Pontiacs for 1964

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  • John DeLorean replaced Pete Estes as general manager, and he continued the same emphasis on performance that Bunkie Knudsen and Estes had begun.
    The big news for 1964 For 1964, the Tempest and LeMans' transaxle design was dropped and the cars were redesigned under GM's new A body platform; frame cars with a conventional front-engine, rear-wheel-drive layout. The most important of these is the GTO, short for "Gran Turismo Omologato," the Italian for "Grand Touring, Homologated" used by Ferrari as a badge to announce a car's official qualification for racing. In spite of a GM unwritten edict against engines larger than 330 ci in intermediate cars, DeLorean (with support from Jim Wangers from Pontiac's ad agency), came up with the idea to offer the GTO as a dealer option package that included a 389 ci engine rated at 325 or 348 horsepower (260 kW).
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Komentáře • 362

  • @kingkrimson8771
    @kingkrimson8771 Před 2 lety +9

    Imagine back in autumn of '63 when the Pontiac dealership sales staff (all male, of course) were assembled in the training room watching this video. Pall Mall smoke thick in the air, the scent of Brylcreem and Aqua Velva aftershave wafting about. Ah, the good old days!

    • @BlackPill-pu4vi
      @BlackPill-pu4vi Před rokem

      Yes, the good ol' days. Today, you can't be sure about the "gender" of your sales "agent." To mention "person" is possibly offensive to furries, witches, and species-neutrals. No smoking allowed but, there are smart phones and personal pronoun badges on all attendees.
      The collapse into madness took less than 60 years from when this video was made, which is nearly a vertical drop over the lifespan of Western civilization.

  • @jimhampton4130
    @jimhampton4130 Před 5 lety +39

    I still own my 1967 Pontiac GTO, 4 speed with a Hurst floor shifter, 400 HO engine with 360 hp after 52 years.

    • @jeremythompson9122
      @jeremythompson9122 Před 5 lety +4

      A guy that lives near me has a 67 GTO also with the 400 HO-4 speed combo and it's actually his daily driver all year long other than in the winter or when it rains. He's the 2nd owner. It's in beautiful shape too. Original and unrestored. It's not 100 percent mint but it's in outstanding condition for how much it gets driven. Definitely a nice #2 car for sure

    • @jayrowe6473
      @jayrowe6473 Před 4 lety +2

      If you want to leave it in good hands, contact me.

    • @Smarty1171
      @Smarty1171 Před 2 lety

      Now that’s an old man’s car.

    • @warrenpuckett4203
      @warrenpuckett4203 Před 2 lety +1

      I bet it still has a better ride than a 2022 whatever. I miss my 1970 Lemans Sport.
      After 3 350 trans rebuilds I gave it to a guy that raced dirt track. He put 292 I-6 in it with 350 heads he welded together and re-machined to fit the block. Oh and the pistons from a 350 would & did fit in it. Even better results than a Clifford. Ran it for 2 seasons. None of the 350s made it through one season.
      2 cylinders lighter 300+ HP.
      When you think about a Atlas I-6 (256CI) makes 275-290 HP.
      This might be why the Tempest OHC I-6 was so lame. "Wouldn't you rather have a V-8?"
      Now you cant fit a I-6 in 2022 anything. Even the RAM is a V-6. Guess the I-6s last too long.
      Plus you need 25 lbs more steel and plastic and a longer hood to stuff it in. Out of style.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin Před 2 lety +1

      @@Smarty1171 Yeah that looks a million times better than overpriced eggshell on wheels you see on the road today.

  • @blackvulcan100
    @blackvulcan100 Před 6 lety +53

    When I was a young man I visited the USA in 1969.The people who we stayed with owned a Pontiac Bonneville in metalic maroon with cream upholstery,I thought it was the most beautiful car I had ever seen,power steering, power brakes as standard fit nothing like it back here in the UK.I have loved those cars ever since and when I go to heaven I will have a garage full of lovely shiny cars like this one.

  • @wildbill5670
    @wildbill5670 Před 6 lety +8

    My dad's first new car when I was a little kid was a 1960 Pontiac Catalina Safari wagon. Turned me into a Pontiac freak. I've had a 68 Catalina, a 72 Bonneville and presently own a 72 GTO 455 H.O. 4 speed, 60 Bonneville Safari wagon, 62 Catalina wagon, 66 Bonneville Coupe, and a 66 Bonneville convertible.

  • @senorkaboom
    @senorkaboom Před 9 lety +43

    And, remember. These cars were the best engineered, quietest and most reliable cars ever in the Pontiac line. Well, until the '65 models hit the road.

    • @scdevon
      @scdevon Před 9 lety +10

      LOL. "You don't want your "old" 1963 model anymore, do 'ya"? "You want a new improved 1964 model, don't 'cha"?

    • @quad5186
      @quad5186 Před 5 lety +2

      Holding out til ‘65 - they will never make ANYTHING better than those ! Ever ! My people on the inside said so !!

    • @jeremythompson9122
      @jeremythompson9122 Před 5 lety +3

      I'd take a 65 Catalina 2+2 with the 376 horsepower 421 HO-4 speed over a 65 GTO. The 65-66 Catalina 2+2 were beautifully styled cars. I love the 65 Tri Power GTO...my favorite GTO other than a 69 Ram Air IV. But I'd take the 421 HO powered Catalina 2+2 if I had my pick of any 1965 Pontiac

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin Před 2 lety +1

      Even the 65-69 are still well made especially compared to the junk we have today.

  • @albiro4611
    @albiro4611 Před 4 lety +9

    Does anyone remember how when you clicked on the high beams In those cars a bright red Indian head would light up just under the 60 mph on the speedo...Only a Pontiac had this in honor of Chief Pontiac....

  • @zxtenn
    @zxtenn Před 4 lety +13

    Great salesman and voice, love these old vids, RIP Pontiac

    • @michaelcap9550
      @michaelcap9550 Před 3 lety +2

      GM should have kept Pontiac.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin Před 2 lety

      @@michaelcap9550 Exactly mate, not only Pontiac was GM's Mopar but also America's BMW as well.

  • @wiiambarnarx8485
    @wiiambarnarx8485 Před rokem +2

    The 1964 Bonneville was the most beautiful car of that era. The design was just perfect. I'm a die cast model collector and have been all my life and back in 1970 I went to the mall at Lenox Square. There I bought my first model car in 1:64 scale and it was a 1964 Bonneville. Purple in color. Matchbox. With it I bought a 1966 Ford Mustang fastback.

  • @bboucharde
    @bboucharde Před 9 lety +70

    Folks, These are some of the prettiest, cleanest-lined cars that GM ever made........

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Před 5 lety +2

      @Winning Grinn The idea of a single brand having multiple models on different body platforms began to really take of after the mid 60s, These are two different body platformss, If you go to 1960 all Pontiacs used 1 body platform., Most brands had 1 body and models were just trim and equipment packages on that 1 body.

    • @RivetGardener
      @RivetGardener Před 4 lety +2

      I wish they would make "clean" looking cars nowadays. I know what you mean.

    • @JamesBond-pb2qy
      @JamesBond-pb2qy Před 4 lety

      My late Father worked on the car Catilog s

    • @michaelwhite2823
      @michaelwhite2823 Před 4 lety +1

      Number three for most of the decade!

    • @cdjhyoung
      @cdjhyoung Před 4 lety +3

      @@jamesslick4790 The two platforms for one auto maker started with the acknowledgement that bigger wasn't always better, that there was a market for a less than full size car. All the North American auto makers struggled with the concept for decades, at least they struggled with the concept of producing a smaller car and making the per unit profit they expected from a full size car. GM as a whole developed a small body vehicle starting in 1960 as seen in the first Tempest, Corvair and Olds F85 cars. All used the same platform, but each had a different engine/transmission set up. Corvair had a rear engine/rear transmission set up: Pontiac had a new small four cylinder front mounted engine and rear transmission: Oldsmobile had a new aluminum V8 front mounted engine with traditional front mounted, rear drive, drive train. All experiments for new smaller drive trains and materials that only the Olds aluminum engine survived long term, and only after the technology and tooling were sold to Leland/Rover in England.
      Do you find it peculiar that no mention of the GTO Tempest is made in this video? The GTO was first offered in 1964.
      Never knew that Pontiac offered an overhead valve six cylinder engine. Looks a lot like a Chevy if you ask me. I wonder how long it was offered as the base engine model?
      Finally, for my tastes, the first year of the twin vertical front head light design, 1963, was the styling pinnacle of Pontiac.

  • @erin19030
    @erin19030 Před 5 lety +26

    Back when GM made good cars

  • @manonmars2009
    @manonmars2009 Před 5 lety +10

    As a kiddo back in the 60s, I remember American cars well. It seemed as though every new year model would have something new and exciting. Electric windows, vacuum operated door locks, pop up headlights, big roomy interiors that had color! Why, you could have a blue interior, a red interior, even a green, white, black, brown, tan interior, and color combinations in between. These cars did not pretend to be anything other than what they were. If you wanted a big, wide, heavy car, that's what you bought. And most importantly, they did not look as though they were fabricated at a candy factory to look like a jelly bean.

  • @ewfoxjr158
    @ewfoxjr158 Před 4 lety +3

    My Mom owned a '64 Bonneville two-door, tan inside & out. I learned to drive in that car, and it was a beautiful, powerful (389) V-8, such a pleasure to look at and drive.

  • @JosephMullin
    @JosephMullin Před 4 lety +4

    I had a 64 Grand Prix loved that car 389 high-performance slapstick auto. rolled bucket seats

  • @nicksolandros6829
    @nicksolandros6829 Před 4 lety +3

    I own a '64 Tempest Custom Convertible, great car. I replaced the 326 V-8 with a stroker 461 Pontiac V-8. Factory AC too. Good times!

  • @JackF99
    @JackF99 Před rokem +2

    Got to give Pontiac credit for going over the actual engineering of the cars instead of just spending the whole time talking about the body styling and interior fabrics like a 1950s clip.

  • @markproulx1472
    @markproulx1472 Před 4 lety +8

    For 1964, we’ve introduced faster dissolving steel - you’ll wonder where your car went after only one or two Michigan winters!

    • @arthurbilenker2622
      @arthurbilenker2622 Před 3 lety +5

      I got a 64 tempest from my brother in 1974.. It had been through 10 brutal Cleveland winters. I used to slather on the Bondo.

    • @waterheaterservices
      @waterheaterservices Před 2 lety +2

      I had a 61 Tempest from Salt Lake City when it was about 14 years old, you could kick holes in it lol.

  • @petermainwald6413
    @petermainwald6413 Před 9 lety +32

    Pontiac always had the best styling in the early '60s

    • @davidcampbell1899
      @davidcampbell1899 Před 4 lety +1

      BS, it was FORD!

    • @chriskelleher349
      @chriskelleher349 Před 4 lety

      Buick.

    • @jayrowe6473
      @jayrowe6473 Před 4 lety +2

      GM in general, but I've always been partial to Pontiac.

    • @joequillun7790
      @joequillun7790 Před 2 lety

      @@davidcampbell1899 Pontiac bumped Chrysler out of the #3 spot in the 60s, just behind chevy and Ford. The only reason they out sold Pontiac was because they were cheaper. Period

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin Před 2 lety

      They sure did brother

  • @dhy5342
    @dhy5342 Před 5 lety +13

    In the mid 1950s, Pontiac brought on Semon “Bunkie” Knudsen as general manager to revamp the struggling division and transform its old-man image to a more youthful persona. To accomplish this feat, Knudsen teamed with Pete Estes and brought in brilliant young engineers such as John DeLorean, Bill Collins, and Russ Gee. Under the leadership of Knudsen, Pontiac styling became leaner, more powerful and with a lower wide-track stance. Pontiac took its new designs to the track, battling it out with other Detroit automakers in NASCAR and NHRA. By the early 1960s, Pontiac’s transformation was complete and all was good… until January 1963. GM brass instituted an internal ban on racing that ended the successful game plan that Pontiac had used to propel itself into the #3 sales position. What would Pontiac do without racing to stoke the fires of its sales inferno?
    The solution came from a secret underground laboratory in Milford, Michigan. OK, that might be a little too dramatic. In reality, DeLorean, Collins, and Gee would meet most Saturday mornings at the Milford Proving Grounds for casual gatherings referred to as “what if” sessions. It was during one of those sessions that the elite engineering crew put a prototype 1964 LeMans coupe on a lift and examined the drivetrain components. As legend has it, Collins coolly suggested to DeLorean, “You know, John, it would take about 20 minutes to stick a 389 in here.” DeLorean responded, “Let’s try it.” Since the external dimensions of Pontiac blocks were the same size, with the same mounting provisions, the swap to the larger displacement 389 was relatively simple.
    Soon after this “what if” session, DeLorean was driving the very first “GTO,” a LeMans coupe powered by a classic 389 topped with a tri-power and bolted to a four-speed transmission. DeLorean put some of the most influential players at Pontiac and GM behind the wheel of the new creation. The LeMans test mule was said to be so much fun to drive that DeLorean often had difficulty getting the car back after he had loaned it out. At this point, the biggest obstacle DeLorean faced to get the car into production was GM’s internal policy regarding big engines in small cars: in the GTO’s case, a corporate edict mandating 10 pounds of vehicle weight per cubic inch of engine displacement. The team slyly discovered a loophole in the wording-the displacement limit only applied to base engines; there was nothing written about optional engines. So the LeMans with the GTO option package, which included the 389 V-8, adhered to the rule because it was offered only as an option. DeLorean reached out to Jim Wangers, vice president at Pontiac’s advertising agency, McManus, John, and Adams. DeLorean asked Wangers to promote the sensational car to a whole new generation of young Americans and show them the meaning of driving for fun. Wangers was so successful in promoting the GTO-optioned LeMans that Pontiac took 5000 dealer orders before the GM Corporate folks knew the car existed. There was no turning back.
    The Pontiac GTO was introduced to America in September 1963. And with that, Pontiac had taken its heroic racing battle off the track and brought it to the street, where it would once again do battle against arch rivals Ford, Mopar, and even Chevrolet. The ultimate muscle car superhero was born.
    One member of GM brass, Pontiac’s sales manager, was furious with DeLorean at a board meeting where his chicanery was exposed and where he was asking approval to build the car. Since orders were already coming in a compromise was reached and 5,000 cars were authorized. Supposedly the sales manager, who had been kept in the dark and was dead set against the car, angrily challenged DeLorean and said he’d never be able to sell the cars and the company would be stuck with them. DeLorean then turned to Jim Wangers and told him to “Get Those Orders” which went on to become one of many unofficial explanations of what “GTO” stood for. Ultimately over 32,000 1964 GTOs were sold.

    • @michaelweizer7794
      @michaelweizer7794 Před 4 lety

      Dhy5342 the rest is history!

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin Před 2 lety

      The Mid 50's is when Pontiac became GM's Mopar while in the 60s it also became America's BMW as well.

    • @dhy5342
      @dhy5342 Před 2 lety

      @@CJColvin Then came the Aztek, and the end was in sight.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin Před 2 lety +1

      @@dhy5342 When the Aztec came it was over for Pontiac (other than the 04 to 06 Pontiac GTO which was nothing but a rebadged Holden Monaro from Australia 🇦🇺 mate).

    • @thomastaylor6699
      @thomastaylor6699 Před rokem

      Thank you for that very informative history of the transition to a sleek, well defined car with a more powerful drivetrain.

  • @keithammleter3824
    @keithammleter3824 Před 3 lety +2

    The only Pontiac for that year available in Australia was the Parisienne, assembled locally form kits sent from Canada. They were indeed quiet. They were indeed smooth. But with that little six cyl motor in such a big car, it was a slug to drive.

  • @kkteutsch6416
    @kkteutsch6416 Před 5 lety +7

    This film deserves a restoration, although it was originally in color, it seems like a p/b with sepia finish.

  • @BrewBlaster
    @BrewBlaster Před 7 lety +5

    I'm biased to some degree because I was born this year; but I can't help but Love these Vehicles of every type of them!!

  • @chiefpontiac1800
    @chiefpontiac1800 Před 4 lety +3

    Pontiac's always had the best looking cars. If you could get your hands on a dual-quad 421 SD engine, you were the shit!

  • @hanc37
    @hanc37 Před 4 lety +3

    John DeLorean and Pontiac started the muscle car era with the 64 GTO/Tempest.

    • @andyc1955
      @andyc1955 Před 3 lety +1

      I believe you meant LeMans.

  • @johneddy908
    @johneddy908 Před 5 lety +3

    The 1964 Pontiac Tempest, Oldsmobile F-85 and Buick Special marked B-O-P's withdrawal from the compact-economy field until the Pontiac Ventura, Oldsmobile Omega and Buick Apollo (later Skylark) of the 1970s.

  • @dbridger620
    @dbridger620 Před 8 lety +19

    The vertically stacked headlights gave the grille a really nice look. The '65 Ford Galaxie 500 with it's squared styling and vertical headlights was my favorite!

    • @lennyhendricks4628
      @lennyhendricks4628 Před 6 lety +2

      we had a 65 500 LTD, beautiful car.

    • @jeremythompson9122
      @jeremythompson9122 Před 5 lety +1

      Add an R-Code 427 Side Oiler and a 4 speed to a 2 door 65 Galaxie 500 XL and you've got one of my favorite Ford's ever made. Or better yet a 65 Ford LTD with the R-Code 427-4 speed combo. I believe 3 or 4 of those were built. I've seen a red factory R-Code 65 LTD before and a green 67 LTD with the factory 427-4 speed. The same people own them both. Lucky mofos

    • @davidcampbell1899
      @davidcampbell1899 Před 4 lety

      I liked the Ford look better then the Pontiac

  • @crankychris2
    @crankychris2 Před 3 lety +2

    Let the musclecar era roar!

  • @loneggebroten2484
    @loneggebroten2484 Před 3 lety +2

    Got my 66 tri-power GTO in 86 for a grand. Drove it home. Still have it, but it's much faster now.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin Před 2 lety

      What upgrades does it have?

  • @JohnnyRebKy
    @JohnnyRebKy Před 2 lety +2

    You really couldn’t go wrong with any GM or Ford in 1964. I tend to like the Fords a bit better in that era though

  • @frequencyfluxfandango8504

    This is lovely to watch. I love those old Pontiacs'. Bigger, quieter and distinctively styled.
    Just Fantastic. Thank you for all your amazing uploads. I really enjoy them and this is another good one. Great stuff.

  • @johnhiram1207
    @johnhiram1207 Před 8 lety +3

    A friend had a Tempest with 6cyl and it was bullet proof. handled and rode really nice. The body rusted quickly here in New England.

  • @JamesBond-pb2qy
    @JamesBond-pb2qy Před 4 lety +2

    63 was a whole different animal. Same as 61/62. Have a few. 63 was pre 64 GTO

  • @tpcoachfix
    @tpcoachfix Před 11 lety +8

    The six cylinder engine looks identical to s Chevrolet six cylinder engine of that era????
    I have a 1965 Catalina convertible, I love it.

    • @jacquespoirier9071
      @jacquespoirier9071 Před 6 lety +1

      if not the OHC, the engine was Chevrolet at least for the 6 cylinders, on canadian markets, all engines were chevrolet

  • @ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717

    1964 was before my time but in 1990 I bought a Pontic Sunbird, it was not a convertible though. I loved my car.

  • @craigpennington1251
    @craigpennington1251 Před 4 lety +2

    1964 Pontiacs and to the 1966 model year, were super outstanding in every way. The build quality is second to none and so was the performance in every engine category range. I love the 50,60s, and some 70s Pontiacs and have owned some of those years. The late 70s, quality took a real nose dive and they never recovered. From 1976 to 83, they were junk.

  • @steven-vn9ui
    @steven-vn9ui Před 5 lety +5

    Not sure but I think the 64 tempest was smoother and quieter than before.

  • @auaiao9
    @auaiao9 Před 7 lety +6

    My parents had a '64 Catalina for a while. It was a good car.

  • @mightylonesome9426
    @mightylonesome9426 Před 4 lety +2

    I love Pontiacs and thought I knew a fare amount about them. But I didnt realize the Star Chief was still an optio in 64.

  • @johnpro2847
    @johnpro2847 Před 4 lety +1

    If they brought these cars back I would purchase one...too young previously.

  • @wgoldenny
    @wgoldenny Před 8 lety +8

    Smooth sailing in 1964 boat sank 2010

  • @thomastaylor6699
    @thomastaylor6699 Před rokem

    We had a 1966 Pontiac station wagon, and it had 400 c.i. engine with a Rochester 2bbl. Carb. That was one of the best cars on the road back then.

  • @starchiefgrayflake8224
    @starchiefgrayflake8224 Před 6 měsíci

    I love several pontiacs but I really love the '64. It had a very restrained aggressive look.

  • @PeterAndersons
    @PeterAndersons Před 7 lety +6

    "Shoulder room has increased four inches" the car's a convertible haha... whatever the case a lovely film from yesteryear. Cheers

  • @RobertPlattBell
    @RobertPlattBell Před 8 lety +3

    How interesting that in 1964 they were pushing the 6-cylinder engine and how quiet the car was. I guess this was before the GTO took off and Pontiac was still the "old man's car" division.

    • @KingRoseArchives
      @KingRoseArchives  Před 8 lety +1

      +Robert Bell It was just before the GTO. They were under pressure to build safe cars and avoid high performance. The GTO upended that apple cart.

    • @RobertPlattBell
      @RobertPlattBell Před 8 lety +1

      King Rose Archives
      Of course, Delorean was big on European sports cars and introduced the OHC "sprint" six a year or so later - in the tempest and the early Firebird. It went over like a lead balloon in the era of cheap V-8's. They are very rare and collectible now....most people tore them out and put in small blocks.

    • @SquillyMon
      @SquillyMon Před 8 lety

      I know...right ? I have never seen an OHC in the wild to be honest...just pics. Plenty of the regular straight sixes tho...but never the OHC

    • @RobertPlattBell
      @RobertPlattBell Před 8 lety +2

      SquillyMon
      When these were used cars in the 1970's, many people yanked out the "sprint six" in favor of a small-block.

  • @Swanlord05
    @Swanlord05 Před rokem +3

    Bring Pontiac Back!!

  • @mikevonkleist6767
    @mikevonkleist6767 Před 4 lety

    My brother bought a 1966 Pontiac Tempest with a 6 cylinder overhead cam engine a long time ago. Every time he wrecked it, I got to fix it. It had a timing belt. Never knew they existed. I think it was 250 CID. Powerglide transmission.

  • @jimstrict-998
    @jimstrict-998 Před 8 lety +6

    Our 63 Catalina had lap
    belts in the front only....

  • @micahap1559
    @micahap1559 Před 5 lety +3

    Would be nice to buy one now!

  • @The_R-n-I_Guy
    @The_R-n-I_Guy Před 3 lety +1

    The suspension design on that chassis is the same as my 96 Buick Roadmaster sedan. I guess if it works, leave it alone

  • @jimmieallen5096
    @jimmieallen5096 Před 4 lety +1

    I had a 64 starchief my uncle and I restored that car. Wish I still had it.

  • @EricJamesHanson
    @EricJamesHanson Před 7 lety +2

    I am honestly surprised by how many basic engineering changes there were in the "final year of production" full sized '64s. Changing the frame gauge. changing the body mounts, and upgrading all of the light filaments all had to do with underlying goodness. the rubber window seals trickled "up" to the big cars from the A car (Tempest) program.

  • @johnnyhawkins43
    @johnnyhawkins43 Před 4 lety +1

    I owned a 66 lemans I think or a Tempest,two door post with the single overhead cam three speed on the tree as they use to call them,and it was a great car!!!!!!#

  • @kenk7049
    @kenk7049 Před 3 lety

    My father bought a '64 Tempest 4 door around '67 after his '62 Falcon croaked. The Tempest had a 215 in it, it was good engine from what I remember. I remember tuning it up, very easy. I replaced the heater core, easy also. Junked it in '81. Always wished it was a GTO. :)

  • @Mynamesalexa
    @Mynamesalexa Před 4 lety +3

    My 1st car was a 1964 Grand Prix (1970) I paid $625.00 to my parents for it.
    They bought it new 11/1/63

  • @lecksisg4142
    @lecksisg4142 Před 8 lety +4

    nice videos everytime.good job.

  • @poochie49
    @poochie49 Před 6 lety +3

    Miss those Canadian Pontiacs....Strato -Chief (base model) then the Laurentien, (mid class) and then the Parisienne the top of the line. Great big chrome boats, rust buckets and whatever you want to call them. But that was the crème de la crème of North American Autos at that time.

    • @Rick1959
      @Rick1959 Před 6 lety +2

      Powered by Chevrolet for Canadian consumption in Pontiac's....For a while!

    • @janebook294
      @janebook294 Před 5 lety

      @@Rick1959 WAS PONTIAC SHEET METAL ON CHEBY CHASSIS , WHEELS WERE A FOOT AND A HALF INBOARD OF THE WHEEL WELLS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @user-pr8zn6iw5t
    @user-pr8zn6iw5t Před 26 dny

    I've seen this narrator before. He's a master.

  • @terp8373
    @terp8373 Před 5 lety +3

    He's sold me.

  • @DodAederen
    @DodAederen Před 5 lety +5

    Well, much of this is BS. The 63 tempest was a revolutionary car. I-4 engine, rear auto trans, aluminum V-8, monocoque construction. Excellent weight distribution. Better than anything Pontiac had after. But GM didn't like small cars, so they bloated it up like Ford did to the Thunderbird.
    I'm still a Pontiac man.

    • @waterheaterservices
      @waterheaterservices Před 2 lety

      I had one of those frameless freaks, a 61 Tempest. A real joy when the stressed body floor rails rusted.

    • @davestewart2067
      @davestewart2067 Před 11 měsíci

      There were three of those ‘61-‘63 BOP unitized oddballs in the Albuquerque pick a part 12-13 years ago. Didn’t dare buy anything for resale, too odd and strange.

  • @allencrider
    @allencrider Před 7 lety +8

    Longer, lower, wider.

  • @MrShobar
    @MrShobar Před 9 lety +3

    No seatbelts. No headrests. But I get the message about smooth ride.

  • @willcojak9650
    @willcojak9650 Před 4 lety +1

    My mom had a Catalina 1963 and a 73.

  • @MicheluceRizzuto
    @MicheluceRizzuto Před 6 lety +3

    “And head room is sky high!”

  • @GLC2013
    @GLC2013 Před 9 lety +2

    Love this guy's necktie! I want it!

    • @KingRoseArchives
      @KingRoseArchives  Před 9 lety +3

      GLC2013 Now I have to start a clothing line too. Isn't it enough that I post the videos????:-)

    • @GLC2013
      @GLC2013 Před 9 lety +1

      Ha ha! While you're at it, I'll take his awesome narrow-lapel suit, too. Size 40R '-)

    • @glennso47
      @glennso47 Před 7 lety +1

      GLC2013 He was probably buried in it!

    • @4thstooge75
      @4thstooge75 Před 6 lety +1

      His huge forehead too, part of his "look"!

  • @davidjames666
    @davidjames666 Před 5 lety +1

    Why can't we have these old styling brought back? Thinner metals, fiberglass, aluminum, and plastics along with a turbocharged direct injection aluminum head 4cyl engine with a lightweight fwd drivetrain should help keep the weight down. I can not believe that extending the interior by 2 feet, and the trunk by a foot will add that much weight to the small cars we have today. - cars that no one buys because we can not carry passengers in them.

    • @davidjames666
      @davidjames666 Před 5 lety

      @6:28 i forgot - it'll be unibody so it will save weight on the frame.

  • @JamesSmith-jq2jc
    @JamesSmith-jq2jc Před 4 lety +1

    Sure loved the styling of these cars and especially this year. I think I'll hold out though, I'm looking to get the 66 Chevelle, I'll be a little late picking it up, sure it'll be second or third, well who knew how many hands it went through, got it in '84. The suspension I put in was stiff, the noise OUTRAGES, open headers didn't help. The level of fun and memories, PRICELESS. Wish I still had it, but cars ARE safer and more fuel efficient now. Oh, LOTS quieter too.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin Před 2 lety

      Have you heard of a restomod before mate.

  • @plan6161
    @plan6161 Před 6 lety +7

    Sure miss the Good cars

  • @w41duvernay
    @w41duvernay Před 5 lety +1

    The SOHC Sprint 6 was supposed to joined this line up. They just couldn't iron out the problems into time. Funny saleman talks about the Pontiac being quiet. How could he explain the GTO?

  • @cjr3559
    @cjr3559 Před 5 lety +3

    140hp I6 pulling that much weight. Sounds like a nightmare

  • @buckshot6481
    @buckshot6481 Před 2 lety

    1964 GTO coupe 389 was a torque monster and yes it was great on the open road.

  • @stuartw1667
    @stuartw1667 Před 7 lety +7

    Those are all good selling points... but, is it smoother and quieter?

  • @stuart.8273
    @stuart.8273 Před 9 lety +7

    I want a Star Chief.or a Bonneville. And the blonde. Just a production question: they (GM Photographic Unit) were using a crane to film most of the shots, but didn't use a boom mike, instead he had to lug around a nasty microphone cable trailing from under his coat. But geewizz he was enthusiastic! I loved it.

    • @KingRoseArchives
      @KingRoseArchives  Před 9 lety +1

      Stu Art. I think it would have been seen in the wide shots. Didn't have radio mics in those days. GM Photo always had the latest toys. They would have had one if it existed.

    • @rapidrrobert4333
      @rapidrrobert4333 Před 9 lety +1

      Stu Art. I want that sloop in the opening!

    • @stuart.8273
      @stuart.8273 Před 9 lety

      RapidRrobert Granted! Although, have you seen Humphrey Bogart's beautiful boat "Santana" ? Its a 55' 1935 schooner. Apparently It still sails and races on San Francisco Bay. You can see it in the movie "Key Largo" (1948)

  • @user-vc9ig3pf5y
    @user-vc9ig3pf5y Před 11 měsíci

    When you look at the cars our parents owned they're very lucky to own want to own

  • @michaelwhite2823
    @michaelwhite2823 Před 4 lety +1

    This is great! Thanks!

  • @craigpennington1251
    @craigpennington1251 Před 4 lety +1

    They forgot the best seller of them all was the GTO first year out and a street strip screamer.

  • @kdkatz-ef2us
    @kdkatz-ef2us Před 2 lety

    The 5 additional inches of wheel stance make those cars feel like they're 8 feet wide when you're driving.

  • @compupix
    @compupix Před 2 lety +1

    1:04 Did anyone at anytime, think that suit looked good and fit well?

    • @wdrauch
      @wdrauch Před 2 lety +1

      I too was thinking what an ill fitting suit. Did they outfit this guy at Goodwill!

  • @michaelcap9550
    @michaelcap9550 Před 3 lety

    Parents had '64 Tempest for well over 100,000 miles. Probably still rolling along somewhere.

  • @fk4515
    @fk4515 Před 7 lety +2

    I like the "special" Pontiac six cylinder, it's a small bore version of the Chevy gen III 6 cylinder engine. So let's review- buy the cheaper Chevrolet and get a larger, more powerful standard engine. Next let's talk about 6s and disparage the V-6's the senior Divisions (Olds & Buick) use. Let's talk about how great the transmissions are in the large cars, the Roto-hydramatic and Super Hydramatic these transmissions are so darn good we're discontinuing them next year and switching to a 3 speed Turbohydramatic. We didn't talk much about the larger cars because they're really the same as last year. And remember the Pontiac is the quietest smoothest on the road so why spend more money on an Olds, Buick or Cadillac?

    • @4thstooge75
      @4thstooge75 Před 6 lety

      Your point with the transmissions was spot on GM needed better transmissions, but why did they keep the Powerglide for so long? they hurt performance & economy but GM rode it way too long. The Powerglide should have been long gone in the early 60's, Ford & Chrysler had long had 3 speed transmissions by then.

  • @SJAutomotiveDesign
    @SJAutomotiveDesign Před 3 lety +1

    14:00 Electro Cruise automatic speed control. Nowadays they call it "auto-pilot".
    Anyways, superb car!! 👏🏻

  • @jimr8198
    @jimr8198 Před 3 lety

    This guy was in all the GM commercials.

  • @user-vc9ig3pf5y
    @user-vc9ig3pf5y Před 11 měsíci

    I had a test drive I would keep going forget to bring The Pontiac Grand prix back

  • @wesleycook3181
    @wesleycook3181 Před 4 lety

    Pontiac also developed the first overhead camshaft engine the sprint 6 230 hp

  • @scottcol23
    @scottcol23 Před rokem

    "Every Pontiac model looks like a Pontiac, Even from a distance" lol love it

    • @BlackPill-pu4vi
      @BlackPill-pu4vi Před rokem +1

      Go into any parking lot today and try to tell one car from another. They all look like bugs, boxes, Fisher-Price toys, and some alienated kid's drawing of a kewl sci-fi killer car.

    • @scottcol23
      @scottcol23 Před rokem

      @@BlackPill-pu4vi Also I forget that back in those days Pontiac was a mid tier brand known for performance and luxury. And you wouldn't want someone thinking that the car you drove was just a Chevrolet, ugh.. Same thing with Buick. They were considerably more $$.

  • @dlwatib
    @dlwatib Před 7 lety +2

    @ 9:49 I wonder what they said about those "inherently unbalanced" V6s when they had to start selling them. A counterweighted crankshaft and 60° cylinder angle seems to have solved the problem pretty well.

    • @jacquespoirier9071
      @jacquespoirier9071 Před 6 lety

      firsts GM V6 auto engines were common cranck pin with a 90 degrees blocks, so these engines were vibrators, later, they used spilt pin crankshafts to porduce even pulses so these engines were much smoothers, the 60 degrees split pin crankshafts engines were introduced in the early '80 with the citation and its derivatives, these engines were smooth running but not as smooth as the inline six

    • @dhy5342
      @dhy5342 Před 5 lety

      The key word is "inherently". The straight six is, by design, in balance without the extra external balancing weights required by the V-6.

    • @norman_sage2528
      @norman_sage2528 Před 5 lety

      Buick's 3.8 liter had the 120 degree crank, offset rod bearings.

    • @davestewart2067
      @davestewart2067 Před 11 měsíci

      There was an “odd fire” and later an “even fire” Buick V-6. One of the longest running engines GM built. Lasted until 2009.

  • @themopedmetallist
    @themopedmetallist Před 9 lety +2

    Interesting how they could get 40 more horses with 1 less cubic inch than the Chevy 327/2bbl, youdathunk they could have borrowed the 326 for base V8 on the 1st-gen Camaro

    • @4thstooge75
      @4thstooge75 Před 6 lety

      They did they also borrowed the entire car and called it the Firebird !

  • @jorgecallico9177
    @jorgecallico9177 Před 4 lety +1

    "Two hundred and three inches"??.
    Shucks that's close to close to 17 feet!!

  • @drfalcon4102
    @drfalcon4102 Před 7 lety +2

    funny, the Tempest "6" was a small bore chevy, with a powerglide trans, also, the 326V-8 was no match for the Oldsmobile 330-V-8, the olds blew them away,

    • @vernwallen4246
      @vernwallen4246 Před 6 lety

      Starting in 1949 and continuing for many years,Olds was kicking b*tt all over the landscape.

    • @4thstooge75
      @4thstooge75 Před 6 lety

      Anything with a powerglide was a dog compared with a stick shift in the same car, or a comparable Mopar with a torqueflite.

  • @peejay1954
    @peejay1954 Před 9 lety +5

    LONGER, LOWER, WIDER !!!

  • @WAQWBrentwood
    @WAQWBrentwood Před 7 lety

    WOW, At dang near height of Poncho's performance era, They tried to sell me a Buick! (and I'm already a Buick guy!).

  • @SquillyMon
    @SquillyMon Před 8 lety

    Yes, but will it be Smoother and Quieter ? My new car must be Quiet and Smooth...did you mention it being Quiet or Smooth in this advert ? JEEZOO

  • @dhy5342
    @dhy5342 Před 5 lety +2

    It's too bad that Pontiac couldn't have come up with a way for the spokesman to speak and record without having to drag a microphone cord around behind him.

    • @applicareinc
      @applicareinc Před 5 lety +2

      When was it that cordless microphones started to be reliable and used regularly? Do you know?

    • @waterheaterservices
      @waterheaterservices Před 2 lety

      @@applicareinc Around 1982 [?]

  • @plainsabertooth7828
    @plainsabertooth7828 Před 9 lety +45

    what happened to this country?

    • @TheMaxx111
      @TheMaxx111 Před 9 lety +12

      LBJ!

    • @marcmarcmarcmarcmarc
      @marcmarcmarcmarcmarc Před 8 lety +21

      i would be called a racist if i were to answer your question truthfully,

    • @plainsabertooth7828
      @plainsabertooth7828 Před 8 lety +3

      i'm not racist.

    • @TheHelado36
      @TheHelado36 Před 7 lety +1

      stockingandblossom1 very sad but I think the industry just took it too easy and reality came without notice ! Why gas prices are so expensive here is another complicated issue !

    • @daytonasixty-eight1354
      @daytonasixty-eight1354 Před 7 lety +23

      We went from a 90% white society to a 60% white society. History has shown repeatedly that the more brown a country becomes, the worse it gets.

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin Před 2 lety

    1964 the same year that began the muscle car era.

  • @bfmcarparts
    @bfmcarparts Před 2 lety

    I notice there was no engine sound of that Tempest-optioned car the GTO?

  • @cudaus1
    @cudaus1 Před 8 lety +3

    Funny their is no mention of the GTO. If memory serves me correctly, that was the icon's first year. Maybe it was introduced later in the model year.

    • @KingRoseArchives
      @KingRoseArchives  Před 8 lety +3

      DeLorean was under orders not to put big engines in small cars. GM and the other automakers were downplaying racing and performance because a series of racing accidents generated bad publicity. In GM's case they also didn't want to drive up sales too much more because they were deathly afraid that the government would step in and break them up since they already controlled such a huge percentage of market share. It was a delicate dance. So DeLorean snuck its announcement in at the tail end of his presentation to the dealers. Kind of as an aside. Of course, the dealers had heard rumors it was coming and went nuts when it was official. He told them that only a few would be available. What he should have said, only a few meant, only as many as they could sell. For all his foibles you have to admire him for this "up the organization" maneuver.

    • @cudaus1
      @cudaus1 Před 8 lety

      Thanks for the info.

    • @danielkeener5140
      @danielkeener5140 Před 8 lety

      haha yea there is a lot more to the GTO's story that your missing;)

    • @danielkeener5140
      @danielkeener5140 Před 8 lety

      Its the first true muscle car for a reason....

    • @cudaus1
      @cudaus1 Před 8 lety +1

      Even being a staunch Mopar guy, I agree with you Daniel.

  • @lennyhendricks4628
    @lennyhendricks4628 Před 6 lety +1

    Huh?? I thought the biggest news from Pon-Ton in 64 was the GTO!!!!

    • @KingRoseArchives
      @KingRoseArchives  Před 6 lety +4

      They weren't talking about it -- officially. It was hush hush.

  • @johnpro2847
    @johnpro2847 Před 4 lety +2

    3:40 That was fine when gas was 34 cents /gallon

  • @tpcoachfix
    @tpcoachfix Před 8 lety +4

    That six cylinder engine looks just like a Chevrolet six cylinder engine.

    • @KingRoseArchives
      @KingRoseArchives  Před 8 lety +2

      Yes and no. In the mid-1960s, Pontiac revived their straight-6 for a short time.
      Although it was of a different displacement, this Pontiac engine was based on Chevrolet's Generation 3 straight-6.
      Pushrod 215The 215 cu in (3.5 L) straight-6 was produced in 1964 and 1965. It is sometimes confused with the 215 aluminum V8 used in the two years prior. It was an OHV/pushrod engine design, quite different from the previous Pontiac straight-6 engines.
      It was a smaller bore (3.75") version of the 230 cu in (3.8 L) Chevrolet straight-6 engine. The Pontiac 215 engine had a Chevrolet bellhousing but the flywheel/flexplate bolt pattern had a Pontiac V8 bolt pattern.

    • @mebeasensei
      @mebeasensei Před 8 lety

      Amazing that GM divisions had different engines. Now I'm wondering, were the Holden (Australian General Motors) red sixes of the 60s, 70s, and 80s a derivative of these Chev or Pontiac sixes too? They were pushrod, OHVs of 149 to 202 c.i.

    • @dhy5342
      @dhy5342 Před 5 lety

      You also might say that the six cylinder Chevrolet engine looks just like a Pontiac engine.

  • @dwcoop5390
    @dwcoop5390 Před 6 lety

    Once again the Beaumont is not mentioned.. extremely rare canada only Pontiac with chevelle body and GTO dash and interior

  • @tommyjohnson3148
    @tommyjohnson3148 Před 5 lety +3

    I wonder who this ad man is. He is great.