Re-railing NC&Stl. Steam Locomotive 576
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- čas přidán 17. 01. 2019
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Nasvhille Steam Preservation Society in cooperation with Mammoet moved one of Nashville, TN's biggest treasures: locomotive 576. After years of preparation, the day finally arrived for the dedicated NSPS team to move locomotive 576 out of the Centennial Park where it has sat for mroe than 6 decades. 576 now rests on tracks connected to the network that it will one day pull excursion trains. With your continued support, 576 will be moved to the Tennessee Central Railway Museum where she will be carefully restored to serve Nashville as a fantastic tourist attraction by carrying excursion passengers on the Nashville and Eastern railroad from Riverfront Park in downtown Nashville east through Donelson, Mount Juliet, Lebanon, Watertown, Cookeville, and even Monterey up on the Cumberland plateau.
This video shows the re-railing operation following the 10,000ft over road move from Centennial Park to the Nashville and Western railroad. Other than pulling the locomotive a few feet at a time and rolling it onto the trailer, this is the first time 576 has traveled in 65 years, and also her first turn. You can really feel 576 breaking loose as she is very tenderly maneuvered into the siding. You can see the many layers of white paint of the wheels shatter and chip off as she rolls through the switch. At the end of this video, the locomotive was carefully retreated after you hear one of the old rails of the siding began to protest and give. The next day the old rail was further re-enforced and the locomotive was reunited with the tender on the siding. - Zábava
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Unbelievable how easy she rolled after sitting all those years, that has to be a sign of her future performance. great video
The effect of roller bearings, being an all roller bearing locomotive. I recently read more info about this locomotive and her class, they were really good locomotives.
They also put a lot of work in over 3 years on the locomotive so that it would move easily.
This locomotive has been part of my life since I was 7 years old and my granddad took me to see it, freshly enshrined in Centennial Park. He was an L&N engineer and delighted in teaching me all about this giant. Over the years, we visited her often, then I took my own children, and my grandchildren to see her. Ever since I sat in the engineer’s seat that first time in 1953, I dreamed about seeing it thunder down the rails again. I hope I live to see it finished and ride behind this icon of my childhood.
My grandfather Benjamin 'Boots' Jordan was an engineer for L&N and a fireman for NC&StL. I have a picture on my wall of him hanging out of the cab of NC&StL 559. He took me for a ride once at Union Station.
dljordan My granddad, Emmett Miller, worked for L&N from 1908 to 1959. He was 15 when he hired on. His first job was as a “call boy”. In 1908, not everyone had a telephone, so when the crew scheduler needed someone from the extra board, he would send a kid on a bicycle to go knock on his door. When he could, he got on as a fireman and worked his way up to engineer. He didn’t like to be gone overnight, so he always bid on local freight and switching jobs, usually second shift. BLE union rules wouldn’t let him work past 65, so he retired 2 weeks before his 66th birthday. As a boy I often went with him on Saturday morning when he would go down to the paymasters office in Union Station to get his check, then across the street to the NC&StL building to the company watchmaker to have his watch regulated. He was a man who thoroughly enjoyed his job and couldn’t imagine doing anything else.
Norman I feel ya, my dad railroaded for 60 years, starting in the 724th T.R.O.B. during the Korean war to the PRR to Amtrak retiring as Station manager Penn station Newark. He loved the rails and though I chose a different route his love of trains especially steam was passed to me. I just wish he lived long enough to see 4014 back under steam
@@mfee2079 Much less a new PRR T1 completed, for sure!
For a locomotive that has been still for many years.It rolls pretty good they must have looked after this locomotive.They did a real good job moving it.I hope they put it inside a building.
Seeing a these beauties return too use is a wonderful thing. They represent man's engineering capabilities.
Im so glad that many Steam locomotives are coming back the more, the merrier. We lost far to many, Far to quick. I hope one day well have an Oskosh type event for steam from all the major railroads and small groups to bring their engines out. Make Railroading Great Again!
I was there for lift off, and now it's touch down! 576 is back on the tracks! Don't know why a piece of machinery makes me feel the way it does. Thanks a heap for this re-track video.
Take good care of her guys she is a great piece of American History!
She feels the track beneath her wheels
Her cross heads yearn to slide
She waits for fire within her soul
She knows she's yet alive
its so good to see people care about restoring and running these again, it's a real work of brilliant engineering these monstores if syeel power. I'm always amazed at some of the clever design integration that made it all work..and back before electricity even.
Can't wait to see this beauty under Steam and thundering down the rails. Also Jason looks really happy.
Great thing these people are doing. Saving railroad history!
I was born in Lebanon in 1952. My mother had 4 brothers in the military and a sister. They all had 2-4 kids and I had a brother. By the time I was at least 5yrs old when they came to visit we would head to Nashville. Visit the Hermitage and the rest of the day at Centennial Park. We would play on the train and back then there was the hull of a plane too. I'm assuming a WW11 plane. Not sure. Our parents would teach us all about the train. I can't wait to go visit my old friend. I'm just thrilled. And so glad it didn't wind up in the "graveyard". Thank you to all involved in preserving this piece of our history.
Love to see steam locomotives restored...an important part of American history!
A "Yellow Jacket" returns to the rails- YEAH!!
WOW, WHAT CHILDHOOD MEMORIES!!!!# I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN HILLS PARK GA. IN THE RAILROAD COMMUNITY NEXT TO THE NC& STL AND SOUTHERN RAILWAY YARDS 7 MILES NORTH WEST OF DOWNTOWN ATLANTA!!! I HAD THE EXPERIENCE. AS A CHILD AND TEANAGER OF RIDING THIS ENGINE, MAIL CARS , CABOOSES , DINING CARS AND SLEEPING CARS!!! IT WAS A FANTASTIC CHILDHOOD,AND TEENAGE EXPERIENCE , AND I WOULD NOT TRADE IT FOR A MILLION$$$. MY. DAD WAS GEN. CHAIRMAN OF THE BROTHERHOOD OF RAILROD TRAINMEN DURING THE 100 YEAR CENTENNIAL OF THE RUNNING OF " THE GENERAL" AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF RIDING IT ALSO!!! TO SUMMERIZE MY " GROWING UP" I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERY CHILD & TEENAGER EXPERIENCE. " RIDING THE RAILS " ONE TIME. MY LAST "BIG RIDE" WAS "RIDING THE RAILS " FROM ATLANTA TO SAN DIEGO CAL. TO "BOOT CAMP" IN THE U.S. NAVY. WOW !!!! WHAT CHILDHOOD MEMORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great vid - thank you!!!!! No.576 will be whistling loud in her dreams again, knowing she's on her way back to full health and full operation!! Soooo good to see this old girl back on rails that connect to an operational rail line!!!!
this steam locomotive in operation will bring back some interest much needed in to railroad and bring many people back united together and give a new life to american railroads witch have a less environmental impact to any other transport , we all hope to see this beautiful iconic locomotive in steam and alive again
Railroads haul more freight long haul than do semi's. And while you are correct that the environmental impact of railroads is far less than other transport steam locomotives pollute far more than any other means of conveyance. Today's environmentalists would be appalled by how much toxic smoke was pumped in to the air by steam locomotives back when they were all their was & or electric were confined to big cities commuter traffic.
@@jasonplatco7881 which is completely untrue if man was not on this plant there be more carbon in the atmosphere from volcanos are poping of all over and diesel is far more polluting the steam we have done the tests
@@jasonplatco7881- "Modern" (1943) coal fired steam locomotives like this J3 and its predecessor J2 normally produced no to very little visible smoke. Most of the visible exhaust was steam and water from hydrocarbon combustion condensed into visible water vapor.
For photo runs the fireman deliberately fires to produce black smoke for the photographers. Sanding the fire tubes that run through the boiler loosens soot built up in the tubes, which is blown out the stack.
Unburned carbon particulates settle quickly to the ground. Silica, which is fly ash, likewise settles to the ground, becoming clay dirt. Neither is good to inhale but they do not stay in the air for very long.
The greatest pollutant is carbon monoxide, which oxidizes from sunlight into carbon monoxide.
Bituminous coal contains bitumen, which is a hydrocarbon similar to petroleum. Most is burned, becoming carbon dioxide and water. A small part is incompletely burned, resulting in carbon monoxide.
Diesel locomotives, powered by high compression internal combustion engines, produce large quantities of nitrogen oxides, the major component of photochemical smog. Steam locomotives are external combustion engines, which are zero compression, produce no nitrogen oxides as the combustion temperature is not high enough to produce nitrogen oxides.
Anthracite coal is almost 100% carbon, which contains very little bitumen. It burns very cleanly producing very little soot. However locomotives like 576 will not burn pure anthracite, which requires a much larger firebox and grate area. Bituminous coal must be mixed with it.
@@annajeannettedixon2453 Can I assume the axles, wheels and drivers were oiled up and or greased before it moved?
anna jeannette Dixon American railroads are doing very well and have no need for “a new life,” whatever that is.
Several years ago. I watched a Steam Locomotive moved from the Museum Science and Industry in Chicago. They laid sections of track on city streets for several miles to the C.N. tracks. Along the way they made several 90deg turns. They even move the engine up a steep grade to the road bed.
Video move to CSX tracks look to be less than 1/2 mile.
This locomotive will be a wonderful sight to see once it has received it's full overhaul/ rebuild modifications, it would be nice to see another southeastern territory 4-8-4 engine resume operation for excursion services.
I had to work that morning when the locomotive was being driven down the street, but I have driven past it couple of times just to be nosy.
Hard to believe it’s been 4 years already
This video has nice music for the restoration movement of the steam locomotive.
So many memories of this great beauty fills the hearts and minds of so many Nashvillians and visitors. It was there for my entire life. Can't wait to see it running and revived!
Bravo et félicitations 👏👏à tous ces hommes qui prennent soins d’une si belle grand-mère 👏👏👏👏
She looks brand new like she just came out of the factory they did a good job refurbishing it.
It’s great to see old iron being used again🙂
Thank you for such a very well produced video. This was outstanding and you captured the care and dedication of everyone involved. Well done.
Thanks! There's a short and sweet version linked in the description that I think could pick up even more traction on social media. I'm so excited for the opportunity to work with this awesome team and be able to capture it to share with everyone.
Welcome to your new home ‘ol gal!
This is great to see!
Can't wait to buy my tickets for a ride out to Cookeville/Monterey.
I'm sitting here looking at my Grandfather hanging out of the cab of 559.
I am so sad that I missed this, and am so blessed that you made this video. Fantastic job recording, editing and sharing. Thank you!!!
My dream job is to become an Steam Engineer and own an steam engine running passengers or freight to their destinations. Think how cool it would be to see another steam back up and thundering down the rails!
The laborious people who love their work.
Thanks, I have been making some castings for this and it is nice to see what these are going on
I highly recommend visiting during an open house if one can be put together this late summer/fall, if not to see the locomotive project itself, then to listen to some of the experts talk about the incredible complexities of this locomotive and it's operation.
Great work, may the 576 run again soon!
Mammoet for the win...these guys are class of the field. They have some amazing videos on YT on some of the most difficult and challenging salvage operations ever completed, including raising the Russian nuke sub Kursk. Great job on the loco to all and thanks for keeping the era of steam alive and well.
My grandpa was an engineer on this engine. In 1952 he worked for Tennessee Central RR. I was 5 years old and rode from MonterayTn. to Nashville. The fireman was Mr Gotto and i dont remember the conductor. My ride was 108miles long.Grandpa,s name H. R. Howard. I think the conductor was Mr. Cotton.
Well done. Thank you for posting
Streamlined steam locomotives still in existence:
SP 4449
N&W 611
NC&SL 576
PRR 5550
That's it...
Wonderful video with information and nice coverage.
Kudos to all involved int this complex project.
Interesting that railroad stopped in my hometown and the rail office is still standing even though it’s now called the “Freight House Restaurant.”
Good luck retorting it to its former glory
Excellent good job
That is so cool where I live Coopersville has one that they use on train tracks three times a year
Great to see it all happen
The locomotive looks to be in great shape
it was painted before the move, all of the parts were cleaned prior to the painting as well. the team said they were doing all the cosmetic work before the move so they didn't waste any time for the restoration process. so after it is rebuilt, there will be no need to do all that once its pieced back together.
It rolls well for its age!
Roller bearings are great.
That's one heavy piece of machinery! Clean and shiny. Static boiler test next, if memory serves better than a few times in the last couple of years.
Check out the progress on the Nashville steam facebook page
Great video
Its beautiful to see a Beautiful steamengine like this one comming back on the rails.
#Steamengines
Great job Mammoet!
man what I wouldnt give to be doing what these guys do!!!
Hello fellow Ohioan!
@@bnsfbandit9807 Hey there...!
4:03. Interesting product placement.
Yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice
This will bring it to 5 operating northerns.
Are you certain it will be operating - In what capacity?
@@organbuilder272 they said they will restore it to where it can operate excursion trips.
@@organbuilder272 I am subscribed to their youtube channel and can safely say they have full intention of restoring it to operation and using it for NS excursions
@@kalvinchester4068 - It would be nice to have it running and even more so to have 4 of these interesting and versitile engine in operation. Let us hope that it will do more than drag passenger cars around. In 10 or 15 years it will need a refit again. It should be earning as much revenue as possible to make ready for that expensive day.
@@CoalChrome Hello: It is nice to have your assurance on this topic. But, as you and I and many others know, it all depends on money, facilities and determination to do it correctly without taking short cuts or deferring repairs or replacements that could and should be done while the engine is undergoing a major restoration - More likely - rebuild. It would be wonderful to see this and all other existing locomotives in revenue service. They did it once, they can do it again on short haul lines and limited service routes., earning both money and notoriety (Which raises money).
It's pretty rare for a locomotive to be transported by road in the US.
576 had to be moved by road because a park office building had been built on the path on which 576 was rolled into Centennial Park. A temporary track had been laid from the former NC&StL yards through where it sat for decades across to where the fighter plane was on display. The track was cut, straightened and the locomotive rolled back to where it was displayed for 60 years. The extra track was then removed.
It only happens when they are being moved to or from some museum or location where restoration might be carried out. SOmetimes there is no way to make a rail connection from the "Museum" to the main line where they travel in their natural environment.
Wicki says that move cost $500,000.00
Absolutely great video!...Would love to have seen the crane setup that initially lifted it onto the dolly.
I doubt they had a crane they probably jacked it up like they took it down, that engine probably weighs around 200 ton
Thank the Lord the iron giant 2 is here
Question did they deactivated the crossing when they did this? I can imagine how annoying the bell would be if it was on during the entire operation of rerailing.
very nice video,super. aha i see Mamoet,Dutch help is there.so as useall.
I really hope this locomotive along with UP's 4014's restoration are documented on video
Choo Choo Yah Yah !!!!
This video was uploaded the day before I turned 13!
Would have liked to have seen the crane(s) and sling/spreader bars that were used to lift it up off of the trailer.
No cranes, just Jacks :). It's all here if you look closely!
All jacks....wow.
Very slow, very tedious and a lot of attention to details....
The locomotive in running order is just over 200 tons. The fuel and water car (tender) is just over 142 tons loaded. These weights are not particularly large for a heavy lift company to handle.
@@algrayson8965 for an international company like Mammoet it was a walk in the park job (look at the other stuff they lift)...but then again you didn't see their bill for this lift.
It's gonna take lots of work to recertify that boiler.
The boiler was inspected some years ago and will not have to be replaced to be operated at a low pressure. Most excursion steam locomotives are not operated at original design pressure (576 is 300 psi) as efficiency is not a major concern. Heavy excursion trains usually have diesel-electric boosters.
@@algrayson8965.... Since when is 300psi "low pressure" for a steam locomotive? What year was the 576's boiler "inspected"....and how the heck did they manage to to that when it was sitting in static display... after decades of non use??
The UP 4014, 3985 & 844 all work at original working pressures.. which is 300 psi for the 4014 & the 844. The 3985 also worked at original operating pressure of 280 psi (until it was retired last year). Both the SP 4449 and the S.P.&S. 700 also work at the original operating boiler pressures of 300psi.
Any Steam locomotive that cannot be operated at normal / Maximum certified operating pressures for which it was originally designed, cannot pull a train on Any Class 1 Mainline trackage in the US.
In the case of steam locomotives (or even diesels) that are operating on privately owned Class 2 & 3 roads, then they are governed by FRA & AAR rules mandating maximum speeds... which would naturally dictated lower throttle settings on either type of locomotive, and
The Maximum boiler operating pressure for any steam locomotive was & is 300psi.... of course boiler operating pressures were (in steam locomotives) determined by locomotive size and needed tractive effort, potential drawbar hp requirements, type of coal being used (of the era), maximum train tonnage (per locomotive), ruling mainline gradient, etc, etc, etc.
As far as "diesel-electric boosters" are concerned... they are not there as a result of the size of the train (tonnage)... they are mandated when excursion Steam trains are run on Main-line routes, and according to ruling gradients on any particular division... and in that case, used primarily for dynamic braking, as well as for emergency in case of an extremely rare steam locomotive breakdown, so that mainline operations will not be hindered due to an otherwise tie-up of said mainline.
Is there a parking brake on a train that works when it is cold or does one have to chock it like an aircraft?
What as beast
so what will go in where this loco sat for 60 years?
While I appreciate a lot of close up shots to be able to see details, please please in the future, get wide shots that let us see what's going on!
For instance, you couldn't really see how the jack down was done, because it was all close ups of wheels and jacks, and nothing of the Mammoet equipment or how they got it off the transporter, or half the other interesting stuff.
It seems like railfans only care about the train, and love the closeups of the train, but some of us love the whole process, and the constant closeups feel like sitting with your face 6 inches from a TV.
I had a wide angle Lens on me, unfortunately other than the shot of the tender truck rolling over the camera, the cold zapped the only four batteries I brought for my second camera. This video does show just about everything though it does skip a bit of them dropping it off the wood blocks. They took a quick lunch, I took a longer one and missed that fairly quick drop.
@@SARGENTSCRUFY I was amazed by how little wheel surface actually touch the rails, and the size of a train to have such small flange, it wouldn't take much to jump the track, if you have any more videos of the wheels interacting with the rails please post, enjoyed the video.
@@ferdinandfrancis9673 The flange is the guide of last resort. Most of the wheel-to-rail alignment is due to the angled surface of the tyre. Amazing technology, all in all.
Exactly!
@@ferdinandfrancis9673 The wheel-rail contact is about the size of a US quarter as an oval shape. Go to Wikipedia and look up flanges and rail wheels; there is a pretty good commentary on the interaction with the rail.
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned as I have followed the progress of this project. Will she still be coal-fired or will she be converted to oil as Union Pacific chose to do when restoring Big Boy #4014?
Will definitely be restored as a coal burner. She has some really neat technologies that make coal burning really efficient.
Alex Mullins I assume you mean the stoker system, the over fire air jets, etc. I had hoped it would be kept as coal. Just the smell of steam and coal smoke is magic. I spent 8 years of summer weekends running a 15” gauge Crown 4-4-0 coal fired steam engine. That keeps you really busy, as you must drive and fire and keep an eye on the rowdy kids in the coaches all at the same time.
@@amtrakinoscale9811 It's not just the availability of coal that factors into such decisions. In areas prone to wildfires (California), coal would be a bad choice.
Im surprised they didn't have a shunter or something on hand to move this beast
looks like brand new
Good luck on this restoration! This would be a great addition to the live operating mainline steam locomotive family.
What is your operation goal? The USA 250th birthday is in 2026.
back in 1976 many RRs as you know painted up bicentennial locos.
the problem now is,,,,,,very few RRs left!
I saw/photoed both EL,DT&I,BRC,DTSL,Monongahela. my buddy saw the sp/cotton belt U25B. his brother saw the IC.
just before the july 4 1976 date, at clearing yard(BRC) in chicago, they assembled about 30 bicentennial engines from around the country for a photoshoot.
@@jeffreymcfadden9403 Yea, I remember 1976 very well. UPs bicentennial loco was the 951 for the Preamble Express.
Today, we have the BNSF, CSX, FEC, KCS, NS, UP, and a few regionals, beltlines, tourist lines, and shortlines, plus Amt and some commuter lines.
more steam locomotives needs to be given a second chance and a new life witch should bring folk back on the rail transport
Unfortunately, I believe the steam trains were over due to air pollution. I think it’s safe to say they won’t come back for around a good 5-10 years.
@@grobterm Coal emissions (or soot, I think), as I heard, fall to the ground, and not in the sky
But the noise pollution, is also a factor
@@grobterm Steam locomotives were long gone before emissions was even considered a factor since early diesel electrics were just as bad. It was mainly because of fuel and water consumption and maintenance costs. It required more people just to maintain and operate one than a diesel. However, it was said that steam locomotives haven't reached their full potential and were supposed to last another 30+ years. And with the right fuel and firing techniques, a steam locomotive can be clean and efficient. A steam locomotive at the Grand Canyon Railway was converted to burn waste vegitable oil which doesn't give off emission. The only time you'll see smoke from that engine is when sand is thrown in the clean the tubes. Another furl which might replace coal eventually is torrefied biomass.
@@grobterm as air pollution goes diesel is ten times more polluting the big boy and hears why there thousand of a diesel engine running were as very few steam running and steam is h/o2 steam exhaust and just a bit of carbon from the coal fire in nature you have thunder times this carbon if man was not here but man is here and chem trailing the place with toxins that are the causes of ill health not steam locos we have done the test as engineers
@@theextremeanimator4721- "Noise pollution?" From what?
I'm thinking,can the track hold that weight?
Locomotive. Show
Do steam locomotives come from the factory with spare wheels and jack so that if they have a blowout or flat, they can change it? I've never seen a steam locomotive with a flat and was wondering how they do it? }B-D "what the Fff!"
No spare wheels, they weigh too much to easily handle. The tires are steel and heated then shrunk on. Seeczcams.com/video/1Z4G7BMUCm8/video.html there are several other sites showing tires being put on wheels. The wheels can get flat spots on them if the wheel is moved without it rolling on the rail; that is abrasion.
WHERE IS THIS AT?
ALSO WHAT IS THE STORY ON THE AT&SF GE DIESEL? ANYONE KNOW THE ORIGINAL BUILD NUMBER?
nashville tn, and the U boat is owned by Nashville&Eastern railroad but has not ran in years not sure what its plans are.
Matt Corn HI MATT!
THX FOR RESPONSE ! I HAVE A LOT BETTER KNOWLEDGE NOW!
I HAVE SPENT A BIT OF TIME ON THE N& E !
I WAS THERE WITH THE NYC E-8
PAIR , THE 4080 AND 4068 WHEN THEY WERE LEASED TO THE RR MUSEUM THERE!
WE HAD THEM ON A FALL SPECIAL EXCURSION HEADED EAST TO COOKEVILLE!
WE HAD AN ALL E-8 CONSIST CONNECTED TO A THIRD E-8
THAT WAS ALSO A LEASED UNIT.
DUE TO WIRING INCOMPATIBILITY
WE HAD TO ACTIVATE THE SANDERS MANUALLY TO BE ABLE TO PULL A CONSIDERABLE GRADE WITH CONSIDERABLE TONNAGE!
EMD E-8s WERE NOT NOTED FOR THEIR PULLING ABILITIES ON HEAVY GRADES WITH TONNAGE,
ESPECIALLY WHEN FALL LEAVES WERE PRESENT ON THE RAILS!
WE DID HAVE GOOD SANDERS AND PLENTY OF SAND FOR THE TRIP HOWEVER! ALTHOUGH THE
Es WERE HEAVILY TASKED THAT DAY WE DID HAVE A GOOD HOGGER AT THE CONTROLS
PS. MY DAD RODE MANY, MANY ON THE " 576" AS A BRAKEMAN . I HAVE A PICTURE OF HIM ON THE FRONT " FOOTBOARD OF THE "576" IN NASHVILLE'S CENTENNIAL PARK!!!!
This steam locomotive under restoration isn’t the only Mainline steam locomotive under restoration of course. This is the beginning of the next generation of steam excursions.
And I feel that this is the answer to bringing all of America back together from being divided.
RaivalRavaul I agree. We’re so behind the UK when it comes to steam. Nobody cares enough anymore.
@@amtrakinoscale9811 totally wrong, if you think Norfolk Southern is going to be hosting, you might wanna look at the previous few years back to 2017. if anything, restored steam locos will have to travel to a scenic line to operate on those, like 765 currently does with the exception being a partnership with METRA for mainline running in Chicago.
Dustin Lehman Where did I say NS was hosting?
Dustin Lehman Did you reply to the wrong person?
Retiring steam loco’s we’re not due to air or noise pollution. They drank water like a herd of camels, thus frequent water stops. Coaling towers were more work than a big diesel tank connected to a pumping station is a lot more economical. Numerous units coupled together made it possible for one train crew to pull longer trains with fewer stops and less maintenance. Steamers double and triple heading had to have a crew for each engine. Now 2 man train crews and some places 1 man crews handle these multi unit trains. Don’t be surprised if they eliminate that 1 engineer, as soon as they work the bugs out. Sorry folks, but steamers are gone forever except for occasional excursions.
My mate says these Mammoet guys make about $129K each
It wouldn't surprise me any and they earn it. Mammoet is one of the premier heavy lift and transport companies in the world. So what's your point?
Democrats want immigrants from Central America-$9.00/hr
@@Dog.soldier1950- What does this have to do with moving and restoring 576???????????????
Have you seen the CZcams videos of them and their ocean salvage operations? Unbelievable.
@@Dog.soldier1950 completely different subject. I think you are on the wrong CZcams Channel.
6:27 Why is a wheel not making contact with the track?
Its the way the suspension is designed to Carry the weight of the tender. Without the extra weight, the suspension springs in such a way that the middle wheels don't contact much. It makes them easier to move around by themselves anyway.
Looks similar to the FEF locomotive series to me. which type is this exactly? grtz from the netherlands
It's a J-3 type. Lots of info on Nashvillesteam.org about this specific locomotive and her sisters.
The NC&StL J3s were built by ALCO, American Locomotive Company. They are, along with the earlier J2 series, the smallest 4-8-4s. They were on 70" drivers. Compare to the UPRR 4-8-4s on 80" drivers.
The Northern locomotives are 4-8-4 wheel arrangement and usually operate on 300 pound/in pressure.
@@organbuilder272 that's a lot more than we have here in europe, the average operating pressure for steamlocs here is ~220. quite impressive. One day i hope to be able to visit the US to track down those giants! Quite hyped about the upcoming 4014 event
T. Stevens 4014 Big Boy size length would be equal to a 13 story building. His Horn is very deep pitch, it’s an amazing sight to behold!
This company moves the largest objects in the world.
I wonder when CZcams video submitters are going to get it into their thick heads that background music should be exactly that - in the background!
At least it is not the usual skull cracking noise that a lot of these guys use.
I just mute it, and play Mozart.
@@hjebone Schubert and Grieg would be good choices as well!
Locomotive. Expo😊
how heavy is that monster
Let's say, you don't want to have your toes under one of the drivers. I think it is somewhat over 100 tons.
Finnish heavy steam locomotive, for example Ukkopekka 1009 weights some 159tons with water&coal.
Go ahead and let the Green Deal go through and ban aircraft, but bring back steam locomotives! Floating railroads to Hawaii!
Yeah, surely so many of us have great memories of these lumbering giants. Going by what we see in the news about the trials and tribulations of air travel, it takes on the flavor of being kind of crazy.
@@whalesong999 im only in my 30's and think steam is way better than anything else for big power. and just think of all the mechanical jobs back then vs now USA was at its peak after WW2 in my opinion, just wished steam would of prospered more.
Would it be possible to make a steam engine in this day in age possible I feel like that can totally happen.
of course, the only reason they went out is crazy Maintenance, the diesel is much cheaper to run
I just really wonder why the Rail Road Locomotive was not shippedvia railroad.
Because there were no rails... Had you really wondered about that. DO you think they can run just anywhere. DO you understand how much these machines weigh?
@@organbuilder272 Oh I understand now. Those two parallel steel items that are 4ft 8in apart are for baby buggies. When did CSX run on interstate highways.
@@marryellen7713 To my knowledge - no railroad equipment has ever run on paved roads. Now sometimes it appears that they do - when rails have been laid along a street thorough the center of a town or alongside a street depending on circumstances. You should understand that steel rails for US, Chinese, Japanese, Canadian, England, Russia most of the Continent and Mexico are 4 feet 8 and ONE HALF inches apart. I don't know of any RR that uses a 56 inch gauge. Perhaps that is why they had to use a truck. The engines wheels are 1/2" wider that the rails.
I believe you asked why they didn't move the engine and equipment by rails. My reply was a simple and accurate one. Did you consider that the rails that might exist are too deteriorated to accommodate the weight of the engine. Or there are no rails in existence that connect the park to the final location where the engine and tender will be restored. The only way to get it there was a flat-bed, heavy haul truck. While I can appreciate your ignorance of the lack of rails - they were never there in the first place - I can not understand or accept your sarcastic response.
However, I will take the responsibility for an equally balanced response. I don't believe I mention anything about where CSX runs, nor, in this case, does it matter. That simple fact is, the fastest and least expensive way to move the locomotive was by truck on surface roads.
As far as baby buggies - I believe #1 that the wheels of a baby buggy are not wide enough to fit on standard gauge rails, much less this new gauge only you know of. #2, it is illegal to put anything but an authorized vehicle on the tracks of an an operating railroad. #3 any vehicle that runs on standard gauge rails much have flanged wheels to be able to stay on the tracks. As far as I know, until recently at least, baby buggies were not made with flanged cast steel wheels, each weighing at least 210 pounds that meet the requirements of the RR safety board.. This would weigh, considering the weight of the axles, , bearings, brakes, frames and lubrication system about 1 ton. exclusive of springs and the means of attaching this assembly to the body of the baby carriage. #4 Considering the weight of this vehicle, and the potential to break concrete sidewalks or put grooves into asphalt pavement, it is highly unlikely that any baby buggy outfitted to run on standard gauge rails would be allowed on the street or sidewalks. #5 Considering the weight of this vehicle, it would be necessary to consider the type of brakes you would use to stop it at the market or drug store. In addition to the basic weight of the bogie, you have to consider the weight of the brake shoes, arms, actuator and some form of control system. If air is used you have to include a reserve tank, pressure gauge, piping and some form of high pressure pump. #5 Of course you would have to provide a power source for the pump. That would have to be a bank of batteries - I would recommend 24 volt system, or a boiler for steam. Of course, for short runs you might use compressed air. This would involve a great deal of additional weight, boiler inspections, and all sorts of safety equipment.
Personally, I don't think you could push this thing although Timkin Roller Bearing company did demonstrate that a man could pull a locomotive weighing over 200 tons.
All in all I think it would be a bit ridiculous to be seen towing a baby buggie down the street belching smoke, hissing steam, tearing up the road or sidewalk just to give the baby, who would likely suffocate from the noxious gasses emitted by the boiler, a walk in the fresh air. Wouldn't it be more practical to put this baby buggie on a flatbed truck. Perhaps you could lay track using your special 4' 8" gauge along the sidewalk. or maybe - Just maybe, you could buy one of the old fashioned kind that have 4 wheels based on a 24" gauge, with rubber tyres and just push it on the sidewalks and forget about giving the kid a thrill - riding the rails at an age where it might not comprehend the event in any case.
There is, however a 15 inch gauge used by live steam builders. Perhaps that might be more suitable for your purposes. If you are hell bent on building the baby buggie that can run on Standard gauge rails, perhaps I could help by providing drawings for this contraption. Mind you, I would demand all patent rights and royalties. I have a machinist that is excellent at doing odd jobs like this and very reasonable in his fees. Let's do it. Sounds exciting.
@@organbuilder272 I love the comment. Marry Ellen might want to use 18 inch gauge though as it is slightly larger than 15 inch.
No one loves steam locomotives more than me but on looking at this clip I wonder if the money needed to certify the boiler and get her back into running order is ever going to be recuperated just from fan trips. What is her area of activity would it be cleared to run on other railroads And then there,s the shear running costs It is a large loco and will take years to restore I just hope it’s a financial break- even point at least
Restoration time - if properly financed - should be 2 years if it is in good condition. If there is much wear, fracturing or corrosion than new parts must be made - add 1 or 2 years. Most labor is volunteer outside the machine shops and such - sometimes even donated from them.
CSX couldn't care less. I hope someone buys the Allegheny and restores it. The one in the museum in Michigan is still in decent shape while the one in Baltimore is in poor shape.
Excuse me thought CSX hated steam lol. Glad they changed their minds.
they don't allow ACTIVE steam, big difference
Интересно,но мало. Парни многое заслоняли собою
What if diesels had wheels that big?
you obviously don't understand why steam locos have large drive wheels then.
CSX? I thought they were against steam?
active steam...
Well I know NOTHING about the engine...... but......... I believe every steam engine that can be brought back to life should be ! ... we have a tendency to just throw thing away, not so good.. what if had just thrown the Wright Brothers aircraft in the dump or let them rot in a storage barn........ WONDERFUL to see this !
Nice video - but KILL the music!!!