Michael Shellenberger: Here's Why Europe Is Shifting Right
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- čas přidán 21. 06. 2024
- Journalist Michael Shellenberger weighs in on the far-right shift in Europe. #France #Right
Originally aired June 17, 2024.
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they are not shifting "right", they are shifting against neoliberalism
And most of all they are tired of terrorism which is worse in their mind than conservative politics
What the left is doing today isn't even liberal or progressive: They're completely against liberty now, they blame free speech and the open internet for hate and threats to children and all sorts of ideas with different root causes... only freedom they care about if anything is freedom to make money, otherwise for whatever minority they selectively accept. The right are no saints either as they've made clear their intentions to abuse the rights of migrants, not sure if they're anti-LGBT and other conservative stupidities we really don't want here. But with some things at least they're a lot better, we don't want to be America 2.0 going to Chinese style digital authoritarianism in the name of safety.
Exactly this. They are fed up and indeed angry at the attempts to railroad them into big state socialism.
They are shifting against leftism. Nobody cares about neoliberalism or even knows what it is.
@@mrradman2986 Not state socialism, because that implies socialism for everyone -- it's actually corporate socialism, ie socialism for the rich, and bugs for you and me.
“Far right” = normal rational people
The founders of RN had relations to nazis. The rhetoric has certainly went softer, but policies aren't just rhetoric.
Yeah here in New York in the USA you are "far right " if you notice that there are physical differences between men and women.
So does Ukraine. But here we are funding them.
@@josephcivitano4290 Ukraine has a "national socialist" problem, not exactly "right" policies.
@@mohamedbenhamida5652Nazis aren't right, they're by definition third position and had tons of policies that mirror modern progressives. So if they're Nazis then unironically they're not very right. Right would be the kaiser who hated them and called them fruits
Far right just means normal people.
Just as often, so does "far left" -- beware of how The Hill and others like to divide people using such terms. I know of no genuine leftist who thinks Biden is a left winger or favors bug-eating WEF computerized social control -- or for that matter uncontrolled immigration. These are all policies favored by the billionaires and large corporations who own the US government and operate it in their interest at all times.
Normal people don't believe that a guy who bailed out Wall Street is a communist.
LOL, “far right” in Europe is what moderate Democrats in the U.S. were in the ‘80’s and ‘90’s.😎✌️
LOL so is "far right" in the US
@@josephclements2145 you are correct.😎✌️
@@josephclements2145 In US they conjure up the "Christian nationalism" boogeyman (which is a fancy dog whistle for anti-abortion fanatics). But I think most people have noticed that pro-life has lost all the post-Dobbs referenda even in Bible Belt states.
And 5 minutes ago....
I don't think moderates ever used the rhetoric that the far right is using in Germany. Immigration has become a bigger issue again, because of the Ukraine war, many of whom will return to Ukraine once the war ends.
If a person doesn't want that his country, his city, his home, his possessions, his freedom, his culture, his history,... were destroyed by migration then this person is Far right.
Yep. It's unbelievable.
I'm actually not against migrants that much, can see some of the issues but still believe in respecting their rights too. I'm more comfortable with the "far right" because liberals were on their way to establishing the basis for a digital dictatorship and mass surveillance state in the name of safety or "for the children". Certain breeds of nationalists have those dangerous ideas too, but even they haven't expressed any plans on par with the madness the oligarchic elite were dreaming: They absolutely had to be kicked from power!
HEAR HEAR
Maybe they should try being more wrong.
I know it's crazy 🤪
There is no far right is Europe. Caring about your country and not wanting your people to be a minority in their own country is not even moderately right, it is just being sane.
It's survival
People who use “far right” to describe everything right of radical left immediately lose credibility.
And vice versa.Washington Post Dems etc are not far left@
Immediately.
republicans and democrats are equally to blame for the state our country is in, if both of the left and right extremists stopped arguing over which party is the most glorious maybe America would be in a better state. It should be people over politics, and country before party but the partisan extremists dont want to have that discussion lol
@@neilcameron3021 Communist
GOOD! AND so tired of this label "Far right" when it is just people standing up against the elites and trying to survive.
Expat living in Germany (now German citizen) since 1984. I was always a democrat, always liberal. Not any more. The green party here is very radical and the "far right" is really not that right at all. We are, thanks to the green party now less "clean" than ever before. We pay up to 4 times more than before just a few years for energy. We shut down our very clean atomic plants and we buy it from France instead for a high price as well as fracking gas from US. Germany has lost itself entirely, so very normal liberal people are starting to vote AFD because they seem to be the only voice of reason. They are the only ones that want to investigate the covid mess, etc. etc. Fed up myself I have to say.
I watched the conference on covid held by the AFD where Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi. They seem to be the only people who feel any sense that things were very wrong during covid and that there are many questions that need to be answered. If those people are far right then I am also. The world is truly upside down at the moment.
Europe became an authoritarian and scary place during covid (I’m in Belgium)
They are not "far right." That label is wrong. And the so-called "left" is not "left." Everyone is confused by the mislabeling and the nonstop babbling. When the map and terrain disagree, trust the terrain.
They do this to stoke fear. Everything boils down to fear mongering.
Well said. The problem with The Hill is that, in the end, they are all about preserving the standard narrative -- blue v red, left v right, socialist v capitalist, immigrant v native, etc etc etc -- which favors ongoing control of US politics by wealthy special interests who want to distract attention from the real problem, a sham "democracy" that only serves those with enough money to buy the political process.
The "far right" is just "right" much more than the "left" isn't a "far left".
I like that bit about terrain - well-said 👌
Far right is not what it was….now it normal, rational, proud patriot people
But you all still do cheer for public service cuts & for people to struggle as m uch as possible to benefit the owner clas,you dont realise youre doing it but the people you cheer for support those things.
You all just want a different flavour of Elite rulers basically.
Far right = common sense/stop self destruction..
People are becoming more anti-establishment and I couldn't be more glad.
Europe is shifting to the middle.
Nope it's already in the middle. Neo liberalism is right wing.
@@1848revolt You must be a MSM journalist.
@@Appregator you must not be very smart.
@@Appregator are you telling me a bunch of neo liberals are left you are just being silly.
People have become fed up with leftist rediculousness!
Meanwhile actual leftests can see its neoliberalism & theres nothing leftist about it.
People are just tired of huge decisions being made without their input
Who could have foreseen that imposing policies that hurt the population would cause said population to turn their support away from the parties imposing such policies
There is no far right The Marxist inventor that name
Do you know what "Marxist" actually means?
@Carlin2810 BLM claim to be trained Marxist, I couldn't imagine a country run by BLM 😂
Better to be far right than far wrong.
The EU, and many European leaders, ignored the warning of Brexit and this is the outcome.
What warning from Brexit? The far right had nothing to do with Brexit.
@@VaucluseVanguardwhat is “‘the’ ‘far’ ‘right’” thanks hope this helps have a Great weekend 👌
At the Oxford Union debate "populism is a threat to democracy", the elite voted by a wide margin that Nancy Pelosi's side beat Winston Marshall's side even though it was obviously the other way around. That tells everything about what the elite think of the people.
@@VaucluseVanguard I didn’t say anything about “the far right”.
The warning from Brexit was that voters are increasingly sceptical of policies being led (dictated) by unelected bodies and bureaucrats who feel they know best and aren’t answerable to the electorate. The response in the U.K. was to coerce the government into holding a referendum. Th EU ignored the disaffection in Britain than lay behind Brexit and carried on as before with the rest of the EU. The very disaffection a majority of Brits had with the EU (there were disaffected Brits who voted Remain as they thought sticking with ‘the devil you know’ was the better policy) has since festered in mainland Europe. As voters there don’t have the option of a referendum they have voted for the parties most critical of many EU policies, and those parties happen to be “far right”
Is Britain doing better after Brexit?
Glad you have Mr. Shellenburger on. He sees and reports without scewing to the left or right agenda.
Much love to the native Europeans and their fight to take against people brutalizing their land.
A backlash is inevitable.
As a life-long working class labor based socialist - I never thought I'd be lumped into the - "right wing" - category for simply defending the economic interests of my fellow working class sisters and brothers of all races by supporting limited legal immigration policies instead of our insane - "open boarders" - madness. Freaking amazing.
they even used the phrase "labor shortage" which is just billionare speak for "your wages go up"
Amen....left vs right is not what this is. This is top to bottom. we are united in bring back responsive govt that serves it's people..nothing left/right about it. fight on brother..from America
"Borders"
Same here in Australia, we have a housing crisis so bad business people are living in their cars with their families because they just can't find anywhere to rent.
There are no rentals available yet the government keeps immigration going, it's really sad there are families becoming homeless here because of the shortages but also because with the rise in costs they can't afford their high mortgages so they default and then can't find a rental losing everything they have. Our government promised to solve all these things however has failed miserably at it.
It's pretty much happening everywhere that the people are no longer trusting the governments are doing what they promised and they aren't being truthful to the people.
And now Australia & Europe & UK are going to vote for people that support Austerity & privatisation of any infrastructure thats left.
It’s so soothing to hear rational people say rational things …..
Let's call the left far left Woke and far right is far right centrist
That's not accurate either. Sit down.
The EU (along with most of the Western world) has gone so far left, that any movement to the right looks extreme. We're just trying to get back to the center. Anyway, I always love hearing from Shellenberger so my thumbs up is for him.
The issue in both Europe and North America is “White Erasure”
Don't forget to mention that when anyone brings up concerns over immigration, cost of living, the war etc; media and politicians call those people every slur imaginable and turns half the population against them. Maybe they're voting right because they feel unheard, beat down and hated, just a thought 🤷
I’d rather be far right than far wrong.
Are/were the Yellow Vests in France considered right-wing? Or the protesting farmers in Belgium and Holland?
Oh she didn't get fired, she transitioned!
Everything is far right according to MSM. Polls show left has gone left as right as mostly stayed the same.
Simple, they want to continue having food!
Regarding France, the choice is between so-called 'far right' vs the Islamo-left alliance. The cultural some say civilisational war is far more of a concern for Europeans than it is for Americans.
This. The European future looks more like Lebanon and it's civil war while the US future looks more like Brazil.
Frankly, if one is forced to choose, Brazil would be a much better place to end up as.
@@johnsmithers8913 It would still be awful.
The terms left and right have no meaning. Obsolete. They have lost their ability to describe the current ideas or political trends.
No the real left want to invest in infrastructure & worling people the right want to implement mor austerity & sell off any infrastructure that hasnt been already.
The rightwing will win everytime though practically because they vocally make it known they hate immigrants.
One of the most popular MP's in the UK comes from my town & he told struggling families if they cant feed themselves on 30p a day they need to learn how to budget but they love him because he hates the same people they do.
When did loving civilization and your culture become FAR RIGHT? Compared to what?
Why does no one mention that Crimea voted to become part of Russia?
None of those votes are legit though...
After it was occupied by Russian troops. That is not conducive to a free and fair election.
Not part of the narrative
Because a rushed election conducted a week after Russian troops invaded Crimea is seen as a shame by normal non crazy people. (including every government on the planet. No government recognizes Crimea as part of Russia)
@@JamesR1986 I guess you didn't see the videos of people celebrating in the street.
Russia didn’t “go into Crimea”, they were already there
They were already there AND went in. Then they claimed it. Unlike their general post-Cold War strategy for their periphery, they actually claimed the territory as Russia instead of the many “frozen conflicts” where they just meaningfully disrupt a foreign nation’s sovereignty. And Russians “were there” because they invaded and threw out the people who lived there and repopulated the island, so “already there” is misleading, too. See Tatarstan…where some of the original people who weren’t killed or starved ended up.
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And more countries like Russia euporean countries don't
It's not "far right" to insist on borders, better standards of living for the population that pays taxes and the rule of law by the nation state instead of the totalitarian anti democratic E.U., which should be disbanded. Throw in a war started by the U.S. and N.A.T.O. where the French Prime Minister wants to join (with the French people of course, he will not fight).
The so-called Far Right in France is Center Right in many countries. Strong Labor unions, universal health care, great public transportation and public services. That is the accepted and 'here to stay' policy in Europe, especially France. Immigration and being dictated to by the US are prime issues. No, 90% of Europeans are not against Russia, Mr. Schellenberger.
Hard to tell the difference between the Democrat and Republican parties... from a visible minority lens.
@5:00 are europeans _really_ “against” Russia? ~Half European countries are at least culturally compatible with Russia. What is the actual problem?
Maybe I follow the wrong podcasts, but the 'far right' seems to be more friendly towards Russia as they know there is no reason to fear Russia. They know that the US has bombed Nordstream with their fedble government still creeping up the the US... and Russia doesn't seem to fear the movement and I'd say that espescially Russia is watching threats from the West very closely
Funny post. They’re against Russia because…history and present. And Russians. European countries are incompatible culturally with Russia and always have been. Again, nice bit of ironic humor! 😅
NATO
Yup, European progressives have been failing badly recently, too technocratic, but I think the COVID overreaction was the biggest factor in dissatisfaction, or near the top…
True, but don't underestimate the green agenda. People are starting to realize that the end of cheap plentiful energy is going to decimate their living standards, from keeping warm in winter to the ability of farmers to grow food.
The only other thing that is going to have a greater impact is mass migration.
@@johnsmithers8913 yeah I don’t support a green agenda like limiting travel, food, ect, but I also understand we are hurting the planet and our future survival. Nikola Tesla said 100 years ago we can do better than oil and gas, and we will in time👌
@@TheNewMediaoftheDawn Maybe, but the tech has to be viable first. Solar panels and wind turbines that will never produce more energy than it took to build are scams.
I was always a Democrat but now I'm voting for Trump - but would rather have Thomas Massie or Rand Paul.
The show is so much more a pleasure to watch now. Hands down.
Too bad the world is so polarized and the politicians won't do common sense reforms based on data and trends. Surely organized, documented immigration based on labor need is possible. Problem is when you document workers- their employers have to follow safety and pay standards. Companies that exploit cheap undocumented immigrant labor don't want that. Maybe a specific non-citizen minimum wage would be a compromise
I hope Europe goes far right.......which is equivalent to about the middle 15 years ago.....
Americans should remember the centre ground of US politics is and has been much further to the right of most European countries in the post World War 2 era. Consequently, European politicians called far right in Europe may well hold political views that they share with the most conservative Democrats.
I am sorry to say that "conservative Democrats" is a thing of the past.
Popularity for our rulers probably hasn't been this low since feudal times.
They are protesting the majority…
As has been pointed to, and is quite obvious, recalibrating to centrism is no shift to 'the right'. These terms are braindead...anyone remember how long 'alt-right' lasted?
It was interesting watching BBC and how they portrayed the 'far right" in France and how it proposes to adopt "far right" policies such as giving preference to French citizens when it comes to jobs and housing. That is the way it is already in countries like Canada, and I don't think Canada is considered a "far-right" country, is it?
There is nothing unnatural about preferring to be around people with the same morals and values.
It has to go right for future survival...everyone can see where the current road ends if there isn't a shift back to normalcy and tradition...Europa belongs to Europeans...not Islam or the rest of the world
People are shifting right, but politics and mainstream are shifting left - now, far left.
This is what Ratio'd looks like.
Subscribers vs Views vs Likes vs Comments
It’s not far right it’s centrist. Beleive me.
Glad to see Ryan return to the show! Surprised Robby didnt seem to notice it - then again Robby hardly notices anything...
Migration is people within a state moving around. Immigration is when people from one state move INTO another state. 5th grade stuff.
A shift into sanity.. away from the 50-year shift towards the far-left
The fact you use the rhetoric about 'far-right' merely illustrates the above.
Alt right or far right--
yeah, NPR etc. Orwellian woke-speak.
True to form.
Finally, someone mentioned housing
Well...too many muslims will turn anyone "right"
I dont even call it that
Its common sense. When you give someone a ride and they wanna drive....
Very good pice...i life in Swiss and they are making a very good job by this report.
Far right in europe means wanting to keep your own culture , wanting immigration to slow down , wanting your own people to count before foreigners thats all
This new guy is so.much better than Bri. The conversarions are so much more nuanced and interesting. If hes hired full time, i may start listening again
Accusing them of taking money from Russia 🤣 Why does that sound familiar.
Everything normal is "far right."
No , it's just Europe , US & Canada want to celebrate a century in 5 years , When their German/Austrian idol was in charge . Fix it for you.
The reason: Islam’s incompatibility with the west and the establishment refusing to listen to the concerns of natives.
"Never Trump Democrat uh the Never Trump Republicans"
Freudian slip.
labor shortages are good, it raises our wages and gets us jobs faster
i find it unbelievable many ppl scream "we want our country back" and vote for the democrats or labour or whatever. how is that getting their country back?
"Far right" for Europeans wishing to maintain their European culture, customs, values and institutions.
Canada is also shifting hard to the right as well lol. The right just won a downtown Toronto election, the first that this has happened since the 1980s lol
All equals to me GOOD against EVIL.Politicians are pieces on a three D chess board.
I haven't seen much analysis about polling people on who changed from which party to which. I suspect a lot of the loss in Greens went to the center-left, while people on the center-left moved to the center-right, and people in the center-right moved to the right. That seems like it would explain a lot of the shift, since people aren't really going to do a Horseshoe and flip instantly from far left to far right.
Although you could say that about various phenomena like Five Star or the new German anti-war, mildly anti-immigration left party that Greenwald interviewed, which to me is basically right-wing if they're pro-existing workers and don't want to N Russia for being authoritarian while white and not controlled by the US like everyone else in Europe.
So much better without Bri going totally hysterical
Glad Briahna is gone!
Second that emotion.
i literally started watching again today when i heard the good news
The harder the shilling, the more confident I feel that the mEsSaGe is breaking.
A lot of truth, even more, to be found by viewing recent work at Judge Napolitano, Military Summary Channel, Colonel Douglas MacGregor, Scott Ritter. See especially Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski.
NATO did not provoke Russia, there may have been threats from Putin and his cronies when Ukraine membership was mooted many years ago, in my view Russia made a big thing of it simply because they were always planing to disregard the Budapest agreement and move to bring Ukraine under their thumb, with force if necessary, but article 5 protection would have made the cost to high, this is why Putin was totally against membership.
Micheal...do you WANT to DRESS FOR THE JOB??? or is this job a casual friday for your resume
Theyre tired of the basketball ppl
Russia didn't "take" Georgia. Thatd absurd.
THey are consciously Anti great reset.
They are really moderates.
Its mistake to say that Europeans are shifting right because Europeans are regardless of whether they call themselves conservatives or liberal then to be left on many things. Europeans tend to be irreligious.
The Left gets The Right it deserves.
If only!!
"Left vs. Right" is an archaic description of the political spectrum. Individualism vs. elitism is more accurate. The "right" description is a legacy of conservatism or racism, those of us who prioritize individual freedom are neither of these.
Conservatives are not "racists." Rather, they seek to conserve the distinctive culture of their respective peoples.
@@christophergraves6725 unfortunately, in some circles “conservative” and “nationalist” includes being a racist, not an accurate definition but an intentional conflation by Leftist elitists.
@@michaelmurvihill8813 I don't doubt that the Left labels anything that resists their leveling as "racist." But 'racist' by definition is viewing one race as being morally superior to another or all others. That is what the term means and nothing else. So, conserving the culture of a particular people is not racist since conservatives such as Edmund Burke respected the distinctive character of all races, ethnicities, tribes, and civilizations without ever claiming one had claim of moral superiority to subjugate or exterminate another. Burke argued rather that the different customs and traditions in each culture allowed the people of that particular culture to bond uniquely with their others who shared their race, ethnicity, language, religion and traditions that suited their particular time and setting.
Leftists seek to break down these differences and barriers in order to bring the world together so that people's loyalties to their own people evaporates in the hope that people can live together in their "Species-
Being" as Marx put it. Some today put this same sentiment as "There are no distinct races, just the human race." That is communism and that is what conservatives oppose since it breaks down these particular and personal ties to some and not others that make human relationships special, intense, and devoted. Love is limited to a few. Aristotle made this point in his criticism of all versions of communism, viz. that spreading human affection too broadly diminishes its intensity and devotion. This is what communists deny.
Can't you hire someone who is not a DEI hire
RN is called far right in France more because of the party’s history. But beside their strong stance on immigration and their hostility towards the EU their policies are left of center (Macron)
Macron is a center-right politician
not far right
Wow we can have a topic without racism or liberal filibustering. How? Oh wait, Briana is gone. 😢. Show is so much better.
No right just come back to the normal ways ...
I really like Micheal....very. nice addition wish he would be on more often+
Meet the male Briahna Joy Gray.
Why you keep reuploading old videos? That‘s really annoying! There is enough news to talk about. I am out. Bye
They replay videos every weekend.