How To Install and Time an HPI Ignition on a TRX250R
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2020
- How To Install and Time an HPI Ignition on a TRX250R
In this video
- Removing OEM Ignition
- Installing HPI Ignition
- Timing HPI Ignition
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Time stamps for this video are in the first 30 seconds 🤘 I hope this helps you guys out with deciding on an aftermarket ignition and install!
Hey Michael! I have a fresh built 250r with brand new HPI ignition. I am only running a pro design tether kill switch. Does that go right into that "kill switch wire" coming off the cdi? Or do I splice that into the orange wire coming into the coil?
To add to the post below, I am not running any oem switches. Only the pro design tether...
Loving the frequent uploads
Not just you
Nearly 40k subs and puts more time and effort into the videos than any other Offroad channel I watch, keep it up
Thank you for this bro 🙏
Never want this build to be done. Love the content.
Loving this build! I rode a 1986 250 R in 86’. To this day, I have never been on a better all around 4 wheeler.
That's awesome man; thank you for following the build!
So glad you got the HPI figured out, those instructions are rough l but the kit seems pretty nice
Man you have given me so many idea for my next rebuild ! I love that you took the time to figure out the stator ! Keep it up Mikey !!!
I have a 1975 KX250. Original ignition has gone out twice. I just purchased an HPI for it and going to install it tonight. Thank you for the video it will be a huge help when installing .
Glad you got it figured out! I was on the fence about getting one when you were having the issues since I only have a stator on the engine I have. Awesome stuff cant wait to see it all together!
Absolutely love the content Mike and you as a person as well you make great entertaining and in depth content as well as funny and you’re a great guy all around and its amazing the relationships you have with your subs keep it up man !
You have some serious wiring skills buddy. Your face when it fired up says it all. So close can’t wait to see the plastics on. Congrats on a sweet machine and a great and informative channel.
Thank you Rex 🤘🤘
Keep up this build loving it!!
hello
this is willy from HPI belgium ,thanks for the nice video , it will helping many other guys to fit it
Hello Willy. Can you double check if its 100% well mounted? Because after he set 2mm btdc he cut the video and then lock the nut, and then on double check the piston was 0mm tdc and rotor placed on secound mark. After he moves it 2mm before, the ignition logo on rotor its outside the ruler with ignition marks
Man I can’t get over how awesome this quad is . Wow .
Sweet. It's good that you got it figured it out!
Thanks for all the intel, it’s helped a lot along the way of my build.!
This channel is going to grow very fast! Love the content!
I love all your videos man keep it up can't wait to see the first ride on the 250R
Thank you for watching them bro
Love your videos man and learning at the same time..
I have 2 things to say I love this channel with the 250r process and how the hell does 2 vintage get all dem subs like Jesus he can’t even tune a carb right
Haha, thank you bro 🤘 I think he has the entertainment factor
@@MichaelSabo yeah he's a little bit slow
Stumbled upon 2vintage all I can say is wow , that guy hasn’t a click or a clue about anything . It’s hilarious actually lol. Kinda scary that people ask him for advice tho .
He gets all type of bikes but something always up with them even the yz250 he got
@@ModifiedM14 yeah the kicker was too far forward
Thank You - Had a problem with the wifes Race Yamaha TZR 125 clean all the earths ( grounds ) and added the extra ones works well now - Thanks for doing the video ( from the UK )
One adjustment and it starts and runs mint... love it!
i like the HPI ignition
Way to go, thank you for keeping it real and trying it back out. Sounds crispy 👌. Now heat cycles and time to let that thing rip. Bbbrrrrpppp.....
Heeelll yea bro! Thanks for watching Chris 🤘
Keep up with the constant uploads
I just installed my HPI on my 250r. I must say it was very impressive. I've had my 88 for 20 years. I can't remember it ever pulling so hard and the response in throttle... 2 thumbs up!!
Hey Ron, did you set your timing mark at 2mm BEFORE TDC? Or just exact TDC. I'm confused.
@@wrldtrvlr4117 I followed led performance video on his site. I can't remember for sure but seems it was before top dead center. Im really happy with hp 68 ignition. I don't ride at night so that's not an issue for me
Looks like you got it under control now. Looking forward to seeing you riding it!
Same here can't wait to see it rip 😁🤙
Looks good. I'm in the process of swapping a 250r motor into a 2000 400ex frame that I have modified. It's super fun to do stuff like these projects. Can't wait to see what's next.
dude im glad you got the hpi working right . because like LED said factory is 35 years old at the end of the day . but for me if i can find somebody selling a factory ignition that is in good condition id collect it . i race xc and once we got the motor tuned in it always cranks on the 1st kick . if it dont then i dont have my kill switch in lmao
Top notch quality built literally amazing quality in work,idea,scheme,motor build,overall one of the nicest 250r builds.in my opinion i think the quad only needs a hand coned inframe exhaust to make it have that true final detail and also I think raw 2 stroke pipes are a piece of art,if your ever interested let me know I’ll hook you up with my fabricator he’s a legend in the game
Damn mike you outdid yourself again.almost finished.hopefully on to the next project. I kinda wish you would do a project lt250r. Your videos have so much subject information. And it helps so many guys.banshee build trx250r build.lt250r build. 3 builds alot of quads people build is amazing.plus I got no doubt you would make a sweet suzuki.
Thanks so much Evan; I'd love to do a quad racer as one of my next projects!
@@MichaelSabo LT500 build would be cool. Grew up riding those. Only have one friend who still has one. They can still be found for reasonable price. Would make a great project machine and also one nice torque monster when finished.
So I have the same ignition but it’s for a ktm250 sx 2mm stroker. The instructions are the same and looks identical. I am getting severe kickback but I only set mine to the second hash mark from zero so I think I’m really advanced after watching this video. I’m going to try setting where you did. Thanks for the video
Good job on the build. im loving it👌
Thank you bro! 🤘
Man that thing is mean love the 250r keep on building🤟🤟👌
It’s looking good 😁
Congrats bro. I knew you'd figure it out. Now it's time for a ride video. Wanna see that bad boy in action. Oh, hey, 1 more tip for you. If you want a lighter pull on your clutch lever, straighten out that Z bend on your lower clutch lever, attached to the clutch cable (seen at 10:20). You'll have to grind a little off the cylinder for clearance of the lever and tweak the cable mount a little, but the reduction in clutch pull is noticeable and well worth the mod.
It’s so funny that thing sounds identical to my old blaster i had lmao. Great vid, can’t wait to see this thing rip and maybe ride on the track with you one day (i live in NJ and race D6)
That's awesome man and thank you; maybe we can ride sometime; you're right over the bridge 🤘
Trial and error man. Always fun to learn.
I just want to see that bad baby all together and ripping! Dream quad. That braap tho!!
I am happy now can't wait till you drive it and feel the power
Great content!
Great vid, you and 250r trx Junkie build some nice stuff.
Great Video Mike, Let's get some fenders on this Beast and see it running at the Track Bro..
I dont wanna say it ....but I told ya so ...I wasnt tryin to talk makes to you when I said it was super easy to set up ..I was just being honest ...and I learned some things from you as well ...the extra ground wire is trick and I'm gonna head out to the shop and do that as well .... super proud of your build and super excited that you like the hpi...
That's suppose to say wasnt tryin to talk smack to you .... lol
Keep it up Man ! I go rip my R everytime you post lol !
Beast mode 🙌😎
I like the contents at the beginning of the video.
That’s sweet you got the HPI to work bro
Great video I’m at the point where I want a new ignition system for my build This is definitely a option. I wonder how the longevity long term use is
Having a background knowledge of electrical systems from your previous jobs is awesome! Thats about the only thing I haven't learned about working on my own bike... Need to take a course or something. Great content man when are you going to rip that thing?😍
It's Really coming together 🤘😁🤙
Thank you Greywolfwarrior!
Got me an 86 trx250r Sunday and it's breaking up really bad through the whole Powerband. I'm figuring the cdi box is bad because I've ohmed out the rest of the components and have concluded that an hei ignition is what I need!
Way to go you got this
I got a hpi red box on my “Honda” hm50 and iT works great i have now 14hp with a fast 50cc kit from Polini and a custome Made exhaust, ... before the red box i had a black box hpi i was verre happy from iT so thats why i baught the red box iT gives around 1/2 hp more power and iT tork is slightly better. Greets from Belgium
Thank you for the feedback man; crazy how 50cc can make 14hp!
Hey. I run HPI on my '95 YZ125.
HPI for the win. Bike gets totally different.
Recently i had to rebuild and i can't get my bike running. It's stalling and lack of power maybe lack of ignition or fuel delivery.
After seeing this video i'll for sure check my ground wiring. Maybe thats the cause.
Thank you !!!
She runs like a beauty
I’m glad I live in Oregon LED performance is about 30 min drive from my house
You're lucky man!
Great video! I just ordered and received HPI ignition. Can’t wait to install. You mention in video you found grommet somewhere. Can you advise as to where you’d recommend ordering?
Technical writing is an art form in itself. Some of the best engineers, inventors, and builders have a hard time clearly explaining how their creations work. It's no surprise that the installation instructions were misleading. When someone knows everything there is to know about a system, they may unconsciously assume that the reader understands what they are saying.
I've read about this in books Leo! It's crazy how the mind of an engineer can work and how it just doesn't translate to us mortals.
Good deal, glad you got it ripping? Question..what is that gauge you put in sparkplug hole, and where can I get one?
💪💪💪🤘🤘it run a lot better than the eom
100%
Looks and sounds amazing! Nice build I can’t wait to do one like this one day. Just curious tho, what do u do for a break in period on your 2 bangers?
I usually do 3 - 15 minute heat cycles and occasionally vary the throttle RPM and then right lightly at first. There is so much controversy over this I'm sure you know.
Mike, now that you have had the HPI for some time would you recommend it? I just got it for my 390 CEO build
Have you rode it yet? How does it compare to the banshee?? I own banshee but never had chance to ride 250r. Thanks and have great day
Do you think if you would have ran extra grounds on the oem it too would have ran better than before, or even better than the hpi?
A question for you. would you say with the lower mass flywheel than stock, the motor revs a bit quicker or easier? Also, is there less vibration? I figure even with the added weight, the hpi unit is lighter than oem. I just ordered an hpi unit for my bike that has a big ol' OEM flywheel. hoping to get a quicker revving bike and hoping this smaller diameter flywheel will reduce some of the vibration.
the dial gauge is a great way to check the condition of your bearing's.
Hey man I've been watching your videos about the hpi. I just got the kit for my 86 cr250 installed tonight and I realised the rotor and stator are hitting each other when rotating. Assuming u have removed the hpi rotor what did you use to remove it? Hopefully I can sort this out myself and get it running right.
Yeahhhh fuck yeh man I love your TRXm309r man
@12:44 you mention that (the orange wire plugs into the only tab on the coil) is from the stator, Is the hpi ignition different from traditional cdi type ignitions as to where the "primary" coil wire comes from the cdi unit and the stator feeds it along with the rectifier "regulator" if equipped. great vid!
Fuck that’s one bad quad, can’t wait to see it done
Good video! Im curious to see what you do for engine brake in procedure? And if you do one at all...? Read and hear of alot of different things online and on u tube videos. Im in the middle of doing a top end on my rm125. And kind of want to see what people think before i start it for first time. Do you have any suggestions for me Mike? Would appreciate it! And anyone else that would like to leave a comment :)
hello
you need to set it like in our manual ! on 2 mm before TBDC , on secound mark.
Did you have to drill the adapter plate to fit the stator
Hey mike you might want to check but we always lightened our flywheel for mx. And run oem for xc racing. Some guys weight there flywheels for xc. More roating mass slower rev, less stall. Lighter flywheel faster rev. On a mx track you want faster rev to get the power down for the jumps. That's why mx dirtbikes have such small flywheels.
Thank you for this info bro! I am going to run it with the weight at first and if it's not snappy enough, I'll try it without. Arlan told me without it, guys tend to stall out on the track.
@@MichaelSabo must j8st be with that flywheel set up. Let us know
@@dirtsquadatv2714 yes, I think even with the weight, it is lighter than stock.
@@MichaelSabo probably good for drag racing without the weight. My wife's uncle works for vitos hes the parts guy he says banshee draggers use a pvl ignition theres literally no weight at all. Banshees got alot of rotating mass. I'm sure you've noticed the trx250r revs alot faster than a stick banshee.
@@dirtsquadatv2714 the banshees pretty snappy bit the 250r does seem more responsive; im sure ill notice after I get some seat time
So looks like it’s been a year. Are you still running the hpi and how does it perform when actually riding? I just purchased this for my bike so I’m very curious.
Is this a better ignition than using a CR250 ignition because I'm thinking of swapping myn
U gonna make a 250r shirt with the built one on it? I’d buy it right away🤘
Great idea; I will make one 🤘
Perhaps
Smoke on startup is good.
F#ck yeah now put that beast together and send it and if your looking for another project try looking for a suzuki lt500R but great video on the electronics cant wait to see her with the banshee
Hell yea man! A banshee/trx250r sound check might be in order
Great video, did you have to remove the rubber strips to add carbon tank cover?
Thank you, and yes, I did
I’m having trouble with the kill switch? How where you able to do it , I have the same 2 kill switches as you
Is the ground under your cdi for your kill switch
Hopefully you still monitor this video. You set 2mm BEFORE TDC. Was that a step specific to the TRX250R or does that apply to all Two Strokes ie CR125? BTW, great vid!
Hi Mike, How is your HPI system holding up?
Do you have front fenders for it?
Yeeew!
I have the cr ignition on all my trx 250r's. They definitely start easier. Just no headlights
Yo yo throw a electron carb on there they say they are ready to go out of box no jetting issue I’m not sure there worth the money as I never tried one only herd rumors and they say in the 2 stroke world it’s the best I’m so tempted to do my banshee but I don’t want to take the risk haha take it for me ! Do a solid ! Could be a great review !
Cheers
He’s used one before there amazing
Are you going to dyno tune it? So we can see the hp it makes vs a stock 250
If I can get access to a dyno for 4 wheelers I will be doing dyno videos no doubt.
Great video on this install. You set your timing at 2mm BTDC. Is that what your motor calls for?
Once you ran this a while did you need to advance it or retard it at all?
I’m using this same type of HPI on my Yamaha TD2 motor. It calls for 1.8mm BTDC. I just wanted to know that you set yours up to what your manual says. Thanks again. Great job!! Thom
Do a can am build
I wish i had a quad like that, but i have a quad that doesn't start because it has a timing issue
Here in spain these kind of ignitions are most installed in 50cc mopeds that are so famous and people use to get them to 70 to 110cc with ignitions like these but here we have mvt, selettra, bk, italkit and these brands. Nice vid tho
I did notice in my research that a lot of mopeds popped up. Thank you for the info and for watching!
CR250 as in the CR250 dirtbike? On a TRX250R working properly? Ik this sounds dumb but I grew up on 4 stroke ATV's
Yes; the CR250 ignition is actually considered an upgrade.
@@MichaelSabo So the CR250 motor shares parts with a TRX250R?
@@abbybonilla4511 I don't know about the rest of the engine but people do put use the ignitions from CR250s on TRX250Rs
well damn maybe i should update my 04 yz250 ignition?
Where you from man? Should throw some paddles on that thing and come down to Glamis one of these days.
Man that is an all time bucket list item of mine. I'm all the way across the country in Philly PA
@@MichaelSabo it's worth the trip bro guarantee it.
Yeeeeeah
Why don't you start your bolts by hand.
This might seem like a stupid question to some of you guys but is ignition a synonym of stator?
Josh Frank ok thanks😅
An ignition has a CDI box a coil and a stator