Nerfs Incoming to Shadow of the Erdtree
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- Im not sure if many people remember that when Elden Ring initially released... It got a massive wave of people saying it was too hard then. The result? Radahn and Malenia got nerfed. Forever keeping people from being able to say they beat here on the same field as everyone else. My guess is that we are going to see the same thing happened to enemies and bosses in this DLC as well if the cry train keeps chugging along.
What are your thoughts?
#eldenring #fromsoftware #shadowoftheerdtree - Hry
I really hope they don’t nerf it. I don’t want people screaming I beat this boss post nerf
They nerfed starscourge radahn after launch
@@caleebsterthe3rd719 No they didn't, they fixed his broken hit boxes.
@@MrJaddikthey did nerf his hp (and damage iirc) there is patch note on it
@@firasatha2916 The 1.03 patch notes say his damage was unintentionally reduced, Which seems to be restored, don't know about HP though.
wasnt the dlc last boss nerfed already?
Back in my day, games weren’t connected to the internet 👴🏻
Already beat it pre Nerf REALLY doesn't need a Nerf. Just indications on how much scudatree buffs is recommended for each boss.
You don't really believe they will nerf it, do you? Souls games are made for their difficulty. I mean, its like buying a cheeseburger and getting mad there is cheese on it.
because they nerfed radahn before, still I hope they wont.
@@Nobody-eu6tbTbh, radahn on launch was kinda broken
#CasualsNeedToGetGood
to think there are people who consider the very first Super Mario Bros from NES a hard game is just plain sad
There is only 2 instances maybe 3 that need some fine tuning.
1. gaius's shitty charging hitbox
2. the stairs in the final area past the lion soldier man with the tornado spell casting dudes
3(unlikely). the 2nd phase of the final boss is a bit much and the aoe needs to be tuned down
I heard messmier's snakes also have wierd hit boxes when attacking. Think I saw it on Charlies video the other day.
The only thing that should be nerfed new weapons and ashes parameters, in pvp some of them is just absurdly outperform existing ones
I haven't dived into PvP yet so I cant weigh in but I could see there being imbalances for sure. Some of them feel really good. Mind you I saw that from trying them unleveled on regular enemies but I digress.
I don't care about difficulty or nerfing.
Since DLC launch the framerate falls more frequently than before
#GetGood
I played on a fresh run, was level 160-170 most of the dlc is on par with the base game but the game gets 3-4x more difficult just on the final boss difficulty scaling goes out the window on the final boss specifically the second phase with the moves where he teleports multiple times at you
interesting. I cant weigh in on that yet as im only just past the hippo. Rellana was a wild ride tho on NG+. a WILD ONE haha
@@Insight_Gaming really? Rellana for me was one of the more tame bosses but then again I am on standard game and I use spirit ashes, specifically kristoff but to counteract spirit ashes I don't use any items other than flasks and wondrous physik, my build is also a samurai Dex build with the keen nagakiba and unsheathe so I poise break the normal sized bosses 2-3 times which also helps
@@user-op6kt8pg9y she’s far from tame 1v1 lol and she closes the distance really fast for sure. I wanna use ashes tho but I love the challenge of no summons haha
although i only beat two of the main bosses so far in the DLC , they dont really feel unfairly strong to me(and im ''only'' lvl135). maybe they are not the targeted bosses to begin with, but im afraid many are going in and ignoring the scadutree blessing and still crying about why it is so hard .
Wait until you get to the final boss 😂
@@user-op6kt8pg9y we'll see if I get there in time before a possible nerf 😂
@@Zinner95 I spent 20 hours on it, was going to wait for a nerf but last night I played for another 10 hours straight and managed it somehow 😭
@@user-op6kt8pg9y nice 👌🏻 persistence is key 👍🏻😂
yeah i think so too. Like i mentioned, people b-lining to weapons and armor but they really need those blessings to level the difficulty that fromstoft instilled.
Amazing unexpected video
Thank you kindly friend! Im happy to be back on the games and gains track haha
Please don’t nerf. I’m flying through the dlc 😢
NG+ definetly affects, mesmer's grab for example doesnt one shot you if you had like 2k hp in normal, but ng+1 it one shots you.
Players who did the dlc on new game plus are not complaining about the nerfs😭💯
@@letsgobrandon1906 afc they dont complain because why would they? im just pointing out that it does affect.
oh sheesh. That sounds like pure pain. Is it easily dodged?
welp that might be why I still get bodied hahahaha
@@Insight_Gaming yeah afc but it is a delayed attack and a gap closer so might be annoying at the start but basically a good opening when you play through the boss a good amount of time
I like the dlc and its a good dlc because its more of the same game with extra stuff, but i still prefer blood and wine myself
I’ve already put my ps5 in “no automatic updates”
That legit so smart. Holy.
In short; "Git gud".
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Wow this was one massive W take
Hey I appreciate it and finding like-minded people!
If they expected anything else from From Software , they are delusional, all DLCs from them are hard and challenging. They should not nerf it.
Like honestly, name me one dlc that's easier than base game minus maybe ashes of ariendel
Out of the 18K negative reviews, 11K are from Chinese players, most of which are complaining about EAC.
Info from Steam Scout.
The biggest issues with the DLC are performance issues and some OP ashes of war, the difficulty complaints just get the most clicks, just like the controversy about Elden Ring needing an easy mode early into the lifecycle of the game. This too will pass.
Swift Slash needs a nerf for PvP though, that ash of war is practically undodgeable even to the best PvP players because it can basically pop instantly and has large AoE that always stagger, hit hard and deal status buildup.
I dont think I've gotten that ash yet so I wanna check it out. Im sure we will see ash and weapon balancing soon. They are pretty on top of stuff like that
Brother im gonna be honest its cool that you're in the gym filming videos and showcasing both your passions at the same time but the noises in the background often made it difficult to hear exactly what you're talking about.
I know it's a public gym and all - not going to invoke the spirit of the great Swole. It happens, but are you sure this is the right format for informative or potentially thought provoking gaming videos?
Still in the learning period of this. I like it because since I have SUCH little time to actually do what I love and also get a video done, Ive found that it does help me to get my lift in and then also get gaing news out. Idk, I like it in concept and I also like it in practice but I see what your saying. I try to shoot when no one is in there. Idk.... gonna keep experimenting. Its all a constant learning process and evolution. I appreciate your feedback tho and for being respectful. I had someone just straight up be a dick about it. totally uncool.
Yeah ng+ is a factor because im in ng+5 and the dancing lion literally two shot me with normal hit and one shot me with his grab even with my lvl 60 vigor and i love it
Almost like they shouldve properly play tested the game so this conversations would nevwr happen 🤷♂️
the elden ring dlc was very disappointing. and im saying this as somebody with 1.3 thousand hours in the game and another thousand in Dark Souls 3. I do not have a skill issue and have already gotten good, rest assured. The difficulty factor of the bosses seems to be mostly gimmick attacks like waterfoul dance. if you get bad or average rng youre going to die, but if you get good rng you can kill the boss easily. I was struggling with messmer for a while until i randomly beat him while only using 2 heals. im talking from not even consistently getting to the 2nd phase to getting his healthbar to 0. i found the golden hippo and divine beasts to be easily the best bosses because they require no such rng. also, the 8 new weapon types are so disappointing. Im mainly a pvp guy, and 3 of the 8 weapon types are needlessly overpowered. a newbie to pvp can almost kill me while using backhand blade, thrusting shields, beast claws, and if they manage to get me with the ash of war from a purfume its game over. on top of that the dlc adds performance issues throughout the entire game, not just the dlc. I am so profoundly disappointed that I waited 2 years and spent 50$ CAD to have this weaker than average experience, especially when compared to the dlcs from DS1 and DS3. of course my opinions can change, but I predict that if you play the other fromsoftware DLCs you will find that this one is a weak link.
Playing 1.3k hours doesn't immediately mean you have no skill issues. I've seen people with 10k hours in games and still stuck in the lowest leagues.
What you have in common with them oddly enough is blaming RNG, it really makes you think.
I'll be real, there isn't much gimmick to the dlc, it's just a ramp up of skill requirement. Other than a bit of bayle and gaius, there isn't really rng moves. Messmer is a pretty easy boss with telegraphed moves so obviously everyone's different but either your build was bad or you just aren't used to hoe fast elden ring is compared to older games. And come on you can't be serious about previous games having better dlc, ariandel was a pathetic excuse for a full priced dlc, and u can't complain about rng when literally Halflight Spear entire design was rng pvp. Like nothing fromsoft has done has been that rng. I can't speak on the pvp scene rn cuz I don't play for that but I've seen the horrors lol. Keep and open mind and learn bosses rather than roll r1 spam like how it was in old games. That's the beauty in these games
I also have mixed feelings about the DLC. I don't have 1500 hours in ER, but played through the main game often enough and have beaten some ACTUAL hard games (NES classics, ALTF4 etc.), that I can safely say it's not a skill issue. Biggest problem I have with the DLC is the camera. Yes, it's the same system as in the main game. But in the DLC, the ratio of too big and too fast bosses, combined with often too small arenas and a lock-on system that was never great to begin with, is just too high. It clearly shows its limitations here. Most of the time, all I see are walls or the boss' ass in my face.
Also, the exploration feels kinda lackluster. There are too many places where I felt there should be something, but then there's nothing or just a bunch of arrows, smithing stones etc. ... not very rewarding for an end game area imho.
But I'm surprised I don't have performance issues. I never had any microstuttering or severe framedrops. I only have a 2070 Super and a 5800X3D + 32GB RAM, but I don't play with raytracing. Maybe that's the reason. Or maybe the 3D-cache of the 5800X3D is enough to bruteforce through some caching issues, I don't know... I also play offline, so I don't have those stupid messages on the floor. I don't like to have my immersion broken by clowns or secrets spoilered.
Conclusion: Instead of tweaking a few numbers on the bosses, they should finally improve their camera/lock on system. But I highly doubt that will happen.
Messmer was like one of the best fights in the series, what? I didn't see any moves that were unfair.
I just feel like Elden Ring has way weaker boss design than DS3 . The main problem I have with DLC bosses in comparison to base game, is that they have way more hp. So you either have a build with status effects or you have to deal with the need to hit them 50+ times, while getting two or one shot urself. This is extra bad since almost every boss in the base game is way weaker, except malenia (who's only a challenge because of waterfoul dance) and radahn pre nerf. Fromsoftware might even expect way different character lvls for the dlc. I started the dlc at lvl 80 (since I wanted to play pvp invasions, with the new weapons) but the dlc is probably intended for 120+ if not more.
Elden Ring isn't hard, there are just too many factors playing into it, which make bosses either easy or tedious. DS3,DS2,DS1 and Bloodborne factors were way more limiting and I think the DLC's were better for those games atleast in the department of challenge.