Great to see some definitions here of what performance metrics will get a trader access to significant capital...1%-2% per month for 60 months in a scalable strategy. No mention of Max DDs or Sortino's, but nevertheless helpful as it appears to be coming from a source that is willing to provide that capital.
There are no DD limits, that's what was said in the interview. "There are no drawdowns or profit targets, none of this horse shit." You are also free to trade however you please, use AEs, copy trade, treat them like you would any regulated broker.
Have watched a few of your videos -- (so far from what I have seen) you have some interesting people on, but it is all high-level conversations. No specifics on strategy, methodology / details.... -- of course everyone knows it is about performance and competing. But 'how' did they accomplish their performance consistently etc. I would like to compare what I do with other successful traders-- please get more in-depth during the interviews
What is the advantage having a 15% share from a hedge firm than 80% from a prop firm? I get the index cert and potential bigger captal, but its a massive drop and longer time duration.
Security of source of capital. Real money, real capital. More secure. With prop firms, you're just hoping losers paying for challenges will continue to outweigh the profits of the winners and business costs. And, actual networking.
I can start getting paid next month (I actually am). It's now a funded account after 1 month with no out of pocket expenses. I don't have to continuously flip challenge accounts. Secondly prop firms just trick you into trying to flip a baby account like that's normal. They tell you that you have a 100k account with a 5k drawdown.....you earned a baby account 🍼. By the time you deal with your drawdown rules and take a profit split you have no room to trade anymore if you pay yourself well. Id rather skip all the smoke and mirrors and get paid a little less on the front end with Darwinex. I can see that my growth is rewarded at the end of the month with more trading money, not goofy termination rules and hidden fees. That's why you see CZcamsrs constantly starting new prop accounts. After dealing with these firms so long (I actually am profitable). Darwinex is almost stress free in comparison.
The point is you don't need to make more, 2% will be enough to give you the minimum seed allocation, and develop as a trader for long-term sustainable profitability. If you can consistantly out perform the 2% you'll get more seed allocation.
Yall. You pay money bc its cheaper than paying for the data, broker info, and contracts on a monthly basis. Which is what most futures brokers require. It lets you risk more while not losing your full capital. If you dont understand the value of prop firms, you're either insanely profitable or have no clue what you're doing yet. And if you're already profitable you understand how they work. So. Guessing its a lot of clueless in the comment section 😂
Definitely. If you are a futures trader this may be the most compeling option for funding at the lowest price due to the data fees that you pay on other options VS here. And this allows you to build capital and track record in a more profesional way than other prop firm options. If you are doing FX you have other options but this can help you build that profesional business side of things as it is a path from smaller funding (Darwinia Silver) to larger (Darwinia Gold) and profesional capital (investors capital after achieving gold raking).
If you can achieve these numbers on your own you should be able to build an account yourself with money that you've saved or acquired by other means. There's a motive behind all these companies. Why would you want to remain captive to these companies in the long run?....Doesn't make sense. Be your own man.
Obviously the goal of a company is to make money. But that doesn’t means they don’t provide something valuable to the trader. Otherwise they wouldn’t have been in business for so long.
@@DesireToTRADE Money coming from all directions...Not the forty dollars a month mainly, but to drain the talent of any trader on a hot streak - tie his trades to a copier and multiply with actual leverage/size until he fizzles and on the next one. Kind of how the industry works regardless, but less suspecting.
Darwinex and DarwinexZero objective is not short term gains, their objective is long term sustainable traders. They have a few multi milion dollar funded traders that have been with their ecosystem for 10 years+. Look at Etienne's previous interview with Aatu Kokkila (full title "The $8M Professional Trader - Aatu Kokkila"). He was managing 8M with Darwinex durign his interview and now he is managing 32M in capital with their ecosystem. This is a path to profesional trading at the level of hedgefunds, if you take it seriously.
So, what's the 38 euros for? sounds to me one of the dumbest scams out there. Pay us every month while playing on a demo until we feel you're good enough.
A short attention span is going to be harmful to your pockets. If you're a decent trader you can fund your entire operation without paying a penny out of pocket after your first month or 2.
@@quintonmaldonado8368 What percentage of profit per month and how long does it take until the trader can make the minimum amount of money to cover the monthly costs?
Great to see some definitions here of what performance metrics will get a trader access to significant capital...1%-2% per month for 60 months in a scalable strategy. No mention of Max DDs or Sortino's, but nevertheless helpful as it appears to be coming from a source that is willing to provide that capital.
Glad that was useful! It definitely puts things in perspective.
There are no DD limits, that's what was said in the interview. "There are no drawdowns or profit targets, none of this horse shit."
You are also free to trade however you please, use AEs, copy trade, treat them like you would any regulated broker.
Have watched a few of your videos -- (so far from what I have seen) you have some interesting people on, but it is all high-level conversations. No specifics on strategy, methodology / details.... -- of course everyone knows it is about performance and competing. But 'how' did they accomplish their performance consistently etc. I would like to compare what I do with other successful traders-- please get more in-depth during the interviews
There are a good number of interviews discussing strategies. Search for Jean Francois Boucher or John Kurisko. Those are recent ones.
What is the advantage having a 15% share from a hedge firm than 80% from a prop firm?
I get the index cert and potential bigger captal, but its a massive drop and longer time duration.
Security of source of capital. Real money, real capital. More secure. With prop firms, you're just hoping losers paying for challenges will continue to outweigh the profits of the winners and business costs. And, actual networking.
I can start getting paid next month (I actually am). It's now a funded account after 1 month with no out of pocket expenses. I don't have to continuously flip challenge accounts. Secondly prop firms just trick you into trying to flip a baby account like that's normal. They tell you that you have a 100k account with a 5k drawdown.....you earned a baby account 🍼. By the time you deal with your drawdown rules and take a profit split you have no room to trade anymore if you pay yourself well. Id rather skip all the smoke and mirrors and get paid a little less on the front end with Darwinex. I can see that my growth is rewarded at the end of the month with more trading money, not goofy termination rules and hidden fees. That's why you see CZcamsrs constantly starting new prop accounts. After dealing with these firms so long (I actually am profitable). Darwinex is almost stress free in comparison.
Thanks guys all comments took on board and I did have similar views about security, so I decided to start my journey with Darwinex.
@@quintonmaldonado8368 100% nailed it. The data analytics are a huge win as well.
The higher rank traders on Darwinex are yielding much more than 2% per month. How do I get into the top if I only produce 2%?
The point is you don't need to make more, 2% will be enough to give you the minimum seed allocation, and develop as a trader for long-term sustainable profitability.
If you can consistantly out perform the 2% you'll get more seed allocation.
Yall. You pay money bc its cheaper than paying for the data, broker info, and contracts on a monthly basis. Which is what most futures brokers require. It lets you risk more while not losing your full capital. If you dont understand the value of prop firms, you're either insanely profitable or have no clue what you're doing yet. And if you're already profitable you understand how they work. So. Guessing its a lot of clueless in the comment section 😂
In futures that’s very true. People are used to have almost everything free in Forex… which kind of explains the comments. Great point!
Yep 38-40 euros is the average amount to cover your level 2 market data fees even at props.
Definitely. If you are a futures trader this may be the most compeling option for funding at the lowest price due to the data fees that you pay on other options VS here. And this allows you to build capital and track record in a more profesional way than other prop firm options.
If you are doing FX you have other options but this can help you build that profesional business side of things as it is a path from smaller funding (Darwinia Silver) to larger (Darwinia Gold) and profesional capital (investors capital after achieving gold raking).
If you can achieve these numbers on your own you should be able to build an account yourself with money that you've saved or acquired by other means. There's a motive behind all these companies. Why would you want to remain captive to these companies in the long run?....Doesn't make sense. Be your own man.
Obviously the goal of a company is to make money. But that doesn’t means they don’t provide something valuable to the trader. Otherwise they wouldn’t have been in business for so long.
@@DesireToTRADE Money coming from all directions...Not the forty dollars a month mainly, but to drain the talent of any trader on a hot streak - tie his trades to a copier and multiply with actual leverage/size until he fizzles and on the next one. Kind of how the industry works regardless, but less suspecting.
Who told you that you cant copytrade with your private account while working at a hedgefund?
@@nashi_1111 You misunderstood
Darwinex and DarwinexZero objective is not short term gains, their objective is long term sustainable traders. They have a few multi milion dollar funded traders that have been with their ecosystem for 10 years+.
Look at Etienne's previous interview with Aatu Kokkila (full title "The $8M Professional Trader - Aatu Kokkila"). He was managing 8M with Darwinex durign his interview and now he is managing 32M in capital with their ecosystem.
This is a path to profesional trading at the level of hedgefunds, if you take it seriously.
So, what's the 38 euros for? sounds to me one of the dumbest scams out there. Pay us every month while playing on a demo until we feel you're good enough.
lol you can choose second option fund your own account so you don't need to pay monhtly
A short attention span is going to be harmful to your pockets. If you're a decent trader you can fund your entire operation without paying a penny out of pocket after your first month or 2.
I only paid for the first month. If you get dragged every time you open up up mt4 and can't produce 2% that's not their fault is it?
@@quintonmaldonado8368 What percentage of profit per month and how long does it take until the trader can make the minimum amount of money to cover the monthly costs?