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I know nothing of final fantasy but titan in 9 looks so much like he is just here to have a good time but is so large that he can't help but be a destructive force of nature.
Like that smile on his face is so goofy and I love it
this 100%
He looks like he's cheering on his favorite sports team and accidentally causing an earthquake in the process.
To me it looks like he knows what him fighting will do and he's smiling, smiling at the thought of being used for battle and almost eager to continue fighting. Which honestly is a cruel and great way to portray the earth itself. Happy in battle and eager to see it continue. Not wrathful, not intentionally cruel, but cruel in it's joy in combat.
He's just happy to be here with his little buddy Fenrir
FF9 titan design reminds me of the style of Shadow of Colossus with the eerie emotionless look of the face. It truly has this feeling of ancient old world power. Since we only see its head and arm, it really makes this titan feel so much larger. Leaving it to the player to imagine the unrevealed portions, which add to the mystic. Very cool.
This has made me want a series of Shorts on the Colossi now, would love to hear Skyen's thoughts on them.
Very Diglet-like
It's not Titain it's Fenrir@@BlackFalcon269
And very very occasionally, he is a fourwheeler roadkilling the players while music plays where the subtitles only say "Unintelligible screaming".
I really wish these shorts also would take a quick glance at the -dramatic- Eden reinventions of the summons because some of them are INSANE
"That's not very bow down overdweller of you," he yells before he runs your party over.
That version also seems to lean into Ronka iconography.
I’m sorry what and when that sounds fucking amazing
@@Traten65 Only so much you can fit in 60 seconds unfortunately. Compared to the Pokemon and LoL shorts he already seems to be struggling slightly to fit actual analysis in these since so much time is eaten up just going through each design.
I also love that in FFIX, Titan isn't summoned by your summoner, its summoned by Fenrir when you summon Fenrir. Fun little synergy.
The interesting thing about Titan in XIV isn't even the other titan everyone lovws so much (although it is cool), but that he's probably got the most visual connection to his history as a beast tribe's god. He's summoned by the kobolds, and he's got a big, rough and scary version of the kobold's own faces... which we didn't know until several expansions in, because all the kobolds pre-Shadowbringers wore full masks and helmets.
Honestly 16 Titan’s face mask looks to me less like smth a wrestler would have and more like natural tusks, which makes sense for how FFXVI’s Titan looks the most “feral” and “wild” out of all his incarnations
To me looks like tusks mimicking/evoking the shape of the classic luchador mask.
They literally become feral when they lose control. They're bigger, more similar to forces of nature or "animals" and cool as fuck. I never looked at titan thinking "oh hey is a big af luchadore made of rocks". More like "oh shit that's a BIG angry guy made of rocks". And when he loses control he becomes even more huge and more like an angry continent who tries to kill you while you fucking climb him with the most badass song in FF16
They also missed the part where he powers up and turns into an actual mountain sized rock mecha
I've got a lot of fondness for FF16 Titan almost entirely because of Kupka and how fun of a character he is.
Fantastic character, fantastic titan design, and easily gives the best eikon powers. Seriously, the titan powers were by far my favorite, especially the counter.
Soul flayed Spirit flown,
HEART OF STONE
FFXIV's version of Titan within the Eden questline where he's part Transformer with his legs that become a Quad Bike just rules, and I wish there were a spotlight on the alternative designs from that part of the game with the Summons.
I hope I'll be able to see Skyen go through the questline on stream when he goes back to the game.
Ah yes, the All Titan Vehicle that I kind of wish we got as a mount for that raid tier
From the end of 3.3, where Skyen currently is to the end of 5.3 when you can meet the Heritor of Crags ... I think its going to be a year or two till Skyen is there.
@@MaelraJade Depends on when he manages to find the time to get back into it.
ff14 Urainger: we musts needs reconstruct titan from thine Memories. WoL: how many wheels? four right? Urianger: i believeth four.
While I agree IX Titan looks the most like a part of the earth, Hugo definitely *embodies* the Earth the most of any Titan. The man is a mountain entirely unmoving, unrelenting, and y'know, Titan Lost is a thing as well.
16's titan looks like an extremely violent predator on two legs, with it's teeth-like tusks and sharp protrusions everywhere. You typically don't expect these features in a humanoid giant. It is so over the top.
I absolutely love FF16 having a Reveangance-ass vocal theme during the fight. Also similar to the A-L-E-X-A-N-D-E-R song in 14 (which makes sense cuz same team) It truly felt like an Asuras Wrath battle.
Atlas does not hold the world. He stands on the world, holding up the sky
16 Looks like Megatron.
XIV also makes him into a car
I would love to also see your opinion on the secondary appearances for XIV from the Eden series.
I felt like I've never heard of this summon before. Then I realized that I've never played any of the games it was featured in. 😂
Titan is an interesting summon. As FF4 was my first FF game I ever played, he was my introduction to summons (not counting the mist dragon) as this giant who was able to literally split the mountains and create a giant canyon from an overwhelmed little girl whose mother was recently slain.
But yeah, I admit that I do put Titan in the same boat as Ramuh where I’m a bit torn away by “giant human-like who is very proficient in their element,” but I’ve come to grow to love their overall design. That and 16 did a nice job in helping to sell Titan as a powerhouse (albeit the fight was definitely extended out far and away). Might not be a personal favorite, but I do enjoy Titan as a summon.
I find it fascinating that FFX doesn't have Titan in its roster of summons, but it also makes sense? because FFX setting is the one that's closest to nature, to earth, however shattered and scattered it may be in Spira. every summon is an embodiment of the original spirit's... desire? character? or even its culture, with how Shiva's ornaments are reminiscent of Guadosolam, and her coldness is not only due to the environment of Macalania's temple location, but reflection of how Guado as people are perceived as noble and *cold* ... a spirit of beauty, coldness, connection to death, as Guado are protectors of Farplane in their home.
so there is no need for a Titan fayth - he's already seeped in everything throughout Spira. the spirit of the world, if you will.
Nothing’s better than summoning Titan in IX to uppercut fools into the stratosphere
always liked FF9 Titan's design, it remembers me of Shadow of the Colossus design, and it looks like a real earth golem
9 feels like they worked in some of the face and energy of Brothers from 8.
The fight in FF16 though- iconic. I'm looking forward to your Leviathan review.
Well all the "summon" are cool as fuck in FF16. My favourite is actually Odin because he's just a big ass knight on an horse but he's like "fuck it I'm gonna split the ocean, diss you, beat your ass and after all this I'm gonna make the ocean close on you". Odin, Titan and Bahamut really made me think that they're capable of destroying the fucking planet. The others? Phoenix is ok, Shiva is hot but not impressive like the other and Ifrit is a badass. Ramuu is kinda mid but Ciel was the goat
Tighten is my favorite FF summon
the music choice here is good as always, but I do wish we had time to sample in 'Under the Weight'. BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER, indeed.
Once again, Skyen shows his very good taste
I wish they had the Eden's version of Titan where he had his own atv
I love your shorts so much!!
Damn, I was hoping for a shoutout to the alternative XIV "vroom vroom" version of titan
XIV has alternate designs for all of these summons so far, too. Though Ramuh does get combined with Ixion to make him some kind of centaur wizard.
The alternate Titan is similar to the older depictions, but he wears an armor that transforms into an ATV he rides around.
9 and 16 are probably my favorite, id love for you to do one of these on Gilgamesh.
The DS remake of FFIV also had a design similar to IX
Ngl, i never realized it was Titan Fenrir called, since he looks so different from any other Titan. The only reasons i can think to have Fenrir over Titan directly is avoiding comparisons to young Rydia and access to a wind alternate, which is more Fenrir's element.
Titan 16 reminds me of an AOT Titan. With the exposed teeth and all…
Titan 14's edenverse design deserved a shout-out too!
Someone wake me up when the castle starts walkin
Remember how Rydia summoned Titan accidentally near the start of FF4? That was amazing.
Also, I remember Titan was vital to defeat Asura later on. I think I was a bit underleveld in my Pixel Remaster playthrough.
Man, kinda want to see Skyen revisit these in one short if he ever does Eden Verse in ffxiv
I love how that mech design both makes him look very futuristic while keeping him down to earth. I’ve always loved mechs who look like they work in a factory when not fighting aliens or whatever poor enemy you decided to test your new summon on.
FF16 Titan looks like the zombies from dying light
FFXIV SPOILERS AHEAD! EDITTED DUE TO COMMENTS BELOW! LOOK AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
One problem: Final Fantasy XIV has TWO Titan designs. In fact, XIV gave second designs to Ifrit, Garuda, Shiva, Ramuh, Titan, and Leviathan as a result of the characters visiting a different world at one point. Felt that was worth mentioning.
Skyen is playing 14 is in Heavensward so probably maybe kinda spoilery
@@sango323 Sorry. Had no way of knowing that.
Atlas doesnt hold the world he holds the sky
I love 9 too but mostly because the quick summon animation where it just suddenly *YEET* the oponent
FF14's makes me think of an old sumo wrestler, which is helped by his fight being an arena shrinking down that he's constantly trying to knock you off of.
Yeah, me too. I'm surprised he didn't see the sumo wrestler silhouette in Titan!
Hi, Skyen, I hope this finds you well!
I'm a big fan of your work.
I find your personal, at times even intimate, takes on designs a delight to behold.
Your interpretations & views are invariably interesting and well considered to me.
This short is again great work!
FFIX's Titan is also my favorite; as a design I'd say it's head and shoulders above his titanic peers. 😉
I wanted to offer you some information/a correction regarding Atlas, I hope you'll find interesting.
(Mind you, I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned any of it to you.)
It's a common misconception that Atlas holds the world.
Rather, he is holding up the heavens, while standing on the world.
(We can compare it to the Atlas Mountains, with which he became identified: the range is on the earth with the sky above.)
The misconception is due to artistic depictions of Atlas where he's shown as holding up the heavens in the form of a celestial sphere (with stars on it, or constellations as understood in myth).
Many understandably associate such a prominent sphere primarily with our planet (and secondarily with specific heavenly bodies).
Plus the heavens as a whole aren't commonly visualized as a single orb.
And so they misinterpret the celestial sphere as our terrestrial one.
(It's also worsened by modern artistic depictions in which Atlas actually is erroneously holding the world.)
To return to your take on FFXV's Titan: he's aptly holding up a meteor, a representation & part of the heavenly sphere, that would otherwise cause a catastrophe.
Tell me what you think!
I guess they don't make him rock or dirt-like too often because he can get confused with Golem, another summon made of rock, dirt or scrapped metal depending on the game.
I love how 9 is the game that kinda solidifies a lot of the summons current designs
Eden's Gate Titan: vroom
Titan from 11 and 14 is the only one I can't take seriously. The rest look like some hiking brute who could snap you into pieces. 11 and 14 look like an angry chicken nugget.
I personally like XV for the way you find him. Also, XVI looks like Megatron
Oh shit you're right
The fun thing about XIV’s Titan is that he physically seems the most strangely shaped, as all the other titans seem to be very humanoid or flat out being a dark skinned human while Titan in XIV appears more rounded and like a rock with legs and arms.
This nicely fits into the idea that this Titan is just the idea of Titan the Kobold beast tribes came up with, he has their face but besides that shares few details with them, looking more like a rock.
It’s a fun bit of in-universe personification, where humans will liken human attributes to abstract ideas (ala Lightning coming from bearded sky guy) the Kobolds personified rock to be like them and brought it into existence.
FFIX Titan resembles The colossi from Shadows of the Colossus.
Atlas holds up the sky, but that's a nit-pick
FFIX Titan looks like he has a mountain range for a bottom jaw. I like it
A small correction. Atlas holds up the heavens, not the world.
Titan is someone appreciate in games since his look is kind of consistent everywhere. Granblue also has his summon as a huge hulking dude that swings a sword 2.5x his size.
There is another version of Titan in ff14 within shadow bringer's after story raids and i have to say it's my favorite taking a bit of the wrestler motif with a theme that makes the feel of the Lord of Earth truly a strong being
Atlas holds the sky not the world, the statues of him holding the "world" are celestial spheres to represent the sky and constellations
Mmm, hate to cut you off, Boss...
Atlas holds up the sky.
Now i want a design review of the colossi from Shadow of the Colossus
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER
TITAN!!!
Missing the Eden version of Titan from XIV (also forgotten Eden Versions of Shiva and Ifrit for that matter)
Eden Titan: Vroooooom!!!
Tbh when I see 16 Titan his face reminds me of Megatron’s design after the bayverse Transformers films came out, the more intimidating design like in Transformers Prime
Don’t forget about the car version from 14
I kinda wish you'd take a look at revenant wings as well it might be a spin off but it has such a different art style (or two different art styles really with the portrait and the chibified version used during gameplay) and both here and with ifrit revenant wings version is somewhere in between two versions of the same character from the main game
FF9 was so cool with their summons.
And the worst look goes to rebirth. For every Single Summon.
It does crack me up that the titians from attack on titan looks like the version from ff4
In 14 i see him as the chicken nugget thing
Mild nitpick but atlas holds the heavens up not the world.
I do wonder if summons having such drastic design differences between games is canonically addressed? Like I always wonder how a world would explain the differences when this being is already ancient and supposedly unchanged until the next game. If the summons in Final Fantasy adapt per the era that they are summoned to, that would be quite a neat thing. Though I do remember the universe resetting in one of the games, but when that reboot happened in terms of when the games released I don't recall.
Minor note: The FFXV Titan is closer to the original Atlas than you've realised - Atlas originally held up the *sky.*
I really like XIV's design because he looks like a sumo wrestler. It ties into his fight as it is the first fight with push mechanics baked into it. You could be pushed off of the arena and die like how one of the way to lose a sumo match is to be knocked out of the arena.
Furthermore, it is noted that stomping is a major mechanic of FFXIV Titan and it can work either as a sumo wrestler action or a massive child meltdown action, and thus FFXIV can be recontextualized as the protector of a child undergoing a meltdown, but embodying a meltdown, since at some point FFXIV Titan is summoned from a child who had lost his parents to an attempted summoning of Titan.
it's funny (in an well duh sort of way) how titan and shiva were both basically naked, but only one of them carried a particularly sexual vibe
Talk about Bahamut next
Titan is one of those few Summons i think looks better the simpler the design is, so yeah, 9, 7 and the 2d games it is for me.
The FF13 Titan is actually kinda funny with the fact that they reuse his model for Atlas in 13-2, further strengthening that connection between the ideas of both. Since Titan in FF13 is a Fal’cie, it kinda makes you wonder if the reuse of his model means that the ancient weapons used him as a base for their design of Atlas.
Given how Adam was almost identical to Anima, I think it is very likely Atlas was based on Titan.
Parying for a whimshicott design review 🙏
Bow Down overdweller
So, this is a little thing; but Titan wasn't actually in FFVI.
I think his stand-in there was Terrato/Midgardsormr?
I only mention the typo because even though it's easy to argue that the sprite work for Titan is practically identical in the 2D Final Fantasy games: V has a special place in my heart.
FFXIV Eden raid series: C A R
I'm rather partial to the 2nd version of titan in the eden raid in ff14
Engagement!
When you do 14 you should look into the "Eden redesigns"! They're done by Nomura, but he's not entirely unchained. They have the og 6, barring Odin and Bahamut
FFXVI Titans wins it for me simply through how awesome that fight against him was!
I really wish we could get to fight more Espers this way
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't even realize ff9 Titan was Titan at all. I just thought it was some Fenrir bs
I like Titan from 16 cause he gives me Sundowner Vibes.
I agree
nah 16th titan is the goat
FFXIV titan is so cute to me i love his shape
Do bahamut next
Honestly with how much Eden has been spoiled i don't feel that bad talking about it. I can't wait for Skyen to reach Eden because the new interpretations in 14 for all the summons there just completely rock and need an additional video because many of them are some of the most interesting versions of the summons in the entire series because of the way they are created.
Dont forget the 2nd version of Titan from FFXIV's eden raid series where he rides an ATV and runs over anyone who wanders into traffic.
IX reminds me a lot of Shadow of the Colossus
At least the face does, I guess
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Atlas does not hold the world, this common error is due to one of the translations of one of the Atlas myths, in fact he holds the heavens
Love ya
Idk when you produced these, but FFXIV now has multiple versions of the original summons thanks to the Eden raids. Titan has an ATV now.
Yeah no I'll give you XI as the best of them. That said he has my favorite of the Eden remix designs from XIV
Hey Skyen, don't know if you'll reply, but do you plan on doing any more episodes of FF7 Rebirth on your gaming channel?
Hmm muscle men