This helps alot, thanks. I’ve been using Waves Tune for a long time, but as a singer/songwriter I’ll have to give Melodyne a shot. I appreciate your example of the un-tuned vocals.
You have to "select all" then adjust the "ratio, speed and note transition" to get a smoother, natural feel. You have it set to fast so it sounds like the "T Pain" effect.
Hey Ian, I respectfully disagree that Melodyne sounds better. Don't let the Wavestune interface fool your ears lol. I've been using Wavestune as my go-to for 10 years and honestly, IMO, it is the easiest to use and sounds phenomenal. I own Melodyne and Logic (Flex Pitch needs a lot of work to fix artifact issues) but I always reach for Wavestune to save me from vocal editing hell. At the end of the day, it's about what works for you.
I too have both Melodyne and Waves tune and I can also say that you can't judge waves tune by the look of it. It sounds good if you know how to use it. The only problem is there is no formant shift option.
I've been using Waves Tune for 14 years. I do vocal engineering full time. I've been considering Melodyne for a few years. The thing I like in Waves Tune is they have a piano roll that plays the notes as a reference. No other tuning plugin does this. Waves Tune does sound quite digital and less natural. I never knew about the tolerance function! Great vid!
For my use case, I often find waves actually gives cleaner sounding results. I am not looking for an auto tune effect, just for fixing bits that need fixing , transparently. I would also need to bump the melody next tier for similar control.
Do you think Waves Tune would do it for Country and Slow Rock vocals? I don't really wanna spend the 249 Euros for Melodyne, especially because Waves Tune is on a 88% discount right now.
Thank you very much, and we learn a lot from you. We wish you to make a video on how to engineer the sound of Trav Scott. What plugins did you use in it? Is it from the program or outside of it? Greetings to you Ezz El-Din I follow you from Egypt
How about the Auto tune that comes with Logic, straight out of the box? If you give Melodyne 9/10, and Waves Tune a 5.5/10, what would you give Logic's built in auto-tuner?
I would give Melodyne an 8.5 and waves a 7.5. The comparison in Logic would be Flex Pitch which I would give a 7.5. Sounds pretty close to Melodyne but I've have problems with it crashing logic before. The pitch correction effect in Logic I would give a 5, doesn't sound awful but doesn't sound great and there aren't a lot of adjustments you can make to it.
Can't tell the difference at all with all the effects you have going through the vocal track. I suggest next time you do a video take off all the effects so we can hear the difference.
This comes off as very biased. First you set the speed to 157 so that it's barely doing anything and say it sounds "cheap". Then you put the retune speed to 0 so of course it sounds like a T pain effect. You didn't even try to make it sound natural. I'm not saying waves tune sounds better but at least learn how to use it correctly before you make a comparison video. The natural sounding range would be somewhere between 10-20 Speed and 40-60 Note Transition.
Honestly, for the price difference I couldn't hear a damn bit of difference between the two. Also, the vocal samples you are using do not even sound like a human, it sounds like a robotic computer singing. You should do a video like this comparing the two, but use a straight up non-processed vocal from someone who can actually sing (and do like a country song) that's more focused on the vocal itself and you won't be able to tell a bit of difference between the 2 programs. Why do ALL of these comparison videos always use vocal samples that sound like robots! Drives me nuts. Use something like Neil Young, James Taylor, etc., that type of vocal.
This helps alot, thanks. I’ve been using Waves Tune for a long time, but as a singer/songwriter I’ll have to give Melodyne a shot. I appreciate your example of the un-tuned vocals.
You have to "select all" then adjust the "ratio, speed and note transition" to get a smoother, natural feel. You have it set to fast so it sounds like the "T Pain" effect.
great advice! thx!
Of course!
Hey Ian, I respectfully disagree that Melodyne sounds better. Don't let the Wavestune interface fool your ears lol. I've been using Wavestune as my go-to for 10 years and honestly, IMO, it is the easiest to use and sounds phenomenal. I own Melodyne and Logic (Flex Pitch needs a lot of work to fix artifact issues) but I always reach for Wavestune to save me from vocal editing hell. At the end of the day, it's about what works for you.
I too have both Melodyne and Waves tune and I can also say that you can't judge waves tune by the look of it. It sounds good if you know how to use it. The only problem is there is no formant shift option.
Nice video, was wondering about a Waves Tune vs Melodyne comparison... thank you! 💯
That was a super cool ! I’m not too familiar with auto tune software, so it was cool to see what capabilities any plugin out there has.
I've been using Waves Tune for 14 years. I do vocal engineering full time. I've been considering Melodyne for a few years. The thing I like in Waves Tune is they have a piano roll that plays the notes as a reference. No other tuning plugin does this. Waves Tune does sound quite digital and less natural. I never knew about the tolerance function! Great vid!
For my use case, I often find waves actually gives cleaner sounding results. I am not looking for an auto tune effect, just for fixing bits that need fixing , transparently. I would also need to bump the melody next tier for similar control.
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Clear, no BS video. Thanks!
Nice job. Thanks!
Do you think Waves Tune would do it for Country and Slow Rock vocals? I don't really wanna spend the 249 Euros for Melodyne, especially because Waves Tune is on a 88% discount right now.
Yep, definitely would work for that! Just dial back the wetness for a more natural sounding tuning
Great comparing 🙂
Hey Ian to be honest and respectfully those vocals sound VERY unnatural to the point that i'd record them again if the plug in can't fix it
When i use this plugin it gives latency playback delay happens what to do
Should have showed us the difference on acapella vocals. With music clouds the effects on this side
Main Vocal Melodyne. All others wave. Good compromise sound and work wise. I used Flexpitch. But it kills my nerves with the bloobs and bliibs
This crap is sick dawg. I love it.
Thank you very much, and we learn a lot from you. We wish you to make a video on how to engineer the sound of Trav Scott. What plugins did you use in it? Is it from the program or outside of it? Greetings to you Ezz El-Din I follow you from Egypt
I agree with Melodyne sounding richer and natural
I cant find you on audea - can you post audio versions of your videos there? would love to listen to them! thanks again for the great content!
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Gracias amigo
How about the Auto tune that comes with Logic, straight out of the box? If you give Melodyne 9/10, and Waves Tune a 5.5/10, what would you give Logic's built in auto-tuner?
I would give Melodyne an 8.5 and waves a 7.5. The comparison in Logic would be Flex Pitch which I would give a 7.5. Sounds pretty close to Melodyne but I've have problems with it crashing logic before. The pitch correction effect in Logic I would give a 5, doesn't sound awful but doesn't sound great and there aren't a lot of adjustments you can make to it.
For hip hop artists Could you use Melodyne when your singing vocals then put on autotune after ?
Forsure, big fan of this, I usually do this for my vocals. Melodyne to get things in the right area, then autotune to tighten it up.
Why so much reverb bro
I can understand the vocal or hear the digital effect that you mentioned because of the reverb, reduce the decay
What can I say, I enjoy some wet vocals🤷♂🏄♂
@@IanBellueMusic oh well that’s fine
Can't tell the difference at all with all the effects you have going through the vocal track. I suggest next time you do a video take off all the effects so we can hear the difference.
This comes off as very biased. First you set the speed to 157 so that it's barely doing anything and say it sounds "cheap". Then you put the retune speed to 0 so of course it sounds like a T pain effect. You didn't even try to make it sound natural. I'm not saying waves tune sounds better but at least learn how to use it correctly before you make a comparison video.
The natural sounding range would be somewhere between 10-20 Speed and 40-60 Note Transition.
I am biased
3:55. 4:10
This is a no brainer to me... Melodyne is WAY better, but u would expect it by the maasive price difference... For a hobbist, waves definitely works.
where's that chain
soon
Honestly, for the price difference I couldn't hear a damn bit of difference between the two. Also, the vocal samples you are using do not even sound like a human, it sounds like a robotic computer singing. You should do a video like this comparing the two, but use a straight up non-processed vocal from someone who can actually sing (and do like a country song) that's more focused on the vocal itself and you won't be able to tell a bit of difference between the 2 programs. Why do ALL of these comparison videos always use vocal samples that sound like robots! Drives me nuts. Use something like Neil Young, James Taylor, etc., that type of vocal.
Heck yeah I'll look into it