Religious Trauma : Why I can/ can't give advice.
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2022
- When we grow up in an environment that constantly dismisses our feelings we learn that our personal experience and feelings don't matter.
When we stop taking how we feel into consideration we put ourselves at risk of contributing to our own suppression.
Begin listening to your feelings and work on cultivating the courage to act on them, especially if they've been consistent surrounding a subject.
It's so hard to listen to your own feelings when you've spent years being dismissed! Great video!
"The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. Thousands of geniuses live and die undiscovered -- either by themselves or by others".
She speaks for tens of millions that have not had the honesty or cognitive bandwidth to look deeply into the often morbid psychology of their religion.
I am incredibly sorry you went through this experience Angel! 😢It makes me super sad to hear something like this, but I am truly grateful you are speaking and sharing your story! I am grateful I came across your video because I am dealing with some form of religious trauma (that is not as traumatizing as what you went through), but I did go through periods of confusion, invalidation, hopelessness/helplessness, and times I felt like a bad person, and times where I lost so much trust in God. Thank you for being such a beacon of light, thank you for spreading love, thank you for your videos! I now know God has always been there with me all along and he is there to help me heal. You are appreciated!
Angel, I have nothing but great respect for you! I'm sorry to hear about this experience, but being able to share this story shows how much you've outgrown your former self. You are a hero for many ones who went through hell. Thank you
Thank you, I appreciate that! We're all out here doing our best!
Because we have to learn how to guide ourselves and listen to our true selves that were suppressed
That was eye opening. I remember being taught "the heart is deceitful above all things and can't be trusted" from some bible verse, and "heart" was taught to = "feelings". Therefore I've never trusted my feelings. If I want something, my natural gut reaction is "I shouldn't want it because I want it". Hearing this I'm like "holy crap...that's a crazy way I've been living. I should start listening to my feelings in situations". That's some of the best advice I've heard, because I've put myself in so many bad situations by ignoring my gut and my feelings because I felt like I was obligated to in some way. And I miss opportunities by shoving down my feelings and deeming them bad.
Hi, this verse is in relation to Original sin, it is stating that we as human beings are led by nature to transgress the Law of God, so actions led by our psyche will eventually lead us to rebellion. Proverbs 14:12 echos the same sentiment. Its not stating it to condemn you, its stating it as a matter of fact of our situation in a fallen world.
This is why there is a necessity for the savior Jesus, because we ourselves cannot fulfill God’s Law by what we do or abstain in doing, and so Jesus fulfills it in our place on the cross.
I do feel for what you are saying, i.e why I myself am here, but to be “deceitful” does not mean to be false, it means there is underhanded aspect, the heart could have desires that in essence are “good” but the reasonings for seeking it could be selfish.
Its not the best verse to equate mental health/trauma to as this is speaking in a general sense of how our corrupted psyche leads us to sin against God. Its not saying every single feeling we have is wrong and shouldn’t be trusted, but that to base our lives solely on what “feels right” to us will lead to transgression against God’s Law, and again, its by our nature as fallen man.
@@ricoparadiso that's cute. Thanks for trying but I don't have any desire to go back into your toxic death cult based on blood magic.
Unfortunately, I echo what you are saying. I am learning to listen to my heart again!! Thank you for sharing!
@@ricoparadisoI don't believe man ever fell from divinity, there never was any divine supreme power besides our imagination and the power of figurative language in our historical fiction
Angel hey!
Think everyday how can I have fun!
What can I do for myself today!
Buy yourself presents often eventhough they are small!
Be well and all the best!!
Thank you, Angel. Everything that you have been saying regarding this topic aligns with my deeper spiritual and philosophical world.
Wow at the 5 minute mark she really helped me break down some mental barriers that have been encumbering me my whole life, amazing videos!!
Thank you for this video. Is what I need to hear, Yes, it is completely true, I already know what to do, it is true that our feelings hold the ultimate truth about what is the best path to take. They point about to our ultimate truth and happiness. And I am thinking right now that the main obtacule to leeting those feelings guide my actions is the external obstacules, the so called hard reality of things. Things out of my control that prevents the manifestation of my feelings in real life. Like lack of enough resourses, meaning "the reality". The coersive need of being realistic. Reality is what gets in the way of acting on my feelings most of the times, I mean objective, actual obstacules that I found on the road of life, but I think even those obstacules are there for the time being, that does not invalidate the right path pointed out by my feelings, they are just obstacules and they are not there to indicate that the path pointed out by my feelings was wrong in the fisrt place. To me it is useful and key to be aware of that distinction, because, in the church I was taught, and most christians so believe it, that EACH and EVERY bad and EACH GOOD thing that happened in life needed to be attributed to God's perfect Will, whether for blessing or for curse. Especially because of specific fragments of the scripture which state thatGod's will is perfect and that we need to be constantly watched out for "we dont know what we are doing", also, saying that nothing happens, nor good nor bad, without the validation of God. So, no wonder I ended up distrusting my feelings, they want us to see our selves as poor creatures who are sentenced to miss out on the REAL and most supreme wisdom out there, due to sinful nature. I once heard a priest in the church saying to people that health wasnt such an important matter to consider when it comes to sacrificing for others. I dont see any capitalists living by this rule themselves. But they dont say that if we absolutely all people were to sacrifice for others then there would indeed no one left alive in the world to even keep on sacrificing. It is thus an absurb.
I feel tons of support from you ❤️. Excellent video, Angel.
damn this is so spot on. thank you angel!
Very good. Looking forward to more. (If you feel like it)
Miss you . I am still going through trauma
sorry to hear that; how are you now?
this was just the perfect message I needed to hear today; thank you!
I'm glad!
I luv your videos, I think they are quite helpful, trying not to unhealthily binge watch though ha ha
Haha, thank you! glad they are helpful, and yes to a slow binge, lol!
Hi thank you for your videos. Do you thunk you could make one about how religious trauma undermines our sense of privacy? I feel like it should be each persons right whether or not to share something but in my religious trauma there was a lot of pressure to always divulge everything.
Thank
welcome!!😄
I'm here from Harmonic Atheist.
this is a really tough one. I been close to people who feel broken, little, vulnerable, insecure, etc. Their ages can range from 20s to 90s. Most of them share similar experiences to what is discussed here on this channel and in these comments. They were made to feel, or just grew up, feeling super insecure or unsafe in their surroundings. As they matured, they tried their best to find some kind of safety, but with a very young mind, they found it in things that only a child could see as the answers. As grown ups, these people still feel insecure, probably because of the patterns of fear and security they nurtured in their childhood. As a result, they try to find help through counseling, therapy, etc. However, I notice that all of the people that I know in these situations (not saying that all people are like this) depend on their feelings to guide them as adults, but they feel like hurt children, and this leads them to a constant craving for security. This craving for security overpowers their desire for change in their lives. Change means work, challenges, feeling uncomfortable temporarily to find confidence in overcoming obstacles. Because the changes and challenges do not make them FEEL good, and because they have true insecurities and anxiety, they seem to always find a way to chase the securities they crave, rather than stand up to the obstacles they face. Very often, they destroy the teachings, the lessons, and the teacher on their path to FEELING better.
This is a great video. Thanks for sharing. This is very complex. Feeling great is important, but not at the cost of true growth as a human being. Sometimes feeling like shit is part of our lives so that we'll get off our asses to make changes, not find a deeper cave to crawl into where we feel better. This is difficult to hear and even more difficult to differentiate between the two.
Thank you for your comment. I agree that it's a super complex issue and I definitely did not cover the complexity here. I think we're saying the same thing about people who react to their feelings instead of having the courage to hear them out- decide to listen to what their feelings are saying and create the courage to make a life improving decision.
your comment is all about 'other people' and criticizing them and their 'self help' journeys. I wonder what it would be like for you to talk about yourself, your own experiences, your own inner world of feelings, instead of focusing on what you imagine is happening on the inside of others who you seem to be looking down on?! tbh, your comment sounds full of superiority "I'm not like THOSE people who are so misguided by feelings"! your criticisms also feel like an implicit judgement of those of us on this channel who are vulnerably exploring and having the courage to express our true feelings, and tentatively learning to trust them, after a life time of being told to repress them!
I think you helped explain my point through your comment. Can't thank you enough for that. I am a very sensitive person. Thinking before leading with feelings, especially feelings of anger and fear, has helped me see the world in a different light. This is why I shared it here. People here are coming together to seek help, even myself. Sharing a little truth and love can make a difference.
In Norway Watchtower‘s appeal has been dismissed😀👍👍
What do you mean? 🤔
Are you not making videos anymore?
Took a little mental health break, but back soon :)
@@AngelDeSantis that's good news. I am looking forward to your future videos.
Your experience is what most Muslim women experience, that polygamy (only for men of course) is allowed by God, how dare you oppose it ? And many women have to go through a lot of cognitive dissonance to convince themselves that god knows better and it is his wisdom.
Hi, this was a great video. I understand you come from a christian cult and I feel for your experience being under heavy religious expectations & fear. Yet I hope you know today that Jesus didnt come to instill these burdens on us in a form of conditional love/acceptance.
I want you to know these cults like that one or JW, mormon, etc. place the burden of continual good works to upkeep one’s acceptance by God. This is no different than a majority of other faiths in the world.
Yet Christianity stands alone in that Jesus fulfilled the requirement of the Law(Matthew 5:17) Meaning: we cannot work towards something that has already been done for us.
The pursuit of attempting to be perfect,abstention, good deeds, etc. cannot fulfill God’s Law, we cannot be innocent by what we do but what Jesus did for us as He paid our debt. This is why its called the *Grace* of God. Grace is receiving something we dont deserve, in this case, complete forgiveness of sins. (Ephesians 2:8)
There is now no condemnation when putting Faith in Jesus(Romans 8:1) This is called Justification, we are cleared of guilt forever by Jesus’ work. You never have to fear of judgement again.
Jesus put to death our sin during His sacrifice on the cross & when we put Faith/Trust in His work we receive His Righteousness in its place (2 Cor 5:21) This is known as Substitutionary Atonement. He atoned our penalty, and Jesus Himself was the substitute/replacement for our deserved condemnation. This shows it is God’s own righteousness that justifies us, not how good we are.
All the best to you, I hope this helps you like your videos help me.
"our deserved condemnation" - I think that sums up that worldview!