Is it Possible to Beat Sonic 2 While Touching Every Ring?
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
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Intro - 00:00
Emerald Hill Zone Act 1 - 01:04
Emerald Hill Zone Act 2 - 01:49
Chemical Plant Zone Act 1 - 02:21
Chemical Plant Zone Act 2 - 03:52
Aquatic Ruin Zone Act 1 - 06:07
Aquatic Ruin Zone Act 2 - 06:29
Casino Night Zone Act 1 - 08:04
Casino Night Zone Act 2 - 08:55
Hill Top Zone Act 1 - 10:03
Hill Top Zone Act 2 - 12:11
Mystic Cave Zone Act 1 - 15:25
Mystic Cave Zone Act 2 - 15:57
Hidden Palace Zone - 16:20
Oil Ocean Zone Act 1 - 17:53
Oil Ocean Zone Act 2 - 18:32
Metropolis Zone Act 1 - 19:42
Metropolis Zone Act 2 - 23:56
Metropolis Zone Act 3 - 25:03
Sky Chase Zone - 26:20
Wing Fortress Zone - 26:45
Death Egg Zone - 27:10
Conclusion - 27:53
Chemical Plant Route Image:
imgur.com/gallery/U7IRGBV
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One thing: even when you're underwater, you can grab onto flying (swimming) tails, and though you can't fly up, you can jump off and tails will follow you upwards, letting you ladder up out of water.
Wait a second I recognize you
one thing: i dont know why, it doesnt even matter how hard you try.
@@Womoisreal😂❤
Oh what??? Does that work on all games you can control Sonic and Tails on? Iirc that's means that works on Mania too since it runs on the same engine (mostly) as Origins's remakes but I'm not sure about that so take it with a grain of salt.
Try that on mania cause when i tried it i couldn't jump off and i died to the void
First time in my life I see those secret paths in Chemical Plant act 2, played this game hundreds of times and there's still secrets to discover, its crazy
In a game where the level layout feels like if you shuffled a thousand cubes into different shapes and spread them across the screen like butter. Its exoected
It's fun to see the subversion to "Can you beat X without touching Y"
There's a megaman character called Y!?
*inversion
Sorry, I'm a recovering Troper, it's a hard habit to kick.
😂sonic a
Playstation users "I see this as a absolute win"
twitter speedrun
Fun fact I learned: the Special Stages have perfect bonuses too! However, it would realistically take way too long to even try.
New video idea? Personally, I'd say most of them are possible, but... how does anyone do the third part of the final Special Stage while getting anywhere close to perfection?
Not all of the Special Stages can be perfected, even with TAS.
Yeah impossible
@@wyattm6782Blue spheres
@rolebub2955 no Sonics 2 Special stage Perfect bonus in all of them
I like how you show pretty much everything, not just a few obstacles in a given zone. It's fun to watch. I'm going to subscribe!
It was super fun to watch
Its not often, that a video this long has me hooked beginning to end
I think the reason for the discrepancy in Emerald Hill Act 1 is because of the section where there's two pyramids of rings and a checkpoint on top of a loop. Both pyramids look to contain 10 rings, but I am fairly certain that 3 of the rings are actually duplicated.
I don't know if they show up as such in a level editor, but I do know from playing the game as a kid that when you left the special stage as Sonic on the Mega Drive version, your rings would be reset to 0, so I would always collect those rings again and I would always end up with 23 despite there looking to only be 20.
Impressive thinking to get around those one ways, especially in Metropolis Zone. I absolutely thought either it or Hill Top would be a run killer, even after the explanation of how the Origins version changed ring placements. Well done.
So someone actually went through Sonic 2 and made every ring obtainable for Origins. That's awesome.
really is awesome
Wow, I'm pausing 15 seconds in to comment on how much you sound like Cybershell. Now to take a big sip of water and return to the video
This was absolutely insane!! I love masochistic challenges like this. I CAN'T BELIEVE some of the stuff you came up with for this!! I'm glad i clicked on your channel to see if you did anything else cool beyond the TTYD video. It's a shame not many others did the same.
Now imagine this as a
speedrun.
I wonder how optimized Perfect% would get.
Probably getting 9:59 on most of the levels :)
These are really well paced and entertaining challenges. Can't wait to see more!
Yooo it’s the guy
That Hill Top act 2 route was insane! Good job figuring that out
I've played this game since it came out, and I had no idea there is a perfect bonus for getting every ring. 😅
edit:Another prohibiting part of using the Genesis version for this challenge is that you can't fly with tails. That wasn't added until Sonic 3, (along with shields and insta-shield) but I'm sure you already knew that.
That Hilltop Zone strat was kinda brilliant. Well done, hell of an accomplishment!
Was hoping this would be the classic version, not the Origins version 😅
I was today years old when I found out that the Chemical Plant warp tube direction is determined by the timer.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who plays Death Egg that way!
If you want an insane challenge, I offer you a challenge no other CZcamsr has accepted (or read my comment either most likely)
Complete Cannon Fodder and keep Jools and Jobs alive until the end. Anyone else can come and go but you have to keep those two alive throughout.
I believe in you
Wow, I had no clue about the secret path made for Tails in Hill Top Zone Act One! So they had the idea for character ability specific paths even in Sonic 2. That's wild!
FYI that's a new path present only in the 2013 mobile/Origins remasters. It's meant for Knuckles though Tails can also take it.
i dont care about the challenge the "IM OUTTA HERE" at the end got me
Brilliant work. Didn't think you'd even make it past Chemical Plant!
simple answer: no. there are ring inside of the walls that u cant get.
Edit: ok they fixed it in the origins port but on the genesis there was.
Nice video. I really liked the solutions you found for Hill Top 2 and Metropolis 1.
POV you ignore cybershells proof of how impossible this is
what did bro mean by this
@@bluntshooter what? Did you forget there rings in places that are impossible to reach, mostly because most of them are inside walls
@@SonicsGamingHub_YT this is the sonic origins version
The trick to the openings in the walls in Emerald Hill are these invisible objects called path swappers. There are two "paths" or collision planes Sonic 2 and later toggle between to allow Sonic to go through loops and such (Sonic 1 only had one collision layer and loops were a programmed exception but this is why it has no crossing paths). If you are on path 1 for example, the wall is solid. You'd have to cross a path swapper to get onto path 2 and then it's not solid. You can see these objects in debug mode in some versions but a level editor makes it super clear where they are and how they work. They also are used for when Sonic needs to go in front of or behind level art so they can also be used to do that with or without also changing collision.
Imagine doing this in Sonic CD, probably be hell traveling through all the Time Warps
Great job! I'm having a blast with these videos! :)
I love your content, please keep uo the good work! Both two last videos were amazong
my god, the amount of secrets is astonishing. you're amazing!
This is a great video man!
If you made more stuff in this vein, I'd definitely watch it :)
When I was a kid, I used to play the rom hack Sonic Delta and try getting every single ring in every zone (as there was a ring counter that counted both the rings you collected and those you didn't). I probably didn't complete many levels, but given the version I was playing was based on the Mega Drive version, I doubt it'd been a success. Thanks for doing this challenge years later!
DE is truly impossible as you need at least one ring to create a perfect bonus in the stage itself
Actually that’s not true. In Death Egg Zone, you get a perfect bonus with zero rings. I tested in it debug mode.
@@Melmoth54 I’m sorry dude but I’m pretty sure that using the origins version of Sonic 2 counts as *cheating* because origins removes the impossible rings and your meant to use the genesis version so basically Cybershell’s words still stand but until you can prove that *it is* possible to collect *every* single ring *in* the genesis version of Sonic 2 Cybershell is still right
You tore this game apart in a way I never thought possible
great video and challenge, impressing.
going to watch more videos for sure! :)
I bet headcannon did this just to spite cybershell
Title should be: Is it Possible to Beat Sonic 2 Origins Version, While Touching Every Ring?
Another detail that makes this challenge impossible in the original game, tails couldn't pick up sonic. It's funny they kept some of the programing oversights though, because they're just as necessary.
I love how there is so much de*_TAILS_* in that version of the game.
I usually dont comment on videos but man is impressive, goodjob for your work
Great video! Looking forward to more from you :)
I love these vids challenge
Great video dude! Watched your TTYD and this one back to back! Can't wait to see more of your content!
9:44 "Slippery little bastard. I don't have time for this."
Did made this challenge for myself as well and it’s like you read my mind seeing how you dealt with the particular challenges.
I know in the Genesis version you could use Tails to open the doors in Hill Top Zone from the other side by moving so the doors are off screen and deloaded, move Tails to right before the door, and then scroll them back onscreen. I don't know if this is possible on the Origins version however.
Yeah I tested that and unfortunately it didn’t work. Practically every glitch from the Genesis version was removed, which made this run quite a bit trickier.
They removed every Genesis glitch but added the "can't get crushed if you're crouching" and "block in Casino Night disappears if it crushes Tails" glitches lol
Lol I used to watch these TAS videos that collect all the rings in every single zone using various glitches and routing that is beyond my comprehension. As it turns' out I've heard a few others in the community call these "Ring Attacks" where the goal is to try to collect all rings or as much rings you can and finish the zone. For TAS speedruns in this case would be to get all of them. But I have seen others collect every ring in a few zones so its entirely humanly possible. The Sonic M2 port on Switch even has this mode called "Ring Attack" much like "Score Attack" where the goal is to collect rings. So out of interest I wanted to try this myself and its really fun and really satisfying to collect as many rings as you can and watch that score tally go up, and up, and up. I've tried these for the other games too. Up until Matble Garden Zone if you have all 7 Emeralds by Hydrocity Zone, you can get 50 Rings-per Giant Ring. If you play super well you can get more than over 999 rings in total. Marble Garden Zone became so much more fun for me to play because of that. I'd always come back to Sonic 2 for these playthroughs too. I can say watching this There were so many things I just learned through this video. I've been playing Origins and the M2 port religously since those came out. But I had no idea there were rings in such out of reach areas (Like Chemical Plant Zone Act 2, or Casino Night Zone Act 2) Although I knew about the Tails paths.
I did also want to add since the goal for this is to get the perfect bonus. You could skip Mystic Cave Zone because your ring count resets once you enter Hidden Palace Zone, and you can't finish Mystic Cave to get to the Flicky Capsule. But otherwise. This was a great watch. After like, 10 years of my life playing Sonic 2 (? I don't remember exactly) I never even knew this had a perfect bonus feature. Nor did I really pay attention to it lol. I learned a lot from this video and it gave me some ideas :)
Me: Wow, this video is really good! I wonder what else this channel has?
Also me: *Realizing that they haven't posted for 10 months and this was their last video*
Wow this chalenge is insanely hard. Congratulations 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
ERM ACTUALLY THE EASIEST BOSS IS PALMTREE PANIC BOSS
Man went through actuall hell to do this
This man made sonic 2 history
6:42 it actually IS possible to collect those two rings in the Genesis version using 2P Tails off-camera and thus get a Perfect Bonus in AR2. He ignores collision with sprite-based objects when off screen. Video: czcams.com/video/OMtvSr5AsYk/video.html
2:00 go up top first. Stand on the bridge and hold down til the screen shifts down. Then go back down and you can jump right in.
Well, at least it’s possible to get every ring
In the blue sphere stages to get a “Perfect”. However, Metropolis Zone is as hard as hell. Sega did it with Eggman's fortress in West Side Island
This is seriously impressive. Props
Much respect for doing this challenge (which is way worse than getting all the chaos emeralds)
i didn’t think i would like this video but the effort in hilltop and metropolis act 2 made me press Like
2:05
"I beat the easiest boss in sonic history"
Sonic cd palmtree panic zones boss: "are you sure about that?
"Nothing compared to Hill Top Zone act 2" You're not the only one;
Go to "Darkness the Curse" and ask him about Hill Top Zone act 2 . . . Sure he can tell you all about that (in his Sonic XL game play) :3
I didn't realize about the perfect bonus
10:03 I got the perfect bonus in Hilltop Act 1 by accident. I still don’t know how I did that.
This is greater than creating the first airplane
1:26 that could be the super ring boxes since you already said that "super ring boxes don't count towards the perfect bonus"
My theory for a reason that you could've gotten the perfect bonus with 299 rings in Emerald Hill is because you may have gotten a ring monitor and ended with 299 rings. Obviously I have no proof for this but it could be the reason.
I was today years old when I learned the thing about the pipes and the timer, I've been playing Sonic since 2007...
Hit every badink in Sonic 2
Seeing the score going over one million points but not showing the first digit of seven is the worse kind of blueballing I've ever experienced.
Gaming God. God tier gamer. The master and savior of us casual plebs
bros making it sound like a lifesteal smp video at the end of every act💀💀💀
I didn't even know there was a perfect bonus for ANY stage
There is, but in the genesis version, it's impossible to get a perfect bonus in Act 2 of Casino Night, Mystic Cave, Oil Ocean and Metropolis as there's at least 1 ring that can't be grabbed with any method. At least Origins removed those impossible rings, so that's a plus.
@@tylermercado1445 uh ya so that’s basically *why* I say that using the origins version is *cheating*
@@samsheyman1312 that's just sad dude
@@samsheyman1312You not the one playing? You do not set the rules.
@@lemons38 how is it sad?
Holy shit he finished all Metropolis acts with more than 12 rings!
Great video!
Obvious next step is to try and do this in Sonic 3. Given how massive 3's zones are though combined with Knuckles' routes that would probably make more stages impossible than not. Perhaps a different game then? CD comes to mind.
false advertising, i was told i was watching Cybershell
My best guess as to what's happening in EHZ 1, is that each zone has a hard-coded value for the number of rings required for the Perfect Bonus... with this number corresponding to the number of ring objects in the layout. For EHZ1, it's 296. There are likely 3 erroneously duplicated rings somewhere in the level, putting you to 299. Because 299 is greater than 296, you still get the Perfect Bonus, likely because it does a Greater Than/Equal check to the aforementioned hard-coded perfect value.
As well, the new routes are not Origins additions, rather, they are ported over from the Taxman 2013 remake.
Bro cheesed the aquatic ruin boss
I remember trying to do this challenge back then when Debug Mode is starting to feel old.
Just then I figured there's alot of rings scattered around that cannot be taken out of ordinary means.
I'm really curious how it will play out but it really makes more sense that this is Origins and not the original.
And Mystic Cave Zone 2 Player somehow is just giving me a really really weird kind of nostalgia. It just hits different compared to others. Hidden Palace is using this now but track 10 is something I remember I kept playing back then because it's not everywhere.
Am I the only one who never knew they were called "super ring monitors"
keep up the challenge videos, really entertaining stuff :)
I do like Mystic Ruin Music it kind of reminds me of Inspector Gadget theme song by the way it starts out. It is one of my favorites in Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
For people who is going to try in the og, There are the rings in the floor.
Great work, congrats super cool video!
I had to say this:
At 15'23 in the video when @Melmoth says "backwards", the moment he says "back" coincides exectly with the yellow bumper sound effect.
I guess I'll never know if this was made on purpose or happened by chance...
she cyber on my shell till I jelq
Casino Night OST best OST. Also is the Hidden Palace zone in the OG version of the game? I had no idea it even existed, and I musta played the game hundreds of times as a kid
Hidden Palace Zone was a Zone that was supposed to be in the original game, but it was scrapped. In the 2013 rerelease, the team created their own take on the Zone and put it into the game as a secret. It's also in the Sonic Origins version of course. In the original game, that pit just leads to a bed of spikes you can't jump out of.
Sonic two, without any rings
I've only ever gotten the perfect bonus in Emerald Hill acts 1&2.
Impressive! How long did that take in total?
1:34 if the rings touched sonic's hands while tails is flying with him the rings will get doubled I was pretty shocked when I found that out but it's true
TODAY I LEARNED THERES A PERFECT BONUS IN NORMAL STAGES IN SONIC 2
wish i could play but my mom and dad said its to much money so watched some videos and i came across this it was very cool
Obviously you need to find someone who you're Pacific Rim Drift Comparable with and do those special stages.
bro is the lord of the rings‼
Crazy that they programmed a Perfect bonus knowing full well that some rings would be unreachable. Whoever made this game should go to jail... oh wait...
the game has some hidden untouchable rings from early builds
No chemical plant zone has the best music in the game
Facts. I think the exact same thing. this guy is so wrong
Good video
8:10 YOU MONSTER!!!
Regarding the special stages... I know it's not an official version of the game, but would the Perfect bonuses be possible on Sonic 2 Heroes? That gives you 3 player mode and I'm wondering if that could be used to grab some of the wider ring formations that would be impossible with two players.
Wow, I thought this was impossible. I tried so hard to do this as a kid on my uncles Genesis. I was able to perfect the first two zones no problem but Chemical Plant 1 always stumped me and now I know why.