Making an Opal Ring with Carbon Fiber and Gold
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In Today's video, Tyler Makes our new Opal Stripe Ring by taking pure white Bello Opal, Gold and Carbon fiber and creates a beautiful 3 part design that uses a plethora of machining techniques.
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I bought a ring a couple months ago and your content is 100% keeping me on my toes for what I will receive from your team!
no offense to anyone making this but i feel like there was so much wasted material and when patrick was doing these types of rings, he seemed to drill and cut things to where they only needed a little bit of sanding to fit. looks good though!
Honestly if he didn't waste so much material, it would probably be a lot cheaper than $1,400 😅😅😅
@@awesomeness369 couldnt agree more, there is almost two rings worth of opal, as well as two rings worth of carbon fiber.
if you just watch some of Patrick’s earlier videos of rings like this you will learn a lot. Simply put, he used calipers to cut the piece just a hair bigger and sanded it down
@@trevorblum1810 his way was much more precise and with less waste
The amount of opal that was simply wasted was disgusting. I know it's super brittle, but extreme care could have been used to reduce waste. Rushing through a process for a video is ridiculous ever since time lapse was invented. Easily the single most maddening video this channel has ever done.
The ring came out beautifully. I'm always enthralled by the pearlescent luster that Opal has
It's not real opal but yeah
I really love this kind of unique craftmanship, I wished these things were more popular over the standard type rings we see everywhere.
Amazing work!
This turned out amazing!! My fave project, by far 👍
So creative designs! This deserve a bigger audience.
Truly magnificient as always !
I look forward to each episode with great anticipation! You and the guys do spectacular work. Thanks for sharing your time and talent! KANSAS
Stunning work!
Silicone baking sheets are good for epoxy work. Peels right off after it cures.
Looks great! The opal really pops. Where do you get those slabs of opal material?
Oh man these are sick!
Gooood afternoon from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great day!
Man that thing is awesome! Opal is my birthstone. Gonna have to show this to the fiancé and see if we can find something cool like this for my band!
*Love what you are doing there @**3:30** with the steady cutting using a Dremel mounted to your lathe like that. Do you have a link or name of the part that you are using that made this possible or did you make that up yourself?*
boy i would love some of them opal scraps for a art prodject im working on
Thank you for your cool video
Отличная работа.
i need this it is amazing keep your work up
im too broke to get one 😔
that is awesome
Marble and opal would probably look nice as well
I know it'd be very difficult with real opal but would be an interesting watch
Do this with white or blue glow resin + bluefire opal middle channel insert.
Nice
You almost make me want to learn how to do this myself
Carbon fiber is a big feature in a lot of your rings. Have you thought about using forged carbon fiber in some of your designs? It would give it a different look since the process in making it is different.
So shiny
What do you do with the little cylinder of material you cut out of the center for the ring? Do you sell it to someone else to cut into a gem?
I can’t wait to save up enough money to buy one of these Rings
Beautiful ring!! I've been a fan for quite awhile, but haven't seen the channel's videos for awhile.
I remember watching Patrick on here....but, who is the new guy on here doing this ring?
He never says his name...
I personally don’t vibe with the gold and think just opal and cf would look good, but the ring does look noce
Could you do the same thing but with black opal
Do tou have a link to where you bought that opal slab??
First ❤️
Amazing work like always sir
Ur 2nd
Where do you get opal slabs like that?
Where i can buy that sintetic opal?
JUST… NICE
Idea: white blank made of something that will glow white or blue (glow powder clear resin mix) , with solid bluefire opal insert in center channel. I think people would love the feature of stunning light refraction in the day and clearly visible glow at night.
A fantastic video. The ring looks awesome! Please consider changing from the jaw chuck to collets! Especially with gloves on, it can get very nasty. It would be a pity for the fingers that can make such a ring.
Maybe you should mention that it is synthetic opal.
It's pretty obvious.
@@climmer7 not to someone unfamiliar with opal or synthetic stones. There are loads of people every year who buys synth or treated opal believing it to be authentic, paying almost as much as for real, when it is a fraction of that worth. Being upfront and honest with it is proper, while ‘assuming' that people get the (in your eyes) ‘obvious' distinction between synth and real opal when you just say 'Opal' is really amazingly *shady AF*
You should look at the price lmao, $1,400 for a really easily made ring with fake opals and about $15 of gold, if that.
@@daltonparker7792 Yep, that was the reason. Many people believe that ‘expensive=authentic', but that is not the case here. I saw some other comment break down the materials costs, and it seems most of the ring's cost would have to be the labour, at a ridiculous hourly wage. I doubt Patrick pays his employees that much, so most of the ring’s cost comes down to pure profit. It’s not even certain the gold leaf is true gold; it could be a much cheaper alternative with good matching colour, such as can be bought in many craft stores.
If it had been real opal, the costs can go up pretty quickly - but I also doubt anyone would use good, gem-quality opal by crushing it up. A small opal of suitable size can go for between $300 and $1000 -ish, depending on colour intensity, pattern and brightness, and would be a much larger part of the price. Which just further reinforces the deceptiveness of the price and leaving out some pretty important information…
@@mikkohernborg5291 that was my comment that broke it down!!
I’m a little confused on the price… synthetic opal is roughly $0.18 for a gram, you can buy a one pound block of carbon fiber for $15 ((1lb=16oz/1oz=27g) meaning it’s roughly $.03 per gram), and currently 14k gold is $25.90 a gram. So for this entire ring, the material costs are less than $20-$30, so why does it cost $1,400??? It’s not a one off ring, and two of the three materials are synthetic, making this easy to mass produce, along with none of the materials being hard on machinery. Considering the average time for the completion on a plain band being 4-6 hours, this one probably closer to 9-10 total hours, that says that you’re charging $140+ an hour, plus passing all the other costs to the customer.
Edit: I found out where the price came from. “Made in America”. Case closed.
@CloudEpik I collect and make fountain pens. I have a Taccia winters breath, which is a $2,700 pen. I understand the art industry and how things work, this isn’t really it though.
An example I can work with, a Namiki urushi emperor, costs around $1,700-$2,000. These pens take about 3 months to make, using Urushi lacquer (which is extremely toxic and very rare) and requires 20+ layers, taking two weeks for each layer to dry. Along with that, they usually have a #8 21k nib, meaning it’s the largest nib you can buy for a fountain pen, and they are hand ground by Japanese pen masters to ensure they have the greatest writing experience. Along with that, they come in a silk pen sleeve made from genuine Japanese kimono, and are shipped in a wooden box lined with velvet, and come with a glass bottle of ink. It can take upwards of 14 years to be a urushi master or nib master, along with the time it takes to make the pen itself, and that is from a full team of masters.
So why is it that a master made pen, with more gold than a super simple made ring, costs only $600 more? Where is the justification in the costs? Because all I see is more greed, and less passion for the craft. I really want to say I love the ring, but there is nothing about this ring that justifies the cost. If it was $600 I would buy two of them no problem, but $1,400 for one is just ridiculous. There’s not enough man hours, expertise, material or labor costs, to justify that other than “because I said so”.
@CloudEpik i do jewelry mainly silversmithing and abit of bronze and gold most pricing iv seen done by most people is cost of materials rarity of the materals then the basics of delivery and how long it will take to make obviously its abit different with silversmithing cus you do it with hand tools so it takes longer then say a lathe but unless your business and brand are well known not many people include their expertise in the price unless their doing very well in terms of demand like with adair they went from one guy to a whole business and they do reasonably good quality rings iv had 4 and only one has any damage after years of wearing it while im doing things realisticly your right on the price people will pay like i think it mainly comes down to not many people do rings like this that are good quality especially with such diverse materials like a ring with 3 different stone types in and bronze gold together these rings are like a balance between plain functional rings and the crazy rings people have with 200 diamonds in that can transform shape its the sort of middle ground plus not many people do affordable jewelry these days with good materials
I’m not going to bother breaking it down but you are way off lol. You don’t even have half the costs that need to added there like lathe costs, warehouse rent, power, water. Plus paying my 20+ employees and the other owners and investors. Marketing and ad cost to sell the rings. And that’s only a few. And plus on top of this I can sell my rings for whatever price I see fit. If people are willing to buy the ring then I don’t see the issue. Just like any other fashion brand out there. You think it cost Gucci or Versace 2k to make a tshirt? No. It’s just what they think it’s worth is what it goes for.
@@PatrickAdairDesigns i can see power and water along with lathe costs building up quick and believe the price should be what the person paying believes the ring is worth and that the person who made the ring should make a profit for their hard work iv only made very simple rings and they took a whole day each and while that was down to abit of engraving it was a simple ring so can't imagine how busy you guys get making multiple multi piece rings like the one's i got have lasted ages and i accidently dropped one while working and it diden't even scratch leave a scratch and when i dropped it went into my sander so ye
i think your lots rings are well worth the price if they can survive my busted sander
And just like lord sathriel said we have a ton of demand for our rings. we are 8-12 weeks out because we have so many orders and each ring is handmade just like the video not on some cnc lathe like a lot of companies. so yes that is another reason the price is high.
How much
hey why dont you use a vacuum cleaner on the other side of the lathe so the dust is sucked through the inside of the lathe whilest cutting and sanding.
We just need to get an air filtration system that will do that as well. Still working up to getting some of this stuff in our film studio!
Is this artificial opal? Ive never seen a piece so big and perfect
Do you really need a diamon drill to cut through synthetic opal? i thought it was just plastic
It's 80% silica and 20% resin. Hardness is about 4 so you could cut it with steel but diamond just makes everything easier and last longer.
@@archierobinson8674 Makes a lot more sense thanks
10:57 absolutely incredible scratch 😅
It cracked at the very end:( we fixed it afterwords but yeah it was big tragic
It would be so awesome if you guys responded to some of the questions here.
Mixing the epoxy 3 times as long as you think you need, and 30 times as much.
Love you’re designs but unfortunately out of my responsible budget for the time being. I LOVE opal and your rings literally dropped my jaw! You are a true artist! I really hope to own one of your pieces of art someday!
Need to Create a new name for the Boring Bar coz to Me its the most Interesting Bit 😁😁 Little Play on words but Id love to do this. Hopefully in a Weeks time i will have My Carbon Rod coming to make a Truely Hand Crafted Ring. I have ZERO Power Tools
You can reuse that opal dust too !
Only from the original hole saws. Everything else will be contaminated by sandpaper abrasive or bits of gold and CF.
It might be worth collecting the chips for the gold though if they make a lot of these.
Was that real opal, if so that large piece would be worth so much before cutting it!
Its white Bello, which is a synthetic man made kind of opal.
Beautiful ring, though I would be nervous spending so much money on a synthetic opal ring where the opal can break.
How much was this opals worth ?
It's synthetic, so probably less than $15
Synthetic opals come in slabs which are generally about £120 for 80g
You must hate your lathed. all that abrasive dust over the ways. eek! love the ring tho.
Can you make a ring out of Marble
They actually made one out of cf, pink gold and green marble! I wear it every day, it's a beautiful piece of jewelery
We are doing rnd right now with some marble products so hopefully soon!
@@PatrickAdairDesigns Cool 😎👍
The opal looked like it cracked in the setting 😮
Hii
so wanna use real Australian opal next time? c:
We would love too! if we could find big and solid enough pieces that we could make our rings with but it’s hard to find biggish pieces that look nice for a fair price. The stuff we would need are selling for 10k+ and would over price our rings more than they already are.
9:18 that’s one way to lose a finger
I thought your supposed to not wear gloves with spinning tools such as lathes or drills since they can get caught?
Well they are really tight fitting gloves and can break really easily so it’s ight
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You could at least tell people its synthetic opal not there is anything wrong with synthetics i just believe in informing your customers. Not everyone knows what real opal looks like.
I agree. It’s clearly synthetic material to me (a qualified gemmologist) but to an untrained eye it looks convincing as the genuine article. Beautiful but nevertheless significantly less valuable.
I agree but it doesn’t even look natural because if the regular lines of colour.
You have to be aware the pad use synthetic materials in a lot of there rings, they almost never talk about it
$1400…ouch.
Where is Patrick himself?? Did he sold his company to this guy or what
Nope! Tyler is just a second host we are using now and his videos will be more simple designs so there will be a lot more of them. Patrick was actually on the video just before this one!
Make sure you're wearing a face mask when cutting materials with silica in them ( like opal ).
Synthetic Opal ? Why
Because a piece of real opal that size would be a small fortune
is been too long since the last video ive already gone through all your old vids
у меня одного яйца поджало когда он в резиновых перчатках на токарном начал шлифовать деталь наждачкой ? Это на сколько надо боятся вымазать руки или так заботится о коже не руках что рискуя пальцами работать в перчатках.
I get why you wear gloves, when sanding CF. But just dont do it on a lathe
They use gloves that will easily rip on the lathe if they get caught for safety reasons, they’ve mentioned that in other videos
@@maizymeredith9851 good to hear!
@@maizymeredith9851 Those ones won't rip that easily
They rip if you barely pull on them my guy lol
@@PatrickAdairDesigns I've used some that do and some that don't. Those ones looked somewhere in between
That in my book is not Opal
Genuine opal cannot be worked in this way. Whilst it looks nice this is laboratory opal. A piece of genuine opal the size you started with would be in excess of $200,000 to buy. and would shatter under a cutting press.
You seem to handle the carbon quite careless. The dust is a strong carcinogenic.
whys the quality so bad?
Not sure tbh. Just compressed video then compressed by CZcams again so by the time you see it’s not fantastic
@@PatrickAdairDesigns damn dude, the video seemed really interesting but i couldnt watched it with that quality. anyways i bet u do some amazing stuff and i appreciate that u replied so fast
Synthetic opal, not opal. Its like saying a facetted quartz stone is a diamond. Cool ring design and video though
maby you shuld mention that thats not real opal??
so much wasted synthetic opal, rip. might wanna use drill bits that are closer together next time so theres not so much waste or hassle grinding down. very nice concept tho was nice to see.
So muuuuch opal wasted!
More opal was wasted than used on the finished ring
Lol ya, not real opal tho
Do not ever use gloves when work with spinning parts!!!
Never wear vinyl gloves. Nitril glove with tear easily, whereas vinyl will not.
Why? Why? Why did you not use water to prevent all that opal dust from flying into the air when you were turning it on the lathe? I hope you have a great air filter and nothing went into your lungs!!!
Hee don`t need such dumb thing like fingers or lungs. Content!
Exactly this guy gets it
What's making me kinda angry is that it's definitly not a real opal, and it said NOWHERE it's a fake opal. I don't mind using fake stones for jewellery, some of them are really similar and gorgeous but man.... You got to be honest with you customers.
Look on our website it legit says it In the first sentence in the details. We’ve gone over bello opal before on our channel and don’t feel the need to say the same shit in every single video.
@@PatrickAdairDesigns Sorry but, not saying CLEARLY that it's a synthetic one it's a bit shady to me. And on your website it said "CONTAINS solid bello opal [...]" and not "Made with synthetic Bello opal" wich can be more honest to me. Again, I don't think it's wrong to use synthetic stones, just say it clearly dude. Don't say use sentenced that said it's a fake one without really telling it.
Sorry I didn't take my whole day to check out your entire channel videos before posting (again, whith clear declaration of the use of synthetic ones, we wouldn't have this conversation in the first place).
And no, don't worries, I stumbled on this videos because "Opal" was on the title, and I won't stalk your channel for saying how crapy your customers transparency is on every single videos !
Bello opal is literally synthetic opal….that is the name for it. saying synthetic bello opal doesn’t make sense. you could have simply taken 10 seconds to google search that
Very cool but should be advertised as man made opal.
This type of “opal” is just a shade of the real thing
Why tha hell would anyone want carbon fiber in a gold ring? Carbon? Really? Pretty sure a diamond is the only carbon people are interested in.
I'm curious is that real opal or some labe made stuff the reason I ask is due to the long strips of color I've never seen chunks of opal that large and with color strips in it like that but after watching a video of some that was lab made those color strips are almost identical
Yes it is lab opal
That's a really big piece of opal. It seems fake. Becut that flat that big no dark pockets. If it was real it would cost millions
The algorithm seems to punish you for no reason it's unfair and dumb.
Its not even real opal