How Much Money I Make as a DOCTOR in Training
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 26. 01. 2021
- How much money I make as a doctor in residency? This is a VERY common question I get asked. The road to becoming a doctor is very long and tough to say the least. We are definitely compensated well after training, but during our training we are underpaid and overworked to say the least! In this video, I shed some light on just how much money I make in residency year after year. Hopefully, you all enjoy seeing this side of my life as well!
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And now the cabinet behind him with a bunch of alcohol makes sense
Ever since I found his videos that's all I stare at when I watch them đïžđđïž
Counterintuitive: A medical doctor promoting alcohol (degrading the internal organs).
LOL! I'm glad someone finally mentioned it. That is a pretty impressive potion cabinet which doesn't come cheap. However, he deserves a sip once in a while with those crazy challenges. đ
@@TheJwebb7 lol you would be surprised how many drink/smoke/use substances
@@TheJwebb7 baaahhhhhhhh -
$13/hour is why I've said it numerous times that Residents are underpaid. I was rollin' $12/hour as an EMT and even that was wayyy too little. Respect Dr. C.
Wow, watched your vids and didnât know you were an EMT. My dream job during med school is being an EMT and possibly advancing to a Paramedic.
good grief, I make more at Walmart.
Hi John!
Don't give a fuck who it is, NOBODY can LIVE on anything under $25/hr, right now, this day and age - FUCK ANY EMPLOYER WHO DISAGREES!!! - AND THAT AINT OUT OF THE LOWER END OF THE ECONOMIC SCALE !!!! STILL !!!!!!!
I'm an EMT in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Most EMT(Basic level) earn $13/hr on emergency ambulances. However the non -emergency passenger (patient) transport company I work for pays $14/hr. LPN's here earn around $28/hr and RN's earn around $32/hr. I definitely went into this profession knowing it's underpaid.đ Cost of living in Oklahoma is 3 times cheaper than where I was born/raised Los Angeles. Being an EMT is a great entry job for aspiring LPN, RN, Paramedics, and doctors. Target here pays $15/hr, Costco $16/hr, McDonald's over $11/hr. Being able to help patients in their darkest hours (hospice) however is priceless.
You're legit man, thanks for making these videos and breaking down what it takes to become a full fledged doctor. Your honesty is definitely appreciated.
Thank you for being so open on a private & personal topic like this. I never asked for a video like this because it's none of my buisness...but it was very interesting i have to admit! Thanks again.
Thanks for being so transparent and actually telling us your salary. So many people beat around the bush and give ranges
This is super interesting - thanks for sharing and being real about it!!! Most videos like this are super vague. đđŒ
I try to keep it real!
In my opinion as a surgery PA, being on call is 100% time spent working. Even if you're sleeping, eating, or relaxing on call you have to be mentally and physically prepared to answer to an emergency. On call compensation can always be better IMO because you're literally a slave to the system while you're on. Major kudos for you taking all that time on call.
"SLAVE TO THE SYSTEM." You said s mouthful.
Nobody on this earth should work 12 hours a day
*Spends 12 years in rigorous school and training*
*Goes deeply in debt*
dOcToRs GeT pAiD tOo MuCh
This
Itâs so annoying to hear đ€ŠđŒââïž glad to see the irony haha
Also they literally keep you alive so I think they def deserve it
@@mercedesbruce968 wonât argue there ;)
No one said that. Relax. We donât talk about doctors at all. About as much as we talk about the mailman
Interest doesnât sleep but is constantly hungry!!!!!
Hey doc. I'm headed to medical school next year in NJ and just wanted to say you've inspired me a bunch. I watch your videos pretty consistently so that I have a better understanding of the field once I dive in. Keep up the good work man, you're appreciated.
Good luck man!
@@ivan4599 thank you đđŒ
Howâs school goin big dog
Sounds like you managed your money well despite the high cost of living. I did my residency in Florida where there is no state income tax. I must say that helped me a lot.
hey cutie pie --- r u single darling .???
@@michaelargenta3856 yes
Itâs crazy Iâm a high school drop out with out GED and taught myself how to weld and now I make 187,000 a year in my 2 year being a welder without collage depth. And I still tell my mom this was the best decision Iâve took.
Damn thats amazing bro i wanna get into welding as a side job but i dont know how to start
Good for you
Iâm for the trades. But âcollege depthâ killed me đ
I honestly canât imagine wanting to be in NYC for residency or even just as a physician in general when you can fare off so much better pretty much everywhere else in the country. Kudos to you, idk how you did it.
I like the new topics of videos how theyâre a bit informative for future docs. But vlogs will always be the OG staple of the channel ( 7 days on call) đ
I appreciate the honesty so much. I just graduated with my BA in finance... now I'm a wealth management intern at Morgan Stanley. Everyone around me is like woo hoo! wall street investment bank yay! ... But i need to earn my stripes at the bank first and as an intern I'm only making $15 an hour. 4 years of education, 8k in debt. So this video is the pick me up i needed. Thank you, Dr.
Wow, you guys definitely deserve more!!! Thank you for all you do!
You will be rewarded greatly, the journey is super tough. Bravo to you and your wife.
It's nice for a doc to be transparent about money. Thanks!
You forgot to add in the part where your wife is a PA. That definitely relieves some financial stress off of you.
I would assume so
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Haha I thought the same . My guess is soon after doc here is done she will be starting a new career of large scale baby making .
@@EdD-ym6le what makes you say that? PAâs make six figures.
:)
He said $4,000 a month wasnât bad!!! Thatâs brutal!!!! Especially going to school for a doctor and being in debt as much as a highly luxury house price in AZ!! I make 4,000 a month being a dental assistant!! Thatâs crazy!!!
I can see the pain in his eyes then he speaks about how much he gets paid vs how much he owes đ€§đ
Pain is real
@@DrCellini why not PA school?
It definitely cuts deep whenever I think about it hahaha
â@@jaymeeification PA stands for Physician Assistant. You're an assistant to a physician. The answer is in the title. PAs are very important for every healthcare team, but the doctor will always be the lead. I always wonder why people don't ask PAs: why not MD school? I can tell you why though, because it's hard.
@@DrCellini wifes a psychologist and is at 450k of student loan debt. Could be worse, thank god for public service loan forgiveness.
Thank you so much for being so honest.
Your videos are very educational & itâs great to know the grass isnât always greener . (Gotta work for it) I think the best move you made was move back to New York. Just donât over exhaust yourself and keep those videos coming.
Thank you for all you do. You deserve higher salary. The world needs more people like you. Doctors are hardworking life savers.
Thnks doc. I am in shock, nauseated. I never knew residents were paid so little amd the road was so long, I thought a residency would be max 4 years. I have worked with doctors for 30 years and from the get go I have been respectful of doctors time. I get to the point. I have gathered my info before hand, assuming what the doc may ask . I have never asked a doc a personal question, go see my own hy appt. I listen and learn. I show respect thru my words and tone with their patients. I am glad. Now I know more about why. I have always assumed the road was oblong and hard, but wow! Thanks for sharing. It changes nothing but confirms my respect.
Really enjoy the educational value of your videos!
Thank you for your your service to humanity Dr.
Very interesting đ Thank you for being so open.
Appreciate the transparency!
I found your channel pretty interesting. I am an RN and dated a PGY-2 med-peds Resident. I already knew how much they make and the hours they work in the hospital. Residency is hard no doubt
Regardless of the money, it's clear that you do this because you love to help people. Thanks, Dr. Cellini! Love the video, it's very informative for upcoming doctors!
Not all doctors are noble. Corrupt ones killed both my parents. Inept, uncaring.
And you make that up in a couple of years. No pity here. Most doctors arenât noble. 700,000 people a year die from doctors frigging up.I despise doctors.,Well then move.
But you always know that once your residency is over, youâll have it made.,You can even harm people and still get rich
Maybe he does, many donât
Well, you should have been a surgeon
Thank you! This was very informative đ
Thanks for keeping it real
Great video! My boyfriend is a specialist physician who has been in private practice for 15 years. Like you, his training was long and arduous and he made considerable sacrifices to be in medicine. I remember him saying that when he factors in expenses, taxes and overhead his take home pay isn't a true reflection of what he should be earning in terms of the years spent in college, training and his level of expertise in his field. Interestingly, he said that a career in trades or as a nurse (factoring in seniority and overtime pay) pays surprisingly close to his net income. He is passionate about his work but he made considerable sacrifices in terms of time, money and various other lost opportunities to get where he is. It doesn't seem to be a wise choice to enter into this career without a passion for medicine or just for the title, prestige or "money". That said, if someone has the aptitude and passion for medicine and he or she instead chooses to work in the trades because the money is fairly comparable that's a loss too.
While a Nurse could make a ton of money with overtime, it is a very demanding and grueling job. The main thing is happiness and the money will come if you're savvy with finances/investing.
I always tell people not to even think about medicine if money is your only goal. Itâs definitely a job of passion
@@billr5842 nah man I'm a nurse, I make a decent income.. but medicine is where its at, I'm going for it
@@occupytosavetheworld do it! I am planning on leaving nursing too but definitely would never consider medicine. For me, the whole healthcare system is getting worse and becoming a Dr. is not what it used to be
C B how much your boyfriend earns now as a physician?
Awesome video, keep up the great work!!
I absolutely love these types of videos! If my professors could teach like this, Iâd never leave school.
Just discovered your channel! Thanks for sharing really inspiring!!
Love your channel and your topicsâ€ïž
The âI feel like a rapperđđ€Ł stacks on stacksâđ€Łđ
Love this!!!!
Thank you for giving us the tea on your salary Dr. C! Youâre approaching the end of the tunnel now. The light is so bright đ.
Good morning Dr Cellini! :) Very interesting to hear about the diff btwn other locations vs NYC. Thanks!
Thank you for confirming that not choosing medicine was a good choice for me. So much respect for you, doc.
If it was only for the money, you made the right decision
Honest and straight to the point with facts. Where will you go next after residency?
Thank you, Doctor.
new subbie (current M3) here absolutely obsessed with your videos!! you're my new favorite doctor youtuber! you make the most fire content and are so real. keep doing what you're doing!!!
So with all this debt and hard work years coming to an end soon, how is the future looking Dr. Cellini? Job hunting? Leaving New York? Just came from a 3 month post op appointment with my orthopedic spine surgeon. Just have to say I am so glad that he made the commitment to study and train. Without his skill I'd still be in agonizing and unrelenting pain.
I'm always thinking about this... And if I said that I fond....to know but your information and all advises are always amazing..! đ
Great teaching
Living the good life! I see that Henry McKenna 10yr bottled in bond đđŸ
I am an MD-2 and I am enjoying these videos. The road to medicine is definitely not an easy one. Goal is to be a Board Certified Dermatologist. I do also agree with what you say about the lifestyle convenience living in NYC.
Nice interesting video, thanks docđđŒ
Just something else to add: you actually made a math mistake for the 80 hour work weeks making $1,051 coming out to $13.13 an hour. If you factor overtime compensation at 1.5 times hourly starting after 40 hours, you would actually be making a $10.51 an hour wage. So even less
Good catch, I came to comment the same thing.
I respect you and all medical personnel that go so many years through medical school for a degree and work your school debt off.. When I was in High School I wasn't sure if I wanted to go to school and have debt or start working.. I've had $10k in debt from dropping out of school and now live debt free making roughly $54k a year learning a simple trade that I didn't have to pay to learn I got paid kind of like your residency but we call it apprenticeship. Nice content
My daughter told me the other day did you see Dr. Cellini in a yacht with a bunch of naked ladies. I was so surprised and I saidâ omg Dr. Cellini is married and I thought he was a descent manâ turns out she confused Dr. Cellini with Dr. mike. Lol
Way to call Dr. Mike single and indecent.
A+ for the indirect slight
@@saintsam7397 you can be single and decent
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I think you daughter is what we call Gold digger
Can you do more videos on the DO route? There is such a stigma and I feel that you have such a voice that you can help end it! The stigma is ridiculous but i believe the more physicians talk about it, the less itâll be
The stigma really only exists online. Iâve spent lots of time in hospitals working with both MDs and DOs and have seen no instances of stigma. I have seen people online say some stuff but thatâs usually out of ego rather than the work the actual field offers. Patients in my experience never asked about DO or MD differences to any of the docs I work with either. A doctor in a amazing residency program like dr Cellini most likely has only received praises for the work he does so idk if he will have significant experiences of stigma
Another great video! Have you started paying towards your loan yet? Iâve heard the interest accumulates pretty high if someone waits until they finish their residency before starting the payments.
I saw a video showing it's more comfortable for residents to pay off their loans later when they start working full time unless they are working in internal med, Paeds or Family Medicine.
A student currently in North Carolina and working on a residency match this season here...Just received an interview invite from a hospital in NYC.....Was scratching my head trying to figure out if I want to rank them lower on my list because of the cost of living there lol..... Thanks for the information.
Really informative to see the US perspective of earnings.
I love watching your channel I'm a forensic nurse 3-4 yrs for my BSN then earning my MSN adds two more years of study I toughed it out ! And I currently am in Massachusetts ! Atlanta and Memphis /Mississippi of course u make less as the housing is so cheap ... I wouldn't change where I am in my career field but there was those days when I wanted to scream my head of . Very inspired by your channel @Dr. Cellini
Thank you very much for the information
âI feel like a rapper stacks on stacksâđđ
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Dude I am LITERALLY finishing editing this exact same video to publish today đ oh well, yours already has the views in a few minutes that mine will get in a week hahaha
@Jamie Byford youâre awesome Jamie â€ïž I didnât mean for this to be a plug haha it was just ironic. The alert popped up over my editing software of his video which is exactly what Iâm editing hahaha. Heâs making the big fellow dollars these days though đ so you can see how us little residents make out. Really appreciate it again though!
Great minds think alike!
@@DrCellini you crushed it man! I think you were too generous on your 80 hour work week as a surgical intern though!! Anyone whoâs ever had to carry a pager knows when youâre home youâre not off. Every beep like sound sends you into a panic.. if youâre not sleeping youâre probably trying to read a journal for journal club or make a presentation youâve known about for weeks thatâs due tomorrow at 5am haha
@Jamie Byford canât tell you how much I appreciate that!
it's the "which is worth a lot right, "sideeye", we will see" for me
We are gonna need this but as an attending now !
Can you do a follow-up video on how much you expect your salary to be in 5 months once youâre an attending? I know there are reports all over the internet about physician salaries, but I sometimes wonder if those adequately reflect the reality. Thanks!
That example as a first year residency itâs a real eye opener.
I work as a nurse in LA, this is my second year of being a nurse and I make about $4,600 a month after taxes. That is absolutely crazy that my paycheck is a little more than yours! You did way more school work/training and have more responsibilities than I do yet the gap is not large and in favor of the nurse.
Also the breakdown of how much per-hour difference is crazy too!!! Training doctors work WAY more hours than a full time nurse and are getting the same paycheck
Oh hun no! Friends of mine make 4600 - 5k right now in a week post Covid! Do travel nursing if you can
He will get tons of money when he finishes training. Don't worry
I noticed the mini bar helping you through those 160hr work weeks....
Hi Dr. Cellini, have you begun paying your med school debt? How long will it take you to pay it off? Thank you for the great informative video!
Yep, pay it every month
Can you do a video on the role of advanced practice providers in IR.
Iâve always wanted to know, is it safe to have a doctor taking care of you that has been up for days... according to research sleep deprivation is just as bad as drinking and driving
You should have added in how much you have to pay back in loans each month. Because raises your cost of living too.
So, while in residency, do you not have to start paying off the loan debt? Is that just piling up interest, and you're waiting until you're an attending before you tackle that? Or maybe hoping to find a practice with at least some loan forgiveness as part of the deal?
Letsgooooo the money question
Congratulations an well done
Nice Video Dude .. but what about after residency .. are there big differences between physicians, surgeons, ophtalmogist etc. .. I would love to see a Video about that :)
Thats some liquor behind. Cool monitor and MX master
Micheal lovely video. can you do a video comparing resident and attending earnings in surgical specialties
âI went from the highest high, to the lowest low which means I took a huge pay-cut.â I think thatâs best thing Iâve ever heard đ I mean itâs terrible how underpaid but yet overworked residents are, but as weird as it is to say it Iâm looking forward to it! Thank you for giving some more insight about what the road to medicine is like!
How about a video of how to best pay off loans after med school?!?! đ đ đ
live frugally....when u see the 6 figure check dont splurge think about your money from a financial standpoint and you can easily pay it off in a couple years depending on your income
NYC is expensive to live in he says. Driving through (without stopping) is expensive. Iâm a truck driver and paying $95 for the GWB is just insane. Itâs not even well maintained.
I'm a 4th year med student from UNC!!! I could have met you Dr. Celini!
Iâm a fifth grade med student IMG from Iraq & I decided to get into diagnostic radiology match in 2023 or 2024
Youâre my inspiration Dr. C.
& I have some questions about research & publications that needed for such speciality ???
Can you talk about that, please!
I give you mad props because even though the pay isnât what a doctor should be making you do have to remember that itâs not about the money. You slave away to help people. Our first responders are heroes everyday. Pandemic or not!
I get paid more working at Targetđź
My medical internship (not MD) charged me $22,000 for 6 months of 40-60 hours of work. They said "just save 6 months of expenses while you're a Grad Student".
âInterest doesnât sleepâ need to put that on at shirt
LOL the first two minutes were hilarious
Thanks for doing it. It's rude to ask, but between living in New York and possible debt one would accrue studying to be a doctor I would be lying if I wasn't curious as well.
Hey dr.mike..
How about making a video summarizing the steps that med students or docs from other countries have to take in order to practice medicine in the USA đ ..
I'm thankful â€
The USMLE!
I'm crying for you. After working 7 tears as an obstetrician, a friend founded and financed a children's hospital in Manila.
Appreacite the information!!
FYI Every residency and fellowship program has the salary for each pgy on its website.
Wow def reason why only the Doctors that have thick skin get by because most people think you instantly make a ton of money instantly
Hey Doctor. You didnât mention what will be your expected salary once you become a fully autonomous attende doctor as intervention radiologist
5 months and pay range is 200-500k? I bet those 5 months are the longest 5 months of your life. I hope you do another one about what income is like as first year fully trained Dr and how it progresses from there.
Random (absolutely nothing to do with medicine): I recall one of your videos showed your desk having capability to be raised and lowered electrically. Would you please plug it by advising brand, model, etc.? Thank you.
I am getting a picc line next week due to gastroparesis ! Can you explain how it is done ? I have to go to the IR dept !
Serious question Dr. Cellini. At the end of the video you mentioned there are plenty of jobs that pay more than being a doctor when you consider the hours of training involved. I'm just curious what jobs you think those are? I've heard other doctors say "wallstreet banker, CEO, etc" but those aren't the easiest jobs to come by... đ€Ł What am I missing here? I 100% agree becoming an attending is hard and requires sacrifice but I feel like it's even harder to become a CEO or wallstreet banker considering there's probably less job openings for those positions. If you put someone with the aptitude to work hard enough to become a CEO through med school, that's probably going to be one of the 1% doctors that creates a new surgical technique or opens a bunch of practices and makes millions (per year).
I can't speak for America, but as an Australian I do know the trades get paid pretty well. For example, an average trade takes about 4-5 years to complete and can range from AU$70,000+ annually. The only differences I can see between a trades person and a person who completes a uni degree, is that a trades person gets paid roughly AU$13-18hr to show up to work and learn. In Australia, at least at my dad's workshop, the employer pays for the 'degree', while a person who goes to university has to pay for their degree.
Trades can charge anywhere from AU$50-$100hr, plasters, plumbers, welders etc. My friends boyfriend has just finished his trade and is now two years into being a fully certified plumber and earns AU$80hr, while I don't know the hours he works we can just assume he works a 'normal' 9am-5pm job. 8x80 = 640x = 3,200x52 = AU$166,400 before tax [we tax about a third of a persons wage (don't quote me, I'm pretty sure that's what it ends up being) so his yearly income would be on roughly AU$124,800]. Plus this hourly rate can increase depending if he chooses to be on-call, work overtime, or works weekends.
Now, this is in an average city/town in Australia, there's obviously going to be differences depending on experiences and availability in the location. But the trades can basically charge what they want as we seem to be in a shortage of trades people.
This ended up being longer then I anticipated đ but I hope it helps!
@@zaramilton1480 no don't apologise this is actually really informative, thank you.
As a NC resident, if you practice in Raleigh/Durham, Charlotte, Winston Salem, Greenville where the major teaching hospitals are located, you're in trouble. These areas are so built up that rent is comparable to living in New York, Miami, Los Angeles. I
If you're working long hours, a cheaper rural home gets old quick.
Ahh a Whiskey man, looks close to empty, way to go Doc,
Cheers