How We Lost 20 Years Of The American Dream! Politicon 2017
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- At the "What Now, Democrats?" panel at Politicon 2017 an audience member asked the panel what can the Democrats do to help people afford college?
With the party focused on developing a winning strategy and new direction for 2018 and beyond, the question is: how and if the DNC will change? Can it? And what is needed for the party to win back the heartland? Tactics, platform ideas, and potential candidates discussed.
Moderator: Krystal Ball
Panelists: Cenk Uygur, Symone Sanders, Robert Shrum, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, Sally Kohn
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Why is college even that expensive in the US? In Switzerland we have tax funded colleges and boarding schools and some of the best universities in the world for little to no money
Same here in Belgium tax funded, the academic levels of the average Belgian is much higher than the average American. I think most of European countries have higher academic levels than the average American.
If anybody wonders how thats possible, heres a hint: USA doesn't value their citizens equally
Same in Italy. Where are the Shapiro cucks?
Why do the citizens of the richest country in the world act shocked and chagrined any time someone mentions socialized healthcare or education, and act like it's utterly impossible? There are many other countries who are doing it successfully. Why can't the USA?
TimTalksTV On the contrary. You have international commerce, technology, entertainment industry, transnational business... which are way more profitable than "natural income." Chile depends on copper and fruit... How socialized health works in my country? You only need to be a citizen with an I.D. card and voluntarily join Fonasa, the state health system. You pay monthly a 7% of your income, if any. If you have none, a low or irregular one, you get basic care in state facilities, including regular health checks, treatment for most ailments, emergencies, even surgery and palliative care. With greater income, you can chose your physician, clinic, etc. Preexisting conditions are no problem. They don't even ask you if you have one. Age isn't a problem either.
Still, there are private insurance companies that work the same as yours. You pay a lot more, preexisting conditions and age are important issues, but the advantages are that you get the service for yourself, not through your job, and the service is faster and more luxurious than the public one, in which you can wait for years for a minor surgery.
How it is possible that the great United States of America can't do the same or better than third world Chile?
When Cenk is on he's on. Well said.
The woman speaking at 0:50 mentions that the democrats are making loans more affordable.
LOANS ARE NOT AFFORDABLE, PERIOD! Loans are simply funds given to someone to pay for education, but must pay it back later. It's just a delayed financial burden with the hope that there will be a job or enterprise that can give someone a proper income for a livelihood plus paying off the loans.
The key to making education a virtue is to make it free to everyone who wants to learn beyond a 12th grade level.
That was the weakest answer I've ever heard in my life from that lady
Did you see that women the senators face when he said free college? Dry mouth immediately
2:52 for the real answer.
the boring droning lady kinda makes the end really pop imo
up until 2.50: Why Democrats will lose, after 2:50 why progressives will win.
I'm genuinely proud of Cenk and the whole TYT network.
For what?
Lol. Amy Kloubuchar is not a progressive. Interesting, that her answer is aim lower, and go work in the factories that are slowly dying. Go Cenk!
Thank you Cenk. Those politicians with their tired crap.... They completely lack passion, determination and honesty.
You mean leaving study hall and going to career center to "discus career choices" yeah that really solves the problem
this whole event (not just this one segment) is the perfect contrast of corporate democrat and Progresive...
what about providing jobs for the college grads out there? jobs for those with higher degrees like MS and PhDs? WHat about affordable health care and living wages?
Doodool Tallah Providing jobs for the highly skilled can't magically be created by the government. Corporations usually create these types of jobs and lower taxes attract more corporations.
xzcczxc "and lower taxes attract more corporations."
Just like in Kansas?
InfectedByEli Kansas is a shit hole and can't attract a refugee, but even the most liberal of liberals will admit that lower taxes attract more corporations.
Except Kansas just slashed taxes for corporations and the rich which put their economy in the tank. So no, lower taxes does not attract more corporations otherwise Kansas would be living the dream instead of suffering the nightmare of having no money.
Kansas attracted corporate headquarters because they don't have to pay taxes. Attracting corporate headquarters as a tax haven is not the same as attracting industrial and service sector investment that creates jobs, etc.
we need bernie
75 million? We can't afford that? We spend 52 billion on military but no free collage?
Malachi Owens more like 552Billion
There is a lot that they don't include in the number that you gave. Over the last 15 years we've spent over 1Trillion on a fighter plane that still doesn't work.
And sadly neither would be necessary if loan sharks and oligopolies/monopolies were kept in check.
We need a trust buster.
Am i Swooning? I think I'm Swooning.
How about promoting skilled professions
Doesn't take a college education to become a welder, plumber, electrician, roofer, framer, tile worker, carpenter, etc. and most of them pay really well, welders especially.
Cenks face at 2:09 when she name drops Susan Collins. 😂😂😂😂
Thank you tyt for spreading our message
Cenk, I swear if you don't run for 2020 I'm destroying my voter's registration card.
If the democrats sent Chunk up to the plate the map would look like 1984 all over again(lots and lots of red)
He can't
He cant he was born in the ottoman turquey
Run for Prez......I'll vote for you!
How do you teach people about how to be responsible for the loans they sign on for?
Why is Cenk's mics volume lowered?!
hakbug Because he shouts when people try to have a discussion. WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION!! THATS BULLAHIT
Bernie 2020
Damn It!
I want to see the full fucking video!
If the American dream ever existed, if! It has been dead since at least the seventies
we have to free college education via taxing the those who do not pay federal taxes!
Well I think we need an alternative to college
Ugh, what a disgusting panel...
This was my favorite part
#bestpartsoftyt #cenkverbalmonster
Preach it!
badass
If you put me on the show I'll tell you exactly what happened to America and how to fix it is a simple process that started with taking vocation out High School
Freak ya. Frak war. Give my son the education he needs to succeed.
Susan Collins better hide well in the back woods of Maine, she's got a big target mark on her ample nose.
I'm down to have free education but only for useful majors otherwise it's a waste of taxpayers' money
DJ Donald Trump
Yeah, so a road that you don't drive down was a waste of taxpayer money.
Makes perfect sense....
Do you understand what Taxes are?
The Secularist
A road is used for accessibility to differing location which is a major part component to the current economic system we live in. However most majors in colleges are not a demanding/needed field in today's economy hence why a lot of people get out of college with an underpaid job or even no job at all. So at this point you are wasting peoples money since you are not benefiting society at all.
It's a little hard to determine what is useful, especially when some of the technical jobs will be automated. Sitting down and talking with someone for emotional connection is difficult to measure and earn money from. However it does make for a better community--therefore a hidden value that can't be fully appreciated in our current economic system. My argument is that we need a complimentary or a completely new way of rewarding contribution to society.
The best major someone could get probably get...is a major in problem solving and learning. If someone in today's economy went in to a job advertising these credentials--they would be laughed out of the office. Even though, that company could take someone and train them in anything and they would able to learn that and solve their problems.
It's not very clear with a population of 350 million to determine which majors that will help find jobs that are profitable and obtainable.
DJ Donald Trump exactly my point... i specifically wanted it ONLY for STEM field
Chaz Scott I agree that a major that requires a high level of problem solving is probably the best major to have but those already exist. Personally I would say a major in Engineering, Physics, Mathematics, or Computer Science is the most beneficial in that area since they are more complex fields. The problem with other majors is that they are dummied down too hard (to the point where its almost as easy as high school) and don't help for future jobs. Also in some fields (ie most business majors) the area is too saturated to the point where getting a degree in sed field is becoming worthless and is only helping the colleges earn money.
What's up with grown ppl constantly saying "Right?" ... even during speeches and such these days? Are they unsure of what they're saying? It's like listening to valley girls and their nauseating use of "like." Like totally, dude, I'm like all about it...right? lol...
I mean...
moar
It is obvious that the Senator is a classical liberal and Cenk is a progressive liberal. The Senator touts bipartisan answers based upon facts. In order for her to draw that conclusion she would have had to entertain the arguments of her opponents. Cenk pulls the classic progressive stance of victim after the fact.
The fact being that most of our educational institutions have been run by progressive democrat public unions for decades. The failure of that leadership is evident in the Senator's answer. In her own way she infers that we need to be teaching marketable skills and not just progressive rhetoric. Cenk, in his own way , reminds us that without progressive rhetoric he has an empty head.
Boom!!!
Go Sen Klobuchar of MN!
Genk does not belong on a stage
I love Steve Crowder's impression of him
Yeah because he makes sense while the rest are mostly idiots.
#Bernie2020 #AlGoreVP
CJsConfusedMama Gore being VP twice? Not sure he would want to go near presidency after being so close and robbed
katra yeah sorry I forgot about that. But in all honesty that team would be invincible
Who would want to become a member of TYT? Free college? Who is going to go to that college? Its gonna suck and employers are gonna be like pffft who cares you went to the same college everyone else did. It will be just like high school except you dont have to go. Is it going to be free to go to HARVARD? No. Some shitty community college and kids will graduate with no new skills that employers actually care about. Maybe we restructure the mandatory curriculum of our high schools to become more relevant to the real world? Socialized anything sucks and is poor quality.
K-12 is free. why not college? Consider it an investment in the future. We NEED more doctors and teachers and techies, etc. And with more people educated, fewer relying on government assistance. Pays off in the long run.
I am all for an investment in our future, hell i have a 2 year old son. So, i am seriously invested in our future. I just want something that will actually pay off and not put us into even deeper debt. I am trying to articulate a point about the free market and jobs. If everyone has access to college, employers will have an even bigger pool to choose from for higher paying jobs. Do you know what happens when the supply of workers increase? The overall pay for those positions decrease because someone will take less money to do the same job just to get hired. Its simple supply and demand which doesnt just apply to physical products. And then what about older folks who do not have a college education or people who still owe debt. ARe they relieved of that debt? Can older folks "go back" and get a degree for free?
I guess the take away is: YOU CANT JUST SAY FREE COLLEGE. You need to come up with a plan that will work. Problem is, when you start digging into it and putting the puzzle together it just will not fit. We do not have the tax revenue to accomplish it. So, do we raise taxes across the board? Do we go up to a 90% tax rate for corporations? If so, then what do we do about the thousands of people who will be laid off because of that? Unemployment skyrockets!
I tell you, come up with a plan that does not have a detrimental outcome and then but only then will we be able to have a constructive conversation about making it happen.
SmallsPC how would you know? Even ever even experience it? We have it here in Australia and it works perfectly, . Perhaps learn or experience what you are talking about before opening your mouth
Thats not how it works. Universities would not change, its that instead of having tuition costs, the cost of running the university would be subsidized by the government. That's how universities work in the vast majority of the world.
Ill say the same to you NotSoGoth. Prove how, in our system, it will work in our favor at all. Explain how having essential a high school education would improve someone's willingness to work or qualifications. What about a place like Harvard? Is tuition going to be free to attend Harvard?