According to Dick Grayson both batman and superman were his main influence when it came to developing Nightwing. Dick Grayson is the one that keeps the bat family grounded and wholesome
But Dick would tell you it's because of Bruce that he was able to overcome his trauma. The father is supposed to provide a way for his son to surpass him, and that's what Bruce did.
@Dick Grayson "doesn't bring himself down" You really need to read the 90s run of Nightwing bcs he was really fucking depressed and traumatized in that one and pretty much loathed himself every issue ever since Blockbuster died.
The Older I get the more I realize that Dick Grayson is the only true person to ever replace Bruce as Batman and even then he doesn't need to as he is still his own hero.
@@discorddiscord2647 In gotham Knights batman dies while fighting Ra's al ghul. Barbara, Jason, Tim and Grayson take over to protect gotham and solve the case about the cult of owls, that bruce was working on, while also managing a few villains storyquests. There are many things you can find, such as these audio files. The game emphazises the Batfamilies releationship and shows bruces fatherly side. For me it's a very wholesome and enjoyable experience, even if the game is quite a bit unpolished i have a lot of fun.
Hearing Batman of all characters get sentimental in this way was really powerful didn’t fail to make me slightly emotionally. I love the story of Dick Grayson and Bruce Wayne. Props to this game for showing the tragically realistic father son relationship these two have. Bruce was a stubborn bastard but it’s easy to tell he wanted to be a good dad and loved Dick a lot.
@@pedrobernardes98 Yes, moments where you don’t feel anything because you felt nothing for the characters. Alfred barely had any emotion and Batman moved on from situations within two seconds. Only game with actual developed and earned heartfelt moments is Origins.
I want the Batsuit for Dick so bad, maybe as DLC someday. As Bruce says here Dick rejects and seems to be a far cry from what Batman is but in reality Bruce wants Batman to become more like Nightwing and would gladly give him the mantle.
Agreed! I wouldn't mind if we just got a customizable Knighthood suit that you can change the Symbol to a Bat symbol and his mask to a Bat cowl. I would be satisfied with that honestly
@@KSIDDHESH This isn't part of the Arkham Series, Barbara is Batgirl here, instead of Oracle, but in the Arkham Series, she's Oracle because of Joker shooting her in the spine and paralyzing her from the waist down, and this happens long before Bruce "dies" in Knight.
@@starkiller6558 Okay my man, let me correct few of your "mistakes" in this comment. First, it was hinted time and again, that this Babs was also paralyzed at some point. During that time she became Oracle. This pretty much follow it's comic books counterpart. In fact, after learning about to court of owls, she specifically said: "I was an Oracle...". After several years of being wheelchair-bound, there was some brilliant medical treatment meant for the people like Babs(whose spine, in the LOWER BACK, was damaged and so that she lost her legs). She underwent surgery, it was success and she returned as Batgirl. It was alluded several times through this game, that Babs was in deed in wheelchair till some point in the story(the one scene that is seared in my mind is when Babs is training with that "training dummy" and she tells Dick, that she has troubles with her LOWER BACK, which is exactly where she was shot). I am not saying this is a sequel, i am not even saying it is the same universe as Arkham series, but it is definitely AFTER Babs was shot and "cured", not "long before".
Damn I just wrote something to this nature on a blog describing the Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson dynamic “People forget because of the whole Batman and Robin theme is the reason why Bruce and Dicks relationship was much deeper than the other Robins including Damian. Not cause Dick was the first, but Dick saw Bruce at growth time in his life that Bruce as Batman and Batman as Bruce had yet to truly master. Bruce gets what Grayson is going thru, they’re the same. Losing someone you love is one thing, but witnessing it takes a huge toll. The only difference, is Bruce got to Dick super early and helped him channel his anger into crime fighting. While it’s not the best therapy, it helped Grayson early in his life and he is the embodiment of what Bruce wants to be as everyday man and a crime fighter. What he truly wants Batman to symbolize!! Some people see the heir to Batman in Dick, but Bruce will one day realize that as he is the better version of all Wayne men Nightwing is the better version of The Batman. He needs Dick to be Nightwing, not Batman” Idk if I was spot on with my response
These audio logs have always been one of my favorite parts of the Batman games. My favorite has to be the Victor Zaaz audio logs from Arkham City but there are so many good ones. I love this one too.
Of all the people who took up the mantle of Robin he always looked at Dick Grayson as his real son. Yeah there was time Bruce was like a horrible father and very stubborn, but he did try and be a great father figure or just straight up father to Dick. He just want the best for him more than anything. They did have their arguments and all, but who doesn’t have their arguments with their parents?? For him to finally call Dick his son was emotional in a great way, he even showed it he wish deep down he can be like Dick because of him he hold Bruce together and there was times Bruce cannot help but smile at Dick. He is the definition of Bruce’s favourite and true son🥲
I always saw Dick as the next Batman growing up he's earned it sure he and Bruce had their anger issue moments but still they were so close love how Bruce call's him his son cause I also saw Dick as Bruce's son he'll never forget his real parents but Bruce did a good job raising Dick I'd say. Bruce may look really strong on the outside but as you can see here he's pretty soft on the inside he's had his moments when he can actually show his deepest emotions were we actually see him breakdown and even cry in Injustice when Dick died some fans were shocked Bruce cried and I'm like uh hello that was his son guys sure some of you may not think so but yes Dick is Bruce's oldest son Damien may be his biological son but blood doesn't matter when it comes to family can be a close friend as a brother or sister. And Dick was a good friend but more of a son to Bruce he loved Dick and probably never told him how truly proud he was of him so many words left unspoken like here in this audio recoding never said the words to Dick in person like he should have when he had the chance.
I need to absolutely praise Michael Antonakos here. He absolutely nails the performance here he sounds destroyed and that is exactly the delivery he needed he didnt get caught up in being Batman here he just focused on a playing a father realizing how much his son mattered to him and how badly he screwed up their relationship desperately wanting a chance to see him and be close with him again
This made me think of the new injustice movie when nightwing is killed by accident by damien and bruce loses all composure and eventually breaks down with catwoman later like obviously this is from a different source but I was listening as if this was the injustice batman saying all the things he wished he could've before he died like even the last part "I'll tell him next time he's home" to me sounds like a parent would hasn't accepted their child is gone
Gotham Knights: „Batman dies and records such emotional tapes for his protégées to find. Everyone is deeply hurt with Batman‘s loss...“ Also Gotham Knights: „Hey guys! The pride parade is next week and we all have to wear rainbows then! Also, Tim Drake needs help finding Bigfoot!“
Yeah, I felt the same way. Like, great you want to add the pride stuff.. how about you save that for a posting ending of the main campaign after the final chapter with the court of owls. It's just crowbarred in and tone deaf as to the priorities of the knights after their father/uncle figure died.
I wish there was more to this game but goddamn they got the batfamily dynamic PERFECT. This family dynamic in the Arkham games would have made those games even better
Damn I’ll give the game this. Has to be one of the saddest messages from Batman. He was always proud of Dick he just could never say it to him honestly
This game has lots of issues, it could have been more, so much better, it had lots of potential, but one thing I will say is that I can see that the developers had passion, they liked the lore of the bat family, of batman, they knew, and they did their best to deliver a good story, and I love this, I enjoyed the story, really, especially hearing these audios, listening the characters talk between each other, the family dynamic, wonderful. However, I still can't fully accept the fact that a story like this, that was meant to be played with all the bat family members together, with more lines, was instead developed as a single player run, sure they talked later, but it still missed something you know... I understand that they did it for gameplay reasons, but if they could have found a way, they made a bad call with this kind of gameplay in my opinion.
Dick Grayson: The son who over came the trauma through the hard work Batman put him through. Finds hope. While Bruce stares into the abyss, Dick smiles at it.
After seeing what rocksteady did I’m going to buy this game At least it treats Batman with respect And I get to play as my all time favourite character Nightwing
I don’t blame you man, it’s exactly what I did too, and honestly after ssktjl i believe i judged Gotham Knights way too hard, it’s truly not that bad, not faultless but not bad
Still crazy to think people battered this game for shitty gameplay, and to be fair, it was no Arkham game. But the vast majority let that get in the way of acknowledging that it had an excellent story. Every characterisation is perfect to a tee.
I read one comic where dick was batman when Bruce disappeared and commissioner Gordon immediately knew that he was nightwing in that suit and Gordon said that some cops in the gcpd prefer him over bruce and I was like what 😂😂😂
This game mite be mid but let it never be said it's has probably the best version of batman aside from the comics and arkham series and maybe telltale too
Bruce was never a adoptive father to dick and dick was never a adoptive son to Bruce what they had was real. when dick was growing up all he wanted was to be like batman/Bruce and all Bruce wanted was for dick not to be like him
Your kinda right, when dick was growing up he wanted to be like Bruce, be THE Batman, but as he aged he saw that darkness in Bruce, what drove him and he didn’t want to be that, nor did Bruce want him to become that, he wanted to steer him in the direction to be a better man, and that’s exactly what Bruce did. While Bruce may never be dicks biological father, we all know that Bruce loves him like a father would his son. That’s the beauty of their dynamic, dick is his own man and Bruce aspires to share that light he has just like he does Superman, he may not be perfect but he tries (when the writers let him anyway)
"He does not need me bothering him. He doesn't need me at all"
Man that hurts right in the fatherhood =/
Damn he's both so so proud and sad just from that line.
@@stonecianomars5838Bruce finally feelin how an old father feels about their adult children
Bruce calling dick his son reminds me so much of Injustice. "You stopped being my son when you killed Dick Grayson. He WAS my son."
Injustice movie?
@@abdulrahimnadil5510 video game
That was harsh, but not undeserved.
And people say this game is a cash grab. It’s clear that a lot of thought and love went into these characters.
Its the gameplay that people complained about.
@@Strato_Casterrr9898 we’ve seen worse gameplays. It needs time to improve (although no 60FPS is unacceptable but it’s okey)
@@mohamedalnabhani1354 true true. Me personally, from all the footage I saw, the game just needs polishing, lots of polishing.
@@Strato_Casterrr9898 with patches, updates and DLCs this game will be 10/10. This game has potential
@@mohamedalnabhani1354 YEAH!!!! I can't wait for it to be GOTY!
Batman: Robin need to help bring the man who murdered his family to justice
Wonder Woman: So he could turn out like you
Batman: So that he wouldn't
YOUNG JUSTICE , the best dc show ever
I like how I just remember where these lines are from
One of the most powerful Robin scene in existence
That was so badass mic drop moment
and Bruce made that statement come true because Nightwing while he had batman like tendencies truly became his own man.
According to Dick Grayson both batman and superman were his main influence when it came to developing Nightwing. Dick Grayson is the one that keeps the bat family grounded and wholesome
Well with superman it's moreso that he literally got the name Nightwing from superman
@@protalghulnist4126Well Nightwing is taking Batman’s teachings but utilizing it to forge his own path of justice due to advice from Superman.
@@arfhat89Nightwing is essentially Batman with Superman ideals
@@Raydnt69 There is a reason in all of D.C. the one person every hero trusts the most is Nightwing.
I couldn’t agree more.
Unlike Grayson, Wayne never conquered his trauma.
Hit the nail on the head, my friend.
Eehhhhh Nightwing has some pretty unresolved trauma of his own, it's just that it isn't at a nearly extreme level as it is for bruce
But Dick would tell you it's because of Bruce that he was able to overcome his trauma. The father is supposed to provide a way for his son to surpass him, and that's what Bruce did.
@@jrob4795 I think Nightwing is the reason why Batman walks around with lollipops.
@Dick Grayson "doesn't bring himself down"
You really need to read the 90s run of Nightwing bcs he was really fucking depressed and traumatized in that one and pretty much loathed himself every issue ever since Blockbuster died.
“I’d tell my son that I miss him” 😢
I can imagine Dick sitting on a rooftop or in his room scrolling through Bruce’s logs. Than coming across this one
Who is hearing this logs ? Dick?
Bruce calling Dick his son and that he misses him makes me wanna cry 😭🥺
I absolutely adored this game’s version of Bruce. He really cared about his family.
Which game?
@@abdulrahimnadil5510Gotham knights
Damn this hit me in the feels. Especially if you lost a father. Miss you Dad
Omg totally. I miss my dad too
That hit me in the feels bro
I'm proud of you Dick
The Older I get the more I realize that Dick Grayson is the only true person to ever replace Bruce as Batman and even then he doesn't need to as he is still his own hero.
Quick question what happened here ? In this game what is the plot/premise ?
@@discorddiscord2647 In gotham Knights batman dies while fighting Ra's al ghul. Barbara, Jason, Tim and Grayson take over to protect gotham and solve the case about the cult of owls, that bruce was working on, while also managing a few villains storyquests. There are many things you can find, such as these audio files. The game emphazises the Batfamilies releationship and shows bruces fatherly side. For me it's a very wholesome and enjoyable experience, even if the game is quite a bit unpolished i have a lot of fun.
@@discorddiscord2647 It was that Batman's dead, and your job was to protect Gotham from some of his rouges gallery
When Bruce called Dick his son made me 😭❤, Dick grayson is Bruce's true son
Hearing Batman of all characters get sentimental in this way was really powerful didn’t fail to make me slightly emotionally. I love the story of Dick Grayson and Bruce Wayne. Props to this game for showing the tragically realistic father son relationship these two have. Bruce was a stubborn bastard but it’s easy to tell he wanted to be a good dad and loved Dick a lot.
This is the kind of heartfelt moment we could never get out of the Arkhamverse
The only time we really did was in Arkham Origins with Alfred; amazing how it was made by the same company who made this game
Arkham knight is full of heartfelt moments but ok
@@pedrobernardes98 yea but those end up being ever so bland (IMO) compared to this, they just don't hit (IMO)
@@pedrobernardes98 Yes, moments where you don’t feel anything because you felt nothing for the characters. Alfred barely had any emotion and Batman moved on from situations within two seconds. Only game with actual developed and earned heartfelt moments is Origins.
My favourite line from injustice 'dick is my son'
Injustice movie or game?
This version of Batman is amazing in everything, his emotional and human side, his suit, his voice. I wish we had a game for him.
I want the Batsuit for Dick so bad, maybe as DLC someday. As Bruce says here Dick rejects and seems to be a far cry from what Batman is but in reality Bruce wants Batman to become more like Nightwing and would gladly give him the mantle.
Agreed! I wouldn't mind if we just got a customizable Knighthood suit that you can change the Symbol to a Bat symbol and his mask to a Bat cowl. I would be satisfied with that honestly
Who else was crying during those last words.
😭😭
Was not expecting this audio log, was a very powerful one. Bruce and Dick are my favorite DC characters so I really liked this.
These logs make me want a Gotham knights prequel game with Batman as the main character.
Arkham series ?????
@@KSIDDHESH that’s not canon to Arkham knights lol
@@randomahnameisthename3147 too many dumbasses istg
@@KSIDDHESH This isn't part of the Arkham Series, Barbara is Batgirl here, instead of Oracle, but in the Arkham Series, she's Oracle because of Joker shooting her in the spine and paralyzing her from the waist down, and this happens long before Bruce "dies" in Knight.
@@starkiller6558 Okay my man, let me correct few of your "mistakes" in this comment.
First, it was hinted time and again, that this Babs was also paralyzed at some point. During that time she became Oracle. This pretty much follow it's comic books counterpart. In fact, after learning about to court of owls, she specifically said: "I was an Oracle...".
After several years of being wheelchair-bound, there was some brilliant medical treatment meant for the people like Babs(whose spine, in the LOWER BACK, was damaged and so that she lost her legs). She underwent surgery, it was success and she returned as Batgirl.
It was alluded several times through this game, that Babs was in deed in wheelchair till some point in the story(the one scene that is seared in my mind is when Babs is training with that "training dummy" and she tells Dick, that she has troubles with her LOWER BACK, which is exactly where she was shot).
I am not saying this is a sequel, i am not even saying it is the same universe as Arkham series, but it is definitely AFTER Babs was shot and "cured", not "long before".
This audio log can make a grown man like me cry it'll make you cry as well
"I'm proud of you Dick"
- Man
The bomb's payload is exposed,I can use the power winch to trigger a controlled explosion.
There are so any moments in this game that hit you right in the feels. I loved every minute of it.
Damn I just wrote something to this nature on a blog describing the Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson dynamic “People forget because of the whole Batman and Robin theme is the reason why Bruce and Dicks relationship was much deeper than the other Robins including Damian. Not cause Dick was the first, but Dick saw Bruce at growth time in his life that Bruce as Batman and Batman as Bruce had yet to truly master. Bruce gets what Grayson is going thru, they’re the same. Losing someone you love is one thing, but witnessing it takes a huge toll. The only difference, is Bruce got to Dick super early and helped him channel his anger into crime fighting. While it’s not the best therapy, it helped Grayson early in his life and he is the embodiment of what Bruce wants to be as everyday man and a crime fighter. What he truly wants Batman to symbolize!! Some people see the heir to Batman in Dick, but Bruce will one day realize that as he is the better version of all Wayne men Nightwing is the better version of The Batman. He needs Dick to be Nightwing, not Batman” Idk if I was spot on with my response
These audio logs have always been one of my favorite parts of the Batman games. My favorite has to be the Victor Zaaz audio logs from Arkham City but there are so many good ones. I love this one too.
This is so heartbreakig. Bruce is being such a proud father, Dick was really his first son 😭😭
I am not crying! You ARE!!
Bruce: I need Batman to be more like Nightwing.
Terry: Better late than never.
Conroy said it so it’s cannon.
That doesn't sound like Kevin Conroy
This isn’t Conroy
Night wing is Batman’s greatest success.
BRO!! 😭
A little too emotional imo for the Batman but this is so what is needed at the same time!
I’m not wearing glasses so I misread the title as “Batman explains how proud he is of his dick” and I’m like ?????????
It's a good thing I wasn't drinking coffee! 😆🤣
IS there a lore reason ?
@@rizonza5060Aslume
Of all the people who took up the mantle of Robin he always looked at Dick Grayson as his real son. Yeah there was time Bruce was like a horrible father and very stubborn, but he did try and be a great father figure or just straight up father to Dick. He just want the best for him more than anything. They did have their arguments and all, but who doesn’t have their arguments with their parents?? For him to finally call Dick his son was emotional in a great way, he even showed it he wish deep down he can be like Dick because of him he hold Bruce together and there was times Bruce cannot help but smile at Dick. He is the definition of Bruce’s favourite and true son🥲
Holy fuck that was pretty deep
Nightwing didn't let the darkness consume him like Batman. Batman became an agent of vengeance while Nightwing became a symbol of hope.
I always saw Dick as the next Batman growing up he's earned it sure he and Bruce had their anger issue moments but still they were so close love how Bruce call's him his son cause I also saw Dick as Bruce's son he'll never forget his real parents but Bruce did a good job raising Dick I'd say. Bruce may look really strong on the outside but as you can see here he's pretty soft on the inside he's had his moments when he can actually show his deepest emotions were we actually see him breakdown and even cry in Injustice when Dick died some fans were shocked Bruce cried and I'm like uh hello that was his son guys sure some of you may not think so but yes Dick is Bruce's oldest son Damien may be his biological son but blood doesn't matter when it comes to family can be a close friend as a brother or sister. And Dick was a good friend but more of a son to Bruce he loved Dick and probably never told him how truly proud he was of him so many words left unspoken like here in this audio recoding never said the words to Dick in person like he should have when he had the chance.
Definently the best audio log
I need to absolutely praise Michael Antonakos here. He absolutely nails the performance here he sounds destroyed and that is exactly the delivery he needed he didnt get caught up in being Batman here he just focused on a playing a father realizing how much his son mattered to him and how badly he screwed up their relationship desperately wanting a chance to see him and be close with him again
This made me think of the new injustice movie when nightwing is killed by accident by damien and bruce loses all composure and eventually breaks down with catwoman later like obviously this is from a different source but I was listening as if this was the injustice batman saying all the things he wished he could've before he died like even the last part "I'll tell him next time he's home" to me sounds like a parent would hasn't accepted their child is gone
Gotham Knights: „Batman dies and records such emotional tapes for his protégées to find. Everyone is deeply hurt with Batman‘s loss...“
Also Gotham Knights: „Hey guys! The pride parade is next week and we all have to wear rainbows then! Also, Tim Drake needs help finding Bigfoot!“
Yeah, I felt the same way. Like, great you want to add the pride stuff.. how about you save that for a posting ending of the main campaign after the final chapter with the court of owls. It's just crowbarred in and tone deaf as to the priorities of the knights after their father/uncle figure died.
@@wowthatbolivar4400 in my playthrough it did happen after the story
It's literally just a fucking email you never even have to look at.
Yeah... sounds like a game about a family
That's...actually hit in the feels...
I wish there was more to this game but goddamn they got the batfamily dynamic PERFECT. This family dynamic in the Arkham games would have made those games even better
Damn that's emotional
A rock: *press x to doubt*
Damn I’ll give the game this. Has to be one of the saddest messages from Batman. He was always proud of Dick he just could never say it to him honestly
This is so cute 😭
This game has lots of issues, it could have been more, so much better, it had lots of potential, but one thing I will say is that I can see that the developers had passion, they liked the lore of the bat family, of batman, they knew, and they did their best to deliver a good story, and I love this, I enjoyed the story, really, especially hearing these audios, listening the characters talk between each other, the family dynamic, wonderful. However, I still can't fully accept the fact that a story like this, that was meant to be played with all the bat family members together, with more lines, was instead developed as a single player run, sure they talked later, but it still missed something you know... I understand that they did it for gameplay reasons, but if they could have found a way, they made a bad call with this kind of gameplay in my opinion.
They could play chess together
Everyone here in the comments has father trauma right? Not just me?
I eat this kind of shit up!
Dick Grayson: The son who over came the trauma through the hard work Batman put him through. Finds hope. While Bruce stares into the abyss, Dick smiles at it.
Is there one where he talks about Jason?
Ye
After seeing what rocksteady did
I’m going to buy this game
At least it treats Batman with respect
And I get to play as my all time favourite character Nightwing
I don’t blame you man, it’s exactly what I did too, and honestly after ssktjl i believe i judged Gotham Knights way too hard, it’s truly not that bad, not faultless but not bad
Fuck, dude...
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Still crazy to think people battered this game for shitty gameplay, and to be fair, it was no Arkham game. But the vast majority let that get in the way of acknowledging that it had an excellent story. Every characterisation is perfect to a tee.
While this game is really crap, what they got right was the batfamily's relationship
I read one comic where dick was batman when Bruce disappeared and commissioner Gordon immediately knew that he was nightwing in that suit and Gordon said that some cops in the gcpd prefer him over bruce and I was like what 😂😂😂
Dick is 3 inches shorter and has a different voice it doesn’t take the worlds greatest detective to realize it’s a different dude
Does he have any logs about Jason? 🥺
Yes, another really good one
better than suicide squad
This game mite be mid but let it never be said it's has probably the best version of batman aside from the comics and arkham series and maybe telltale too
W
is there one about jason?
Not sure, I haven’t listened to them all yet
He prolly talks about him being his greatest failure
@@shemarregans Remember that he came back in this universe and actually got pulled away from the edge of crazy violence.
Bruce was never a adoptive father to dick and dick was never a adoptive son to Bruce what they had was real.
when dick was growing up all he wanted was to be like batman/Bruce and all Bruce wanted was for dick not to be like him
Your kinda right, when dick was growing up he wanted to be like Bruce, be THE Batman, but as he aged he saw that darkness in Bruce, what drove him and he didn’t want to be that, nor did Bruce want him to become that, he wanted to steer him in the direction to be a better man, and that’s exactly what Bruce did. While Bruce may never be dicks biological father, we all know that Bruce loves him like a father would his son. That’s the beauty of their dynamic, dick is his own man and Bruce aspires to share that light he has just like he does Superman, he may not be perfect but he tries (when the writers let him anyway)
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