BUCK HAS LEG MITES!!! // Dealing with Leg Mites in Draft Horses!!
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Today we are dealing with leg mites that Buck is having issues with. After years of Buck and my other horses having leg mites, I finally found a solution that has worked well for me, so I will share how I deal with leg mites in my draft horses!
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Jim I would rinse those sheers with alcohol after trimming Buck so you dont transfer the bites to your other horse's or back to Buck.
Hello Jim,
My solution might seem unusual at first, but often the simpler things work best..
To cure parasites on my animals (even on trees and plants in my garden) I always use a garlic brew and it has never let me down...
To do so I proceed this way:
I boil for about 30 minutes a nice bunch of crunched garlic cloves in a gallon of water (depending on how much solution is needed) , let it set overnight, remove the garlic chunks and spay the water twice a day directly where needed for 2-3 days in a row.
Again, I know that this seems too simple to be effective but in my experience it has always worked..
Garlic is an extremely effective natural antibiotic and repellent.
In my opinion what nature offers us is often better than pharmaceutical medicine..
Nature has it all...
I think that such a simple solution is worth a try. For sure it won't hurt.
Hoping this can be of help.
Congratulations for your gorgeous horses and you wonderful farm.
Thanks for the suggestion! Natural remedies are very often the best and least toxic
I am a strong believer in garlic also. It's a powerful autoimmune system booster internally as well. Do you think putting garlic in the horse's feed will help them deal with parasite problems in general?
In this case, an even simpler treatment, IMHO,would be to just rub the garlic on the affected areas of the feet. A lot cheaper too. (It'd probably sting a little at first)
Some garlic's are toxic to animals so be careful if you go that route 😁
My part Clydesdale and part Belgian has a lot of feathers and 2 years ago he really suffered from leg mites. I am a “newbie” with horses and you certainly have WAY more experience than me, but the people we purchased our horse from gave us mineral oil and sulphur and advised me to make a paste and work it deeply into the feathers. It did seem to help. Over time, it has gone away. I’m just throwing this out with the hopes that someone else may comment on this old time remedy. Good luck.
We use same remedy with our shires with vegetable oil sulphur and garlic. MItes die in 2 days max and takes more than a year to come back. It just sucks to stain the huge white paws but better that than a stressed hoss
Buck is such a fantastic horse, he’s so easy to work with.
Yes, he's a good old boy
This is why you really have to watch what and how much you give them. It's the same with us as humans.
There used to be a "suave" you could spread on their legs. Mites thrive in "dust" and their skin along with ours has the perfect environment to live in, it's the same with their stalls. Smart thing to do is, put a sealer on your stalls, seal the wood, smother the mites that may be in the wood.
If you paid attention to his hind feet, Buck know's you're trying to help him. Again, spray seal their stalls. Hopefully, you get rid of them for good this time. Cheers :)
I feel lucky, I never had a problem with leg mites or any other itches on the legs of my horses of different breeds in all that time - almost 59 years now. Maybe I should go and buy a lottery ticket! But you are doing the right thing.
Glad you haven't had to deal with it!
If you run into problems with pesticide resistance due to repeated use I suggest spreading vegetable oil so as to suffocate the mites.
Just fill a squirt bottle with liquid corn oil and saturate mid leg all the way down.
Second I'd paint lower half of stalls inexpensive paint, whitewash or ol'd fryer grease.
Suffocate the mites to death rather than trying to poison them to death.
Thanks for the suggestions
Ivermec works well for mites or mange mites. The Ivermec stops the growth of mites. You may have them in your barn or in your dirt or both. I have used Ivermec for years in hogs and cattle. Great stuff for parasites. Best wishes on getting rid of the mites.
My daughter bought a horse for my granddaughter in Oregon last year. We live in Northern California, and after he came home he broke out in weepy bumps all over. They took him to the vet and he diagnosed "oak mites." They got medicine and it worked. I guess he had never been around oak trees. In talking to their neighbor, their horse was from Oregon also and suffered the same thing. Their horse eventually got over them. We had to treat our horse one more time and we hope that he will acclimate to our area. In all my years, I never encountered this! I'm sorry you're dealing with this. I could tell Buck was uncomfortable. Darned bugs!
It’s wonderful how much you care for your horses , an take GOOD CARE of there health.
Oh my, that poor horse. He really seemed to tolerate the clipping and treatment better than I thought he might. Curious how soon you see positive results from the treatment. Good luck Jim(and Buck)! Hoping he experiences a quick recovery.
One thing i can say jim you care a lot for your horses
First thing I noticed when the video started did you break the edges on the stall posts? It previously looked like splinter heaven. Great to see how you care for your horses, especially when they are having a problem. Bless one and all this new year, stay safe.
Thanks and you too!
Clean the clippers really well between horses and repeat treatment in a week to break up the parasite life c
The clipped hair should be removed and destroyed. The chorioptic mange mite can survive in the environment for at least 2-3 months.
My dad was a big believer in Cole oil he would use it for every thing from starting a fire in the stove to wipein it on his horses legs and iam sure he learned it from his father and that was a hundred years ago,
I always thought it was "coal oil". We just called it kerosene. Still remember the house we lived in when I was in second grade (70 years ago!), Mom had a kerosene cook stove! When I had coughing colds, she would give me a spoonful of sugar with a few drops of kerosene in it! The spoonful of sugar help the "medicine" go down.😜 Of course, she wouldn't let me play with matches for several days... 🙄😳
I believe you are referring to COAL Oil or Kerosene. Still use it around here a lot.
@@arkiefyler yep we are talking about the same stuff, I just think it determines what part of the country you are from on witch it was called . it was kinda the cure or kill ya and yes I had my share of it to. 😏
@@arkiefyler hahaha
Omg Jim trimming the hair like that and he doesn't spook ! He knows your trying to help him !
He's a good horse
Jim it maybe helpful to put diatomaceous powder on your floor and a bit less sawdust. That powder helps to kill mites and eggs on the floor.
that what I was thinking
Thanks for the suggestion
So appreciate your education sessions and your love for these wonderful horses
Thanks for watching!
I had a real nice Percheron gelding with scratches. Horrible thing for the horse and not much fun for the owner. I kinda wish it had been mites as scratches are a bear to deal with. Hope you get this solved Jim!
Thanks
Dealing with leg mites is a daunting issue. If you google search you'll find a lot of information. Shamppoing before you put on any meds will improve your chance of getting rd on the mites. I've been there.
Thanks for sharing. They sure are annoying!
You could try food grade diatomaceous earth, its also a good dewormer for cats & dogs sometimes I'll put a pinch in my food its supposed to be good for your G.I. track.
Wow, that was a new one on me. I've been around horses for decades, and never encountered this. That might explain why the one farm I worked on had such problems with scratches, although their vet never said anything about it. Injectable Ivermectin used to be used for skin parasites, when it first came out. When it first came out, there were horses that had skin sloughing off from the number of skin parasites it was killing. I think that was one of the issues, besides the tetanus problems, that caused them to delist the injectable for horses. I'm going on forty year old memories, but I believe that was one of the issues.
Glad to hear you never had any problems with it!
jim may i say to you l,always learn something new watching your videos. i never heard of leg mites. i hope very much that buck will be all right i,love horses as much as you do , thank you very much , you never bore me never. jim dartmouth nova scotia canada.
Thanks for watching! Glad you weren't bored!!
Hopefully buck got a treat once you were done. He was such a good boy for you clipping and treating his legs!! Hope the treatment works so buck can be more comfortable.
Yes, hope so. Thanks for watching
He lifted up his one foot Good Boy Buck😃
He is a pretty good old boy
@@WorkingHorsesWithJim he is
Good evening Jim,this is a very very useful video for people with horses that do suffer from these mites....very informative indeed thankyou...and lm sure a lot of people will be thanking you as well 👏👏👏 and save a lot of money thanks to you.You could see quite clear how irritating this was for Buck,l personally have not come across this problem with my horses....BUT l have on occasions seen horses stamping their hind feet like crazy.All the very best dear friend and regards to Brenda and family 🌱🌱🌱💕🇬🇧
Hi Joyce, glad you haven't had to deal with it personally with your horses!
Poor Buck.. I know how much just one mosquito bite itches imagine mites! Hopefully he will be at ease soon and hope the other horses won't get mites.
Yes, they are very irritating
Hi from Germany, my grandfather used to treat his Belgians with a special liquid called GRINDOSAN. IT LOOKS LIKE A KIND OF OIL ALMOST LIKE WATER. IT WORKED PERFECTLY. I STILL USE IT ON MY SADDLEHORSES if they sometimes have mites,its perfekt. I'm always happy watching your videos, great work!
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that info
Belgians also have problems with mites. I had to put the two horses to sleep. It was so bad that the legs were twice as thick with skin folds over the hooves. Tried everything but nothing helped. The farmers at sea regularly let the horses walk through the salt water. They are not bothered by anything. They found out a long time ago when she used the horses to fish for shrimp.
I've seen video's of those horses going into the sea and pulling those shrimp nets...Pretty amazing. Sorry about your horses.
Sorry for your loss, that's too bad. Interesting about that salt water, makes sense!
Does it dawn on you that the SAW DUST is what keeps bringing in the Leg Mites? Mites can live in the bedding (sawdust & shavings) Plus clean ALL your tools and anything that touches that horse or it's stall in anyway. Wheel barrels, shovels, rakes.
Not only that, so will hay and grass. Had that issue with my cavies and rabbits, due to the hay mites in hay from the store.
Thanks for the suggestion
That liquid looks thin enough to spray on with a small pressure pump (eg. garden sprayer) with its nozzle opened sufficiently to allow a stream to flow through. Accurate placement, minimal waste.
Probably not an option for you Jim, but perhaps for others, one of my mentors used to take her horses into the sea and halt them almost hock deep for several minutes to let the salt water penetrate the horse hair coating of the lower legs. She claimed the once a week or more treatment either prevented or eased the mite irritation factor. The horses seemed actually to enjoy it!
I always learn something from your videos. It was amazing how good Buck was, even when his sores were touched. Bless his heart!
I use the cattle pour on ivermectin. J don't shave any feathers. I put it in a spray bottle and hit them with it periodically. I've not had any problems ever since.
Diatomaceous earth causes insects to dry out and die by absorbing the oils and fats from the cuticle of the insect's exoskeleton. Its sharp edges are abrasive, speeding up the process. It remains effective as long as it is kept dry and undisturbed...Hi Jim I copied this..it is old as the hills and believe me it works!! rub the powder around the hair line.amazing and cost is cheap!!
Also it is 100% NATURAL and non toxic if licked..we got ours at the feed store..
@@susanbambridge1076 food grade only
Thanks for the suggestion! May have to give it a try, have heard it works great on gardn pests too
It works well for mites on chickens. DE.
Poor Buck, I can see how much they mean to you Jim , its just like one of your kids getting sick, you just want to help them as much as you can. Take care Buck and Jim.
Thanks Timothy
Several yeads back I got a mare from a throughbred sale and she kept shaking her head and rubbing her head against the side of the stall. She had ear mites. I took the ivermetrin paste wormer and rubbed it inside the ears and it worked beautifully.
Hi
I never heard of horseleg mites mine have had scratches. You can always learn something new about horses. Hope it works for Buck sound lime they are nasty little things.❤🙏👍
I have never heard of this. Didn’t realize horse’s could get mites. Wow learned something new. Poor Buck. ❤️🇺🇸
Buck seems like he knows relief was on the way, once you started clipping and pouring meds. Good boy! I miss being around horses, especially the big ones. They were always so sweet.
He was a good sport. Hope you can be around them again
never heard of lag mites so i did learn some thing
It is good to see how good you treat your horses .
It's not boaring like to see your every day work.
ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR VIDEOS THANKS FOR SHARING
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!
Hygiene and preventing reinfection are really important. Sweep off that stall before clipping. Put down a polythene or plastic sheet before putting your horse in the stall. Transfer the clippings into a paper bag and burn. Wipe down the sheet when finished with your cow dewormer and dispose of the sheet ethically.
Thanks Jim I had no idea of horse mites. Thanks and please updates us.
Your wormer does work, we had Belgians that would get them n wormer worked well, but we would use liquid 7 garden spray in their stalls, it dry’s quickly n real cut out our Mite issue on our horses !!
Jim you have never bored me yet! I enjoy watching you and your Dear Wife and precious girls. Always a good blog!
Thanks James!
Good to know! Thanks for sharing your experience. I wonder if the Amish nieghbors have ideas or methods?
Thanks for watching, we will have to ask
Nice to see that you are right on top of the problem. Good luck.
Thanks
Thanks for the info 👍 and I'm sure BUCK will thank-you for it shortly 😀
Hope so, hope it works as good as last time!
Any mite/tick is highly sensitive to permethrin (which is safe for animals-even birds). Spot on and spray treatments work to treat the loafing areas. Also all I needed for my finely feathered Clydesdale gelding. My heavily feathered Clydesdale mare, however, was very difficult to treat. I avoid clipping as the feathers are good for other reasons (and protect from future infestations when regularly sprayed). For my mare, I used a permethrin tick shampoo. I made sure to soap from hoof to hock/knee, letting sit a couple minutes before rinsing. Fixed it immediately.
Great tutorial Jim. I'm sure you're experience and what you did for Buck today will help someone else that might have the same problem. (No Pun intended) Another view had a good idea . did you ever ask the Amish Neighbors if they had the same problem and their solutions? lets face it they have been working and living with horses a long time also. As have you. Asking questions in my mind is alway the right way to get answers . be they right or wrong at least it gives you insight to various solutions. Thanks so much for sharing. ECF
Haha, no but it might not be a bad idea(no pun intended😉)
Hi Jim have you every tried using a spray bottle to put the med on his foot that might give you a more evenly coverage just a thought and it might save on the meds so sorry for him that inching must be bad
Thanks for the suggestion
Hello Jim think your qualifications are worthy, experience is knowledge thanks for sharing I'm learning thankyou again. Have a great day.
Thanks, you too!
Aww poor Bill ☹️ Hope he's feeling better soon and the other horses don't get them. Boo to leg mites! Yay to Working Horses with Jim 💕🐎
Thank you!!!
Hey Jim that was really interesting about the hoof mites, like mites. We had horses as a kid but the more I watch your videos, the more I realize how much I have forgotten. Very interesting video thank you
Repeat once or twice at 7-10 days to break the parasite life cycle.
I pray that you can get this figured out Jim. Now I am itching all over!!! (Ha!Ha!)
Thanks, 😅
So glad the medicine doesn’t sting when applied. The liquid probably cools the itching. Poor thing!
Very informative video. Your experience with this is a great teacher, books are a resource!
Thanks for watching
During my years of Show Jumping with Thoroughbreds, we would encounter bot fly eggs, leg mites and other maladies associated with parasites. You can cure bot eggs simply with a bot scraper which removes the small yellow eggs on the horses chest before they have a chance to chew at their chest hair, resulting in the bot eggs hatching in the digestive tract. Quite by accident, we cured leg mites from the use of 90% alcohol as a leg bracer to relieve tendon stress in the cannon area. We braced and rubbed the tendon area with the alcohol from the knee down to the coronet band. I'm not a chemist, but it appears the mites don't like the fragrance or possibly they don't like the immediate temperature change induced by the rapid evaporation of the alcohol. Regardless, the problem went away quickly. As you mentioned, the close cut of hair on the Thoroughbreds likely had an effect as well. One other item that we felt had an effect was the application of used motor oil on the outer wall of the hooves and coronet band. Applying "used" motor oil eliminated any effect from detergent since any detergent residue had long burned off from engine heat and agitation. It was a lot cheaper than hoof dressing and worked just as well at keeping the hoof pliable. It worked for me ... that's all I can say.
Hi, thanks for sharing all these solutions!
THANK YOU! I m having problems with my black and white draft with bad mites on legs ,between hind legs and on abdomin,, have tried other yhings ,, and medicated shampoo ,I ve had cows in the past... I know and used the pour on , It worked! I ll try it on the horse like you showed thank you any.
bonjour Jim... your videos never fail. drinking hot coffee, watching the video. it's 06h 30, here in the north of France and what a way to start my day. so why am i scratching my ankles ?
Bonjour, haha, thanks for watching
You are a good person for figuring out what is wrong and doing something to remedy the situation. We have this with our goats (different mite but same problem) from time to time and some are more susceptible than others. I believe that all of your horses have it but Buck is the "lucky" one who is allergic to the mite saliva or dung. We also treat with a pour on every fall but are concerned that this will lead to drug resistance sooner rather than later. Also available at Jeffers is a sulfur ointment called Pierce's All Purpose Newstock. Once the ivermectin treatment has been done twice I would recommend using the ointment as needed. it is soothing to the skin and it will keep the mites in check when there are small numbers of them. (some people and animals can be allergic to the sulfur....you won't know until you try.)
Thanks for the suggestion! May have to try that!
Great video Jim
Thanks 👍
Jim, have you tried wetting and soaping below the knees and hocks before applying the liquid treatment? I think the sweet spot is called coronary band.
Thank you for sharing.🐴🐴
Well that is very interesting I didn't know anything about that mites. So I did learn something thank you jim.
I've had my clydesdale for about 6 months and she started stomping. I'm going to go try this. Thank you.
I think you show the real complexity of having horses what q good boy the trust they have with you Jim is beautiful to watch. Hope he gets well soon 3 years must have been so frustrating
Clean the whole stable. Steam clean and replace all the bedding.
Well, that’s a new one for me! I don’t have draft horses so maybe that is why. Thanks for the education.
Happy to help!
Thanks Jim. It makes me itch just thinking about It. That ivermectin is a magic treatment.
Food for thought, put medication in hand held garden sprayer. it might provide more complete penetration and coverage.?
I use a mix of vegetable oil sulphur and garlic. We dont even clip the feathering, and that says a lot since shires are super feathery. It smells , it stains but it kills the mite in a few days with instant relief after application.
I got to say you percheron are opposite reaction to my shire. Mine WANTS me to touch and scratch them so she stop stomping and enjoys the attention lol
Thanks for shsring
What kind of sulfur do u buy?
@@glendahood1561 99.9% powder sulphur in a 50lbs bag
Hey there can you tell me the ratio you use to mix it I have a mare with it and would like to try this first
@@kerroberthockeydraft I use a 1 liter condiment (ketchup or else bottle) I put about 1 cm of sulphur at the bottom and fill the rest with mineral oil. It will separate so always shake when not applying. A few drops of tea tree oil 2-5 at most. Switch tea tree oil for garlic if your mare is with foal just to be safe as excess tea tree oil can cause miscarriage.
I worked with horses for many years and never encountered leg mites (thankfully).Are the draft breeds more susceptible? I worked with Arabians and Hanoverian horses, not big draft ones. Thanks for your informative videos. Hope Buck gets rid of them quickly!
Not sure who is more susceptible, just they are very annoying! Thanks for watching
Hey there Jim, I hope you're all well and good!
There are several different kinds of mites that can infect horses, cows, pigs, and sheep, and cause mange.
They are typically introduced to a horse in straw and hay, where they would've been in the grass when it was harvested.
The microscopic mites are related to ticks, and are somewhat like what we humans sometimes call "bed bugs" in that they both like feeding on dead skin cells. A good shampooing with a medicated shampoo like Head and Shoulders on a regular basis both helps in the treatment and prevention of the tiny parasites.
These mites can be transferred to basically any living host, including humans, so you should make a point to practice good hygiene when dealing with these tiny parasites.
I hope you have a good one! 🐎👍🇺🇸
Actually bed bugs are technically an insect, while mites are an arachnid. They both need a blood meal in order to reproduce. I've dealt with red fowl mites for years and they are a real pain- and yes, I've found them crawling on me, too. I'll be interested to see if any of the suggested treatments work for Jim's horses. I'm willing to try them on my chickens.
@@stevengyorfi4375
I didn't list the "taxonomy" classification for either one of them, I stated that mites are related to ticks, which they are, and that they were somewhat similar to bedbugs, as per their fondness of feeding on dead skin cells.
I agree that Jim generally does a great job, but the question of hygiene does raise an issue: the clippers should be disinfected between feet, as well as before they're used another time on another horse. The clippings should be swept up and burnt otherwise the mites and any eggs are left in the barn to find another host. But, especially, if one leg is infected and another not, by using the clippers as he did, he's transferring some mites and eggs to maybe an uninfected foot. And please stop using dull clippers!
Hope your horse mites are OK its nice to have concerned parents good job Jim God bless
Buck seems to be doing better, thanks
A first for hearing of this for us.Ear mites, particularly on cats.Yes.
Thank you Jim . Do not sell yourself short ,you have been there did it . the watchers that tell you how to do it and do not have first hand knowledge, do not pay to much attention to them .Julien Lamarche
In Canada I know of it as the Clyde itch my percheron had it and my father-in-law at the time said use used motor oil didn't bellive it at the time but tried it and wow cleared it up and haven't seen them since. That had to be 7 years ago.
Thanks. I think my horse just had a case of those mites. Started off looking like small mud balls stuck on bottom of legs but when I went to take it off, they would bleed so I knew it was something more so I washed her legs off with it and a septic shampooer. Then I applied topcoat, which looks like mud and dries like it. So far so good but if it comes back, I’m going to try your method.
Have used sulpher and mineral oil mixed also . But then started using the ivermectin for cattle huge difference.All I do is pour a little on where there is a small problem starting Like a little crusty spot. Also if you keep the feathers wet with either mineral or or corn oil etc works amazing mites don’t like a oily environment and will keep them away .
We have clydes and lots of people will say oh clydes always have a problem but all breeds can have it.
For any kinda mites we would use garden Sulphur powder and vegetable oil mixed up together and apply with kitchen scrub brush and really scrub it in. SEVIN dust is a pest powder that I us for tick and fleas for regular on my house pets. I just put it In 2 knee high nylon stockings and then I just pat and rub it into their skin, it works like an old fashioned flea powder. You can also sprinkle Sevin Dust in their stalls weekly for several weeks for the eggs. You can also sprinkle salt around too( small parasites don't like too much salt ). They also don't like diatomaceous earth, mix some with salt and sevin. Most of this stuff can be found at garden or hardware stores.
Try diotamashous earth or DE
Thanks for the suggestion
I love your wonderful stories Jim. Thank you xx
I like the look of the trimmed up lower leg. Just my opinion.
thank you it is very appreciated.
May I recommend calling Oklahoma State University
school of Veterinary science.....Oklahoma is a horse concentrated area, working, racing, cattle horses.........
We used a number of oil treatments for our stock. The oil smothers the mites, repeat as needed for egg hatching (although oil often suffocated the eggs and larva too). Worked well for us. Good luck!
Thanks for sharing
My Dad use to put old motor oil.
Jim cedar wood in the stalls would help, mites hate cedar. Ivermectin is the best defense you can use. Chickens will carry mites also. I raised fowl for years, I always used cedar or sassafras roost poles. If I had horses I would definitely use cedar boards in the stalls.
Good luck Mr. Jim. great to know what could work
Get one of those cheap spray bottles from the dollar store mark it horse mite leg spray and POISON with black sharpy. That would work good and maybe not waste so much.
Jim, how would a baster work for applying the mite killer? Pilfer one from Brenda's kitchen and give it a try. We won't tell her.
It might work good. Better tell her though😀
Try some Vircon around the floor and wood surfaces. Works good for a lot of those kinds of bug.
Thanks for the suggestion
Thanks Jim,very informative,did you clear the hair shavings and destroy it,could still contain mites
Should know shortly
I'll try this, my horse has had problems for years, I just hope I can get that cattle wormer in UK
Interesting. I live in Washington state on the coast. We don’t seem to have much of a problem with parasites. I have neighbors who worm regularly, just because, and I have wormed a horse but quit after awhile and he never seemed to need it. My horse shared a pasture with a couple of cows who never had a problem. Mites seem like a thing that would live everywhere. I wonder what the difference is?
Who would of thunk it! Jim, I think that you should have worn a helmet for protection just in case!
Dectomax (Doromectin), 2 injections 14 days apart worked really well on our Shire mare. Best of luck, not sure if it is available in the USA.
Thanks for the suggestion
I certainly hope it works as well as for you as it did last time. I'm sure Buck knows you are trying to help him and not hurt him.