Why you’re not a Mixed Martial Artist
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- “When should I start training in MMA instead of single martial arts?” Questions like this are truly confounding to me for a lot of reasons.
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Shanghai based MMA Coach and Kunlun Fight Combat League ringside commentator Ramsey Dewey answers questions from the viewers. Leave your questions in the comments below!
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"Six days shalt thou get out there and train, and on the seventh, rest."
Amem
Great picture, Mishkola. Clint Eastwood was at his awesomest in the Dollar trilogy of spaghetti westerns. I may just have to rewatch For A Few Dollars More during my day of rest.
Bible reference
Low key, I am doing that. Monday through Friday training then relaxing on the weekend.
The problem is, I can't find a single "MMA gym" that teaches "MMA". Every single one I've looked into has separate classes for Boxing, Wrestling, MT, BJJ, etc.
That is for good reason. While I have seen many MMA gyms that offer an "MMA skills" class. It is usually based on wrestling on the cage, ground striking, shootboxing and techniques that "blend" the other disciplines. However teaching MMA as one discipline is not really possible, unless you simply ignore that you borrow technique from other practices. You must learn these disciplines in isolation the majority of the time. The dedication, time, focus and expertise needed to master grappling arts, and striking arts respectively calls for specific focus. There is so much to learn that attempting to just learn it all at once would be overwhelming and it would certainly lead to a shallow game, lacking many intricacies offered in the respective disciplines of each martial art.
That’s how it’s supposed to be.
Mine does teach a bunch of classes, but has only 1 class a week for MMA and for adults, i'll probably do kickboxing and bjj until then.
An “MMA class” would be difficult to structure. Not including sparring it would be heavily wrestling and grappling based, probably with gloves on. However the wrestling and BJJ classes, in an MMA gym, should be taught within the context of MMA.
Same
I wrestled in highschool as well as doing muay thai. In 2003 I tried mma and was very good at it. MMA is it's own thing and I learned that. But the fact that I had previously cross trained helped me very much. Because MMA is a lot of cross training. But one MMA gym teaches you everything. Otherwise I would have to pay for 3 or 4 different gyms.
I "made my own gym" at a local park, I meet up with friends who train martial arts (or some that never did it but want to learn) and train once a week every sunday. I can do pretty much everything except for ground fighting.
That’s awesome! Just a few comments above this, a guy was complaining that you have to belong to some kind of “privileged class” to start your own school. What utter nonsense. If you have friends willing to train with you and enough room to move, you can train!
I feel you on that. I can only work out at home and I don't have much equipment - I don't even own a set of weights. However, I do like the challenge of making do with the little I have.
I was there once. I'm still not a great grappler, but I've learned a lot. Best thing I can say is make friends with people who have a great ground game and grapple the shit out of them.
@@GuitarGuy057 Second this. I'm friends with a wrestler who outweighs me by about 40 pounds, and I improve so much when I grapple him.
Question, has your territory been invaded by "Undefeated Street Fighters" and Mcdojo Larpers yet?
“Stop saying what you can’t do and start doing what you can.”
This just fixed so many problems in my life. Damn Ramsey is really the father figure I never had lol
I knew a guy who insisted he would be a good sword fighter because he watched the Conan movies and they were choreographed by a real sword dude. Seriously. He never even trained the moves he was watching. Just sitting down and watching an actor do stuff in a movie = kick ass skills.
I think the Conan movies were choreographed by the original Star Wars trilogy choreographer-- who was one of the greatest Olympic Swordsman of the 1930s-60s (back when that sport was actually scary) & trained in classical Historical European Martial Arts in his free time. So he's got a Point (get it?)
Max holloway first t fights in the UFC he had no training he only played UFC on playstation. I had a friend like this as a kid, he could do about anything we saw on kung fu movies first try
@@P.Subaeruginosa you meant no striking training
@@gaminghunt5837 he only used strikes so yes I mean no striking...
*Task Master* "What an idiot"
"You don't need other people to spoon feed you anything!" A much, MUCH needed sentiment these days, sadly.
10:00 I love how Ramsey takes a simple question and turns it into a motivational speech.
I love the idea
Your "Martial arts" are my training drills!
The badass MMA fighter in the movie says before beating up the bad guy
That NEEDs to be a line in some work of fiction. It sounds awesome!
The analogy I thought you where going to use and would have been fitting is..
If you do power lifting, thid doesn't mean you would be good at Olympic lifting or strong man. Perhaps even body building. All weightlifting sports but all different technique.
Power lifting, - pure strength to get the highest weight in the 3 lifts.
Olympic lifting - requires different technique, balance, speed.
Strongman - different shaped weights, fitness.
Bodybuilding - lifting weights to shape your body with muscle.
Bro you have some great mat skills there, impressive all round performance. Cheeky little Thai throw..
Respect
I miss 1993. I was 23. I would love to be 23 with my current skill set
There’s an Uncle Rico inside all of us just wanted to get back to 1982.
Uncle Rico. Hahahahhahaa
Join the club buddy 😆
Damn, that was rough to read. But i guess is better have a good skills than just stamina without knowlage
I'd love to have a life do over, show up in 1975 with my adult views and life knowledge. Even if I couldn't ride the gold wave of 1980 or buy Microsoft.
OTOH all the other kids would think I was weird as hell with all the Simpsons and Family guy and netisms I'd be spouting. Salty? Dooh!, you're weird.
I’ve been watching your vids for awhile and this one really said what I needed to here, not so much on mma but on life. Thanks brother!
I can only take TKD i live in a small town and still have to travel to the next town over to take it. I have taken Wing Tsun and JKD in Arizona but i moved back to iowa and this is my only option atm atleast with covid. The mma/jujitsu gym closed for covid. Not that I'm expecting to go into MMA atm till i take proper classes. But TKD competitions I will do. Good video doe love your video
CZcams is your friend! There are so many resources on here (admittedly you have to filter out some of the dross) for at least giving you some basics in various styles. I'm primarily karate but since the first lockdown (in the UK - my classes have been cancelled since last March) I've also practiced aspects of boxing, Muay Thai and even Wing Chun (for s**** and giggles!). BJJ and wrestling are a tad more difficult on your own but you can at least study how they work. Obviously you're not getting feedback on whether or not you're doing something correctly but at least you're getting a head start for when we finally go back to the 'old normal'.
@@therealfodder There's nothing wrong with Wing Chun principles if you actually train to apply them. It's actually not that different from boxing.
there’s a good chance the mma gym is still open send them an email they’re probably training on the down low
@@davidthestudent8110 maybe for fun, workouts, recreation. Karate, at least legit schools, do give you a legit striking base
@@davidthestudent8110 what makes you so sure of that? You ever heard of kyokushin?
Training both at the same time is amazing - the language of body movement has translation. A step-in side kick has components that translate into Uchi Mata. Switching between BJJ and Muay Thai classes just adds so much value - I've been thinking a lot about how my nice, tall Muay Thai stance can be different from a wider boxing, or lower wrestling stance, and it opened up my eyes a lot.
Thanks for all the knowledge Ramsey, specially by the end of the video.
Awesome! Thanks for answering my question! This is exactly what I wanted to know!
It makes me a bit sad that this misconception still floats around. It makes me not want to say I train at an MMA gym. The question people inevitably ask is: so you must be pretty good at MMA right? And I have to say; no. I suck. I've only done 5-10 classes of MMA in my entire life. I mostly focus on kickboxing and submission grappling. And people just don't seem to understand that there are important distinctions between these disciplines. I would estimate that an overwhelming majority of MMA fans have never actually done a single MMA class in their lives, nor participated in any martial art; thus the misconception is really not going to change any time soon.
I like the analog Ramsey puts forward, but it is also a little misleading in some ways I think. I'm in a very similar boat as you, and I'm sure you can point out, its hard to train 'MMA,' whatever that may look like. Any beginner (with good coaching) can get under a bar pretty quickly to begin lifting, even if it won't look pretty, but the floor for getting into live MMA rounds feels a lot higher. At what point is enough enough, or too much accessory work is too much? Do you need to learn a jab and a cross? Probably. Do you need to learn the most nuanced and complicated concepts of cutting angles or how to disassemble a philly shell? Probably not. Do you need to learn an armbar and triangle? Likely. Do you need to know every transition into an omaplata that a purple belt would? Probably not. The list goes on but thats something that I think about often. And this doesn't even get into the areas where stuff actually overlaps. Learning to wall walk, do I figure this out from wrestling? Or do I learn about it from Muay Thai, or do I learn about it from BJJ? I don't want to get knocked out wall walking like a moron, so striking makes sense, but I also don't want to get submitted, and so on.
Well in a way you are righr, but there's a different way to look at it. I like to train BJJ at boxing classes for example, I sometimes just keep my distance and clinch to avoid getting punched then reset.
The "individual" disciplines can be much more than accessory work if you expand the rules just a little bit, I for instance when teaching boxing to my homies include clinch fighting. That has a carry over to MMA that far excedes the modern boxing ruleset's carry over.
So if you wanna put it in olympic weight lifting terms, I'd say boxing is my overhead press, jiujitsu is my squat, sanda is my deadlift and MMA is my clean and jerk (that is, what I'll actually do in competition day).
That said, I believe the same way those main component lifts are practiced more often than the full clean and jerk, in MMA you should do the same.
Uncle Chael says it all the time - if you change the rules, you change the sport.
Ironically MMA is the perfect example for that. There is a reason why the Gracies left UFC after they changed the rulles.
Gracies never left the UFC. just they stop being so succesfull. And not relay for the rules.
@@animadverte The rule changes with adding time limits, actually did made Royce and Rorion to leave the UFC.
Rorion Gracie and his business partners sold the UFC to SEG Sports Corporation in 1995, before Zuffa bought the company in 2001. They were planning on UFC 1 to be a single event only, but got talked into doing 3 more. The rule changes didn’t take effect until Zuffa bought the company.
@@RamseyDewey Wow, I didn't know that. Cool stuff.
I remembered when I had my first sparring in karate. Before that I did a lot of fencing training. And I thought, that the skill will transfer. Buuuut - no. I like dnd and how they approach this thing. Skill points in fencing are skill points in fencing. They don't give bonuses for unarmed fight. :D
Yeah, but karate skills do transfer to boxing (speaking from experience, I thought boxing to a karateka friend and he picked it up incredibly fast).
Also, movement is movement, so that will always cross over from any sport into any other.
I disagree bro they can transfer you just gotta understand how to cross it over
It would transfer over to point karate but maybe not full contact. The ability to move quickly back and forth is very important
Well, I speak from the point of my experience. And it was so that I was comfortable with a sword or a stick in my hands, but I totally didn't know what to do with the unarmed distance, timing and combinations
I used to fence myself and i used that step in i learned from fencing to develop my jab and its carried over well
Your words are very helpful. Thanks! :)
Man I love listening to you and how you let us see your live philosophy beside the main topic that you are focusing on the video.
My MMA gym trains in everything even though it’s a “Jiu Jitsu” based gym. Our head instructor (Phil Arnebeck) trained with Rickson Gracie for 25+ years. Rickson emphasizes that you need striking with Jiu Jitsu. Coach Arnebeck has believes that MMA should be taught for self defense and sport so we train for both.
I needed to hear that this morning. Amen🙏🏿
Thanks for watching and get out there and train." Super Easy, Barely An Inconvenience.
Hey, Ramsey, have watched Ryan George's videos on the Screen Rant channel? They're incredible!
Hi coach, great video as always.
Really well explained Ramsey 👌
All I see is now Handsome Squidward now after that picture. And it is glorious
I feel like a lot of mma gyms are a mixture of muay thai and bjj classes and really dont teach a more complete mma skill set
Same here, Ramsey, I'm currently training in my own home gym because I refuse to wait around for others to get the job done. Great advice on all accounts, thank you!
I should definitely go to bed because it's 2:00 AM; but also there's this new vid right here...
I have been trying to say this for many years, but I just didnt know how.
Best explanation I have ever heard!
I love this analogy fantastic! There's a lane thing I come from a wrestling background and I coach in my local area for wrestling and I now also train in BJJ still a complete novice... and yes my wrestling gave me an initial edge on other white belts but something I realized very fast is that all that wrestling training also came along with adherence to a set of incompatible rules so there were so many holds and locks I missed out on cause my muscle memory was focused on the rules of wrestling. I see this with kids who come in to learn to wrestle with BJJ backgrounds they do moves that can and will get them disqualified in a match or tournament scenario. If you don't train in an area that muscle memory will get you into trouble and cause issues. 100% agree on the train in it when you want to do it... if you want to wrestle you have to train in wrestling... but you can't train in wrestling when you want to do BJJ... they are not the same thing... it's like learning Spanish cause you want to speak Japanese... sure once you learn a second language learning a 3rd becomes easier but you still have to learn that 3rd one.
Great video, don't neglect the main work or the accessories 👍
This was actually really helpful to me. I'm going to rethink how I structure the classes I teach.
Thank you! People don’t seem to understand mma is and isn’t in relation to other combat sports/tmas. It is really developing into its own tma but hopefully will always remain flexible but rule changes can really change a ma pretty drastically. I think people confuse martial arts, self defense and fighting as all one thing and though they have points in common they are separate things with even sub classifications too. Anyway great Q&A.
I feel like a better sports analogy would have been Rugby to America. Football. Both feel very similar yet both require different skill sets.
I don’t. MMA and styles like taekwondo, BJJ, boxing, judo, etc are even more radically different that baseball and football.
I respect your opinion even if I disagree with it. MMA is a collection of techniques from different styles manufactured into its own thing. A MMA fighter can stand in a ring with a boxer or go up in a wrestling match quite comfortably even if they aren't the sports they trained for.
On a side note: keep up the great videos. I love listening to your takes.
@@jamends1220 "A MMA fighter can stand in a ring with a boxer" Wrong. Absolutely wrong. czcams.com/video/g9aQspP5EX4/video.html Skip to 3:37, Ramsey himself explains why.
@@Kaledrone You missed off "quite comfortably". Obviously they are different sports that you train for but my point is that skills can transfer. Doesn't mean that they transfer well but they still can. Again feeling and looking very similar yet they aren't the same thing which was my original point with Rugby and American Football. The base skill sets are different.
Agree with ramsay. The stuff you do in "individual martial arts" does often not translate to mma. Just look at kickboxing for example. They have more of a narrow stance and if you fight like that in mma you will get taken down way too easily.
But if you never done any martial arts then starting with one specific one in the beginning and then transition to mma will definetly make it easier for you.
Very interesting points in this video thank you, Ramsey. Maybe soon, unless you have a video already on the topic, could you talk about how you made your gyms and give advice to those that are interested in doing the same if there are none around them?
Three subjects every man thinks he knows:
1) Fighting & Martial Arts
2) Food & Cooking
3) Music & Composition
I can affirm this as someone who has put in a few thousand hours of martial arts-enough to love and appreciate technical details-, spent 8 years in kitchens, and played music over 22 years.
The greatest music, by and large, has typically one thing in common (and this philosophy applies to everything as the act of learning martial arts does): *Repetition* *and* *Development* otherwise known as *Developing* *Familiarity.* This encompasses:
• _Practice_ _and_ _Discipline_
• _Structure_ _and_ _Form_ (various fundamental movements transcend multiple techniques. Roux and Mirepoix are the cornerstones of recipes in western cuisine)
• _Application_ (the way a song, fight, or dish unfolds and relates... Surprises, Repetition and Development, motifs, themes etc)
• _Confidence_
• _Grit_
• _Interpersonal_ _Dynamics_
• _Existential_ _Relationships_
A shaken not stirred martial artist
I think what is important is not only the different martial arts but the "glue" between the arts that make a fighter suitable for the rulesets of mma
Might be a form of adaptation
I don't figure myself an MMA guy. I've done karate, kali/silat, boxing, and judo individually. My ground game was pretty exclusively learned in the Marines, less from MCMAP training itself and more just trial and error from grappling with the guys for fun. I don't even know if my grappling style has name.
I can scrap. I'm a fighter. But I am not an MMA fighter. I'm okay in the ring, not outstanding. And I know this. And I'm fine with this. Combat isn't a sport to me, it's about survival. And in that regard, I feel fine.
Awesome opening line, as a kid I started out with karate, and judo, but once I saw ufc 1 and then courter, rampage, Anderson I realised what was going on I went straight to mma and have not looked back, with some Thai boxing as well.
i love your videos! i have a QUESTION tho... what combat sports/martial arts do you think translate the most to mma? like... you have to change the least to go from one to the other? from what can be learnt arround the place i live... i would bet chaiudokwan would be the one that needs the least work... some of the tournaments are even in cages, and they allow kick boxing strikes plus wrestling... you cant do submissions, but you can do almost any throw(including some that are forbiden in bjj like slams, or some that are forbiden in judo like leg scissors) and pinning your oponent for 5 seconds gives 2 points...
I think the "make it happen" is a very important part of studying martial arts.
If a gym sounds too professional, you may call it a study group. That's what a friend of mine did in order to start training HEMA. Even after it was created, if you want to learn something, you must yourself bring that up for the group.
Hey,sir, you should check out random ``hajime no ippo`` fights which is the best none fantasy fighting anime
I see you are a man of culture as well
@@maivrei5077 damn stright
Now we talking
I've read the comic book for over 15 years, I've watched the cartoon, I can say this absolutely:
The cartoon stinks. The animation is SO slow-paced that it ruins everything that made the comic great. There's a reason there was a 20 year gap between seasons, and the comic had to hit over 1000 chapters before the studios decided to give it another shot.
If anyone gets advised about Hajime No Ippo, read the comic.
Ramsey Dewey doesn't seem like the type of guy to watch that stuff in his free time...
As always appreciate your vids that help me understand all the stuff I didn't used to understand about the sport of mma. Not the mexican one. The American one.
the thing about MMA is that it's just taking the cliffnotes version of all of those arts. becoming a BJJ master, then a boxing master, then a wrestling master, and then a mui thai master is not required and is counterproductive to being an MMA fighter because by the time you finish training all these styles you'll likely be to old to fight. choose which part of mma you want to specialize in. IE striking or grappling. learn all you can about it AS IT RELATES TO MMA, then go ahead an take pure MMA classes. these will give you a foundation to build that specialization onto
That’s like saying Muay Thai is just a Cliff’s Notes version of boxing + taekwondo + Wingchun + karate + judo sweeps & trips + Greco Roman wrestling minus the takedowns.
No one trains Muay Thai like that. It would be incredibly inefficient. But that’s exactly how people who suck at MMA keep trying to train for the sport of MMA.
Dewey could you do a breakdown of Sumo. Philosophy, the ceremony, the combat style, attitudes if the fighters. What do you think if their 15 day tournament system? View portions the January tournament and react etc.
The skills needed against the fence is a martial skill on its own.
Watch your videos mainly because I want to lead my son in best possible way. Set goal plans for him 'help'... He s just turned 17 unlike me at his age he s still has his innocence still a kid a good kid he s still very dependent on his mum.
Martial arts training for my son I heavily encourage it for the sole purpose of 'Personal Mastery of Self'.
I get perspective on what I'm trying to do and I thank you dearly for that 🙏💛
Hey coach!
Do you believe (or use) conditioning exercises are really beneficial in technique martial arts classes?
I always find that I could be a lot fresher in technique drills if I hadn't done conditioning first, I find that practicing technique is good anyway to get a good workout (the body will adapt to the demands you put on it as you say), and also I train at home regardless.
So, should initial exercises be eradicated or substituted for a low effort warm up, or are they okay in your opinion?
Thanks!!
Howdy Coach,
Well, I'm finally taking your advice and getting up off the couch to begin the long road to fitness. I've decided to challenge myself and go on Monk Mode for 1 year. For the last month I've been working out every morning - push ups, skip rope, crunches, squats and shadow boxing. I'm eating less, not smoking weed, not drinking coffee and I'm even avoiding fapping.
I don't own a scale so I'm not sure if I lost any weight and I haven't seen any visible results when I look in the mirror. Being a realist, I figure it'll take several more months before I do see any significant changes. On a brighter note, my energy levels seem to be going up and my overall mood is more positive.
Skip rope isn't too difficult for me, but I am having a bit of trouble with shadow boxing. Mainly, I don't think I'm doing hooks and uppercuts correctly. Have you done any videos yet specifically on shadow boxing? If so, I'd love to see them - especially with step by step instructions on hooks and uppercuts. Also, could you show some basic combinations I could try out.
Any help would be appreciated.
I'm a big fan of your channel and I hope you keep making CZcams videos forever.
Keep up the awesome work.
S
P.S.
I still say How To Win Friends and Influence People is the worst book I ever read - I rank it even lower than Mein Kampf, anything written by Ian Fleming and the instruction manual that came with my toaster oven.
It's better to be a really good at something and then round out you're skills than train everything simultaneously
Yeah some of us are just inclined to different aspects of MMA. For eg wrestling and striking come naturally to me. Grappling I suck at. A lot.
@@Sid-uc5ms what's the difference between wrestling and grappling?
@@justagerman140 If I have understood correctly - wrestling is the art of throwing your opponent down to the ground by using any of the "throwing" techniques, and of avoiding being thrown by him.
Grappling is the art of using techniques of joint locks, chokes or strangulations for getting your opponent to submission after both you and he are already on the ground ( after having done a throwing technique ) and to prevent him from choking or locking you up into a submission.
@@Sid-uc5ms yea everyone's different as a Kid I wanted to be a power ranger lol
@@justagerman140 wrestling is mostly takedown and never lie on you're back. Grappling is all of holding submissions and transitions. Wrestling is a subset of grappling.
Lol I asked my friend recently what his recommendation for getting into MMA was and that was training a separate martial art first before getting into MMA. I guess that was bad advice lol. That being said it's like twice the distance to the nearest MMA club than the nearest boxing club so I'll go with that anyways. I just really want a sport I like and enjoy to couple with training to give it some larger goal because I find pure physical training with no competitive goal to be boring af. I used to train pure physical training and actually got good, consistent results but the actions themselves without some kind of larger competitive drive just made me quit out of boredom.
There is a whole lot of BJJ solo drills here on CZcams, I'm doing some until I can join a gym sometime next year.
I did TWD, for a while, but dropped to focus more on Baseball in high school and I'd love to take it up again and probably learn another style
This approach to defining mma is wonderfully philosophically practical. It's true that a child is not just their parents combined, and mma isn't just the various combat sports combined.
I am proudly a kung fu guy, but everytine I get asked what style, I just say it's generic kung fu- my actual styles of training include taiji and hung gar, but when I am sparring with in an mma format ie gloves, mouthguard, mats, restricted techniques, I'm not using specific styles, I'm using whatever feels natural and appropriate against my opponent. Even if I'm doing something that looks like a guillotine, it's from my kung fu training, so it feels different to my better opponents who do lots of mma. I've had people say that they can't sense my techniques at all, which is fair as the whole point of being "formless" was what Bruce Lee advocated, and guess what Jeet kune do was trying to accomplish?
Answer: the forerunner of mma! 😁
I like your pfp
@@cognito8325 i like yours 😁
Thanks for great video again! .
Is your gym back open?
Do you train wearing face masks?
Thankyou for some good life advice which we can all use in many areas (nearer to end of video) . Some of the ideas you mention reminds me of a few ideas i read in stoicism, especially epictetus.
If you dont mind me asking, how old are you? How has your training changed as you get older? Im 47.
Stay safe.
Peace be with you and your family. 😁
It sounds like you're emphasizing seeing how the individual element are not the same as how they seamlessly fit into a complete picture in mma.
Hey ramsey thoughts on music in the gym is it good bad or ugly?
11:36. Proof that God doesn't care about low carb 🤣
Like i said, to me students. If you have a rally, driver , a formula 1 driver, a nascardriver, ....etc. yes, there is a crossover. All drivers driver their vehicles. But in diffrent circumstances. It makes no sense to compare. I often get asked, whats the best martial art. For me it depends on ...(whats my goal)
yea you totally hit it on the head, MMA has really become standardized compared to the early days
Thank you for this video! It's really making me critically look at the way I've decided to train and now I'm curious if you believe that it has any merit towards MMA. I currently train Judo and Muay thai through clubs at the university I attend, rather than taking classes at an MMA gym. So while it sounds more counterproductive in comparison to being part of an MMA gym, I'm unsure of how much more counterproductive it is and if it's worth continuing this as opposed to signing up to my nearest MMA gym to pursue MMA.
Short Answer: Probably. Long answer: It depends, but you'll want to switch to an MMA gym eventually.
1. How good are your schools programs vs. the quality of training at your local mma gym? Don't sacrifice first class combat sport training for 3rd rate mma training.
2. Are you planning on moving when you graduate/do you want to be a professional? It takes time to build a relationship with instructors/coaches. If there is not a first class MMA gym, and you want to be a pro, you will have to move eventually. Might as well wait until after you graduate and just stay where you've already built good relationships for now.
3. How good are you? If you're still learning the basics of grappling and striking, you wouldn't be learning anything too different at an mma gym. Probably want to train where the highest quality instruction is or where it is cheapest (assuming instruction is good both places).
@@SHADOW1414 This is a really thoughtful response, thank you. I will definitely have to take all of that into consideration as well, I have a background in boxing (about 4 years, never competed though due to various reasons), so there's a fair lot of basics to still learn in both striking and grappling that just wasn't covered by boxing. I really appreciate this response man
Don't focus on what you can't do but what you can do you say. I can't train BJJ or other contact sports because of Covid-19. What's best bang for my buck so to speak in the meantime to do by myself? Should I focus on strength or some katas/tai chi forms etc.
Question slightly related, what do you think of MMA gyms that do training separately? Like ive been to a lot of different gyms recently and they normally split up the training/sparring they do like boxing sparring on mondays, wall work Wednesdays, ground and pound Thursday's, etc. Like that with no or maybe one full day and thats there official MMA practice.
We need to invent a mixed rules sport or mixed game sport.
“He hits the ball over the 50 feet yard line, oh oh he missed the three points, the running back shoots, he makes it gooooooool!!!!”
Such a thing exists. A combination of basketball and soccer: Kronum.
Volleyball is half tennis, half basketball.
I think the memory of the early cage matches where there were vastly different styles is stuck in people's heads.
I had hoped that you would explain why they do not cross over that well.
The one thing I've noticed is that learning to punch a bag or throw a static opponent means sh... without sparring, but many schools avoid sparring like the plague... I could imagine that you need some time to effectively combine the individual arts and adapt to competition rules.
Alright Ramdog, I can read between the lines. Time to start a speak-easy dojo.
funny enough there is a method where you train things around the Squat I believe but only do true Squats in competition.
right now its bjj and boxing ... we will see how far it gets me
Hey coach. I have a question..
I has been training boxing for years, what are the best kicks a boxer can adopt in a mma sparring match.
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My gym is an mma gym that barely does mma classes, but they are barely filled.
Grappling is slowly getting more trainees, but kickboxing is by far the most popular. You can do kickboxing every day and it's always a full class.
But I guess kickboxing is our (Dutch) national sport after soccer/football.
0:00 - It’s coz I don’t train!! Beat you to the punch :p
Your 100% right. The distance, posture and the set ups in wrestling are all different in mma. Not everything translates
What's your thoughts on people like Stephen Thompson who had a great kickboxing career then worked getting more rounded out (and is in process of keeping rounding out his game)?
So if I can travel anywhere where should I go?
Multiple places? I'm 24 and have a A + B base of karate/wrestling but there just are no real mma gyms near me. Will anyone do? Trevor Wittman is close in Colorado and So is Michael chiesa in Spokane but if I should go anywhere, where should I go? I'm not even saying I want to fight unless I know I can but the thing I understand is I will not get wasted time back so how do I make the most of 10 years?
Another problem with this is that most mma gyms where i live dont offer that many mma classes per week.
I literally cannot only train mma because of this, and therefore iam forced to take other classes.
Right now i train at a gym that has the usual muay thai +bjj, which i guess is a good foundation for mma. The norm seems to be muay thai + bjj for most gyms in sweden, which is kind of amnoying if you want to do mma.
Im gonna move and found a gym that has a few mma classes per week among with bjj, wrestling and muay thai.
I think the best way to go about this is to see the individual classes as support for your mma, aslong as the majority of your time goes into the mma classes.
I think a better example you can give: imagine if you want to be an elite special force fighter, you have to join the military and train as one. You won't get there by train target shooting, running, etc individually.
Ramsey what do you think about Paul Vunak and Lee Morrison?
This fuy is good
Fine what’s the best self defense And mma combination?
I know they’re two separate things, but some “self defense” courses fail miserably at being stressed tested.
Georges St Pierre says he finds the top guys in each martial art and trains with them so he gets the best jiu jitsu, boxing, wrestling, muay thai, etc. When he was dominating MMA 10yrs ago they did an all access on him. He said he likes to train each discipline separate.
Hockey is also known as team death match boxing on ice. Imagine how hard it would be to throw a punch without your feet. There is even a kengan ashura character with that premise.
Hey coach quick question. I have spoke to a few MMA coaches that seem to believe that the best MMA fighters are usually ones who are good at one discipline. They usually say something to the effect of if I had a kid doing boxing from age 9 or 10 and then at age 17 or 18 He transitioned into mixed martial arts at my gym that's the kid that will probably be a champion one day because he's mastered one discipline and he has a fallback discipline. I watched your video and I agree with what you said but what do you think about coaches who have that mentality. That if a person walks into their gym having one good discipline under their belt whether it be boxing wrestling or jujitsu they're more likely to be successful in MMA All things considered equal. Thanks for all the great stuff you do brother.
It’s always easier to train a competent athlete to fight than a non-athlete, wether their sport is tennis, rugby, or wrestling- because they already know how to move, and they’re already disciplined enough to train.
That being said, there are very few boxers who have successfully transitioned to MMA, and there is a huge number of wrestlers that have successfully made that transition.
From personal experience, I have found it difficult to coach people for the sport of MMA who were already steeped in a striking tradition. There’s a lot of re-learning that has to take place, and most of the good boxers and kickboxers I’ve trained had a really hard time with adapting to the sport of MMA.
@@RamseyDewey thank you coach, that's an interesting answer but not surprising. My father who's trained in amateur boxing and did a lot of wrestling once told me that it's easier for me to teach a wrestler how to box than a boxer how to wrestle. As always sir keep up the good work really love your stuff.
If you want to do mixed martial arts, by definition you gotta train in multiple martial arts and mix them together. This won't help you with Mexican Martial Arts though.
Heres what's missing in this assessment. The instincts that come from having a foundation.
I was never a wrestler and never will be, most confident in my striking which isnt so great.
I know my weakness and its terrifying what a blue belt or high school wrestler could do to me.
Ive been learning to respect that rather than be sour over it
I feel like I want to go back to a traditional martial art and take something like MMA as the side activity.
That may sound weird, but I don't want to be a fighter. I like the artistic side of styles like Taekwondo and Karate, so I'm the type of person who'd focus on kata or poomsae. The MMA would be for the different sort of exercise with something more functional.
Mr Jocko Willink said if you can't find a place to accommodate your needs, you must create one. It's harder than that (i know i know), but there are places that teach more than one thing. Im just saying: You gotta Make it work. Good Luck.
Ramsay Dewey, what do you think about Kobudo? Many people think it’s impractical and just playing around with unorthodox weapons. What do you think is it’s place in the modern world and how could it be applied?
Kobudo is fun. If you miss the fun, you miss everything. You will probably never get into a sai vs tonfa fight or a nunchaku vs boat oar fight, or a jo staff vs bo staff fight. And if you have such a weapon in hand, it doesn’t require kata training to know how to hit somebody with a stick.
Beo that intro lol😊
karate teakwondo judo kungfu and crazy to boot
kinda mixed
lets say i do some streetfighting and i use them all. does that make me a mixed matial artists?
if i use wresteling in judo does that make a mixed matial artist?
What if I do Muay Thai but In a MMA friendly style for when I later join a MMA gym?
At my MMA gym you have to get really good at striking and BJJ befire your allowed to take the MMA class. So I am in the process of becoming an MMA fighter but as of now I call myself a mixed martial artist. Which I think is right ig?
I had spar sessions against national champions of boxing, folk wrestling and karate, I know how to really merge those styles but still don't consider myself to be a mixed martial artist as I've never really practiced mma, and modern mma is basically a style on it's own which only changes if the practitioner has a background martial art
MMA is greater than the some of its parts, that’s the reason you see high profile strikers get knocked out cold by people that on paper have much lesser skill has an example.
The kickboxers who go into MMA are usually over the hill by the time they debut, and they have to cut their kickboxing training (thereby skill) by over 80% to make up the grappling practice. Andy Souwer & Gokhan Saki are good examples, as is strawweight MMA/MT champ Dejdamrong.
They also get GSP'd a lot (so scared of getting taken down they don't see the jab), which is like cheap combo spamming in a video game because your opponent's better at actually playing the game. It's technically Legal... but the cheapest way to say you're better at the game (kickboxing). The sports aren't SO different that that isn't cheap.
Or, in the case of Derek Brunson vs. Yoel Romero, that you're better at wrestling because you took down an Olympian by "mixing it up" better.
You know what...you know without the stubble you look like agent 47 Mr.Dewey