That is a wonderful series. I was a little kid in 1977 but I remember the feel of the year and that series brings back the feel of that time better than any modern thing that I've ever seen.
@@Sweetish_Jeff_ Yeah, it was a marine who won the 66' world series.....Hank Bauer ! But the guy above is crazy to say Martin should be in as a player is a bit much...... I guess you would have to compare him with Pee Wee Reese and Phil Rizzuto.
Billy had lots of issues, but the man was a brilliant manager. One of the smartest people to ever manage the game of baseball. It makes me sad how he died. I still remember hearing the news and my grandfather heard it at the same time while visiting during Christmas. He loved Billy. We'll never know, but we can only guess how better Billy might have been as a manager or a person if he stopped drinking. I truly believe that had he gotten help he would have been a happier person and an even better manager.
No one remembers George Weiss' name worth a drop of nasty sweat. But millions of fans will always remember the name of Billy ''Ball'' Martin forever. Fans in NY, Twin Cities, Texas, Oakland, & Detroit will always remember Billy's winning ways. I'm not much of a C&W fan, but I love that song, ''The Turnaround Gang''. I always respected Billy for his ''hustle'' and clutch WS plays. I remember that many kids on the NYC playgrounds wanted to be Billy Martin. I faithfully watched the 1977 NYY and the ensuing WS. I wasn't surprised that the Yanks beat the Dodgers. It was nothing new. In 1980, I was in San Jose ,Calif. I enjoyed watching ''Billy Ball '' from Oakland .
Martin was a baseball managerial genius but he had his demons. I knew who he was when I was 11. After watching this documentary it certainly makes you think.
Billy's a cautionary tale, for sure. But when he was good, he was great. Everywhere he went, he won. I would say that whichever team he was getting ready to manage was instantly better the moment he walked into the clubhouse.
To hell with 'Moneyball.' A 'Billy Ball' mini-series would be a worthwhile experience for baseball fans. It's too bad Billy never wrote a baseball strategy book like McCarver did. Billy's would have been awesome. Best baseball mind ever.
I always criticized pro baseball as being ''boreball'. One night in 1977 , I put the TV on & saw the NYYs on the attack. ''THIS AIN'T BOREBALL''!!!! I faithfully watched the explosive NYYs every night for the rest of the season.
Billy was my manager for one MLB Spring exhibition game in Phoenix, 1982. He and Art Fowler said nothing to me or anybody. Both nodded off, hung over after a night at the Pink Pony. True story.
He should be in the HOF. More Yankee bias. Joe D, Yogi, Whitey, Scooter ALL were not elected on the first ballot!! How do you retire Jackie’s number and not the Babes?!! A plethora of Yankee bias!!!!
You sound stupid. A lot of great players were not elected on the first ballot: Speaker, Hornsby, Foxx, Greenberg, Killebrew, Grover Cleveland, Mel Ott, Eddie Collins, Eddie Mathews, Gaylord Perry, Rollie Fingers.........Obviously, Jackie Robinson's number was retired not because he was a better baseball player than Ruth......Robinson was obviously a better football player than a baseball player.
Took decades to even ponder this. But had Martin lived to manage the Yankees in the early 90s they never would’ve had their run from 1994-04. Joe Torre would’ve most likely stayed in the NL, the core four wouldn’t have been drafted, ect, ect.
That’s not really clear. Steinbrenner still would have been suspended so they still would have drafted and kept the young stars (I don’t like the term “core four” as it leaves out Bernie who was much more integral to their dynasty than Posada). The difference is that it is probably Billy that follows Bucky Dent in 1990-91 instead of Stump Merrill. Knowing Billy there’s a good chance he is out after ‘91, win or lose, and so Buck Showalter probably still takes over in ‘92. The real question becomes whether George goes back to Billy a 7th time after Buck runs his course, or goes for a total outsider like he did with Torre.
He was alright when he was sober but when he drank, look out. Alcohol brought out the demons. And his mother didn’t help. She seems like very mean woman. No wonder his father left.
I'm a brother from Boston. I've been way lot of Jackson documentaries lately. Jackson was obviously narcissistic. Both Martin and Jackson were a bit insecure because of the rejection early in life.
The hunting story is not true. Many people have told variations of it, almost always in public at speaking events. Danny White of the Dallas Cowboys tells the same story about a teammate of his. .... Total fabrication, a spin on a joke told by a comedian.
I love that John Turturo narrated this documentary. He was phenomenal as Billy Martin in the Bronx is Burning
His portrayal made me look deep into his career and those 1970s Yankee teams.
I agree regarding John! As far as playing Billy, he got it down to a science!
That is a wonderful series. I was a little kid in 1977 but I remember the feel of the year and that series brings back the feel of that time better than any modern thing that I've ever seen.
Turturo’s brother is a Yankee superfan. MLBN once did a documentary following him through the entire 2009 season
To much alcohole
Billy Martin was a baseball genius!
Billy was the best on field game manager I have ever seen
I love Billy Martin.
One of my favorite mlb network presents
Same.
It’s a great one.
he was a fighter
should be in hof as a player & manager despite the drama.
definitely a genius of the game.
It's a crime that he's not in the HOF.
@@Sweetish_Jeff_Bruh he only won ONE World Series
@@jacobstopper3804 So did Earl Weaver and Bobby Cox.
@@Sweetish_Jeff_
Yeah, it was a marine who won the 66' world series.....Hank Bauer !
But the guy above is crazy to say Martin should be in as a player is a bit much...... I guess you would have to compare him with Pee Wee Reese and Phil Rizzuto.
From an English relatively new Baseball/Yankee fan, I absolutely love this
Billy had lots of issues, but the man was a brilliant manager. One of the smartest people to ever manage the game of baseball. It makes me sad how he died. I still remember hearing the news and my grandfather heard it at the same time while visiting during Christmas. He loved Billy.
We'll never know, but we can only guess how better Billy might have been as a manager or a person if he stopped drinking. I truly believe that had he gotten help he would have been a happier person and an even better manager.
Well said
No one remembers George Weiss' name worth a drop of nasty sweat. But millions of fans will always remember the name of Billy ''Ball'' Martin forever. Fans in NY, Twin Cities, Texas, Oakland, & Detroit will always remember Billy's winning ways. I'm not much of a C&W fan, but I love that song, ''The Turnaround Gang''. I always respected Billy for his ''hustle'' and clutch WS plays. I remember that many kids on the NYC playgrounds wanted to be Billy Martin. I faithfully watched the 1977 NYY and the ensuing WS. I wasn't surprised that the Yanks beat the Dodgers. It was nothing new. In 1980, I was in San Jose ,Calif. I enjoyed watching ''Billy Ball '' from Oakland .
Miss him…,My Fathers drinking buddy in Detroit
Billy Martin's a legend. Il say that as a Braves fan
Martin was a baseball managerial genius but he had his demons. I knew who he was when I was 11. After watching this documentary it certainly makes you think.
Billy's a cautionary tale, for sure. But when he was good, he was great. Everywhere he went, he won. I would say that whichever team he was getting ready to manage was instantly better the moment he walked into the clubhouse.
To hell with 'Moneyball.' A 'Billy Ball' mini-series would be a worthwhile experience for baseball fans. It's too bad Billy never wrote a baseball strategy book like McCarver did. Billy's would have been awesome. Best baseball mind ever.
Outstanding piece.
I always criticized pro baseball as being ''boreball'. One night in 1977 , I put the TV on & saw the NYYs on the attack. ''THIS AIN'T BOREBALL''!!!! I faithfully watched the explosive NYYs every night for the rest of the season.
no one cares ....wagon hopper
I agree withejslemp. John Turturro was terrific as Billy Martin in The Bronx. Is Burning which I loved
Steinbrenner mustve been the most Forgiving person in History 2 Rehire somebody 4 times, a Lovable Hot Head like Martin mind u.
He was like that. Had me thinking he would give Trevor Bauer a shot.
Baseball could use a Billy Martin, it’s run like a corporation today.
Billy was my manager for one MLB Spring exhibition game in Phoenix, 1982. He and Art Fowler said nothing to me or anybody. Both nodded off, hung over after a night at the Pink Pony. True story.
I saw Billy sitting at the bar at the Pink Pony. I didn't say a word. I was just glad I saw him in person.
40:07 imagine if Billy Martin did that to every reporter
Casey. Said he can manage everybody but can't manage himself
WHERE'S JOE TORRE WHEN U NEED HIM
His wife seems like a very nice lady but it must’ve been hard for her.
An acolyte of Frank Sinatra's philosophy.
That's the way most people ultimately live.
He should be in the HOF. More Yankee bias. Joe D, Yogi, Whitey, Scooter ALL were not elected on the first ballot!! How do you retire Jackie’s number and not the Babes?!! A plethora of Yankee bias!!!!
You sound stupid. A lot of great players were not elected on the first ballot: Speaker, Hornsby, Foxx, Greenberg, Killebrew, Grover Cleveland, Mel Ott, Eddie Collins, Eddie Mathews, Gaylord Perry, Rollie Fingers.........Obviously, Jackie Robinson's number was retired not because he was a better baseball player than Ruth......Robinson was obviously a better football player than a baseball player.
A Deeply troubled human being But a Baseball management genius .A tragic tale though .
Took decades to even ponder this. But had Martin lived to manage the Yankees in the early 90s they never would’ve had their run from 1994-04. Joe Torre would’ve most likely stayed in the NL, the core four wouldn’t have been drafted, ect, ect.
Agree 100 percent
That’s not really clear. Steinbrenner still would have been suspended so they still would have drafted and kept the young stars (I don’t like the term “core four” as it leaves out Bernie who was much more integral to their dynasty than Posada). The difference is that it is probably Billy that follows Bucky Dent in 1990-91 instead of Stump Merrill. Knowing Billy there’s a good chance he is out after ‘91, win or lose, and so Buck Showalter probably still takes over in ‘92. The real question becomes whether George goes back to Billy a 7th time after Buck runs his course, or goes for a total outsider like he did with Torre.
Ray Hagar hahahaha
Reggie Jackson’s biggest hater !
He was alright when he was sober but when he drank, look out. Alcohol brought out the demons. And his mother didn’t help. She seems like very mean woman. No wonder his father left.
Billy Martin and George steinbrenner were both crazy....
What a weasel Reggie Jackson was / is
I'm a brother from Boston. I've been way lot of Jackson documentaries lately. Jackson was obviously narcissistic. Both Martin and Jackson were a bit insecure because of the rejection early in life.
I cannot stand Reggie Jackson.
Reggie was the man
The hunting story is not true. Many people have told variations of it, almost always in public at speaking events. Danny White of the Dallas Cowboys tells the same story about a teammate of his. .... Total fabrication, a spin on a joke told by a comedian.
Billy Martin was racist... there were a lot of things behind his hate of Reggie...but that was the root of it.
Rod Carew, Willie Randolph and Rickey Henderson didn't think so. Billy didn't like Reggie Jackson. A lot of people didn't like Reggie Jackson.