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Jordan Peterson VS Cathy Newman Debate
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How To Shut Down Conversational Bullies
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Have you seen the Jordan Peterson and Cathy Newman debate?
See for yourself how he deals with it and give us your opinion in the comments!
We've all found ourselves in conversation and felt attacked like we started off talking about one thing and then the other person twisted our words and before we knew it, we lost our cool, lost respect in their eyes, and maybe even acted like a jerk. Now, I don't normally do the same person twice in a row but this interview between Cathy Newman and Jordan Peterson was just too interesting of an opportunity to discuss how you can handle someone who uses subtle conversational tricks to bully you into looking dumb. So in this video, you're gonna see firsthand some of the most common tricks that people might be using on you and you're also gonna learn how to reverse those so that you can walk out of a kind of aggressive situation having earned more respect than you had going in.
So first off, to stop a conversational bully, you have to realize what's going on before it's too late. Now, typically, a person will reveal their aggressive attitude early on with their tone of voice and their word choice. Check out the rest that we will show in this video and how Jordan Peterson tackles them.
1:49 Jordan Peterson deals with so-you're-saying trap
2:39 Jordan Peterson deals with the "assuming the sale"
5:30 Jordan Peterson deals with the smash technique
7:08 But don't straw man the other person's ideas though
7:47 And visual imagery can also help
8:25 You can show them that they're already agreeing with you
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Jordan Peterson: “I’m an analyst and therapist.”
Cathy Newman: “so what you’re saying is you’re an Analrapist?”
Edit: I no longer care for Jordan Peterson.
Stop stealing comments
Brilliant! 🤣🤣👑
Alek Blaylock 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruh 😂😂😂
@@Afs-g1clor cuz it's exactly same comment from original video
Peterson: “What a clear, sunny day.”
Newman: “So you’re saying clouds have no right to be here?”
she was just trying to make sure she understands whats hes implying, because Peterson's arguements most of the time werent consistent enough to serve the premise
hahahahahaahaha the best comment ever ...she is insane
@@roye6961 I can't tell whether or not you're joking.
@@Tobyodd average answer I would expect on this thread
@@roye6961 How about answering then ?
I'm retired now. Workplace cultures can be very argumentative. I stumbled upon a book called The Gentle Art Of Verbal Self Defense. I read it and tried it. It worked so well that I lived by it. When I realized I was mastering the content, my stress level plummeted.
Kudos for your skills!
An excellent book
Who is the author of the book?.
@@saoirseblue5353Suzette Haden Elgin
@@saoirseblue5353Suzette Haden Elgin
I will check this out.
You can't reason with people that hate you.
Jordan: "I like dogs"
Kathy: "So you're saying that you hate cats?"
Every liberal everywhere. Freakin nut cases
Lmfao
Running or Jumping in excitement.
"So you are trying your level best to make the life of the disabled person miserable. Don't you ? "
@@spartan2906 haha on point
@@bgmagma10R We'd need to see substantial evidence for that. Especially when you state "every". Not most, not many, every. Please show the evidence.
"Sure is nice out today."
"So you're denying climate change?"
You know nothing Jon snow.
Lol. The contard fallacy.
Sadia Banu Omg😂👌👏
I dont think I have ever heard of that
TheBattleNetWork It's a joke.
00:47 - Realise whats going on before its too late
1:54 the "so you're saying" trap
2:52 assuming the sale
5:35 Smash technique
7:12 Do not strawman the other persons ideas
7:44 Make sure the other person can understand you after you have understood their viewpoint or idea
8:40 Show them that they are already agreeing with you
10:37 Adress the emotional concern
Classy...
Why
I find these things do not always work. As in my experience even when a person clearly explain themselves the person twisting your words will continue to do so regardless and refuse to acknowledge that they misinterpreted. Many people have had the loss of reputations and jobs because of this sort of thing. It's not so simple as being cunning enough to make them realize their mistake. Some people just won't no matter what you do.
Use the same technique......continue with your opinion until the end, firm.
@@saoirseblue5353 ok but just continuing the same method and arguing your point back and forth, what does that actually accomplish? If the other person refuses to acknowledge than there is no point. It will just go in circles with no end.
"Ha! Gotcha!" was perfect. It brought an air of levity to the stifling moment of Kathy's stuporous stammer. After enduring her hostility throughout the interview, it was fitting for Jordan to gracefully hold her at the tip of his skilful sword.
To her credit, she admitted that he won that party.
Bad idea to play mind games with a psychology professor.
Equally bad to play psychological games with a mind professor.
Like challenging the Flash to a game of tag, lmao.
@@dorianphilotheates3769 Equally bad to mind a psychological play with a game professor
probably not an idea, more of an habit and intuitive behaviours (just learned what's usually effective by intuitive trial and error over years and got into the habit of practicing it)
so it's like trying to make a medical doctor sick?
Jordan Peterson: "I'm hungry."
Kathy Newman: "So what you're saying is... I should make you a sandwich?"
So you're saying she needs to do a show about making sandwiches 🤣
@@alinstancu8091 so your saying women should stay in kitchen and leave other stuff
@@hush7359 no, i'm just saying that they are better at making sandwiches and give birth to babies
She should.
@@alinstancu8091 Lol. Yes we are, there's 7 billion babies and former babies on this planet right now.
Ten years ago, my office area had an older boss who had anger issues and was very manipulative, but on Friday’s he would walk by us and ask why we were still around at 3pm. I think he was aware of his short-comings and he tried to make up for them by letting us go early on Fridays. I read two book by a clinical psychologist that helped me to understand him and he never bothered me again emotionally after I read the book because I learned how to deal with him. The books are called “In Sheep’s Clothing” and “Character Disturbances”, by George Simon. Those books also help me these days with manipulative types, and instead of becoming angry, I deal with them professionally and grounded.
Can you give me some example how you deal with your boss after you read those book? What did he say to you and what did you say back?
@@vincentnnyc After I read the Character Disturbances” book, I began to realize that my boss had some personal issues that had nothing to do with me or my coworkers. They were deep-seated personal issues and that he was short-sighted and lacked good solid reasoning. I had also heard that he drank a lot of booze in the 1970s and was a bit of an alcoholic but had since stopped drinking many years before. I worked with him from 2008 to 2013. If this was true, he had that look on his face in which he just never could handle stress well at all. Once I understood this, he never bothered me again.
This video is totally RUBBISH. It does not tell anyone anything. Designed to get people to look at you big paid "Course". THANK YOU @veltonmeade 1057 for the book suggestions. I have ordered.
I really clapped for Jordan at the end pointing out how Katie has been questioning him, being aggressive, offensive and putting words in his mouth and how that shows her disagreeable position against him and that is exactly freedom of speech which he is all about. Good for Jordan!!! You proved she was doing what she is supposed to be against.
This made me like him more. She was obnoxious. Not the feminist I want representing me.
I walked away from this interview, initially, thinking Jordan Peterson was the bully.
Dr. Peterson is absolutely brilliant!!
CZcams: How to avoid embarassing yourself in an argument
"so you are saying that i embarrass myself in every argument??"
I know that I do
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh powerful one, for whoever understand it
This comment is the winner.
I used too
Nice one
Jordan: breathes
Interviewer: So you're disrespecting dead people
😂😂
This has gone "a bit" to far...
😂 😂 😂 Like seriously
Ha haha hahaha Haa... This comment nearly killed me!
🤣🤣🤣
TOTALLY agree with the relaxed posture. I once asked for a meeting with a priest who attacked me in an email, I don't know who taught him it was okay to address anyone that way, but it was ridiculous. Got to the meeting to find he had planned an attempted "gotcha" for me with the Vicar General and deacon. God bless and help them all. I can't do it naturally, but I was 35 weeks pregnant at the time in a high-risk pregnancy, and the Holy Spirit apparently decided enough was enough - because I spent the entire hour unconcerned, leaning back in my chair, sometimes with my hands behind my head, totally relaxed, even while this dude was *repeatedly jumping out of his chair and yelling at me.* He was absolutely stymied and his "gotcha" failed miserably. Keep your body relaxed. Out of control bullies just don't know what to do with it!
Would you tell us what the meeting was about?
@@eileensullivan549 Thank you for asking, but no. Telling their false accusations only spreads them further. The reason I asked for a meeting? Because when somebody you have to deal with sends an out of control email, you have to get out from behind the computer and make a face-to-face connection. Unbelievable as it might sound, my motive was just Gospel goodwill. By the time I learned I had walked into a malicious setup, the Holy Spirit had already planted himself in front of me; I was completely, totally, and absolutely protected, to the point where I was even relaxed. Praised be Jesus Christ, now and forever! Please pray for that priest and deacon. And thanks for your question, because it's been a while and it was a nudge for me to pray for them today.
@@eileensullivan549 Im wondering too lmao wtf is that setting
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Personally, I really appreciate you for taking the time to analyze a discussion and then pass it on so others might learn something from it. I know I certainly did. I have been a big JP fan for a long time because of his ability to truly listen to what the other person is saying and at the same time, dissecting their words and phrases to spot any sort of attempts to lure him into responding with something he doesn't want to say or something he doesn't agree with. He is truly one of the greatest minds of the modern age.
But he's actually a bully... People think he's right just because he can argue better, whether he's true or not
Peterson: “gotcha”
Newman: “so you’re saying that you now own me.”
😂
He DID own her
@Sirius Stark Al Ghul this comment popped up and before I recognized the thread, my initial thought was "what did I say now?"
Lmaoooo
@Sativa Rommola so what your saying is asia is incapable of engaging in underwater combat
I get so offended easily and I can't handle extreme opinions that are different from me. Although a lot of people don't think that about me - I am very good at avoiding arguments as I hate engaging in them. But I wished I knew of ways where I can truly just stay calm, listen and let it out the other ear, genuinely and not just in appearance. I guess I kind of do, but there are triggers where I really just get pissed off and I can't seem to control/manage my anger. I never realized this about myself until recently. I want to get better.
Wow! I admire how you are evaluating your own ways of communicating and how to improve. I want to do that too. Thank you very much for sharing such a good example.
A lot is about experience. Practice with a friend. Take a 'devil's advocate" position.
Jordan is the man then. Start studying his work… you’ll never be the same again x
Self-awareness is the first step love so well done for noticing and being brave enough to express your "flaws", however you could just accept it of yourself, accepting the dark side of your psyche. Afterall, not one person that has ever lived has been anywhere near a perfect human. Even stoic philosophy has its downsides/detractors. But i will say it might be an idea to look into your childhood/youth to understand why certain topics trigger you and start there. Good luck 😊
I understand and especially internet culture has shown our habit of wanting to be right. But we keep not knowing how to communicate and listen which just does a disservice in grasping ideas.
I notice this in myself too. Especially if I feel like my ego gets in the way.
I feel like visualization a common goal or a win and win situation even if the person is disrespectful cause it’s not about them. It’s about being able to debate and stay on topic. I think we end up creating unconscious strawman when we fixate on beating the other person.
That Gotcha moment was a turning point for so many people.
Whilst you could argue it wasn't the most constructive thing to do, in terms of exposing the combative and self-righteous media for the bullies they've become, or perhaps were all along, it was very much needed.
Of course... we might be living in a very different world if Dr. Peterson had then spent the next 20 minutes winning over Newman. Seeing one of their own turned on such a visible scale might have brought a lot of people back from the barricades.
But then again, maybe it wouldn't have had the exposure it did without the Gotcha moment.
Who knows. Lets go play some games.
The downside to converting a traitor to your team is that now the traitor is on your team.
In the words of TF2: "Spy... is not OUR Spy!"
Jordan: I.....
Cathy: So you're saying you're the only one?
hahaha! That was a good one Alana.
Good one Alana
This. I had witnessed a classmate (who was actually a real b!$%# under the surface, which I clued into long before) go about doing exactly what this woman did to another classmate with whom I was on friendly terms with. This was in college, and the professor for that class had actually gone to the effort to get them to explain to each other clearly exactly what they were saying. Too bad the girl went and spread bull about her behind her back a day later in another class, all because she was an insecure piece of work (I pity her boyfriend, though).
I really hate when people pull stuff like this because they're essentially putting words in your mouth that you didn't say just to get under your skin. It's one of the reasons *why* I absolutely dislike arguing with people, especially if they're never going to admit that they're the ones who are full of it.
we almost have the same name!
😂😂😂😂😂
I love the statement someone made years ago. "People don't want to hear your opinion. They want their opinion to come out of your mouth."
That's basically most humans. Even myself. It's actually a survival technique to respond positively to those who support our ideology, while avoiding those who could present a threat. You might think we'd have moved on after thousands of years...
My tactic is to exaggerate, in a bombastic and exaggerated fashion, in the following way: "Oh my God! That's exactly right, boy you hit the nail right on the head, no doubt about it! It's like you're in my head or something! I mean WOW! You even got all the punctuation down with your inflection, and I have to hand it to you, wow, yup exactly down to the last molecule, a precise word for word rendition of not only what I said but what I meant by it, which by the way is exactly what I said. " Then I sit back beaming smugly at them because I called them a liar in a very sarcastic way. Nobody wants to argue with me anymore after that. Nasty, I know, but it has been several years since I realized there is no way to convert a fanatic so the best you can do is cut the interaction to a minimum and hope they die soon.
@airlockengage agreed.
@@ramoncotta1264 that is radical bro!
@@hees0009 That's just straight up confirmation bias though and doesn't save you at all from the ramifications of the Dunning-Kruger effect. You can be in danger of being manipulated and your confidence exploited before you even know it, you won't see it coming because you were so sure you were right and now you're too embarrassed to be wrong.
not the first time ive seen peeterson handle these tactics, but your slowing it, annotating , and analysing is very edifying. thanks much
Damn, seeing this video makes me feel funny, because I was arguing with someone who just smashes so many things for me to respond, its basically impossible to talk with those people who just want to win over you rather than talk about the actual reason of why things are the way they are... great video overall!
"How to avoid embarrassing yourself".
1) Don't be Cathy Newman
Damn, that's accurate !!
2)Don't speak what the media feeds you
Classic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1) don't be a communist/socialist...
If she was interviewing Kim Jong Un, I'm pretty sure you'd think she is doing a damn good job. In my eyes, she did her work splendidly. In normal conversation however, she'd be a huge red flag giving off narcissistic vibes
Peterson: "Hi"
Interviewer: "So you're assuming I can speak English?"
The north is just lost
Polar bears, seals, ice, water, a pole, it's a MESS
Peterson: I am actually right though.
PenisMcWhirtar How is Autism a sign of being lost?
@*Black *Maple* shutup snowflake
Peterson: ohhh, so you really like Dogs???
Interviewer: oh Yeees.
Peterson: so you agree that the Cats should be all killed?!!!!
All good points. To simplify, don't let a lie pass. Identity it, call it out, counter it.
Another trick I’ve heard people try is to wildly reframe the issue in an attempt to frame out important aspects of the discussion, as if they’re not relevant. My response is, “That question ignores ”
Him saying “gotcha” actually helped her. The awkward silence would have been much much worse for her.
Fact
Agree
But not the right move
Great point
So once again, he was being nice.
He is a clinical psychologist with years of experience dealing with angry, self righteous people like the interviewer.
in otherwords this may have been her show, but it was his episode
@@takaw.d8486 yes, 😂😂😂
Let's add the fact that he have a PHD in Clinical Psychologist, and was a Post Doctoral researcher (in the same matter) for 3 more years, and been the author and co-author of more of 100 academic researches.
@@wasabi.2839 yep all of that up against some angry whining baby that can only say a few words "g-g-gu gu-so youre saying that-"
Oooh that's why he's so good with words, he gets under people's skin with cheap tricks too by begin a psicologist
I love how he was so calm and thinking well before answering. These questions or attaks 😅 would anger anyone with ease. I should master being calm and collected in arguments. It seems to be valuable skill.
Study the art of being stoic. Lots of info on you tube . It’s about standing back and thinking to get the best reply. It’s interesting and covers many things . For instance, in an interview there’s nothing wrong with saying ‘can I think about that and address it later?’
You’d gain respect for using time , thoughts and not rushing to provide a ridiculous reply .
She was clearly predatory and underhanded while he fearlessly and skillfully responded to the verbal fencing match like a pro finally delivering a grand slam victory play. Satisfying karma to watch her left speechless and defeated and worth watching again. Thank you for sharing the valuable demonstration and key narrative.
Peterson: "I like cats".
Interviewer: "so you are saying that we should kill dogs"?
Abyssinia Empire hahahaha yep
Abyssinia Empire politics in a nutshell
If u reversed that I would agree with it.
that sums it up
Bingo!!!
Peterson: Womens individual choices effect how much money they make
Interviewer: So you are saying that you hate women and will actively try to keep them down financially and eliminate women's personal choices...................
Jordan: **inhales in preparation to speak**
Cathy: "SO YOU'RE SAYING..."
and the winner is... :-)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL - This is the best one!!
Level asian
So you think you have more right to breathe oxygen than women
@@fabooshka Why, yes. Yes I do.
The key to being aggressive is appearing passive all the time. Just like telling a lie all the time no one will believe you when you tell the truth. Same with aggression if you're angry all the time people usually know you're a coward that is afraid. That's why the silent ones are the deadliest
If the driving motivation of your dialogue in a given argument or conversation is to seek the objective Truth, then these things come much more naturally. Knowing your values inside and out, as well as knowing the truth you represent fully is vital before any arguing is to occur, if you don't I guess you are more likely to lose an argument against someone who would critique something you believe yet know nothing about. Also, remaining grounded to your beliefs real-time allows you to weave your way out of these situations in which people may try to pin you down, you always have that Home-base which you can return to in order to brush off claims that people may place on you. I personally also think this is a much better way to approach these sort of discussions as I believe people may cling too much onto pre-rehearsed responses and when pinned down by these sorts of people they could get stuck, or say something which doesn't exactly support their point.
I liked it when he said "it was nice talking to you" at the end of the interview. The only untrue thing he said.
Well, it may have been uncomfortable, but for Peterson, that kind of conversation adds to his total understanding of humanity, so he is still glad that it happened.
Should of said nice of you talking at me.
He simply enjoyed toying with her and he let her know. I wish to be at his level. Maybe next life.
I'm with Manticore on this one. The response could have been genuine, cause both of them left with an experience.
I think Cathy got hot for the man
Jesus christ i barely talk properly, now i have to talk like im playing chess...
Lol
😂😂
Four player, three leveled holo star wars chess.
@NO NAME haha no hail satan
Smart comment, made me think of it in another way
Excellent video. Being someone who enjoys "uncomfortable" conversations/debate/discussions with those who don't agree with me, I've found that sometimes it just isn't worth trying to gain someone's respect. I will almost always start off from that basis - respect given will result in respect back - but I've found that with some people it doesn't matter. You can show them areas of agreement all day long, but their emotions will not allow them to recognize it. For as much of a supposedly reason driven world we supposedly inhabit, I have found emotions rule the day far more often than reason does. The phrase, "one cannot argue with emotion" comes to mind in these instances. Jordan's "gotcha" remark conveyed that perfectly. Kathy was EMOTIONALLY attached with her disagreement with Peterson. He disarmed her emotions by using logic to corner those emotions. Once cornered, she's embarrassed and wants to be let off the hook. He didn't do anything wrong by using that technique, because oftentimes when I'm watching him in one of these confrontational interviews, I don't ever see him trying to convince the interviewer. He's using the interviewer to illustrate the emotions behind their arguments to the audience.
That' s really true...
It is very much about not being offended. Stay calm - let the person talk as he or she wants - find out if you want to use time and energy to respond. They will then discover, that they are not that important to you, when they behave like that😘
Peterson: "Is nice to see you"
Interviewer: "So you are saying is ugly to see every other woman?"
CATHY YOUR SAYING ABOUT 50 TIMES
Tbh most woman do this
😂
Lol
I think that's the most telling thing about this 'interview'. Every question she asked of him was just a warped and twisted regurgitation of a valid point he'd made that she simply couldn't accept or understand. It was't so much an interview as a hit piece. You could tell in the way that she shotgunned questions she was reading from her tablet that she didn't care about answers, merely wanted to hurl accusations at him.
Jordan: "YES"
Kathy: "So you're saying NO?"
Jordan: "NO"
Kathy: exactly
Kathy every 10.0 seconds: "So you're saying..."
_Proceeds to say something which he never said._
@@sankalp2520 😂😂😂broo😂
@stefano Greco H. thnx mate😘😂
Laugh really hard with this one 🤣🤣
The "Gotcha" phrase is key to establish dominance and awareness of the situation, to let you interlocutor know that you cannot be fooled or manipulated, you know how to play your cards right!
So i was in court being grilled by the defense attorney, I was the only witness to the crime in question, I kept getting hit with the so you're saying thing repeatedly on stuff thats not true, it was kinda funny because i could almost feel him getting more and more frustrated every time i told him no and reitterated my actual point, these techniques 💯 work
Well done .
Peterson: sips water
Newman: ‘So you’re saying we should let Africa die of thirst?’
This is a bad take.
@@matthewadejumo9397 that's the joke
@@yashim08 he was making a joke as well
LOL
He doesn't fall into the "we as a collective" game. There are plenty of groups and individuals working on behalf of Africa.
The level of patience Peterson has is just out of this world.
Yeah, when i argue with people, Ibget unpatient that they wont realize that they're wrong, or that im right, and they just keep babbling ao that they can somehow make themselves right, or make me wrong
It's just common sence. He knows how visably getting angry makes you look and as psychology professor he knows exactly how anger works.
It really gives you the upper hand if you are laid back and patient when the other person is attacking you. It wrong foots them because they wanted to make you angry and it doesn't work. I had a boss do that when I was representing another worker's interest. I just sat back patiently and let him vent his anger until he ran out of steam. Then I calmly asked him if we could discuss the subject now he had got that off his chest. Needless to say I walked out of that room with everything I went in there to get, and the worker was delighted that I had won for him. If you lose your rag, you are going to lose the argument, and that boss knew that. So did Cathy Newman. If Jordan had lost his rag at any moment she would have made mincemeat out of him.
Yes being a woman myself I have to agree and I also would have to be tied to the chair!
I could not agree more! I so wish I had his level of patience!
watching this made me realize just how futile it is to be an unnecessarily aggressive debater. makes me wanna be more mindful of how i articulate myself in future
I wouldn't say it's futile. In fact, I think being aggressive can be effective. Not necessarily very good, but effective. Especially against someone who isn't as smart as Jordan Peterson. 😂😂
It is necessary to be able to be an agressive debater AND know how to deal with one yourself. Of course there are times you shouldn't be aggressive, but having all the skills under your belt.
I had a head rn who would give me horrendous assignments then keep asking me if I was done
Other rns started jumping in helping out knowing it was impossible to be done on time. Then I realized she just wanted to make me squirm . So I stopped explaining and just agreed with her.
Your absolutely right , I should have had all my am care , categorizations , dressings and leg wraps on three by 10.
She knew I didn't agree with her but by not making groveling or making excuses she had nowhere to go.
She stopped doing it to me and shortly thereafter one of the other rns asked me how I got her to stop
Peterson: *takes a bite out of a sandwich*
Newman: “So you’re saying Hitler should be resurrected?”
*Laughs in sandwich*
That was outstanding. Well done you! 😀
Yes. He should be. Only for the purpose of living alone with Newman on a deserted island. She has worked hard for it.
Uncle: *LUMBAGO*
“So your saying the whole lemoyne chapter Is an unpleasant waste of time”
Oscar Rasmussen 😂😂🤣
Jordan: I haven't had my lunch.
Cathy: So you're saying I should make you a sandwich.
😂
Yes
Hey, this is a copied comment
Paranoia can do that to a person turning every simple sentence into supposed threat 😅
Yes
It's really easy to understand these bully tactics when I already do them myself and it's being defined with such a clarity. Now I know how to respond when I'm exposed to them. Great video💀
If someone is aggressively questioning me or misquoting me I like to question them, e.g. 'what exactly do you think I said?' or 'what do you think I meant by that?' They often don't really know or can't put it into logical words and the attack is defused. A question in return can be the most effective way of responding.
We all know Jordan deserved his "gotcha" moment.
The entire interview was a gotcha moment.
@@philipberggren1823 So what you're saying is, Cathy won the debate?
@Michael Jordan lol I know, my comment is just a meme
@Michael Jordan can be hard to read sarcasm on the internet sometimes 😂
he definitely indulged after considering it a net benefit of breaking the silent tension for her. it was a pretty friendly gesture playing on how trappy her incessant strawmen were.
This lady doesn’t even want him to talk. She just wants to hear her own voice
Exactly
She's no lady...
She is womansplaining xD
In my experience, the people who talk over you refuse to listen because they're terrified of the fact that you may be right and they may be wrong. That terror manifests in frantic anger, which is why ignorant people are so frustrating to talk with.
This video is montaged in a way that makes her seem like a bully (if I had to decide whether she really was or not, I'd say she was), but we lack context. The cuts are way too short.
In the end, kudos to her for actually listening to what he's saying & then acknowledging his accurate point of view.
Most of the time people aren’t even truly telling you what they think. They are telling you someone else’s views and opinions. An they don’t fully understand those views an opinions. So there debate turns into an arguments because it isn’t fact and logic that drive them. It’s there EMOTIONS that guide them.
Peterson: "I think..."
Interviewer: "So you're assuming that I DON'T think?"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ahaahha😂☺️😪🧐😈
this is a good one hahaha
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jordan: I am...
Interviewer: so you think im not?
hahahaha
bruh more like RTX 2080 Ti
Xx
*xd
*Shakespeare is typing...*
I loved that episode ! I get where and what the points are but effectively useing when your caught off guard is insanely hard ! But I personally useing 1-2 things in 1 convo , can alter things alot ! The last 2 weeks I had to listen to and sort out 2 arguements and catch another person at work bending rules that piss everyone off . Being able to repeat thier point , and request more detail before responding changes how people approach you . If they just tossing words at you won't work then they have to prepare thier defense , which can curb the activity . Also repeating thier words back buys you time to find inconsistancey .
My sister used the "so you are saying..." method without the lead up, which did indeed piss me off. I just left though, so she was stuck being mad on her own. I didn't have the ability to salvage that anymore after how quickly she decided I was an enemy. I feel like she genuinely just did the most bad faith interpretation of me not liking something she did and saying so, so hopefully she moved from her usual cluelessness to actually thinking for once. She also did the common putting someone on the spot and demanding examples for a simple statement. Escalation seems to be her talent and it's getting hard to not let it rub off.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Jordan: uh... this conversation is getting annoying
Cathy: So you're saying talking with women is annoying
Yes.... as with all women.
lol
Name one person in this world who wants to talk to her? I bet she got divorced after this interview lol and she should. This woman needs mental help asap
Yes
Jordan declaring, "gotcha" was actually a gracious way of breaking the tension by lightening it up a bit. He could have annihilated her and let her stew in her embarrassment.
Great point. He pulled her out of a hole there i thought.
He actually felt bad about not being able to refrain himself from saying that. He has explained several times that there he lost the opportunity to have an actual intellectual conversation based on that topic. He could have redirected the "debate" to what he pursues, logical expositions. Instead he himself admitted later that he lost his temper there and with it, the gateway to completely change the discussion.
@@Jayako12 i really doubt that this conversation actually could have turned into an honest, intellectual debate. Not under these circumstances. Even if she started to understand and maybe even agree to what he was saying, which to an extent i think she started to do at that very moment, there is no way she would have abandoned her agenda while being on live TV.
In a private conversation? Possibly, but not in this situation.
Agreed. He’s absolutely a gentleman
Excellent point
Top analysis and explication! Thank you!
This is a great video. Thank you for the breakdown of the inserted video.
This felt like a verbal game of chess
NextTimeTech but Cathy's playing with checkers
It’s like a grand master vs a 3 year old
only if the players were magnus carlsen vs a toddler, im not trying to be offensive towards her but thats what it feels like.
it was more like a grandmaster teaching a first timer. "This? This is called a rook"
Cathy is probably pretty good at the verbal "game of chess", Jordan is just that much better. I would say Cathy is like a really good online chess player, thinks she is hot shit, then challenges a grand master.
Yeah, that "gotcha" came off as "don't you feel silly, now." But OH MY GOD did it feel so damn satisfying.
Ben Schrader dude you took the words right out of my mouth
Yup, guilty pleasure.
She really deserved it lol after she kept trying to stab him, that gotcha was all he needed to finish the job. She created it and it backfired. The beauty of it is how much weight that one word had lol
Yeah, it was the one provocative move from his side.
While it does go against his usual approach of not making people look stupid however, I think it was still a bit different:
More along the lines of a teacher teasing "do you see what I mean now?" after the student inadvertently demonstrated the teacher's point.
(For those wondering, it's at 10:00.)
Even tho I liked the 3 seconds she didn't speak, I don't think she was even listening to what he was saying. I think she was listening to her director on the earpiece and waiting for a response.
Very nice. Thank you.
In my experience even when one clarifies themselves the person twisting words will refuse to acknowledge it and continue the accusations out of insecurity! being defensive instead and wanting revenge which could result in the destruction of reputation, jobs, relationships ect. Due to my experiences the first time someone twists my words or gaslights I see them as a threat with the potential to destroy me and they get NO second chances! That's the end of it! Except with my mom and I really got work on that.
exactly . after years of not standing up for myself by thinking i know the truth who cares what they believe iv suddenly realized that no one even my mum knows who i am. iv tried talking to her but to correct her with facts is like a personal attack or she uses against me or twists it meaning , to where i come out thinking i must be talking a different language so i clarify simplfy but they dont hear you and totally miss the point accusing me of stuff . So i give up. ... and then i get the ' you never talk to me ' Mothers! u cant win
Peterson: "silence"
Cathy : Are you implying that talking to a woman isn't worth your time?
Good one
Legend27
Peterson: **silence**
I say that talking to women is a waste of time and even dangerous to men every day and I mean it, women know that they can lie about you and spread it all over town and a man can be arrested after having done nothing wrong and they say you can't hit a woman. Today's women are dangerous and they know it they use our judicial system like a club and you better be able to duck.
Ohhh my soul😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
Peterson: I don’t like decorative pillows
Cathy: So you’re saying all women should be enslaved?
I mean...
Niŋin turdl已 "womens!" Seriously?
Niŋin turdl已 Weird how his name includes "troll" but cant recognize "trolling"
Why shouldn’t we enslave them ??
Cathy and trolls will be a perfect marriage. Both same IQ
Dr. Peterson is so refreshing to listen to. The world doesn't deserve him, but there he is. And thank God for blessing us with him.
Great breakdown. Excellent
Arguments aren't about using facts anymore. It's about who can whine the loudest.
depends on viewer criteria. I'm amazed at how many people use the above for theirs.
thats the difference between an argument and a debate
facts do win the convo but convo with halfwits, it doesn't work haha
Oh my god, yes woman do this a lot
Lol if you let them whine louder
Someone should have warned her that this man is extremely intelligent.
based.
If she went to Oxford no warning should be needed
@slam slam she’s literally just doing her job as an interviewer; the chances are she was told exactly what to say
Not that he's not intelligent, but debating ia much more about emotional intelligence than any other kind. And that's his true merit.
@Foppo Leeuwerke Compared to intelligent men she's not very intelligent. Maybe she's intelligent for a woman.
She displayed common abusive tactics. Jordan handled this well. Abusive, manipulative, and narcissist’s are masters at this type of verbal abuse. They can get the most intelligent grounded person flummoxed. I agree that Jordan’s statement “I gotcha!” Was not only unnecessary, but did undermine the feeling of the interview.
Five years ago ...... life has flown by. This video popped up again in my recommendations. I still like it as much as the first time. 👍👍
Jordan Peterson is the most articulate person I have ever seen
Avadhut Talbar Christopher hitchens is on a similar level - check him out if you’re interested :)
yeah , definitely
Avadhut Talbar he and Ben Shapiro
you bloody well know it, bucko
so u should meet Ben Shapiro
I think that "gotcha" was intended to be more like ice-breaking, not humiliating. Kinda "stop attacking, let's laugh this off".
@John Galt But she did save her position by a strategy I'd call, 'taking the hit. She's a bit stronger by admitting she's taken damage and that allow you to like her a little bit......'>.......
Agreed. It contrasted so sharply in tone with the rest of the interview that it made him come across as a lot less combative. He gave her an exit out of a tough situation where his silence could have just forced her to change the subject or apologise for making him feel uncomfortable.
I mean at the end of the day they're both professionals and should look out for each other every now and then despite their different views. I think Jordan momentarily kinda felt that empathy given it is her show. It would've been incredibly awkward if they both just kept silent while she takes the blow and tries to stutter her way back in. Props to Jordan for recognising that.
If they'd stop hacking my phone that'd be great. They're damned malicious with hacking. who are they?
I felt like that too
Wow!! I love the way you picked apart this interview. I learned a lot and I'm going to watched another of your clips.
Thank you so much for uploading this video. I need to watch over and over and I can deal with whoever attacking me.
He deserved that "Gotcha" after tolerating her attacks.
That was SWEET.
He may have deserved it, but doing the same thing the other person does is never the right move when it comes to winning anyone over. It only is on their same level - humiliating and demoralizing them. It wasn't in good taste, but everyone makes mistakes. Overall, he still did an excellent job - certainly much better than many others do.
I saw it as more of an ironic "gotcha" like he wasn't trying to do that, but he's happy he got her to see his side without belittling her. If he could've taken control of the interview back right there and said something like how he didn't actually want to have a "gotcha" moment, and he's happy she's seeing his side, it would've made him out to have taken the high road and still beat her.
@@CHIEF__ Jordan was playing with her.
He has treated 100's of women the carbon copy of *Katty,* the most telling part of the whole interview was when JP said;
"I suspect that your unpleasantness has served YOU very well over the years"
Katty's rep;
"Yes.... YES it has in fact"
JP was gentle with her, because he knows just how mentally fragile she truly IS.
@@aqua3418 If I were Jordan, I don't want to win that woman over. So Gotcha all the way.
Peterson: Good Bye
Interviewer: so you're saying I asked you to leave?
Ahahahaha
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Who is doing an interview？And what for？ This video is about How to keep your cool in an argument.
Andrew Dembegiotis best one yet
You don't even need to say anything. You are joging. So, you try to tell me I'm to fat and I need to lose weight?!
Thank you for a terrific analysis and prioritising the attempt to have an honest constructive discussion, finding common ground, rather than triumph over the other person
Thanks for the video. It's really useful in everyday life!
Husband about waitress: “She seems nice”
Wife: “So you’re saying you want a divorce?”
Hahaha waitress to husband, "lemme get this mess out of your way" husband to waitress "I already called her an Uber". 🖖😎
Husband “She seems nice” Wife “So you want a divorce?” Husband “No, I’m thinking of a threesome!”
Husband about waitress: “She seems nice”
Wife: " you just sexually assault that girl"
He said: "I thought our waitress was very nice."
She heard: "I'll be thinking about her during sex."
This is typical borderline behaviour, I was there, not a nice place to be.
"It's been rather uncomfortable." That's an amazing line.
Followed by the 2 seconds long frowns face, followed by the smile, hahaha
The change in body language really drove it home for sure.
The smile originates at the upper lip area. It’s almost like a scowl. It says “I can’t stand you but I’m still going to be civil “. His smile is the most overt action to contempt for the interviewer.
Nice! Really interesting. Thanks for the perspective, and helping folx uncover presuppositions in others' language. Just beginning my study of NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) and learning to spot presuppositions among other "violations" in people's language. Nicely done here.
Jordan breaths
Interviewer: so you are saying I'm underwater
lol
Hahahah
🤣🤣🤣
This one's my favorite
I am fucking crying! Almost woke up everyone in the house with this!
Jordan knows himself and he trusts to logic. That makes him comfortable in his own skin. He also has the patience of a saint.
I always thought: people that won't let you talk, will twist your words ect, don't actually believe in their own arguments. Peterson knows that he's right so he'll just let his interlocutors talk until they imminently contradict themselves.
@@emmanuellelarocque9440 The narrator is right....it's conversational bullying. Sometimes overt, but often sneaky or veiled. They aren't there to listen to your point of view or learn something. It's like a battle for them. I see so much of that in CZcams comments. I think most of us just react with anger and maybe get flustered and deny whatever accusation is being thrown. Jordan is very good at not allowing people to get a rise out of him. Instead, you can usually see them getting annoyed. It's very enjoyable to watch.
Jordan stays calm the majority of the time because he knows that he has stats and research to back his opinion. Which is why in all of his interviews and debates, he always asks the other person to present the evidence and they rarely ever do
@@nexpro6118 I think he has a sort of confidence in what he is saying because he has already thought it all over very thoroughly at some point. His business seems to be thinking and analyzing and trying to come to grips with how things are connected and how they work. And it is also instruction and enabling others to understand, which equips him to defend what he says. Even so, he will pause and consider, in case there are other possibilities, before he responds. The people he debates are seldom so prepared.
@@dodieodie498 very well said...and with that said, I think most people who debate with feelings and the sense of having a higher morally superiority just personally attack the other person because he and or she cannot rely on facts and stats.
Thank you for sharing this!
To repeat the main point for me: its to actually remember in detail what your point(s) is/are and 2. being able to understand what the other person wants to say and/or convince you of. And 3. Then compare these 2 with one another. And point out every wrong assumption in a relaxed way
Peterson : hello
Interviewer: so you are saying that we should never say bye to anyone?
ahahahhahahahaha that' what i thought exactly
lame
🤣
Yours made me laugh the most of all 😝
LOOOOOOOOOL
She said "so your saying" over 20 times that interview.
over 75 times in the actual video!
*you’re
Maybe they are trained to do so.
Libtards love this phrase, they absolutely do. I’ve encountered this illogical phrase countless times - whenever I try to get a point across, they just throw it at me.
It's the tone in which they say it, clearly Newman was trying to entrap Peterson, but you could say the same thing in an ordinary conversation and it would be fine.. Newman was clearly looking for straw for her strawman though
wow, great video and topic!!
I always felt the moment he said "gotcha" was more to spare her from the humiliating silence he had placed her in
It's true
I agree
Indeed.
like the way how this comment is worded in
Exactly right !! Cos, you hear the awkward silence and then you're thinking, 'someone help here'...and than the true knight in armour Peterson comes to this woman's aide.
Jordan: I’m an analyst and a therapist
Cathy: so you’re saying you’re an analrapist
hahaha
😂😂
good one
🤣
Hahaha, brilliant 🤣😂
Sad thing is, this actually happens out there.
Not all of us are like Jordan Petterson and we can't all stump your Cathy's and Karen's ...
This was an amazing awesome back and forth from these two. God Bless you for sharing this teaching.
Wow wow wow. I have new home work. Conversation is a skill like anything else. But because I have been speaking since I was 2 I thought I knew how. It is clear to me I don’t. Thanks for this video. Now let me get my notebook and learn these lessons. ❤
Cathy Newman's greatest claim to fame is being destroyed by Jordan Peterson on television. You go girl.
Did she embarrass herself, or did she get "destroyed" ? Make up your mind...
@@swordsheldhigh7934 you can get destroyed and embarrass yourself at the same time
@@medicus4560 Is that supposed to make me scared of debating with people`?
@@swordsheldhigh7934 I really have no idea where did you get that from, but no, reasons like not having a point should make you (or anybody) scared of debating with people.
@@swordsheldhigh7934 where did you get the idea that I was confused as to if she embarrassed herself or got destroyed? I made a very clear statement and *you* think that *I* haven't made up my mind? Jesus. And you seem to think that being destroyed on your own television show is not embarrassing? You're out of your element here Corky. Go play in traffic.
Cathy is a bully then plays the Victim when she lost
That's exactly what bullies usually do ...
How to be a Marxist 101.
I wouldn't say she is a bully, but rather, this is her job - she needs to interrogate, question and command soundbites from the interview. Yes, she may personally agree with much of what she is saying, but there are times where she needs to play devil's advocate. That is how I see it anyway.
Jerome . HAHA! thats a good point.. But I don't Think Cathy's saying things Out of context, over simplifications, misrepresentations and misleading are form of intellectual interrogation.. Cathy is a Bully its her Job to do so.. She is no Devils advocate. She is just Dumb. Seriously Just watch the "Lobster" part.. You will see her Level of Intelligence.
Jerome.. She is misleading and misrepresenting what Jordan had said.. ANd that is what bully always do. Then once you trap and defeat the bully. They play as a Victim in which is what she did.. She even claim that the Jordan Fans will gonna harass her.
Ty this helps me