This Japanese Build Order Stops The Fast Fortress In Its Tracks

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  • @GeneralGrom
    @GeneralGrom Před 3 lety +19

    3:05 this steal-micro and the taunt to his response is brilliant

  • @viffaria
    @viffaria Před 3 lety +19

    Your videos are a great inspiration and I've started playing aoe3 DE because of them! I just really wish you did a beginner kind of tutorial, your didactic is great! Thank you

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety +2

      Your wish is my command. I'll put it on the list.

  • @KernelKonig
    @KernelKonig Před 3 lety +5

    Love playing Japan, thanks for the video bruv!

  • @phoenixx51
    @phoenixx51 Před 3 lety +25

    Been really anticipating this one, thank you!
    Edit: I was just wondering why you don't go for torii gate, it gives you 1.6x xp for more shipments, a military building rickshaw, so saving that 170 wood for more shrines/yumi and 1 samurai to help out vs cav or take a couple of volleys which would save a musket or two. Ive been testing big shrine vs torii a lot lately and feel like torii just does more for you in the short term which is where japan has some problems.

    • @napoleon950
      @napoleon950 Před 3 lety

      probably because torii gate gives 1.6x xp for -military- xp. Not 1.6x for all xp
      not as big an effect

    • @phoenixx51
      @phoenixx51 Před 3 lety +3

      @@napoleon950 I've just tested it right now, It increases build xp for buildings, units and kill xp

    • @napoleon950
      @napoleon950 Před 3 lety

      @@phoenixx51 all buildings or only military ones?

    • @phoenixx51
      @phoenixx51 Před 3 lety

      @@napoleon950 All buildings and all units, so even including shrines and villagers

    • @napoleon950
      @napoleon950 Před 3 lety +3

      @@phoenixx51 damn that's good. I like it.

  • @shentastico7525
    @shentastico7525 Před 3 lety +1

    Good video now I know a new strategy, thanks bro, continue with the content

  • @GamersCommunityCH
    @GamersCommunityCH Před 3 lety +2

    Nice video, thx! I really like your content. Could you consider making a video about defending an early rush as Japan?

  • @slomonoaware
    @slomonoaware Před 3 lety

    Amazing, Aussie! I started using this build and even though it delays my rush by about 45 seconds, the midgame staying power is totally worth

  • @sr.lontra
    @sr.lontra Před 3 lety +4

    I'm looking foward to that Chinese video

  • @vegannegan9652
    @vegannegan9652 Před 3 lety +3

    I like to put the consulate on Dutch, send the consulate card as second shipment and age up with the big shrine (it gives 200 export). Then you can immediately send a bank wagon from your consulate when you are aged up.

    • @FrederickWillemV
      @FrederickWillemV Před 3 lety +5

      For a civ that is naturally strong in booming with their shrines, I think getting the bank so early may be too greedy. Also, this means you'll spend 93 wood per shrine (so 18 more) so more shrine time on wood needed. Lastly, the shrines are flexible and can be rebuilt with ease. The bank lacks both properties.

    • @vegannegan9652
      @vegannegan9652 Před 3 lety +1

      @@FrederickWillemV Consulate + banks means a 0.75 + 2.75 = 3.50 gold trickle. Also after a minute or so you can send a curch wagon which gives a nice xp trickle.
      To compensate for this greedy strat your first two age 2 shipments must be 5 ashi/yumi. Itherwise you are to vulnerable to rushes.

  • @todr9032
    @todr9032 Před 3 lety +13

    ship daymio before ashigaru since u can ship ashi direct on top of the daiymio

    • @KleinerGrenadier
      @KleinerGrenadier Před 3 lety +2

      The impact of the daymo is alot smaller then
      And if it dies to early its useless for the finall push

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety +4

      It's not a bad idea, but we mainly want to use the daimyo to boost the attack of our ashigaru, we are not so worried about having our units there on time or not. It's important we ship 5 ashi as our third and fourth shipment so that we can increase our mass and ward off any potential pressure from the enemy.

  • @dervakommtvonhinten517
    @dervakommtvonhinten517 Před 3 lety +3

    is there a reason why you mainly use your shrines to produce coin?
    i personally prefer to produce food with them cause there are plenty of gold mines you can gather from, but once your cherries run out you either have to transition to rice fields or waste a shipment on additional cherry gardens. so it seems to me having your "16 vills" gather food instead of coin would be the better use, no?

  • @sirjon103
    @sirjon103 Před 3 lety +4

    Take a sip for Everytime he says shrine

  • @SergioFredes
    @SergioFredes Před 3 lety +2

    Why British didn't mass some bows and push your musk with hit and run?
    With that he could avoid the pressure on settlers gathering food.

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety +2

      He was using his resources to age up and send the falconet shipment.

  • @johnpagley
    @johnpagley Před 3 lety

    Your training/tip videos are great! Where have you been... lol Keep up the good work!

  • @jabohonu
    @jabohonu Před 3 lety +6

    Can you do the chinese video about the Old Han reformes ? And or hand mortars ?
    And nice vídeo here

    • @KleinerGrenadier
      @KleinerGrenadier Před 3 lety

      Old han reforms 😅

    • @elkoku2002
      @elkoku2002 Před 3 lety

      thats late game, its a must if you get there, in DE old han was nerfed, but still worth it. hand mortars its a must to, always get at least 10 and no more that 25

  • @EstebanSastreSuarez
    @EstebanSastreSuarez Před 3 lety

    ffa is hilarious :3 looking forward to your games, Mr. Drongo

  • @ChaosSugarHD
    @ChaosSugarHD Před 3 lety

    And again great video man! Looking forward for the upcoming videos! :)
    Your content supports us a lot in improving yourself further in the game.
    Since the DE release i have tested all the different civs and I am still not sure which civ i should mainly focus to improve..
    Changing civilizations over and over again makes it difficult to learn the mechanics properly. Can you or someone else give me an advice which civ i should focus on to be competetive in 1v1s and still perfoming well in Team Games?

  • @vhaun
    @vhaun Před 3 lety +2

    Another great release with explanations as well...Recently seeing a lot of players using this Civ...no wonder why lol

  • @bardackx2
    @bardackx2 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome! and how do we defend against this?

  • @jordanrudderham7981
    @jordanrudderham7981 Před 3 lety +1

    “Stay chuned”

  • @KevoStylesK
    @KevoStylesK Před 3 lety +2

    hey buddy. following ur channel now since ur first video and i think ur doing a great job on these videos. i dont play a lot but i used to play pretty often back in the days. and you saif you want to talk abour japanese and india next. i used to play india like every single game back then. but since im playing the DE i fee like the european civs do have way more potential for lategame. all these new revolutions are pretty strong. playing india feels weak against them. do you have any idea how to beat european civs in the late game as india? thinking about ports, germans, sweden or dutch? besides a basic rush?

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety

      It can be quite difficult as India have difficulty vs heavy cannon / artillery spam. Your best bet is to go a combination of ghurka, zamburak and mixing sowar in the midgame, for the lategame, your best bet is to try and outmass them.

  • @roanwestraat9604
    @roanwestraat9604 Před 3 lety

    Hey Aussie! Thanks for these videos, definitely the best AOE3DE youtuber! I have a request, is there any way you could also make a simplified one view diagram for the build orders and time stamps for the expected result when you follow these build orders?

  • @delphidelion
    @delphidelion Před 3 lety +17

    Also, I wonder how many civs can stop a FF in its tracks.

    • @Joshuamrsnrub325
      @Joshuamrsnrub325 Před 3 lety

      does stopping a FF before before you even hit fortress count XD if so otto iro souix will handle it just fine haha

    • @KleinerGrenadier
      @KleinerGrenadier Před 3 lety

      Modt civs can ether stop it by a rush
      Or civs like durch or germans can harass and outmatch enemy in fortress age wirh superior stuff (mercs, ruyters, freehlans...)

    • @delphidelion
      @delphidelion Před 3 lety

      I'm actually finding a speed buffed and poison buffed jungle bows to be quite effective for inca. Poison is indiscriminate. The speed helps them a ton and you can switch to chimu if they switch to skirms or something.

  • @chrisstoner99
    @chrisstoner99 Před 3 lety

    salut from brazil bro, awesome content as always!! Bring a game with japanese that you reach age 4 pls

  • @ukon2062
    @ukon2062 Před 2 lety

    It's quite wired to see ashigaru in-game is heavy infantry as 足軽 means literally light infantry.
    As 足 means on foot and 軽 means light weight.

  • @F4xxN
    @F4xxN Před 3 lety +2

    Hey Aussie, thank you for the nice video, very well executed BO. I especially like the balance of having a strong economy and applying pressure - with that amount of ashigarus u can smash the 2 falc timings or any strong age3 cav-shipments. Would you consider this BO as useful to defend against strong rushes? 600w at first might be too slow for that.

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety +3

      Against a strong rush it would still be viable, as you can always use your town centre to kill units while you mass behind your TC.

  • @Suedehead__
    @Suedehead__ Před 2 lety

    @ Aussie_Drongo, thx for your brilliant work and your infinite inspiration to players like me below elo 1600!
    Would you recommend your strat with Japan vs. Dutch too or should some special adaptations take place in this case?

  • @godofmoi96
    @godofmoi96 Před 3 lety +1

    monks shouldnt be grouped with the ashi since ashi have superior speed without them

  • @solffie9613
    @solffie9613 Před 3 lety

    wow what a jewel I have stumbled up on

  • @thegeneral19
    @thegeneral19 Před 3 lety +2

    finally! Asian civs get some love

  • @outlaw4016
    @outlaw4016 Před 3 lety

    This is disgusting. I love it. Lmao.

  • @kevinessington8220
    @kevinessington8220 Před 3 lety

    I have lost to this move before! LOL. I am surprised the Brit player didn't scout more and switch to bows. It may not have saved him but it would have given him a chance.

  • @user-pt7wn8pm1j
    @user-pt7wn8pm1j Před 3 lety

    There is an analysis:
    For British 10 mask need 750F + 250G / 30s,1 village need 100F / 25s.
    With market tech level 2, food rate = (50/60) *1.3 / 1s, gold rate =(36/60) * 1.3 / 1s,
    As a result, British only need [750/30/1.3/(50/60)+100/25/1.3/(50/60)]=27 village for Food; 250/30/1.3/(36/60)=11 village for Gold.
    Then, British can keep 10 mask and 1 village. it does not take long time to achieve this.
    In age 2, British has 2 card to +15% HP and +15% weapon.
    After those 2 card British mask will be powerful than Japan mask with lower cost.
    By the way, British bow is powerful than Japan bow, too.
    So, I think if British try to fight in age 2, Japan can not win so easy.

  • @zboson
    @zboson Před 3 lety +3

    Usually when i try a japanese early push, i would go for 300w and japanese consulate after transition. Do you think, that this strategy is definitly better?

    • @carlossime6572
      @carlossime6572 Před 3 lety

      Its better... since the aoe3 all the Pro plays like that, consulade; 1 House and the card that increase the resources for the house

  • @adn17
    @adn17 Před 3 lety

    Hey Aussie, quality content as usual! I'm running out of expressions to praise you now :)
    It's a strategy that I've been using for a while and you cleared some of my doubts. I use to squeeze in the market but with your build, i realize the market is not that important.
    I'm happy you are showcasing some asian civs. I was just about to ask you before this video how do you deal with the default hotkeys. They require adaptation because the shrines for example is hotkey "E" whereas houses were "Q". For indians, I noticed it is "S".

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety +1

      When it comes to using default keys, it really takes a few games to adjust to them, my first game I kept bringing up the wonders when I wanted to build a house, but by the 10th game or so, I was very comfortable. Edit: also - market is definitely a viable choice to build with 600 wood and get the berry upgrades.

    • @adn17
      @adn17 Před 3 lety

      @@AussieDrongo I just won a ranked and non-ranked game with this strat :D instant feedback

  • @delphidelion
    @delphidelion Před 3 lety +3

    Not to be a stickler, but the vowels of Japanese are "Ah"a "ee"i "ooo"u "ey"e "oh"o, so it is "die-myoh" for daimyo

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety +5

      Haha thanks Dave. I'll try to remember, die-myoh. I doubt I will though!

  • @Drachenfurie
    @Drachenfurie Před 3 lety +5

    Please make a video on how to become Hokage next.

  • @samwilcox10
    @samwilcox10 Před 3 lety

    Awesome job dude keep up the good work? Might I suggest getting started on Twitch to broaden your platform a bit? You'll grow very quickly if doing both YT and Twitch. Cheers 🤘

  • @colonnellomccandless4229
    @colonnellomccandless4229 Před 3 lety +3

    Why didn't the brit go for lb? Macro?

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety

      He was doing a brit semi FF which masses muskets and ships 2 falcs. Longbow don't pair so well with falconets.

    • @colonnellomccandless4229
      @colonnellomccandless4229 Před 3 lety

      @@AussieDrongo Thnx m8!

  • @Mhzuin
    @Mhzuin Před 3 lety

    if possible, make a video on how to play Lakotas. I just love the civ, but I'm having a lot of problems in keeping up the pace with my economy in the long run. I know it is a good civ to play rush, but I wonder If it works as well in treaty.

  • @gamefreak203
    @gamefreak203 Před 3 lety

    thanks for the vid, going to try this

  • @kodystutzman5509
    @kodystutzman5509 Před 3 lety +1

    so what do you do if you run this strat and then your opponent just happened to mass 30+ longbows.. just die?

    • @FLASH432FULL
      @FLASH432FULL Před 3 lety +1

      Stop ashi production, make stable, more vills on coin, and make 5 nagis

  • @jdnetwork-reselling
    @jdnetwork-reselling Před 3 lety +1

    am i suppose to be gathering with mostly all vills at the start ? back in the original i thought the meta was all on gathers at start and leave 1 for the creates - also please do a vid on the British live stock meta thats so broken right now

    • @LaddRusso91
      @LaddRusso91 Před 3 lety +2

      Just one vill on crates is way too slow. You want to start building vills as soon as possible, same with the consulate

  • @BoTisHerE1
    @BoTisHerE1 Před 3 lety +1

    what happens if he had longbows instead of musk ?

  • @trajanomarco2173
    @trajanomarco2173 Před 3 lety

    Very good, but you could have made some clubs too. You had 400 xp. That extra siege can save you.

  • @arti4979
    @arti4979 Před 3 lety +1

    But what if u start with only one cherry orchard?

  • @rishabhwatts1676
    @rishabhwatts1676 Před 3 lety

    You forgot to send in a hatamoto with your export!

  • @KingTiger10588
    @KingTiger10588 Před 3 lety

    that port consulate tho :3

  • @BanditoCGET
    @BanditoCGET Před 3 lety +1

    What is the reason of putting shines on hunts? Are they like trops and gather food? Or is it just so you can see if the enemy sets are gathering there/line of sight?

    • @phoenixx51
      @phoenixx51 Před 3 lety +10

      A shrine can attract up to 4 nearby animals, making them unable to be hunted by your opponent and increasing the trickle rate on your shrines by 0.07 per animal it has attracted.

    • @todr9032
      @todr9032 Před 3 lety +1

      shrine should be on wood or gold execpt if you are running out of food on the berries since villager gather faster food

    • @abcdefgdude2843
      @abcdefgdude2843 Před 3 lety +1

      @@todr9032 Shrines gather wood slower as well

  • @jurajmalatin5191
    @jurajmalatin5191 Před 3 lety

    how about in stead of japan. isolation shipping xbows for a bit earlier push?

    • @FrederickWillemV
      @FrederickWillemV Před 3 lety

      I tried this and have to say it works quite well, especially because the crossbowmen you receive have +10% hp and attack, outclassing opposing crossbowmen. If you ship the 300 export shipment later, you can also switch to japan cheaply afterwards.

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety +2

      On water maps you need to ship the Portuguese fishing boats, but on land maps, it is an option if you wish to delay your isolation.

  • @Joshuamrsnrub325
    @Joshuamrsnrub325 Před 3 lety

    nooooooooooo captions are off i can't watch this in chem anymore :(

  • @sergeantmemeswaraj7048

    u didnt even mention luck of the seven gods card :(

  • @santosjavi
    @santosjavi Před 3 lety

    Why we need the 300 wood card? It's not just better another random age 4 card?

    • @raitaitai3427
      @raitaitai3427 Před 3 lety +1

      If u will reach age 4 most will rush in age 2 or 3 so wood can be helpfull

    • @hardlyyr6739
      @hardlyyr6739 Před 3 lety +3

      Its more of a mind game card imo. It can trick opponent into thinking your doing smthing else. Club rush, early tp, other wierd off meta stuff.

    • @santosjavi
      @santosjavi Před 3 lety

      Oh, ok, I’m just starting with DE and I’m playing japanese, so I found myself never using this card; so having it in my deck was kind of wtf

  • @iwersonsch5131
    @iwersonsch5131 Před 3 lety

    How effective is the first builder on a wonder compared to additional builders?

    • @FrederickWillemV
      @FrederickWillemV Před 3 lety +3

      I tested this myself and found that the age up time for the number of villagers is 1:50 for 1 villager and 10 seconds less per additional villager (so long as they all start simultaneously)

    • @iwersonsch5131
      @iwersonsch5131 Před 3 lety

      @@FrederickWillemV So does this mean that adding an 8th villager is more efficient than adding a 7th one, as it adds less villager time for the same speedup?

  • @Roronoa_ZoroX
    @Roronoa_ZoroX Před 3 lety

    Market ?

  • @jeromemartel3916
    @jeromemartel3916 Před 3 lety +1

    I hate playing vs japan. It's like a ticking time bomb, the more you wait the more you likely to loose. It is so a passive civ yet put so much pressure on the opponent because of that time factor. It's just not a good healthy civ design for an RTS.

    • @dimitrisoikonomou3568
      @dimitrisoikonomou3568 Před 3 lety +2

      Play Iroquis and defeat them in less than 10 minutes... Russians devestate them as well. Its mid to late game civ, if you rush or outscale Japan, is an exepnsive xp piniata...

    • @jeromemartel3916
      @jeromemartel3916 Před 3 lety

      @@dimitrisoikonomou3568 what about quick search? You can't counter pick. And most recent tourny games where japan is played, japan win too.

    • @ghjmar1
      @ghjmar1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jeromemartel3916 just play Germans well and Japan is no problem

    • @FrederickWillemV
      @FrederickWillemV Před 3 lety +2

      Japan is a naturally booming civ due to their shrines. That means it has a significant advantage against turtle strats. The best way to counter the japanese is by pressuring heavily and eliminating shrines, which prevents them from training troops. Make sure to keep building your own eco in the meantime if your all-in fails.

  • @babbulvideos
    @babbulvideos Před 3 lety

    wanna play 1vs1? i think i can beat that ashigaru rush taunt 21

  • @Koshak87
    @Koshak87 Před 3 lety

    What game is this?

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  Před 3 lety +1

      Age Of Empires 3: Definitive Edition. You can find it on steam here: store.steampowered.com/app/933110/Age_of_Empires_III_Definitive_Edition/

  • @milosstojanovic4623
    @milosstojanovic4623 Před 3 lety

    Thats why i dont play online games, every game is rush rush rush, breaks the enjoyment in playing RTS game, and also avoids everything that game has to offer. I prefer sandbox style, improving army steadily, and using everything what game has to offer.

    • @ThePresentation010
      @ThePresentation010 Před 2 lety

      That's noob play.
      Skill is is a speed thing.
      You won't find high levels taking 2hrs to do things.
      Obviously high levels came from playing like noobs. Just got faster and better.

    • @milosstojanovic4623
      @milosstojanovic4623 Před 2 lety

      @@ThePresentation010 nahh, nope.

  • @jorgeguerra12
    @jorgeguerra12 Před 2 lety

    Japan lame comming in age chat

  • @watanabeyou3446
    @watanabeyou3446 Před 3 lety

    wtf with that macro