover and for technorg the wrecking ball has his hand inside).
I think if they were going to do this kind of story with Max, it should have been over something more genuinely world-shattering, like the Annihalargh or something of a similar scale.
I’ve always liked how Ultimate Weapon moves away from the alien thematic, for the series, the pumblers and the Forever Knights. Going after supernatural stuff.
i can’t stress enough about how much i love this series. it’s so cool :)) i like the whole layout of it all. i enjoy the start where kuro gives us updates, the breakdowns, comparing my rating with his, and the conclusion. i always want more. i love the direction you’re taking things :))
I think the reason that Galvanic Mechamorph was gray instead of green was due to age. "But what about Grandpa Max, he was still green?" My theory is GM's live way longer than humans (obviously), so if they hit a certain age range they start to dull in their green color to a blueish-gray.
I was really jealous of kids who had young parents who could learn how to set up internet game access. Alas, fusion fall will forever be a fantasy for me lol
I just realized they retconned Vulcanus’ true form. He looks like a buff guy underneath his suit in the classic series, but he’s actually a dwarf in UAF
I was so confused about how Kevin came back, I always thought that I missed an episode or something, for there is nothing about how it looked like he died last time and no explanation of how he found them or anything like it
Dont forget they dropped him into water. He has RIP jaws who is aquatic as well as super strength and durability so a fall wouldn't kill him so easily in the ocean.
@@rushalias8511 One thing that was better about old ben ten was there was no best alien they each had a function, and worked in different situations, in the new one there was a strongest and some felt flat out better or worse
@@daraghokane4236 Exactly, And a Problem with the Newer ones is that since some Aliens can Basically do Everything, You just Question why Ben just dont use them everytime
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 you also question why he picks some since they have aliens who are functionally the same in some cases. Like why pick wildmutt if you have rath or why pick Ditto if you have echo echo
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 Like echo is dido but better. The crab alien is gray matter but better Wish alien X stayed unreliable best and worst alien to balance it out. It would be a ironic ending to villgax if he gets the watch goes alien X and says give me an army they both go no release me they both go no and he is traped by the thing he always wanted
66 Is usually some frail opponent for Ben which is just more of a irritation than a threat, but in this episode all his tricks with his suit which we never see again made him OP. I would've liked to see this version of him more.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I mean since Ben turns into the prime version of his alien species then Four Arms must look very attractive to the female Tetramands
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 If I had a nickel for every time a Tetramand flirted with Ben, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
That moving texture on the crowd was a lot like what they did in Citizen Kane, where, for the famous tracking shot of the crowd, they had a matte painting, but, to add in motion, they moved a piece of paper underneath slits they made in the painting. Just thought it was a neat detatil
20:48 The Galvans wrote the laws for the galaxy. It's mentioned when Vilgax becomes the conqueror of 10 worlds in Alien Force. Though I find it shady that they made it legal to conquer planets as long as you defeat their strongest champion, clearly the Galvans shouldn't be trusted if they wrote that into law.
Actually it's pretty smart I mean if the made it illegal to conquer planets it wouldn't be taken seriously because war is pretty much inevitable due to many reasons this way however would minimise the violence at the very least.
We totally learn more about the Mycelium. In Secrets of the Omnitrix, planet Zenon (or Xenon) where Asmath is hanging out, the planet is covered in mushrooms that were clearly an invasive species since there's buildings and tech left behind. This also gives us the reason behind Wildvine's appearance. This alien Mycelium must be interconnected with Wildvine DNA, given that Wildvines (rather savage and animalistic Wildvines) live on the planet and capture Gwen, to the extent that Ben even thought she was dead. My theory is that those Walking mushrooms are just the early stages of the Mycelium takeover on Earth, sort of a fodder force to keep surface beings busy until the spores can be released into the atmosphere, whereupon the planet can be seeded and perhaps these spore could even leave the planet outright either in this release or in future stages wherein the cycle repeats until the planet is covered. Wildvines may be one of the later stages of this fungal takeover. No longer needing a mere distraction force and instead evolving actual warriors to defend the primary Mycelium. Which is maybe what the Omnitrix was able to scan from the DNA of the fungus around Ben, this warrior form, or rather just the adolescent form, given that Ben's transformations are also tied to his own human maturity. There are of course holes in this theory, given that the wiki's list Wildvine's species and home planet on Flors Verdance. Not to mention Omniverse characters. But I thought my explanation could have some merit in the Flourana evolution anyway.
It's crazy how the episode implies that the whole thing with them looking for the sword lasted 2 days at most. But if the sword is a Mayan artifact, the temple should've been located somewhere South of Mexico, maybe near the mexican peninsula. Do you have any idea how far that is? It should've taken them about a week or more to cover that distance in the rust bucket.
Nice theory They would make more sense than it being flammable it wa stated that kevin is 10% of every alien of the first 10 is I think that is how it works? I think
Seeing as we never see Stinkfly use flammable slime, it does make more sense that the flammable slime is a Kevin specific thing, like a side effect of his mutation.
11:26 i remember seeing that scene and thinking "o dam hes gonna-" then he just gets smacked for ben to control again Made me laugh so damn hard, and its still funny
Glad Grudge Match got a 24/25 ngl, definitely one of my favourite episodes also I love these breakdowns in general, can't wait to see what I missed in Secrets of the omnitrix (It will be reviewed, right?)
legitimately love how your cat always gets in these vids haha. And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Wildvine's introduction deserved a bit more screentime
9:33 I believe the way it worked is that it sort of splattered and covered the fire, cutting off the oxygen to keep it ignited whereas if the goo was to be ignited by a fully active fire it would ignite. But that's just me thinking
The real question is, is Ascalon the real sword that was rumored to be there? It fits the whole holding the fate of the human race thing pretty well, and it is a sword. Also why the Forever Knights would be so interested, because their history is intertwined with that of Ascalon.
This is my thoughts exactly. Hearing a sword that could level cities felt on brand. St. George died in 303ce irl. The Maya civilization existed c250-1697ce. So the sword could reasonably have influenced the myth. Especially since George is in America in UA.
Camp Fear could take place between Kentucky and Mississippi, based on the animated details of the forest, then picking up on the Mayan//Mexico episode next, they're passing through Louisiana...
i think my dream ben 10 show would be like a 13 year old ben whos more caring about his hometown and is less universe saving and more friendly neighbourhood hero
I remember being disappointed when I was little that the Galactic Enforcers never really appeared in Ben 10 again, but as I'm older I legit can't remember a single thing about them other than the fact one of them liked ben.
Yah after that only Vengeance of Vilgax Cameo😔
all i remember is that one of them really didn't like chocolate tbh
They tried to arrest villcax and he killed them thats my head theory
God I thought it was just me, the fuck did they do to be so nonexistent in the memory?
That and the chocolate allergy
"Keep it, in hopes that we meet again someday."
Kuro: And they never do
Me: But...
Kuro: Future doesn't count.
Me: Dammit
Explain
@@MadaraUchiha-of9rj I'll try my best.
The Galactic Enforcers do appear again in a Ben 10,000 special and in Alien Force. However, so much time travelling happpens in Ben 10 that the original timeline sorta doesn't exist. It still follows the original plot but it's not concrete 🤷🏽♂️.
Kuro has a whole video dedicated to the timelines, universes and dimensions that occur in Ben 10 so he could explain it better than me
@@MadaraUchiha-of9rj
Here's the video explaining the Ben 10 timelines czcams.com/video/AyN_Ov23CV0/video.html
@@pksidinana ohhh thanks for explaining it
he shows up in the alien force season 3 finale, but gets killed by vilgax. but wait a minute?
I could see “technorg shows up and is an overbearing man servant trying to be helpful but completely lacking in Earth Knowledge so ending up as a nuisance” as a comedic premise in Omniverse.
Probably should have done that instead of that stupid "Everyone thinks this guy with a beard is vilgax" episode
I'd like him to just one day end up on a farm with a pretty wife and live the single life
@Ethan Kellerman “Yea, I get that a lot”
@@deadaccount8054 I mean I found that episode kinda humorous actually. It would've been cool to have a flashback episode involving Technorg though. Omniverse's premise really allowed for them to develop on OG ben more I wish they had done so
@@deadaccount8054 But I like that episode. It’s got the best Snare-Oh fight in the franchise.
Me as a kid: man, that’s a weird name for a book. Wonder what a “manja” is
Me now: MY MAN BEN REALLY BE READING ULTRA MAN-
It looks more like Mazinger.
Looks like a mecha anime
And will soon turn into a ultraman evangelion
Funny enough, Marvel Comics are doing an Ultraman series...
and then his ultraman fantasy comes true when he unlocks waybig
I remember that scene in "grudge match" when slix vigma resisted upgrade, that scared the hell out of me as a kid. It felt like he'd broken one of the show's unspoken rules, which was terrifying, and it added a huge ticking clock to every second after it.
@just a bleach bottle its unspoken,But i think its that if you are a machine you cant resist a mechamorph
So basically...If Ben decided to use Upgrade against someone like Ultron (Marvel), he would be fucked.
I think because he had a consciousness he could resist because ben was trying to control him not just upgrade him like he does to ben 23 as clockwork in omniverse.
@@antelopepack3904 So my theory is correct, someone like Ultron or Brainiac would easily overpower Upgrade in seconds (And even Green Lantern's Ring lol).
@@jeanduresau seconds sounds too fast but it depends on which Ben is using Upgrade. if it was Reboot/Classic then yeah ig so but AF/UAF/Omniverse Ben imo could definitely control any of them for a good while. also I don't think the Ring is sentient/conscious correct me if I'm wrong
"Infinite Tennyson Strength" is an unexpected running gag, but I love it.
To be fair Ben has sludge puppy relatives and an anadite grandmother. Even if you don’t have the “gift” I’m sure some strength would be passed down. I don’t know how to explain grandpa max being super human though.
There was that one timeline of Ben 10,000 in Ultimate Alien were he had anadite powers
He has brought the force of god
@@aidenwalk1118 The sludgepuppies are only related to the Tennysons through marriage
@@ctshaffer1999 Yeah I couldn’t remember if they were or not
I like that they established the supernatural as a part of the world-building, it makes the Ben 10 universe feel bigger than just a universe filled with aliens.
Yh hated that they undid that later on liked the idea that Ben lived in a marvel or DC like world rather then just aliens
fair, but i prefer the more alien-focused approach the other series take. i think it's more satisfying to see one concept (aliens) being explored thoroughly instead of new concepts (like ancient gods or sentient telepathic plants) suddenly being added and only being explored for like 1 episode.
@@awesomesofar5963 It wasn't explored in just one episode. We already saw Hex and Gwen literally becomes a sorceress.
@@vetarlittorf1807 yeah, but they never mention these Mayan gods or whatever to be connected with ledgerdomain magic, do they? not as far as i remember.
@@awesomesofar5963 The Ben 10 universe has always had aliens, mutants, magic, cryptics, demons, gods, etc, Alien Force was the only series that tried to posh the "everything is an alien" concept but even it drops that by season 3. Ultimate Alien even has an entire arc based around an Lovecraftian Elder God.
I think max's heatblast would have smth like a dimmer shorter flame on his head to indicate that "his fire is slowly going out" (didnt mean for it to sound so dark but u get the point)
Dark because Max's flames are smaller, meaning less light. Nice double entendre
In some cartoon network promo a elder Pyronite is shown, its flames are dimmer and blue.
But make him able to shine brighter indicating his experiences
More like volcanic rock then lava and less dexterity do to having stiff rocky limbs
@@lilylopnco Then wtf is a red giant star
In 4:44 we can see that the damage from diamondhead on his arm was also mistakenly used for Kevin's diamondhead arm then disappears right after .
That's a FANTASTIC find!
Have to say, what a sharp eye
Kuro at the end of the series should calculate how much money has grandpa max spent on fuel.
He did not do that
@@thatonedude1103 I know quite sad
That'd take quite a bit of research and calculation. First of all, gas prices rise and fall fairly often (currently we're on a rise cause of that stupid pipeline incident), so you can't just check your 2021 local gas station price and slap it in the equation, you would have to go back to the years Ben 10 was made (the 2000s). Second, every state has different average prices on gas (probably because of difference in taxes) and as gas station companies are always in competition with one another, each station has different prices to compete with other local stations.
@@christianbryan6961 or maybe rust bucket is designed to not use gasoline
@@Eric-py8yy pretty sure there were one or two episodes where they had to stop and refuel at a gas station or mentioned stopping at a gas station
20 seconds in and Kuro already noticed so much more than me
To be honest i was just 7 when watching this so yeah i only wanted the fights
@@zean6105 man I just rewatched the series like 2 months ago and watched that one multiple times since it’s one of my favorites and still never saw those pyronites and other things
I saw the pyronite in the beginning but none of the other 2 aliens
@@megafox3753 wow you re-watched the whole series?
One thing I love about Omniverse is how welcoming Ben is to aliens, and how the show depicts so much aliens as just people living their lives. Like, in Omniverse you totally would get Technorg as a recurring character who likes hanging out with Ben. Ben's best friend in that show is an alien.
Don't forget him threatening forever nights for hunting innocent aliens including piers in ultimate alien.
Bens best friend is an alien in all of the series
@@youcher ... Okay, but Gwen and Kevin are human passing.
And he's actually open to eating some alien food sometimes in that one.
Omniverse did significantly better on the world building. If we could change history I'd love to see the world where they keep the franchise more consistent and care more about the world building like Omniverse had.
never seen a so talented fan this invested and passionate towards ben 10. we need more fans like you in the ben 10 fandom, kuro.
Facts
Or aby fandom really
@@elvenatheart982 yeah, but many other fandoms are big while ben 10 fandom is kinda small.
Absolutely!
@@diamond_dude1063 I'd like to say the Ben10 is so underrated my old school nobody watched Ben10 they just watched Dragon Ball, DC, Marvel, Pokemon and shit
I always loved how scared ben is when he first turns into wildvine. His scared expression as the green flash covers him. And how it looks like he trying to rip his body apart to get his head out. Really plays into the race’s nature in secret of the omnitrix
I never noticed that
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My theory with Kevin 11’s grey matter parts is that it’s what keeps him sane.
According to the Kevin lore (at least the Osmosian, not sure about the mutant version) it says the more they absorb the more unstable they become.
I think grey matter’s mental strength is what kept the little boy in the body of 10 aliens painfully merged together cohesive enough to still be himself.
Never thought of it that way, thanks for the headcannon, probably means that Brainstorm is also what kept Kevin sane in Ultimate Alien.
Considering how they're known around the galaxy as mercenaries, it makes sense that Volcanus, SixSix and the lot don't appear that often on Earth.
"Remember what he did to Phil" is so funny out of context 😂
I always thought Kevin's own mindset and anger actually hindered his ability with those kinds of powers
Maybe his Grey Matter intelligence allows him to control all the powers
His Ghost Freak power allows him to be light enough to fly
Maybe he used his Wildmut power to track them down before the episode started
I honestly thought that the reason the Omnitrix turned Ben into Wildvine is yes, because of the fungi king but for a different reason like, it turned Ben into Wildvine to help UNDERSTAND the fungi king! Maybe to converse with it and resolve the situation peacefully? Evident that that wasn't gonna work out.
I like this theory because it caters to the "I created the Omnitrix so that all species can understand one another" idea.
Also another "observation" I made. I think Kevin's goo is flammable is because it's like a compound. It's missing a vital compound to make it non-flammable. Like Ben said, each of Kevin's powers is 1/10th of Ben's which explains why it couldn't even hold Ben for more than 10 seconds but original stinkfly's goo stopped Vilgax for a good amount of time
But if the original stinkfly's goo isn't flammable, how did Ben manage to teach Kevin that explosive goo trick?
@@natanaelsantos3924 If memory serves, Ben saw a bit of fire hit some of the goo on the ground and saw it ignite.
Fun fact: the walking mushrooms are one of the only unnamed species from the classic series. They also share Wildvine's home planet, which may have something to do with unlocking him? One of the aliens from the character designers' Go Fund Me last year was Funguy who is a member of this species, his only described power is he emits laughing spores from his arms, which makes his name even more fitting.
@Siboniso Buthelezi true. They could be related however, as there are many different types of mushroom, so there could be many different types of the species?
I've never understood why Ben and Gwen dislike each other so much. Before the road trip, they barely interacted and they don't even go to the same school.
If you were a true Ben 10 watcher you would know the very last episode they went to the same school
@@nokizzey5985 no. Gwen joined Ben's school after the vacation
@@nokizzey5985 That episode isn't canon.
@@nokizzey5985 he's saying, that before the road trip, Ben and Gwen hardly / never talked. Hes saying it's crazy that family that didn't even talk to eachother have a deep hatred for eachother since the roadtrip started. He's not talking about the last episode, he's talking about the road trip.
@@vetarlittorf1807 yeh
Camp fear and marvel zombies are truly the only things I’ve actually ever feared.
Me 2
What about the flood from halo
What is so scary with Marvel Zombies? LMAO nothing with them is scary same with Dceased
@@omegadeadpool4987 I was a child when I first found out about it.
@@trueassassin1562
Oh, still not so scary if you ask me,
Now I always rationalized Max’s character regression in “Ultimate Weapon” was the result of him falling back into the headspace of when he was originally on this case. He used to be surrounded by people who knew the same things he did and how grave that sword would be, so mentally he was no longer on a road trip with his grandkids, but back in his plumber days with a team. However he was much more oblivious than I remembered so I think if anything they played that mentality up way too much.
So Max had a form of PTSD? 😮
@@danielsurvivor1372with all the s*** he's gone through in his career, how would he not have PTSD?
5:18 I always figured this was what the Grey Matter "perk" was; The increased intelligence from that alien having enabled him to adapt to his new, very different body so much in such little time. Ben says that each specific alien's powers that Kevin's using is individually weaker than the same from Ben's pure aliens as basically a trade-off for having all of them at once, so it'd make sense that the intelligence boost would be significantly less pronounced in Kevin's case, and getting used to his crazy mutated alien hybrid body with 5 extra limbs, flight, pyrokinesis, and ghost powers, that ain't easy without some high spec mental ability.
“Careful Tiny that’s how you get canceled”
*Tetroman grooms child: 10 years old*
“Every time we pose you gotta move my cape” I swear Kuro is like secretary hilarious. I’m glad he’s doing these reviews.
Secretary huh?
You have GOTTA do a good tier max counter, like every time he “activates god mode” aka dodging lasers jumping around and other crazy stuff that you wouldn’t an old man to do.
Yeah stuff like the acid sheilds in the tick episode always made me think Max was just pretending to be old
Max uses Creative Mode
Imagine in “war of the worlds” when Ben called in all of his favours he called in the Galactic enforcers
Well wouldn't that have been something. Shame that the writers there didn't consider it, but in-universe, I tossed it as they being occupied with the HighBreed invasion on other planets.
Edit: maybe a good take on your ideea would have been to see, after the Armada was called back to their planet, we do get to see some planets celebrating their retreat with the Enforcers alongside them
@@alexhuduma9474
Yeah
Maybe that was the case
@@alexhuduma9474 There were Highbreed invasions on other planets? I know Galvan Prime was destroyed, but I though that only Earth had a jump gate, and it was the staging point of a universal invasion.
@@alexhuduma9474 Remimds me of Captain Marvel in Endgame
@@e3nethan910 Many planets were invaded , Highbreads think they are the og race in universe and other species are bellow them
I was always curious at how kevin never had the intelligence of greymatter but with how kevin's powers are 1/10 of ben's, even if greymatter had an IQ of like 1000 kevin would still have only average intelligence. Pretty funny
Yeah maybe some additon to his IQ
"One plus zero, still one"
-Ben Probally
Ben needs to get a restraining order on Tiny, or Max needs to get one for him
EDIT: Now that I think about it, maybe that's actually why we barely ever see them again
I think she and that psychic enforcer got together at the end, hence why she said, "I found a new partner." That being said, the idea of Max and/or Ben getting a restraining order is hilarious.
@@johnnygyro2295 And then Kevin pawns the Tetramand Princess off on Ben.
Wouldn't Tiny be able to tell if a member of her own species is young?
Ben turns into that species equivalent of a 10-11 year old so wouldn't Tiny notice that?
I guess it wouldn't matter if Tetramands don't have any morals against that but I doubt the writers would ever make that a thing in any way.
Grudge match is honestly my favorite episode of this season, love the Diamond Head fight at the start and one liners there. Then seeing Ben teach Kevin about his powers was amazing, and what we could have seen if Kevin decided to join the team in his first episode. Finally, then with the cannon ball fight *chef kiss*
It was the first episode of Ben 10 that I ever saw, so it will always have a special place in my heart.
*Cannonbolt.
@@johnivanoplimo5172 Autocorrect is a bitch 🤷♀️. Also, don't really think there was a need for you to correct that type of mistake lol
@Red 64....do you have any good website or app where I can watch the whole series for free from the classic to omniverse
@@sahilebrahim2294 watchcartoononline.com is a pretty good one
Keep in mind that, even if they were old man, the Omnitrix always picks prime examples of that species. Just like there are plenty of humans that can be very fit on old age (like Max himself), then it's not too farfetched to think that plenty, if not most of Max's aliens would still be very capable.
The wrestling one always reminded me of the Planet Hulk storyline.
Me too
I mean, him doing a lifeform scan on planets for the best fighters makes sense for why they got picked up, because not only is Kevin a freakish monstrosity, but each of Ben's Aliens are noted to be the peak condition of their species, the absolute best of the best while remaining still the same species
This Apex of species is only a omniverse thing
@@Eric-py8yy that's not how canon works.
And even without the "best of the best" part, Diamondhead is a Petrosapian, a species brought down to only two specimen: Tetrax and Ben. So it makes sense for why he was picked.
I thought , his aliens were from species with abilities that can be actually considered a super powered
Take bats , they have echo location which can be usefull for humans . But thats not enough to be a combat suited species .
Most ben 10 aliens are like super heroes . They are strong and durable . Some can fly even though its not their primary power .
@@uvindukulathunga3860Nah, any sentient species can be in the omnitrix. The only reason Ben has all the super-powered ones is for the plot. You could argue that most of the planets are dangerous enough to warrant all the aliens being super-powered, though.
I forgot Vulkanus appeared in the original series. I only really remember him from that Taydenite episode in Alien Force.
I like how Technorg is the same species as Vulkanus. Seeing "prominent" characters share a species always feels nice.
The biggest Ben 10 mystery is, how the heck did Enoch survive the ending of Ultimate Weapon?
Makes more sense than Ghostfreak surviving “Be Afraid of the Dark” or Eon surviving “Ben 10,00 Returns”
@@skibot9974 I disagree because if Ghostfreak had one contingency plan incase of his demise, chances are he'd have several more. And Eon is also a pretty smart guy, he was able to defeat hundreds of versions of Ben Tennyson, clearly he would have a backup plain to if one defeated him. Enoch tho, he's just human. The Forever Knights don't have tech that can revive the dead.
@@LeviChurch but paradox stated that Eon WAS ERASED FROM THE TIMELINE
@@skibot9974 I always thought that Eon actually died in that episode and every other appearance of Eon in omniverse is a younger version of him who doesn't know when he is going to die kind of like maltruent being stuck in a time loop
I'm convinced that whoever named the different species of aliens on this show are legit scientists because they sound as real as anything you'd hear in real life.
I feel like Rex's nanites would be a better fit for Grandpa Max.
But how would he even get that?
@@luongmaihunggia its a theory olso we saw ben could go to rex's universe so ben could have just taken max to rex and they could have ejected rex's nanite into max
@@zean6105 in Generator Rex, Rex is the only one with his power for a reason you know.
@@luongmaihunggia ye i do but a theory is a theory
@@luongmaihunggia Yeah, the Omega Nanite. Or the Alpha one, one of the two. It's the only reason he has full control if I remember right
max’s willingness to let people literally die is a bit out of character, however it’s something that’s consistent within the other series too. like in UA when ben says he’s going to kill Kevin, Max says he’d do it but that it’s not something Ben would do. i might be paraphrasing a bit, but it’s something i just noticed
"I don't know who to ask this to, so I'm just going to make sure I'm looking at all of you." I'M CRYING
I think Grudge Match did the whole 'The Villain and Hero have to work together!' Plot a tad early. This is the first time we've really seen Kevins mutated form, it feels like there should've been at least one other time we see him like that before this episode? Idk. Loved the episode as a kid, and stil do 👍
well we saw his mutated form the last time he was here......he just didnt really get to use it
12:04 The first appearance of the Omnitrix's infamous failsafe, interesting to see how it evolved from instant recharges to automatic transformations
I feel like Cannonbolt has the ability to compress his body to a smaller size to increase his speed when in ball form. In the game, Protector of Earth, he has that one move where he compresses until he implodes. But it’s just a random thought.
I think Stinkfly has different variations of his acid, kinda like how spiders have 13 different variations of their silk that comes from the spinaret, each made in its own chamber. Stinkfly may have something similar for producing his varying acids.
I think Ben didn't have access to a water transformation so that is why stinkflys slime can explode, be sticky, be slimy, be electric conductive and put out fires. Original 21 Aliens all had other powers. Wildvine camouflage, bombs and tunneling. Four arms sound, earth and Super strength(and fire resistance).
Upgrades Lazer and short teleport. Even heatblasts short teleport(the building on fire he teleports 2 humans without burning)
Where ultimate there's chromastone one power, lone Star more like LAME.
Thinking about Frankenstrike. HiS has superintelegence, electric powers, tech control and strength. I mean who cares about benwolf or upgrade or grey matter or even fourarms. That's the alien.
In Grudge match, I'm surprised that none of the aliens attempted to straight up kill wand eat ben. In the animated ben 10 film, the diamond head stated that humans were a Delicacy. But whatever.
Maybe they knew the guard guys would have stepped in to stop them? Probably wouldn't like people eating their gladiator participants.
Or try to steal the Omnitrix. Screw a delicacy when the most powerful weapon exists and its right there lol.
@@lucario2able they would have to try and sever his arm off. The blast that would result from them trying to take it of somehow would cause severe to fatal damage to all of them except Kevin or Ben, since the Omnitrix would try and keep him alive for as long as possible.
Not to mention, the blast would most likely cause some heavy damage to the room if they were in a corridor or something.
@@dregmek Yea idc. These aliens done know what happens if they try to take it from Ben. It's just I feel they could overlook the human delicacy part since they saw him using the omnitrix. I think they would choose to attempt that as opposed to eating him. I didn't say they would successfully do it. Just that they would try.
@@lucario2able again like other said teh guards prob would stop them thus they think it wouldn't be worth it or didn't really care for the omnitrix not everyone obsessed has vilgax is with the watch
3:35 his most famous quote is -
“ you have to treat a car just like you treat a woman “
Gwen: ...go on
@@axelnilsson5124Kevin: …no. I sense I've made a mistake of some kind.
Honestly I'd wanna see a Detrovite transformation for 5 Years later based on this guy's design, seeing as we know he's the same species as Vulcanis so it'd be super interesting to see a similar transformation, Armor and even an club or mace like object as a weapon. IDEAS FOR THE INK TANK
I’d read that
Would have been fun to see Ben fighting more gods (other than celestial sapiens) like the greek or the ones that guarded the sword and see where the aliens stack up.
Kind of like a technology vs magic type thing or divine.
Cool
Great now I want to see Ben dropkick a god
@@duxhunt in human?
Pues osea si existen los extraterrestres la magia una especie de meta humanos e incluso otros universos también deberían existir dioses
I love that you watched this because people seem to forget that one time that Ben and Kevin not only went to space but, for the first time, they worked together, and he kicked Kevin into space and yet Travis episode is still underrated. It’s nice to see somebody appreciate it.
I think the reason Wildvine was unlocked is a point towards Omnitrix having some form of sentience as it knew Ben couldn’t handle the situation with his arsenal so it gave him a new tool.
If I had to guess, Stinkfly's goop can swap between being flammable or not. He has 4 bits to shoot out of after all. I think it works like this:
He can make a sticky but non-flammable version. That when shot at flames snuffs the oxygen and puts out the fire.
But when shooting the 2nd varient, it can catch fire. Or maybe if gets set on fire *after* being shot out it's flammable but because it was shooting smaller active flames it easily removed the oxygen
I wanna say that when Ben returned and it seemed like only a small amount of time passed- well the reason is probably because the ship was rapidly moving away from earth the entire time and space time is known to be wonky when these distances are traveled. I'm not exactly sure how it works but it is just a decent excuse as to why they didn't have to change scenes on earth.
Also in the pop-ups of "Secrets of the Omnitrix" it was clearly explained that Incarcecon (which is a prison for aliens since the Null Void tech is only exclusive to plumber) was made by the first version of the Galactic Enforcers 500 years the series
I love the offhand commentary you put into these videos like "ben's a weeb" "look at the road" "lol roasted"
18:33 “Ben’s a weeb”
Best quote in the whole video
Oh man, when I did my watchthrough, I was so excited that Tom Kane was using his grandiose Star Wars Narrator voice. I was not pleased when Jeff Bennett replaced him
Lol
Considering how consistently inconsistent they make Canonbolt's size I just head-canon that Canonbolt can alter his size within a certain range especially in ball form. Either he curls up more tightly making him denser for harded hits or he has a far less pronounced version of Humungaour's size ability.
I used to think trechnorg and the vulcanus were the same person. I think the reason is it's the exact next episode and we are not shown if his wrecking ball arm is just a cover over an arm and we assume it's just a suit thing for both (e.g. the spikes and cover and for technorg the wrecking ball has his hand inside).
I think if they were going to do this kind of story with Max, it should have been over something more genuinely world-shattering, like the Annihalargh or something of a similar scale.
I’ve always liked how Ultimate Weapon moves away from the alien thematic, for the series, the pumblers and the Forever Knights. Going after supernatural stuff.
"in hopes we meet again someday."
"Which they never do. 🤔... Future doesn't count."
So when is "someday"? In the past?
It doesn't count beacuse that timeline doesn't exist anymore
The Tennyson's strength is actually because their part alien
Even Max?!
@@foisopracurtir6389how else is he able to hit it with the alien ladies
i can’t stress enough about how much i love this series. it’s so cool :)) i like the whole layout of it all. i enjoy the start where kuro gives us updates, the breakdowns, comparing my rating with his, and the conclusion. i always want more. i love the direction you’re taking things :))
I don’t just love the series I love the channel
Right?? Feels like we get to hang out with Kuro and watch the show with him
I think the reason that Galvanic Mechamorph was gray instead of green was due to age.
"But what about Grandpa Max, he was still green?"
My theory is GM's live way longer than humans (obviously), so if they hit a certain age range they start to dull in their green color to a blueish-gray.
I was really jealous of kids who had young parents who could learn how to set up internet game access. Alas, fusion fall will forever be a fantasy for me lol
I just realized they retconned Vulcanus’ true form. He looks like a buff guy underneath his suit in the classic series, but he’s actually a dwarf in UAF
Pretty much
Never understood why they did that
@@The_Punisher maybe turned vulkanus into a joke, in AF
Maybe he got turned into a newt?
Wasn't he decapitated and regrowing his body?
I was so confused about how Kevin came back, I always thought that I missed an episode or something, for there is nothing about how it looked like he died last time and no explanation of how he found them or anything like it
Dont forget they dropped him into water. He has RIP jaws who is aquatic as well as super strength and durability so a fall wouldn't kill him so easily in the ocean.
@@rushalias8511 One thing that was better about old ben ten was there was no best alien they each had a function, and worked in different situations, in the new one there was a strongest and some felt flat out better or worse
@@daraghokane4236 Exactly, And a Problem with the Newer ones is that since some Aliens can Basically do Everything, You just Question why Ben just dont use them everytime
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 you also question why he picks some since they have aliens who are functionally the same in some cases. Like why pick wildmutt if you have rath or why pick Ditto if you have echo echo
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 Like echo is dido but better. The crab alien is gray matter but better
Wish alien X stayed unreliable best and worst alien to balance it out. It would be a ironic ending to villgax if he gets the watch goes alien X and says give me an army they both go no release me they both go no and he is traped by the thing he always wanted
66 Is usually some frail opponent for Ben which is just more of a irritation than a threat, but in this episode all his tricks with his suit which we never see again made him OP. I would've liked to see this version of him more.
3:32, can we appreciate this exchange between Ben and Kevin.
The mycelium had so much potential, absolutely the coolest idea present, too bad they never followed up
I thought Kuro was joking, but damn these have been great and I look forward for UAF and Omniverse
I’m anticipating the Aggregor and Ultimate Kevin arc, that’ll be amazing
Not for omniverse tho
@@kenyansimpo7356 ESPECIALLY for omniverse
Tini was basically the only Tetramand to love Four Arms the only other one being Looma Red Wind from Omniverse.
Still weird it happened twice.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I mean since Ben turns into the prime version of his alien species then Four Arms must look very attractive to the female Tetramands
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 If I had a nickel for every time a Tetramand flirted with Ben, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
@@1manApocalypse_CP
We only got 2 females
@@randomuser5443 3 considering Gwen 10 Four arms,4 if we are counting Looma Mom
That moving texture on the crowd was a lot like what they did in Citizen Kane, where, for the famous tracking shot of the crowd, they had a matte painting, but, to add in motion, they moved a piece of paper underneath slits they made in the painting. Just thought it was a neat detatil
"I can do everything but only once"
Maybeye Six Six reaoly dose have a limited amout of ammo/energy for his equipment?
He has too much time everytime Six Six appears considering he doesn't appear every episode let alone a row of episodes
It always bothered me that fungi are treated like plants in this episode, when they are closer to animals
20:48 The Galvans wrote the laws for the galaxy. It's mentioned when Vilgax becomes the conqueror of 10 worlds in Alien Force. Though I find it shady that they made it legal to conquer planets as long as you defeat their strongest champion, clearly the Galvans shouldn't be trusted if they wrote that into law.
Actually it's pretty smart I mean if the made it illegal to conquer planets it wouldn't be taken seriously because war is pretty much inevitable due to many reasons this way however would minimise the violence at the very least.
When Grandpa Max said, almost last the mask.
MY INSTANT REACTION;HOLEY SHIT
Max: get out of there
Forever Knight: No my Dust sword
We totally learn more about the Mycelium. In Secrets of the Omnitrix, planet Zenon (or Xenon) where Asmath is hanging out, the planet is covered in mushrooms that were clearly an invasive species since there's buildings and tech left behind. This also gives us the reason behind Wildvine's appearance. This alien Mycelium must be interconnected with Wildvine DNA, given that Wildvines (rather savage and animalistic Wildvines) live on the planet and capture Gwen, to the extent that Ben even thought she was dead. My theory is that those Walking mushrooms are just the early stages of the Mycelium takeover on Earth, sort of a fodder force to keep surface beings busy until the spores can be released into the atmosphere, whereupon the planet can be seeded and perhaps these spore could even leave the planet outright either in this release or in future stages wherein the cycle repeats until the planet is covered. Wildvines may be one of the later stages of this fungal takeover. No longer needing a mere distraction force and instead evolving actual warriors to defend the primary Mycelium. Which is maybe what the Omnitrix was able to scan from the DNA of the fungus around Ben, this warrior form, or rather just the adolescent form, given that Ben's transformations are also tied to his own human maturity.
There are of course holes in this theory, given that the wiki's list Wildvine's species and home planet on Flors Verdance. Not to mention Omniverse characters. But I thought my explanation could have some merit in the Flourana evolution anyway.
Pretty creative and i can fill this hole with sometimes like it's a subspecie
"What matters is you're family"
Dom Toretto would be proud
I need a dweeb counter
Also wildvine was severely underused
And there is so much others haven’t thought to use it
Wildvine in general felt so much more powerful and versatile in his first appearance. After that he kind of just feels like just a stretchy guy.
Wildvine was forgotten in Season 4 unfortunately
Most of the new aliens aside from Cannonbolt were VERY underused
@@fresh10 same for the monster trio aliens etc
Can we just appreciate how if the omnitrix were to malfunction horribly ben could have been mutated to look loke keven 11
That happened in the reboot
@@mackdane8601 But the head got off that and was played for laughs
"All three Tennysons use their infinite strength, not even four arms could've done that"
45:20
It's crazy how the episode implies that the whole thing with them looking for the sword lasted 2 days at most. But if the sword is a Mayan artifact, the temple should've been located somewhere South of Mexico, maybe near the mexican peninsula. Do you have any idea how far that is? It should've taken them about a week or more to cover that distance in the rust bucket.
"We need Sugar,Spice and everything nice" what a Ben 10 Tribute
And the secret ingredient, tetramand dna
9:30 Maybe since Kevin’s alien powers are weaker than Ben’s, his stinkfly slime is flammable because its weaker than normal stinkfly slime
Nice theory They would make more sense than it being flammable it wa stated that kevin is 10% of every alien of the first 10 is I think that is how it works? I think
Seeing as we never see Stinkfly use flammable slime, it does make more sense that the flammable slime is a Kevin specific thing, like a side effect of his mutation.
@Tony tones He didn't just know that, he saw Kevin's slime ignite which told him that it was flammable.
I don't see why ben would just know that though
@@xavmanisdabestest he literally saw some slime combust from contact with fire
Wildvine is underrated
This.
I love him so much.
You should start a "Tennyson family strength" tally given how often it happens
11:26 i remember seeing that scene and thinking "o dam hes gonna-" then he just gets smacked for ben to control again
Made me laugh so damn hard, and its still funny
"We know that Ultimate Weapon takes place in Mexico"
> marks the gulf instead of the land
Glad Grudge Match got a 24/25 ngl, definitely one of my favourite episodes also I love these breakdowns in general, can't wait to see what I missed in Secrets of the omnitrix (It will be reviewed, right?)
legitimately love how your cat always gets in these vids haha.
And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Wildvine's introduction deserved a bit more screentime
9:33
I believe the way it worked is that it sort of splattered and covered the fire, cutting off the oxygen to keep it ignited whereas if the goo was to be ignited by a fully active fire it would ignite. But that's just me thinking
The real question is, is Ascalon the real sword that was rumored to be there? It fits the whole holding the fate of the human race thing pretty well, and it is a sword. Also why the Forever Knights would be so interested, because their history is intertwined with that of Ascalon.
This is my thoughts exactly. Hearing a sword that could level cities felt on brand. St. George died in 303ce irl. The Maya civilization existed c250-1697ce. So the sword could reasonably have influenced the myth. Especially since George is in America in UA.
Of course, this assumes the 5,000 year old claim of the sword is completely fabricated
Camp Fear could take place between Kentucky and Mississippi, based on the animated details of the forest, then picking up on the Mayan//Mexico episode next, they're passing through Louisiana...
How tf did i forget these came out on fridays
So did 153 people forget like me
Same lol
Fr I was just reading some Beastars completely tuned it out
Lol I never realised
@@JMPGX Saaaame
I was crawling on the ground so i got reruns
18:23 I thought the same ultra-Ben design was used in the dream episode, but maybe they removed the hair spikes, idk, but worth checking anyways
i think my dream ben 10 show would be like a 13 year old ben whos more caring about his hometown and is less universe saving and more friendly neighbourhood hero
YES 50 minutes of this 😭😭
Man this is so cool being apart of these breakdowns voting and contributing
18:58: welp, looks like me and my friends have a new drinking game, every time Ben's eyebrow color changes, take a shot.