Rt Hon Lord Sumption OBE QC | Liberty Debate | Opposition (4/8)
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Rt. Hon. Lord Sumption OBE QC: Former UK Supreme Court judge and barrister who has been publically critical of the UK Government’s lockdown strategy. He is also a medieval historian and author of Law in a Time of Crisis.
As Benjamin Franklin said, ‘those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety’. This balance has never been more pressing, after more than eighteen months of moving in and out of lockdowns and waiting for the next to come. Some argue that restrictions are necessary in order to protect society, while others feel that they force us to make unacceptable lifestyle changes. Though we are returning to a world that resembles pre-pandemic life, we cannot ignore the imprint left by the past year. Would we be willing to make similar sacrifices again?
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One of the only voices of reason during this utter madness.
What a wonderful human being. I do hope that someone gives him the opportunity to remake his valuable speech to a broader audience, without all the coughing in the background.
Yes it's strange that young people are coughing so much.
@@ajs41 It's the vax!
Likely someone trying to sabotage his speech.
So called educated students, so ignorant to the simple courtesy of staying home when they have a cold.
Lord Sumption. A man with morals.
The coughing is clearly on purpose.
I wonder. He didn't seem bothered.
Was it a feature of the other speeches i wonder
This man never wastes a word unlike those in government.
Words of wisdom wasted on a room full of fools more interested in disrespecting an incredible intellect than learning from him.
Yes, what an absolute disgrace and debasement of the Oxford Union, if these young people are the so called creme of our intellectual institutions..the future is bleak indeed.
His really is a great intellect. I also admired his bravery in speaking out during the Covidiocy.
Initially, I thought the complaints about coughing were a bit OTT, but really they rapidly became an intolerable distraction. The Chairman clearly had not the faintest idea where his duty lay.
7:50 "The real price of transferring the responsibility of our safety from ourselves to the state is simply too high". Wow. Amazingly well articulated.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
Great speech and will likely fall on deaf ears of the majority. The constant coughing was disgraceful. Any decent person would have got up and left rather than interrupting a speech (although that was possibly the intention!). The Chair should have insisted the coughing must stop!
It would be interesting to see if the coughing was as persistent during other speeches.
Whoever it was should've really stayed at home!
It sounds intentional.
7:44 look at the guy on the left near the the dais, obvious, deliberate cough, and a smug nod to the others in the audience. Shameful
It's a pity this speech was delivered in a doctor's waiting room. Otherwise an enjoyable debate.
The incessant coughing almost seems deliberate. If such a thing happens in the august hall of Oxford Union, what can we expect from the rest of the world?
That's why they are no longer the beacon for modernity...
Yes it's strange that young people are coughing so much.
I think it may be. A deliberate suggestion that he wants virus to spread rampant? Pathetic...
Ordinarily, a considerate person would leave the room/ chamber / courtroom /
conference to finish their coughing fit but maybe I’m old fashioned. I’m not impressed with generation Z...
Whoever was coughing should have been decent enough to leave the room unless they were doing it on purpose.
Is this coughing a protest of some sort? Bizarre!
Nah. There is a nasty cold going round.
@@annaredding Ah, that explains it.
I really do have infinite time for Lord Sumption, and I hope his words reach many insatiable ears. On a different point, what on earth is going on with all that coughing?
Quote from above; "ABOUT THE OXFORD UNION SOCIETY: The Oxford Union is the world's most prestigious debating society, with an unparalleled reputation for bringing international guests and speakers to Oxford. "
If that were true, someone would have dealt with the coughing.
Great speech by Lord Sumption. Perhaps one too many sick individuals in the room, it felt like every other word was interrupted by someone coughing.
Yes it's strange that young people are coughing so much.
Does it not occur that to you that the degree of obvious illness in the audience undermines his audience somewhat?
@@sallenb No.
It is only one person... Who constantly cough.
Those people should have been escorted out
That was too much
Whoever is coughing and spluttering in the background should of had the decency to leave, and the chair should have had to backbone to ask them to do so. How utterly infuriating!
I noticed that was happening in the no confidence debate when Jacob was speaking. Smh!
My thoughts exactly. Seems intellect does not equate to decency.
He represents everything that our Government is not.
How many of those very rudely coughing have any idea of the great company they are in
Dropping like flies in Oxford it seems, to judge from the coughing lol!
The coughing was annoying.
That person was disrespectful and should have left the room.
Why were they not escorted out!!
RUDE...
Cough, cough, cough. How bloody rude. Wish I had been fortunate enough to go to Oxford. I've definitely got better manners than some of this audience!
The vulnerable should protect themselves and have respect for the civil liberties of other people! Yes lord sumption, yes indeed.
I fear for democracy when I hear the disrespect of such a reasonable opinion in the Oxford Union. The sheer motivation to suppress a reasonable position shows the bad state democracy is in today.
It may now be more apt to refer to it as a moronocracy
Can he replace Boris? We need a leader with deep wisdom
Fantastic speech. Completely agree.
Great speech, very clever man bravo
People say listen to the experts and then choose not to listen to this man 🤣
Brilliant speech once again. Many people slowly, gently, voluntarily, bit by bit, fall in love with authoritarianism. Unable to justify themselves to themselves they conjure a world where no one disagrees with them
Eloquent, analytical, and absolutely correct
Without fail one of the finest legal minds in this land, if not the finest. I have nothing but respect for Lord Sumption, we are all the better for having him around. Bravo 👏🏻
You would think that there was an outbreak of bubonic plague at the Union for all this coughing!
This guy is brilliant. Why don’t those rude people coughing excuse themselves from the room??
It sounds deliberate.
The amount of coughing going around is a blatant disrespect to lord sumtion. These are unfortunately the future rulers of our government.
I can't stop wondering whether the coughing was not planned in order to undermine Lord Jonathan Sumption's over-arching argument that, ultimately, it is the choice of an individual, and not of the state, whether or not to take the risk of being infected by going to the places of social and/or professional gatherings.
100% agree. Take risks, live life.
The fake coughing is as obnoxious as it is puerile. Can’t the President make a statement on this?
I fear the Chairman was oblivious to the incessant coughing and spluttering, and insofar he was conscious, incapable of saying or doing anything about it.
I agree, perhaps it's better to hear it so we can judge the people who engage in it
What’s with the coughing?
Is that Omicron in the background?
Lord Sumption FTW❣️
What's with the coughing? Oxford students need to attend to personal health and hygiene a bit better, it seems to me. Wash hands, open windows, eat more healthily. What in god's name is wrong with them or their living conditions?
It's all the mask-wearing.
Covid
Ignorance and disrespect, possibly contagious.
A superb speech. All politicians should watch and learn from this wise man. Not one mention of Peppa the Pig, or losing his notes, either.
' Coughing' was a deliberate tactic by someone who has a problem with freedom of speech .
In a room full of mostly young people, why is there so much incessant coughing? Very strange.
TRULY GREAT MIND !!
I hereby withdraw 99.9% of all criticism I've ever aimed at this man.
The rude coughing folks should have excused themselves
Why are so many people coughing over his speech?
Im about to listen twice and very carefully because fuck those people coughing, you won't stop lord sumptions message from being heard
It does seem a bit odd in a debating society that charges a mvwrshop fee
0:00 / 4:07
Lord Sumption Honest And Truthful Politian, A Man to Admire And Respect.
Brilliant support of basic human rights. Ruined by never ending noise from sick people.
Totally agree.Respect Sir.
Too many people have given up the right not to be confined in a place appointed by the state at the discretion of ministers. The right to go where you please without having to justify yourself to the police. The right to associate freely with other human beings. The right to earn an honest living irrespective of whether the state regards it as necessary or useful. The right to make your own judgements about the risks of daily life in the light of your own circumstances and those of the people around you, rather than having a minister decide for you. All liberty carries risks to ourselves and sometimes to other people. Who's responsibility should it be to limit the ordinary risks that are inseparable from social existence ?
My thoughts almost exactly. Just not in favour of compulsory seat belts.
Stop the cough! In these Covid 'ravaged' times it's rather ironic to be doing it willy nilly.
Not a single face mask in the place despite all the apparent respiratory problems. Was this intentional?
The audio on this is badly done. it picks up a series of coughs, interrupted by Lord sumption
Are students deliberately coughing or are they sick?
If I was Lord Sumption I would’ve said you know what I’m bored with all this coughing I’m outta here.
Who is this person coughing all the way through this?
Who’s coughing ffs
Can that person stop coughing!!!!
Who are these people sitting around him? They look and sound disgruntled and they keep coughing. How weird! I wonder what they're doing in that room. They do look bored. Are they scholars?
I wish the all-powerful State had kept those coughers at home...
The irony here is that the persistent coughers in the audience are the same individuals who are advocates for lockdowns, on the grounds that potentially contagious individuals (ie. anyone and everyone) could in theory pass their contagion on to others if left to roam freely in society.
Maybe it's presumptuous of me to speculate that, in keeping with that hypothesis, those who are showing obvious symptoms of that killer respiratory disease should be the first to do their civil duty and prevent the spread of their malaise by self-isolating, or, at the very least, keep away from crowded environments out of respect for the health of their fellow humans. Unless, of course, their motive is something completely different.
I did not go to Oxford or Cambridge University, so I'm not, obviously, bright enough to arrive at a more elevated assessment.
Any enlightening responses will be gratefully received and ruminated over.
About as clear and well said as possible. Too bad Canadians and Americans didn't hear it about two years ago. And Australians and New Zealanders. One might have hopes that it would not be necessary to make such an argument in the 21st century, but that is the price we pay for government. Ever vigilant, or else.
It's irresistible to observe that it sounds as though many listeners in the audience might have been well-advised to exercise their freedom to stay away from a mass gathering...
They waited two to three generations of daycare children, who’ve spent most of their lives conditioned to listen to an outer authority and not their own automatic internal system. Let’s raise children to think for themselves. Less intervention and hopefully parents with deep insights of a future they’d like to see and not more of the same. More of the same breeds sheep. That leaves far too much room for wolves waiting in sheeps clothing to take advantage of this conditioning.
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What life is actually about........
The noisiest and worst behaved audience lord sumption has no doubt ever spoken to...
I think this argument works well if you’re from a place of privilege. However, if you’re a minimum wage worker do you really have the option of telling your supermarket boss “no I do not want to come into work today because I have made the choice to protect my health.” Obviously not. A lockdown last year would have saved countless lives in those situations. Moreover, as people make this decision to regulate themselves and the NHS becomes overwhelmed what do you say to the people that would die from unavoidable disease that would die from a lack of medical care? Those people that had strokes, heart attacks, and undiagnosed cancer?
Not if they're acting alone.
People are dying from avoidable consequences of their illnesses as a direct result of lockdowns. We should not organise our lives around the capacity of the NHS, we should resource the NHS for the health needs of the nation.
The person deliberately coughing to sabotage this brilliant man’s speech should be assaulted.
It’s hard to listen to him on this knowing he supports mandates and passports
Does he? Where does he state he does?
He only supports them in the context that they are preferable to being locked down. He has said he would prefer that mandates and passports were not around at all.
Only british would complain about coughing