How to Avoid Surveillance...With Your Phone | Christopher Soghoian | TED Talks
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- Who is listening in on your phone calls? On a landline, it could be anyone, says privacy activist Christopher Soghoian, because surveillance backdoors are built into the phone system by default, to allow governments to listen in. But then again, so could a foreign intelligence service ... or a criminal. Which is why, says Soghoian, some tech companies are resisting governments' call to build the same backdoors into mobile phones and new messaging systems. Learn how some tech companies are working to keep your calls and messages private.
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Without watching this video simply (1)turn phone off
(2) Remove battery if you can. (3)Throw directly into toilet.
(4)Walk away.
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Just skip to #3. It works
dont you think, it will block the toilet?
kackmalwieder no one said “flush.” And I guess if you have a iPhone 7 or up its supposed be waterproof? I’m happy w my 6 plus..
Celia Cronje I don’t know about Hip Hop, but one of mine took a dive from my back pocket when getting ready to “squat” 🤷🏻♀️
Encryption is a real tool, and wiretapping is a well known practice.
Too bad we can't level the playing field and make all politicians calls publicly available.
Too bad WhatsApp is owned by a data mining company now.
The US government knows everything on the internet.
Encryption is the solution but it’s not fully implemented.
Let's do it!!ha ha ha!
100% if they believe this is what we should do they should lead by example.
People In The Sixties: *The Government Will Wiretap Your Home*
People Now: *Hey Wire Tap, show me pictures of cats.*
Alexia, Go make me a sandwich.
Summer Love 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣PERFECT!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Hilarious
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Then how do you explain Facebook reading our private messages?
video is obviously sponsored by dark powers
That's it? This wasn't a "How To." This was a "You Probably Should."
+soulstealer29a The how to is simple: use apps like WhatsApp, Apple's text app and FaceTime.
+XDki113r You are right, but there is a bit more to it than that (don't backup texts to iCloud, don't use a weak 4-digit phone passcodes or fingerprint unlocking, hope that Apple didn't put a backdoor in their key-server, etc). That's if you want full security, at least.
+soulstealer29a Look up what TED really is about and it might make a little more sense. These talks are not necessarily step 1-5 "how to/tutorial" kind of deal. These talks/speakers is everything from professors to a regular sculpture-artist sharing their ideas. TED's slogan is after all "Ideas worth spreading". To me, this particular idea is simple; Be aware of surveillance and know that you already have tools that can help protect you. Hope this clarifies a bit.
+HandullDTD If the texts are encrypted as it says in the talk, backup'd or not it won't change anything, they're still encrypted. and about 4-digit phone, that's just an issue overall.
I'd also like to know why fingerprint unlocking is unsafe, I'm not very informed about them.
+XDki113r Your iMessages are end to end encrypted, but when they are backed up to iCloud the encryption isn't as secure, and Apple has backdoors into iCloud data. Anything stored in iCloud can easily be obtained by Apple for any govt agency if a legal warrant is supplied. If you are especially concerned about the security of the data on your device, you want to turn off iCloud backup.
Additionally, a weak point in end to end system is access to the device. If you are arrested, for example, and the police legally have access to your phone, they can access anything that is encrypted if they can get in. It is well known that the fingerprint reader can be hacked with a good quality casting of your fingerprint. While in custody, again as an example, it would be easy for someone to lift your prints off something in the holding cell you touch, or even just off the back of the phone itself. It would be a lot of work, but if they wanted it, they could get at your data. An 'easy' work around to this would be to shutdown your phone if you knew you were about to be arrested. On startup, the fingerprint login would be disabled, and they would have to crack your passcode. If it is only a 4-digit passcode, it is relatively weak.
Finally, it is worth explaining what I meant by Apple's key server. I saw a great video about this, but I don't recall who it was by. Imagine Alice wants to send Bob an iMessage. To do so, she uses Bob's public key, stored in Apple's key server to encrypt the message so that only Bob can decrypt it. However, Alice also wants to be able to see the message on any of her other devices with iMesssage, and Bob wants to see the message on all of his devices with iMessage. So in practice, each device has it's own public/private key pair, with the public key stored on Apple's key server. If Alice and Bob each have two devices, then Alice really ends up sending her message three times. Twice to Bob and once to herself. Now, Apple claims there is no backdoor into their key server, however they also haven't provided any tools to allow people to verify this fact. Imagine the NSA wanted a backdoor into Alice's conversations. All Apple would have to do is list a third device as belonging to Alice. Alice would then unwitting also send her message to this third device, but since it wasn't one of her devices, and instead was owned by the NSA, they could now decrypt and read the message on their end. It is the one little flaw in Apple's "we give you true end to end encryption" statement. It's a slight oversimplification, but it's good enough I think for posting here.
Apple and Facebook are securing our talks - Don't make me laugh.
LMMFAO Exactly!!! That's where I knew this here is BS after hearing that...
Do your own research,it will shock you to the core,,facebook is owned by the C.I.A.,its a perfect way to get ALL YOUR INFORMATION
@@jasonpettit9984 I remember that. It was much cheaper with Facebook than it was to buy all that high tech equipments. People tell on themselves on social media so it's much easier.
What do you think ed snowden is all about you fucking moron
People like you dont deserve too be free oh right your not your just another human cattle
I use it as a phone, not my bank and credit cards. Also my dog carry's it around all day so the government can keep an eye on him for me.
That's sounds cute. But spying is against your rights. And wait till someone misuses your info... and they will...
Lolololololol, tooo funny.. Government just merged with Google no kidding! DES has with Google
What is DES?
@J Andrews DES Department of Economic Security
@@waltlewis9194 You're absolutely right. They have already posted tons of pics on the DHS Website of his dog pooping without his permission!
At NO point does he give any useable advice. A laughable speech.
Exactly.
Thanks I won't waist my time. God bless
full of lies too .
yeah, misleading title TED.
Well that's not true I did not know that those green icons mean encryption and we can use them so now I will!
ad's are so annoying these days. this one lasted 6:17 ...
OpiatedBliss You didn't get it, he's saying that the whole talk is an ad ;)
+OpiatedBliss are you that stupid ?
yup
+VadimkaMr The ad was one second longer than the video? WOW!
sweiland75
wow so smart
This is quite true, when a backdoor is built into things. It makes it where ANYONE can break into them, not just the people that built the devices.
This message brought to you by Apple & Facebook
So to avoid surveillance, rely on the companies that have shown a complete disregard for our privacy in the first place. Got it.
What if he's just a pawn and everything he's telling us is to make it easier to spy on us?
+White Guy #3
Pretty much if you want higher change of privacy, avoid american and their allie's/russian/chinese/german/swedish companies.
+White Guy #3
What if you are just a pawn and everything you are talling us is to make it easier to spy on us?
Sebastian trust no one,it was doomed the minute big brother the Orwellian state,there is no hope really,nothing will get better,we're slowly being told and made how to think and communicate,your HD TV is a 2 way transmitter,just think about that for a while!!!
Mike Hoxard, they can use most toasters nowadays to listen in on you. Think about that
I worked for a phone co, TRUST ME or DONT, i really dont CARE but. Its TRUE. Our voting machines are the easiest to hack as well.
How did this guy make it on TED talks? First of all anyone who truly knows whatsapp knows it is NOT secure.
CIA has deep pockets.
Well, he's not entireley wrong. He mentioned that it cannot 'easily' be wiretapped (i.e. like the old phone lines where you literally tap into the hardwire). He didn't mention anything about Whatsapp getting to your data in THEIR end.
Whatsapp is owned by FACEBOOK; Facebook is owned by Greylock Partners; Greylock Partners is owned by In-Q-Tel; In-Q-Tel is owned by the CIA
liquidbraino you are vastly misinformed LMFAOOOOO
@@princeswagger1able Well what's the correct info then?
I laughed when he said whatsapp is secure to us. FB gets in enough trouble on its 9wn with its Hacker-haven, messenger. He never said how to secure our phones, he implied we Trust free apps that t rack us everywhere we go.
Very good Ted. Hackers aren't usually outsiders, but are Cable & Phone company employees with special knowledge of and acess to communication systems. Everyone should also avoid ATM's other than those located at your bank. There is a lot of hacking at the eaisly accessable unguarded ATM's found in fast food restaurants, gas stations, laundry mats etc. First red flag is the antenna on these.
This guy really believes using iMessage and WhatsApp is how to avoid being spied on?
LOL, wow man.
I know, right? Either he think we're stupid or he really believes it.
@@shaunmasi2185 enlighten me. Why's WhatsApp not good? Thought it was end to end encrypted?
@@hanzo7616 Great question.
1. There's no actual proof of such encryption other than a message and a picture of a QR code.
2. Even if it's indeed encrypted, Facebook (which owns Whatsapp) would have the encryption key. So at least you're protected from your government... But not from Facebook... which can and will still sell your messages and data to the government anyway.
That is how Facebook will become the world's pseudo world government my friend.
Well, one of the ways.
this TED talk is full of disinformation, or mostly out dated information. it was factual at least from 2018 that all of those big tech giants are collecting massive amount of personal data, analysing it and sharing it with god knows who. this is a fact. not a theory.
It's like people who don't believe that all of those smart devices sold to you by amazon (Alexa ?) and Apple are not wired to the microphone, taking hints from whatever you say when you are near your device (almost all day long) and using it for either ad re-targeting on 3rd party platforms or even worse
Did I miss the part about how to avoid surveillance!?!
Click Bait, straight up.
Johnny K yep. We all missed it.
Yes you did miss it the green icons at the end of the video
Yet all silicon valley companies were on Edward Snowdens list for NSA intelligence
That's it I'm going back to my cup and string.
Rich Klein lol lol lol
Lol We used tin cans and string :-)
Alex Mala It “would” be more private.. I’m disappointed everything has to be done through email.. Does anyone know how to get FB turn off all of my past posts? I don’t know what employers are looking for and understand they search social media?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@@holdingmytongue5508 just go to your privacy settings and make sure it says that your posts can only be seen by friends. That way if someone looks for your Facebook that is not your friend, they have very limited access to what they can see
The video does a good job of reaching to the general public and raising awareness, despite the lack of substantial advice. More people need to know about the necessity, benefits and feasibility of encryption in daily interaction.
Except he forgot that WhatsApp is owned by a data miner now.
Encryption is the solution to the privacy calamity. Yet, it is not fully implemented.
Sponsored by the NSA.
triforcelink :: You are right 😀
Sponsored by Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Symantec
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes...since ,I thing 2005 when g bush signed ex order demanding all cell carriers record all calls from everyone to everyone
Actually it goes back to 1998 and a document signed by Bill Clinton called Presidential Decision Directive 63; also known as the "Critical Infrastructure Protection Plan". A slick name to make it seem like their original intention was to protect us but if you actually read the entire document (almost impossible to find now in it's complete form) it becomes obvious that they plan all along was to take control of tech companies by "offering" them protection in exchange for having a certain degree of control. And if they refuse they'll suddenly find themselves getting attacked by hackers; credit card numbers stolen etc. until they come crying back to the feds begging them for protection when it was the feds attacking them all along. It's no different than how the Mafia operates with their "protection rackets". They didn't start recording all cell phone calls until 2003 with the Carnivore system, later renamed DCS1000 which was run by the FBI. Carnivore became obsolete when the NSA launched the Trapwire system some time between 2006 & 2010 & then the Prism system in 2007 but I think those two programs are currently running in parallel and I think Trapwire is more a collection effort; Prism is more dissemination of information to intelligence agencies on an instantaneous but "as needed" basis. The NSA has nodes and listening posts scattered all over the world so that there's no way you could ever shut them down - even if you blew up one of their buildings all traffic would just get rerouted to another one. Apparently the most recent and most high tech facility is the one in Utah but I trained not far from the one at this location: 33°24'43.60"N 82°10'7.54"W.
Yes cant trust
NSA
TED, people and organisations like yours are the reason behind the problems that we have with tech giant today.
And thank you for telling us what we already know. I just can't wait to start digging into the toolbox in my pocket. I just wish you told us what tools we're looking for.
Does that come in episode 2?
EXACTLY. THIS DUDE TOLD US NOTHING
Privacy left the building at the end of the last century.
Is it April Fool's day already ?
+Yoann Nicod What??
This video is a joke
@@TheTruth181818 You poor naive Summer Child.
Maybe ignorance is bliss...
@@tintintb1980 yes and Earth is flat I suppose ?
@@TheTruth181818 No. That would be crazy talk...
I avoid surveillance by not having a cell phone..problemo solved
The only way to go.
They survelle land phones, too.
And yet you have youtube and a youtube account where you can also be supervised 🤣
will you please suggest options for cell phones?
Fear not whom can take your life rather fear whom that can steal your souls. Stay True to the WORD believers!!!!
graceanneful ... and bird is the word... 🦅
Amen
Yes keep us in remembrance. Thanks
Another religious person hiding behind his computer to preach God,
Why don’t you take your fearless message and peach to people at their homes like Jehovahs Witnesses, or Mormons. Stop chiming in on subjects that are or have nothing to do will religion.
Really? Religion? That's the fix in 2020?Your delusion is pathetic
best stand up comedy ever.....
merece um Oscar
How much did Apple pay this dude?
One thing I do know about Apple which is true is that they are the only phones on the market which are TEMPEST shielded. Which means that they'll survive an EMP or HERF or CME. The NSA initiated the TEMPEST program. I only know this because I trained less than a mile from here: 33°24'43.60"N 82°10'7.54"W
ALL of our equipment had the TEMPEST program stamp on it - a small metal plate with NSA TEMPEST certification markings on it.
Millions
@@jeffreyschnoldt5388 Apple is too cheap. Maybe, 1 free iPhone? Lol
2 Apples & a Banana. 😅
Nothing. Do or die
This is WHY i hate Technology.
Absurdly enough, only 2-3 years after this TED talk was published, apple started doing exactly that to their customers - tracking their every click, application usage, geolocation etc.. and sharing that with god knows who else in addition to probably many 3rd parties, few among them must be government agencies.
To add an an insult to injury, in 2020 the forced and sneaky installation of a tracking app (Corona tracking app. hmm...sure) on every iPhone the moment the owner of that phone decided to upgrade his iOS, an action that in many cases is mandatory in order to be able to keep using the offered apps, and even worse making this tracking feature a built-in native module in iOS so you can not remove it, should you wish not to be tracked. that component was installed without any consent of the user of the phone - and what is even more raging, that update that took so long to arrive and that many users were expecting would fix multiple major issues with the phone, did not fix anything - probably was a click bait to have people install the tracking component.
Call me a tin foil hat but all of those tech giants like the big G, FB and for sure Apple are all human mass surveillance sub-contractors in a guise of service providers, and they don't exclude anybody - it's like all of us are criminal without committing any crime.
Until some time in history - in order to have somebody tap into your privacy was requiring you to commit a major crime and them using a special warrant - today those who wish to provoke our privacy are doing it at their whim.
From what I recall, Facebook is willing to give out user data to the FBI or NSA willingly. Possibly sending data is encrypted but what ever content hosted by Facebook can be forfeited.
drancov ၂၄၆
Give out? Look at where their startup funding came from. Read about project Lifelog. It was always a government project. They government doesn't need to ask for what they already control.
The CIA created; owns and controls facebook.
liquidbraino I read (not that it is all TRUTH, CIA was first and largest investor w 500K into FB..
"By using Facebook, you are consenting to have your personal data transferred to and processed in the United States."
Therefore, we are forfeiting all our constitutional rights by joining.. This is technology.. Does anyone know how (can you tell me how) to delete FB completely? I have dozens of hacked accounts I would like to see go away.
@@holdingmytongue5508 SO you think u signed the constitution
He's a liar. They can track any phone .....
If this is the bar of giving a ted talk then I guess anyone can give a ted talk. He spoke what everyone knows. Nothing extra.
No, he's telling us to trust our phones
When leaving shut off location, next stay away from toll booths, my favorite, change your number every 60 to 90 days.
Still wondering if it's April's 1st! I really am, not even joking.
What did we learn in this talk, honestly?!
That we are all being monitored and Facebook and Apple are protecting our privacy...which is a lie lets face it.😂 This has got to be a double bluff or something. Was expecting to find out some valuable information here. Nevermind moving on...😀
georgie porgie wozere
.. valuable information, got it...
Anyone surveilling me would get really bored really fast and stay bored for a really long time.
southernexposure123 Ha!
Flood them with recipes for pie
southernexposure123 information is power. History proves it.
They'll also know exactly how to manipulate you. Think outside the box
I never did understand the mentality of people who think it's OK for the government to listen to their calls since they aren't doing anything wrong. Those people are stupid beyond belief.
Excellent discussion.
4:16
everyone's playing lol / dota
based chinese hackers
oh yeah and to think that Facebook isn't scanning and collecting your Whatsapp stuff is utter, glistening ignorance. They have the encryption keys for the encryption used. And in every case they will and do hand over relevant information to private contractors, government agencies or may even have a backdoor since Apple among others denies giving access. This talk is a wash - at best.
+Random Schmid
A roomful of people with their hands on the mouse is not a roomful of hackers, of either kind.
He is talking about "chinese hackers" at that moment in the video. Bad photo, I agree
+sdsd33 We don't know how it works, and neither do you, because it's *proprietary.*
All you can know is how they *claim* it works, and if you think they'd be disclosing the existence of backdoors and intentional design flaws, then you are as much of a fool as they take you for.
sdsd33
Well, silly me for assuming Facebook is looking to make a profit. But of course, they bought Whatsapp because it protects your privacy so well, your facts convinced me after all.
+Random Schmid you went quite specific in that speculation, careful there.
"Everyone! Please keep doing what the natural progression of technology already has you doing. Thank you."
Hi Siri... Alexa... okay Google...
Wow! A refrigerator with wifi...
Omg I can use my fingerprint to unlock my phone (I wonder whose database that's stored on)...
Better yet let me unlock my house with my phone...
Or let you implant a chip under my skin containing all my banking and health information...
And I will sell you on it by saying it will make your life more secure and easier.
Those of us who were employed on US Gov't contracts over 60 years ago knew all this before the "digital age". It was ASSUMED that whenever we picked up the phone to communicate, that someone other than the intended call recipient was always listening, and we were always mindful of the WW2 axiom "Loose Lips Sink Ships". This was a habit that extended even to normal conversations when no job related topics were discussed.
Yay freedom
This video is so relevant. I'm going to do exactly what he says.
"A conversation, about nothing" *Jerry Seinfeld voice*
😂😂😂
How is encryption and digital surveillance a conversation about nothing? You're just too fucking dumb to understand any of it so you criticize what you don't understand.
*You're
... and so! When was the last time that anyone's been busted publicly for hacking? 3xcept for Assange, and the other 2, whoever is detected is absorbed and recruited to detect... go figure...
What if he works for the government?
+Jauhwny So??
It was more of a joke
Jauhwny ..he does!
Thanks. Now I feel better.
Good advice. Thanks Rosario
Hey Ted, I think that was dis-information.
Yea it's weird, it dont feel right
Lies!
what a waste of TED time and also mine. this sucked.
All of them suck.
THANKS
Thank you.❤️
he said the tools
whatsapp, facetime, etc
what he means is that these tools are actually more secure than regular phone calls or text messages witch governments arround the world have already mastered
What must we eat to believe you.
There is no safe telephone communications anymore.
WOW! THIS IS GOOD TO UNDERSTAND!
I don't feel they need to be in use to record. I've had SEVERAL occasions where an ad, suggested video or website appears on a different device after I had merely discussed the topic to physical people. It's very creepy.
If people want actual encrypted chat on their smartphone, use something like Wickr or OTR.
+Ratty Use these instead Wickr is a sad excuse for true encryption software. SMSSecure, RedPhone, & Tox.
If you need a smarphone, you are giving up knowledge.
Knowledge to know when you're being duped.
6:16 The time has come to be gone...
But it's
Hard to Ramb)e on
Hard 2 Rambo on
Thankyou
how to avoid surveillance on phone uploaded to an info grabbing site linked directly to google, makes sense @TED
The government would be so bored with my conversations.
idiotic description and title
Hehehe😊
Thank you. TOR
Helpful. I get beeps on my landlines. I figure its the sheriff and cops. Been going on for almost two decades wherever I go. It sucks.
Funny how the very apps he says use, are owned by the gov. ~smh
what a crock
This was a good ad
It could be a good idea to look into whom is behind the Ted talk thing
Seems everyone is watching everybody, I wish it would be more easier to stop a lot of violence with the great technology and save our beautiful world 🌹🌍🏜🏞
Shameless Apple promo 😂
Correct!!! 100 percent.
Awesome
There are too many TED Talks. That's why so many of them are lousy.
Never even mentioned the Signal app. Snowden approved
My understanding is that the surveillance actually takes place on the network level as opposed to the device. By this I mean the actual network infrastructure (Cell Towers) is vulnerable.
Choose encryption software: email, chat, social media, browsers etc
He saying have private talks in nature.
If you want to mantain your privacy it may come to that.
By far the worst TED talk I've ever viewed. Was more like a commercial for iPhones.
Most all media is to try to sell you something, even though most of it is either BS or junk you don't need.
Amen hip hop. Thanks for your intelligent opinion. thanks Rosario
This very sad but true
The reason we live in dangerous times is because of the government
4:20. Look ! The Chinese is hacking USA Dota server ! No wonder sven is overpowered !
You are stupid, this has been known for ages. China has been hacking into everything for mabey 10-15 years.
Dude they playin battleship
There is no way to avoid being watched....Technolgy is way more advanced then regular folks realize!
Don't talk on the phone unless I'm ordering pizza 😂
This was one of the worst TED talks in years. There was no research, no evidence for his claims, no examples of what can/is being done. Simply an idea that wasn't even worth sharing.
Wackzingo No it wasn’t there have been many worse.
That's it ? That is all of his advice, use what's up and face time ?
Very mundane talk. He could at least talk about VPN services and TOR network and it's future iterations.
Or the cryptophone...Ever heard of it? Does it work?
Yup
What are the encryption tools????? How do you do it?
Its bollucks..now the providers can hack..its going indirect now to the highest bidder..the other guys lost money and data thats all..
This guy just made all more scared?
But,no solutions.
What I learned was not to trust any new devices. If I want to send a secure message I will use the post office and write a letter. It is still a Federal offense punishable with prison and/or fines if.someone were to open your letter.
If ur on probation do telephone companies have to let them (pigs) listen in to any/everything for the duration of your probation?
This would be a great video if it actually showed how to actually encrypt your mobile devices(phones) like it says it will do in the title of this video,but it doesn't! Thumbs Down!
What tools?!?!?! Say an example man!
+A.S A.S - PGP 5.5.3i freeware for email, start with that!
Alex A what about smart phones, smarty pants hmmm ?
***** Well you can send email from your smart phone?
+A.S A.S - I did a google search and came up with this one for iPhones... iPGMail
+A.S A.S
He did name some in the presentation. He named WhatsApp, FaceTime (iOS) and iMessage (iOS).
That makes perfect sense. Great talk. Thank you.
I was spied on by our government. I was so scared and freck out that I actually ended up in a hospital. I guess we are no longer the "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave".
This guy said facetime can't be hacked ,🤣
Downvoted not for the message, but for the Apple commercial with lazy WhatsApp slapped just for sake of not being accused. And yeah - I might be wrong, but that's how it looks like.
+moristar1101 Whatsapp is not safe either. Facebook use its data to offer tailored services, for instance, ads and friends suggestions. I'd use only Telegram if my friends switch. Now the only reason I use Whatsapp is something like half of my friends using it and denying the fact Telegram is way safer.
If you would write the plan of his speech it will be something like:
1. Our communications are not safe, but corrupted by design.
2. IT companies did it differently
3. Hey, look, FaceTime and iPhone messaging are afe!
4. OK, maybe also WhatsApp, Facebook, you know...
5. Let's all use those things! I mean - buy iPhone!
There were no real data to support his point of view, no other safe communications. Nothing. Just this apple commetial for those who are afraid just few days after Apple conference. Niiice....
***** fanboy of what? :) Of Notapple?
Dude. You do realize that you're accusing me of fanboyism because I didn't like a guy stepping onto a TED canvas to say that we are watched but iPhone is just a safe telephone?
+moristar1101 Apples imessage is probably not secure: www.wired.com/2015/09/apple-fighting-privacy-imessage-still-problems/
Almost four years later... a lot has changed
Stalkers are everywhere all the time. This has been the case since the 1960s.