Imagine being in Micah's place, locked inside a tiny room on a cold mountain, hearing gunshots and John's hoarse voice screaming his name getting closer and closer
The fact that John pretty much single handedly murdered all of Micah/Dutch's gang on the mountain before he even reached his true prime speaks volumes as to how dangerous he was
Dude takes on the Mexican and US military later on in his life and actually beats a zombie plague in an alternate universe. John is leaning towards being a force of nature rather than a person.
In a way, we start with John alone and lonely in pain in a snowy mountain to alone and lonely John rising to power peaking over another snowy mountain.
John: I ain't here for you, just Micah, so get outta my way and make it quick. Joe: You ain't getting any further than right here. John: I was kinda hoping you'd say that
@@chrisnga6910 Both sad as hell but honestly, with high honor when arthur just lays down on that rock and dies at the sunset is just so sad.. and so is john's, real sad.
This scene is so good too because the enemies you’re fighting don’t just feel like a bunch of random expendable guys, you’re just outright wiping out Dutch’s new support system
@@Herryyyynope, Dutch was gonna be betrayed and handed over to the pinkertons by Micah. It's clear when they arrived in the credits to find Micahs corpse.
They weren't going at Micah's request, they heard rumors that there had been a shootout there and went looking for clues until they arrived at Mount Hagen. Dutch, from what it seems, actually went to kill Micah, so much so that when John asks what he's doing there, Dutch replies "Same as you, I guess"
Just the epicness of the moment where John must continue on alone to avenge Arthur and every other gang member that fell due to Micahs treachery. John leaves a wounded Charles and Sadie behind, and continues for the slope only to be met by former Van der Linde prospective member, Joe and two others. Just the background music and the dialogue between the two is great, the fact that it's basically the picture for the song shows how epic of a moment it was to fans. These are the only lines that Joe ever gets in story mode (has alot of dialogue in RDR online) and to be honest with you his character didn't last long in the battle but he was a familiar face and his brief dialogue with John made the scene more epic that's for sure, wiping him out just intensified the moment for me. Accompanied by the blood curdling shouts of, "Micah!! Ive come for you!!!" The scene really was amazing But yeah the music was really for this I really wish they would turn Red Dead redemption into a TV show or something it would do amazingly I think. Personally I do not have a favorite between John or Arthur, they are both legendary characters and I possess equal respect for both men and journey's. But playing as John in this final scene it felt great 👍🏻
@@muralikrishnannair6603 both theories are possible, but I'll go with Dutch being there to kill Micah under the guise of working together. He even tells John "Same reason as you. I suppose." He walked away from him when Arthur died, he's not that dishonorable when it comes to John and Arthur; his two sons. At least in RDR2, he owed that much to Arthur. This was also him closing the book on his noble persona before becoming the man John meets in 1911.
@@zred3879 John never agreed with that mindset. It was always dutch and Arthur. Dutch betrayed that thought with Bronte, then Cornwall, then Colm. Betrayed his word and the people he said he would trust out of pure vengeance. Arthur learned to let go, and died peacefully for it, a better man than most of those he ran with. John made no promise to himself, nor his family. You can still see that spark of wild in him when sadie comes to get him for micah. He doesn't even hesitate before saddling up. And in rdr1 his vengeance cost him his family. Only by indulging in the hunt of his brothers did he get them back, as well as the US army and pinkertons. John learned from the lessons of his peers, yet the most important lesson alluded him, resulting in the gruesome early death of John Marston, and tainting of his sons heart. Vengeance is a fools game, but in the end what are we if not all fools?
@@hyndquart5241 Arthur betrayed that thought too when he helped Sadie murder a bunch of O'Driscolls out of revenge lmao. Drop the moralist revenge talk, it never holds a candle with anyone.
@@TheEmerald-pv4gn you ever wonder why you have the choice to deny her? Arthur at that point had really been through a lot. And he was really just waiting for john to leave so he could die knowing at least something was worth the years of running and crime. You can deny her, which is likely what a paragon Arthur would do. But i think Arthur is much more gray than that. He really doesn't see the odriscoll gang as people. Or humans. He learns some empathy to a degree with the one they take prisoner, then eventually adopt. But when he is killed, by his own past gang, arthur really has no sympathy for them. I think he considered the fact that Sadie would never give it up and walk away, that is was his duty to the gang and himself to protect his sister and rid the world of few more bloodthirsty bastards. Redemption isnt black and white. The first game was crazy dark sometimes, and john could be a down right asshole in cannon. Its just how you want to look at it.
@@user-wi7iy2me7yI actually think the theory of him being Cain is more likely since when you take a picture of his hut in rdr2 it’s labeled serial killer and Cain was the first murderer John also shot him 3 times and it’s said that those who try to exact vengeance on Cain will experience it back 7 fold John was shot 21 times at the end of rdr so it makes sense but also they’re never gonna give a definitive answer for it (I wouldn’t want them to anyway it’s better this way)
*Arthur hasn't bested John in the spotlight, just as John isn't better than him. Both are fantastic protagonists. This theme is so nostalgic, it sounds RDR1.*
Isn't it crazy after all that Rockstar has done for us, we still doubted that Arthur could stack up against John as a protagonist? And then there we were, watching him die to the sunset, ripping our soul apart, but we had the audacity to be surprised.
It's only worse in hindsight. I didn't pick up on the real rivalry between John & Arthur until my second play through, and it makes even more sense. Anyone who played RDR is going to be on team Marston, and probably grumpy were playing as someone else. But in the end, Arthur and John were equals. Brothers. Both got a raw deal while trying to be good men.
The story of Red Dead Redemption has to be one of the best stories ever told through a video game. Arthur lives a life of crime, Arthur dies saving John, and Arthur is Redeemed. John kills Micah, and Arthur is Avenged. John tries to run, but his old life catches up to him, John dies saving his Family, and John is Redeemed. Jack kills Ross, and John is Avenged. Red Dead Redemption is the story of human nature and the vicious cycle it creates, Death, Revenge, and Redemption...
The sad part is that in the end everything was for nothing. Like Arthur said "vengeance is an idiot's game". If John didn't kill Micah Ross wouldn't have found him. This makes Arthur's sacrifice worthless. Then John proceeds to sacrifice himself for his family but Jack took revenge on Ross making his father's sacrifice mean nothing as well. Now Jack has become what everyone who ever cared about him tried to stop him from becoming. An outlaw on the run with nothing to live for.
@@evildorito I never even realized that, They made their sacrifices so the ones they died for could live out their lives in peace, but the ones who remained thought that if they did nothing then the sacrifice would be in vain, so they took action making the sacrifice itself in vain.
@Joske Vermeulen Rdr1 has: more dynamic ragdoll physics More fun and consistent shooting mechanics Infinite bounties/duels/random events A more western feel a hardcore mode Undead nightmare I love RDR2, but saying it does *everything* better than rdr1 is objectively false.
some people dont notice how much john went through, he got shot in the blackwater massacre, he was mauled by wolves, he was shot on the train robbery and left behind and walked from one state to another with a wound in his hip, got shot over 20 times in the end of rdr1 and was alive until he bled out, he was one stronger dangerous outlaw
I mean John died an extremely brutal death, but Arthur had to put up with his lungs being destroyed from inside him, his father figure betraying him, all of this being out of his control
@@RobertBelko Yeah I agree. I feel the Arthur part more like a tragic story about a man trying to be good but he has to do bad things becasue he doesnt know better. And the Marston part is more like the journey of a lonely man trying to put back his life whit his family but cant let go of all the pain and guilt from the past. John Marston is what Arthur Morgan would be if he could have escape from that outlaw life whit Mary Linton. (In my opinion)
@@TheMetroidex John Marston trying to be good, but ending up doing bad things because he doesn't know better? I think I agree with that. John's story is a lonely man's journey trying to put back his life with his family but can't let go of all the pain and guilt from the past? I think I agree with that too. I especially feel, that he can't express himself correctly to people sometimes. I feel he could've expressed his feelings with Abigail better when she was mad at him in Jim Milton Rides Again for saving those cattle. I guess he should've expressed his emotions about the past, and not bury it. John Marston is what Arthur Morgan would be if Arthur could escape with Mary, okay. I don't think I agree with that. I won't and I probably can't tell you how it would differ, but I feel Arthur's story with Mary would differ from John's, because they're different people and therefore they would end up in different interactions with the world? Something like that.
@@RobertBelko I get your point, I didn’t mean that Arthur would do the same things that John did. What I meant was that if Arthur escaped whit Mary he would end up very similar to John, I mean he had a 5K reward in his head and I dont bealive that the Pinkertons would let Arthur escape that easily (I say that because we all know what happend to John in RDR).
@@TheMetroidex You didn't mean Arthur and John would do the same things, okay. I can imagine I frustrated you with that, sorry about that. You predict that Arthur's story escaping with Mary would be somewhat close to John's, because both of them have money on their heads and are wanted by the Pinkertons, if I understand correctly. I agree that that's how the story could go, it is a good and reasonable prediction. Though, I imagine Arthur's story with Mary could go any direction compared to John's. I think it all depends on how anyone would like the story to go.
Today April 17, 2022 I finished Red Dead Redemption 2 and I must say it was a insane game with endless details and great characters. Arthur Morgan a character I got so attached…and will forever be in my heart and soul. Playing as John Marston seeing him grow as a character and as a husband and father just left me speechless. When this song was playing on the mountains I felt like a badass and all I had in my mind was “this is for Arthur”. RDR1 is definitely my next game for me to explore!
Arthur’s Character arc is emotional and human, filled with the struggles of morality and how to deal with his impending doom John’s character arc is just simply becoming the baddest ass gunslinger in the whole west. This is the song that solidifies that transition.
John Marston is the chillest dude in history. He literally didn't give one fuck to a zombie apocalypse, and simply faced death like a chad. This song only plays when he actually gets angry.
John Marston Theme just captures that theme of the looming dread and death coming your way. An unstoppable warrior ready to fight, at any given moment. All for one thing. Freedom.
John Marston remains as the best gunslinger in RD storyline, Arthur was his brother and mentor - giving John the chance to become who he became - the man who gunned down an entitely new Dutch crew. Twice.
If I was Micah, the thing I'd be most terrified of is Arthur's hat. Seeing John wearing it would mean that he hasn't let go of what I did to the gang for an entire century. The memories, rage, and honor flowing through that hat all at the same time. Seeing the bodies of my gang falling into the snow before it. Absolutely bone-chillingly horrifying.
Is what John is really about. He's a guy who does his best to be a nice guy but there is a unforgiving croner inside of him that can spread like wildfire once he ignites it. On this mission,the flames were burning white hot.
I feel that this song transmits several emotions including anger, adrenaline, maybe a little sadness but above all that thirst for revenge that can only be quenched with the death of a single person.
John was the spirit of the whole gang in that point, he came there all the rest and loyal ones, but at the end, like Arthur before him, he had to face it alone, surrounded by rats, suffered many things, but endured, still wild as hell, sharp and deadly, breathing fire in anger and burning everything he sees. He was the embodiment of Arthur and Josea and all their values, he was their son. Even fallen Dutch has returned at the last chapter.
In the original RDR I walked into thieves landing and started getting shot at and all john said was, “guess someone doesn’t like me too much” What a badass
Imagine being John though, you stand there in front of these three guys, and all of a sudden this music plays in your head. You're not surprised, you knew this moment was coming and you prepared for it. You in your head gently tell the music to take a backseat while you go and rip each one of these men from the inside out. That's what made me feel this was when listening to this. Absolutely magnificent.
@@arsnau8997 I don't really compare rdr2 to the last of us 2 because in the end ellie doesn't even get her revenge meaning all of those deaths both sides caused were for nothing. In red dead redemption 2 however, John Marston was the perfect foreshadowing since the entire game everyone calls him an idiot.
The sheer power underlining *Yeah, just me" is as utterly badass as the song Basically implying: Yeah, no nagging wife, son holding my hand, dutch brainwashing me, wolves eating me, just me and vengeance
Imo it's a symbolisation of him being the last true cowboy of the wild west. I feel like that's what the game's about basically. A new world closing in on the old.
John 'Deadeye' Marston, The Legend of the West. My favorite Rockstar character and all around badass. Edit: Man, when I made this awhile back I just wanted to comment on a music video dedicated to one of my fav game protags. I didn't think every Arthur simp and contrarian in the RDR community would piss and shit themselves over it smh.
It could be just me but John's silhouette in this image also looks a lot like Jack's, which I find a very nice touch, since he also had his own little American Venom
This should been the mission where all rdr movements kick in The one hand shooting his iconic walk as soon as you get up that mountain You are officially JOHN MARSTON
Rip Van Winkle Jim Milton Mr. Marston Mr. Milton The Rock Farmer The Myth The Undead Cowboy The Family Man The Cowboy The Gunslinger Scarface Greasy Oily The Saviour The Farmer The Farmhand The Rancher The Hunter The Father The Brother The Wolf Man The Husband The Killer The Married Man The Friend The Bastard The Dumbass The Idiot The Fool The Bounty Hunter The Outlaw The Law The Puto The Arrogant Son Of A Btch The Original The Badass The Guy From Fort Mercer And The One And Only The Legend himself, John Marston
This perfectly encapsulates John Marston, a man on a mission to try and put his past behind him and move into the future with his family... even if in the end it was ultimately pointless. Rdr2 was the story of a dying west and a man's quest to save the ones he loved and redeem himself and forgive himself. The slow realization that hes living in a world where outlaws are no longer welcome, where his gang is truly dying. Arthur soughy to save as many people as he could before the hand of death came for them all Rdr1 was a story about an already dead west and a man's mission, to put his past behind him and to save the ones he loved. Sure its called red dead redeption, but I argue that John didn't seek redemption... just security in knowing he would bury the past, even if he would be buried with it, thats why he's so accepting when the moment comes for him to die Arthur was always a cowboy and an outlaw But through to 1911 John was truly the last cowboy.
"John didn't seek redemption, just security in knowing he would be burying his past, even if he had to be buried with it" That's gotta be the coldest line delivered about a character. Well said sir
I swear, while reading your comment, I hummed that Tabletop Rdr2 ending-credits theme. (the sad joint that played as Tilly was walking with her husband to the trolley) 😭
I'm just imagining that this song plays whenever something is REALLY stacked up against your favor, and instead of buckling under and admitting defeat, you just smile and say, "I don't care what happens after this. Whether it is good or bad, I need to keep going until either I'm dead or I succeed in my goal. I'm not leaving until one of those two things happen."
I can picture Clint Eastwood saying something like "I'm either leaving in a hearse or they are" then tipping off his hat, putting his signature smirk and going in guns blazing!!!
I know I’m late but I just finished the game today and I can’t stop listening to this. It honestly sounds like a mix of a bunch of different things that I like. I’ve never played red dead one because my parents said I couldn’t when I was little, but given the prequel came out after this makes me want to play it even more.
I actually finished Rdr2 a few months ago. Been obsessed ever since. Took me years to actually finish the game. Because data was erased when I was like three mission from the end. It’s such a good game. I hadn’t played Rdr1, but don’t think of it as missing out on it. It’s just following the story chronologically. I’ve been slowly playing through the first game. It’s also incredibly good!
The man is capable of killing an army of outlaws solely to reach one man for vengeance, but he decides to abandon his nature to have a peaceful life with his wife and child. I think it's the main reason why John is my favorite character in gaming
Arthur is better as his life ultimately ended in such a terrible and brutal way but he not only saved John, he also saved many people from Dutch's loss of sanity/mental decline and Micah's hellish destruction of a once prosperous family unit
@@RPR1767 There is no "better" protagonist, both lived a life of crime, and in the end, redeemed themselves. John arguably had a more brutal death being shot 20+ times and then bleeding out
I don't think Abigail ever truly appreciated how much of a complete bad ass her husband really was. lol. I recently did an episodic walkthrough of RDR1 and I couldn't stop thinking that during their interactions. lol
@@nonameman7114 but still we gotta do what we gotta do, even when we are not aprecciated or recognized by that, because do our share is our responsibility and it's what makes us man
@@huntertierney5495 Yeah but even when he was helping people, or protecting her and Jack she'd still give him shit. As if he should just stand there and let them all die. The only time I didn't see this was at the end of RDR1.
@@Zee-Core-Gaming Abigail was thinking about Jack's safety and her own, John's priority should have been to keep them safe, not get himself into trouble. Yeah saving people is good, but two things: it wasn't John's business to do that, he wasn't the law nor was he employed to do that, his business was to provide for his family. By getting into fights he put himself at risk (and by extension, his family) and he made himself more visible to the law. He's still a wanted man. Let's not forget that at the very start of the epilogue they are still on the move because John killed some guy. And secondly, Abigail knew John was a troublemaker, and she wasn't there to see when he was only defending himself or other people, so she only had his word to go on, and past experiences. You could understand why she was skeptical about his excuses. TL;DR: No good saving strangers if you ruin your family in the process.
Arthur Morgan: Legend of the East
John Marston: Legend of the West
Ironic part is that u cant the legend of the east outfit as arthur bc of 3 herbs.
@Croizzants Are great XD
Red Harlow:Legend of United States!!
it was never about the moneh!!
@Mauro 908 nah legend of Tahiti
200th like!
Imagine being in Micah's place, locked inside a tiny room on a cold mountain, hearing gunshots and John's hoarse voice screaming his name getting closer and closer
underrated comment
Omfg
Yeah and unknowning of dutches intentions of killing you
POV: You are Micah
(in a cabin)
(14 gunshots)
("IT'S JOHN MARSTON, MICAH!" in the distance)
Micah is so trash.... That's his place... He can't shoot he can't plan he can't think straight....
Just utter garbage
The fact that John pretty much single handedly murdered all of Micah/Dutch's gang on the mountain before he even reached his true prime speaks volumes as to how dangerous he was
You hear gunshots and see your men die slowly hearing John’s voice getting closer and closer. Man, I’d shit my pants If I were Micah.
It’s why he was Dutch’s favorite. He had the most potential.
Dude takes on the Mexican and US military later on in his life and actually beats a zombie plague in an alternate universe. John is leaning towards being a force of nature rather than a person.
And Landon ricketts called him shit 😂😂😂
@@andrewhate5925 Landon Ricketts would say that to anybody 💀
It felt like the whole franchise was built for this moment. The pinnacle of badassery.
In a way, we start with John alone and lonely in pain in a snowy mountain to alone and lonely John rising to power peaking over another snowy mountain.
@@TOT777SOS there’s a lot of symmetry like that in RDR, Jack meeting Ross by a river and leaving him by a river is another one.
@@TOT777SOS both mountains are mt. hagen, aren't they?
@@desura5417 they're not, but in the first train robbery of the game you see mount hagen in the distance
The last mission of rdr2 (American venom) is the grand finale for the Red dead series. 👍
-Dad why is my sister named rose?
-Because your mother loves roses
-Thanks dad
-no problem ultimate john marston theme
-no problem, john marston
No problem rip van winkle
Dad, why am I called Micah?
Because your mother loves rats.
Thanks dad ...
Okay, I'll catch you later then!
-No problem Arthur Morgan
no problem tacitus kilgore
God the quote:
“Just you left is it?”
“Yeah...just me”
John: I ain't here for you, just Micah, so get outta my way and make it quick.
Joe: You ain't getting any further than right here.
John: I was kinda hoping you'd say that
The first ten seconds of this also plays when:
-Abigail! Its over!"
*hugs*
he never had much of a way with words
Never say the lord your God name in vain
it was joe! we gotta be close
Johns story in rdr2 goes full circle. He starts as prey on top of a snowy mountain, and ends a predator on a snowy mountain hunting down Micah.
REAL
That’s actually really funny 😂
He ends as a predator hunting Dutch on a snowy mountain in rdr1 too
10/10 excellent dramaturgical take away
Oftentimes life may seem like a circle, when in reality it is a helix
And then ends as prey to ross
The fear in micah as he sees a figure with arthurs hat killing all of his men as he climbs up the mountain must be paramount
That pun was incredible and I love you
Paramount holy shit well done
@@merchkerns I don't get it. Please could you elaborate?
@@rawadosa90210 paramount studios, their logo is a mountain
@@gobgaming2725 Nice one, thanks!
In Rdr1 you get to experience what’s it’s like being a lawman, in rdr2 you get to experience being an outlaw.
Both are awesome games. Sadly, our lovable protagonists die in the end 😔
@@HarlowSchmarlow Arthur’s death was heartbreaking, I couldn’t stop crying for 2 whole minutes
@ᴍᴇᴛᴢɢᴇʀᴍᴇɪᴤᴛᴇʀ Johns death in rdr1 for me was more upsetting (in an angry way) and wanting vengeance.
@@earlysteven123 John death was more sad for me as well
@@chrisnga6910 Both sad as hell but honestly, with high honor when arthur just lays down on that rock and dies at the sunset is just so sad.. and so is john's, real sad.
“We’re you ever a.. g-gunslinger mister?”
“..a gunslinger? *fake laugh* course not.”
Both Arthur and John were both gunslingers and most likely won every duel and every match.
@@OnlinePickle well you cant really lose more than once in a stand off
@Acriferro Just a ranch hand then?
@@xXGenericSpyMainXx facts
Heh heh hwa no = gunslinger laugh
the unholy levels of confidence in that delivery of "yeah...just me."
What a legend.
What game is this?
@@breno79gta v
@@breno79seriously? It's red dead redemption 2
@@aclosedanddiscontinuedchan124no, it's GTA SA
John and Arthur are the embodiments of utter gallantry
This scene is so good too because the enemies you’re fighting don’t just feel like a bunch of random expendable guys, you’re just outright wiping out Dutch’s new support system
Micahs support system. Dutch came to kill micah aswell
@@Herryyyynope, Dutch was gonna be betrayed and handed over to the pinkertons by Micah. It's clear when they arrived in the credits to find Micahs corpse.
They weren't going at Micah's request, they heard rumors that there had been a shootout there and went looking for clues until they arrived at Mount Hagen. Dutch, from what it seems, actually went to kill Micah, so much so that when John asks what he's doing there, Dutch replies "Same as you, I guess"
Just the epicness of the moment where John must continue on alone to avenge Arthur and every other gang member that fell due to Micahs treachery. John leaves a wounded Charles and Sadie behind, and continues for the slope only to be met by former Van der Linde prospective member, Joe and two others. Just the background music and the dialogue between the two is great, the fact that it's basically the picture for the song shows how epic of a moment it was to fans. These are the only lines that Joe ever gets in story mode (has alot of dialogue in RDR online) and to be honest with you his character didn't last long in the battle but he was a familiar face and his brief dialogue with John made the scene more epic that's for sure, wiping him out just intensified the moment for me. Accompanied by the blood curdling shouts of, "Micah!! Ive come for you!!!" The scene really was amazing But yeah the music was really for this I really wish they would turn Red Dead redemption into a TV show or something it would do amazingly I think. Personally I do not have a favorite between John or Arthur, they are both legendary characters and I possess equal respect for both men and journey's. But playing as John in this final scene it felt great 👍🏻
@@muralikrishnannair6603 both theories are possible, but I'll go with Dutch being there to kill Micah under the guise of working together. He even tells John "Same reason as you. I suppose." He walked away from him when Arthur died, he's not that dishonorable when it comes to John and Arthur; his two sons. At least in RDR2, he owed that much to Arthur. This was also him closing the book on his noble persona before becoming the man John meets in 1911.
When the Venom isn't American enough, you play this.
Heck yes
True XD
Shut up fly catcher
I feel like I can kick anyone's ass if I heard this beforehand.
@Portae Inferi please be courteous to the help. We’ve run out.
When you decide to wreck a small militia out of revenge for your fallen brother
Thats bout every wendsday
And to think he said revenge is a fools game
@@zred3879 John never agreed with that mindset. It was always dutch and Arthur. Dutch betrayed that thought with Bronte, then Cornwall, then Colm. Betrayed his word and the people he said he would trust out of pure vengeance. Arthur learned to let go, and died peacefully for it, a better man than most of those he ran with. John made no promise to himself, nor his family. You can still see that spark of wild in him when sadie comes to get him for micah. He doesn't even hesitate before saddling up. And in rdr1 his vengeance cost him his family. Only by indulging in the hunt of his brothers did he get them back, as well as the US army and pinkertons. John learned from the lessons of his peers, yet the most important lesson alluded him, resulting in the gruesome early death of John Marston, and tainting of his sons heart. Vengeance is a fools game, but in the end what are we if not all fools?
@@hyndquart5241 Arthur betrayed that thought too when he helped Sadie murder a bunch of O'Driscolls out of revenge lmao. Drop the moralist revenge talk, it never holds a candle with anyone.
@@TheEmerald-pv4gn you ever wonder why you have the choice to deny her? Arthur at that point had really been through a lot. And he was really just waiting for john to leave so he could die knowing at least something was worth the years of running and crime. You can deny her, which is likely what a paragon Arthur would do. But i think Arthur is much more gray than that. He really doesn't see the odriscoll gang as people. Or humans. He learns some empathy to a degree with the one they take prisoner, then eventually adopt. But when he is killed, by his own past gang, arthur really has no sympathy for them. I think he considered the fact that Sadie would never give it up and walk away, that is was his duty to the gang and himself to protect his sister and rid the world of few more bloodthirsty bastards. Redemption isnt black and white. The first game was crazy dark sometimes, and john could be a down right asshole in cannon. Its just how you want to look at it.
He had a conversation with literal Death himself, pulled a gun and shot at Death on the very place he would be buried. Yeah. Certified badass.
Ikr 😳
I ain’t gonna contest ur theory that the strange man is death, but bruh, John is badass af
yeah strange man is definetly fucking death
@@user-wi7iy2me7yI actually think the theory of him being Cain is more likely since when you take a picture of his hut in rdr2 it’s labeled serial killer and Cain was the first murderer
John also shot him 3 times and it’s said that those who try to exact vengeance on Cain will experience it back 7 fold
John was shot 21 times at the end of rdr so it makes sense but also they’re never gonna give a definitive answer for it (I wouldn’t want them to anyway it’s better this way)
@@firebrand4074 when did he shoot cain
*Arthur hasn't bested John in the spotlight, just as John isn't better than him. Both are fantastic protagonists. This theme is so nostalgic, it sounds RDR1.*
Isn't it crazy after all that Rockstar has done for us, we still doubted that Arthur could stack up against John as a protagonist? And then there we were, watching him die to the sunset, ripping our soul apart, but we had the audacity to be surprised.
It's only worse in hindsight. I didn't pick up on the real rivalry between John & Arthur until my second play through, and it makes even more sense. Anyone who played RDR is going to be on team Marston, and probably grumpy were playing as someone else. But in the end, Arthur and John were equals. Brothers. Both got a raw deal while trying to be good men.
@@DieselDog403 Exactly
the good: Arthur Morgan
the bad: Dutch Van Der Linde
the ugly: Micah Bell
The Bad: Arthur Morgan
The Ugly: Arthur Morgan
The Good: Arthur Morgan
The world: Dio
@@thatquietasianguy9582 Lmao
The good: Arthur
The bad: Micah
The Father: Hosea
The son: John
The holy spirit: Mac
The ugly: Uncle
The Lumbago: Uncle
I love how even the artist agreed that John should be wearing Arthur’s hat for American venom.
Yep
The game changes to that outfit whenever you arrive at the mountain in the last mission but yeah
Punished "Venom" Marston, a man without a gang
As it always should be. I even killed Micah with Arthur’s volcanic pistol
@@jacobramirez8753 I had my own custom scholfields like dutch and micha as arthur so I used those
The story of Red Dead Redemption has to be one of the best stories ever told through a video game.
Arthur lives a life of crime,
Arthur dies saving John, and Arthur is Redeemed.
John kills Micah, and Arthur is Avenged.
John tries to run, but his old life catches up to him,
John dies saving his Family, and John is Redeemed.
Jack kills Ross, and John is Avenged.
Red Dead Redemption is the story of human nature and the vicious cycle it creates,
Death, Revenge, and Redemption...
Jack was never redeemed
for now
@@Vengeance1996 who knows
The sad part is that in the end everything was for nothing. Like Arthur said "vengeance is an idiot's game". If John didn't kill Micah Ross wouldn't have found him. This makes Arthur's sacrifice worthless. Then John proceeds to sacrifice himself for his family but Jack took revenge on Ross making his father's sacrifice mean nothing as well. Now Jack has become what everyone who ever cared about him tried to stop him from becoming. An outlaw on the run with nothing to live for.
@@evildorito I never even realized that, They made their sacrifices so the ones they died for could live out their lives in peace, but the ones who remained thought that if they did nothing then the sacrifice would be in vain, so they took action making the sacrifice itself in vain.
I love how they added bits of music from the first game to this song to prove that John is becoming the man we see in the first game
General Kenobi
You are a bold one
This makes American Venom look like Canadian Venom
Underrated comment.
california venome*
Mèxico Venom.
Gross
Its the "Bad father venom"
The 9 dislikes is because they couldn’t play RDR1 and see how gangster John was
For real, rdr1 john makes rdr2 john look like a nursemaid.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef fr
@Joske Vermeulen yes but there are some things like the bounties that are infinite in rdr1
@Joske Vermeulen I can still have fun and I'm even trying to make it 100% I'm 97.9% complete
@Joske Vermeulen Rdr1 has:
more dynamic ragdoll physics
More fun and consistent shooting mechanics
Infinite bounties/duels/random events
A more western feel
a hardcore mode
Undead nightmare
I love RDR2, but saying it does *everything* better than rdr1 is objectively false.
some people dont notice how much john went through, he got shot in the blackwater massacre, he was mauled by wolves, he was shot on the train robbery and left behind and walked from one state to another with a wound in his hip, got shot over 20 times in the end of rdr1 and was alive until he bled out, he was one stronger dangerous outlaw
You forgot the monster bear
@@Cat-uv7dy from rdr1?
I mean John died an extremely brutal death, but Arthur had to put up with his lungs being destroyed from inside him, his father figure betraying him, all of this being out of his control
@@BabbelHnah that one bounty Hunter mission with Sadie, I’m not sure if it’s scripted to happen 100% but John gets mauled by a bear and shrugs it off.
"just you left, is it?" "yeah, just me." absolutely badass.
It’s hard to think that the missions in colter and American venom are the same game
I think Arthur Morgan's part of the game and John Marston's are very different in feel, too.
@@RobertBelko Yeah I agree. I feel the Arthur part more like a tragic story about a man trying to be good but he has to do bad things becasue he doesnt know better.
And the Marston part is more like the journey of a lonely man trying to put back his life whit his family but cant let go of all the pain and guilt from the past.
John Marston is what Arthur Morgan would be if he could have escape from that outlaw life whit Mary Linton. (In my opinion)
@@TheMetroidex John Marston trying to be good, but ending up doing bad things because he doesn't know better? I think I agree with that.
John's story is a lonely man's journey trying to put back his life with his family but can't let go of all the pain and guilt from the past? I think I agree with that too. I especially feel, that he can't express himself correctly to people sometimes. I feel he could've expressed his feelings with Abigail better when she was mad at him in Jim Milton Rides Again for saving those cattle. I guess he should've expressed his emotions about the past, and not bury it.
John Marston is what Arthur Morgan would be if Arthur could escape with Mary, okay. I don't think I agree with that. I won't and I probably can't tell you how it would differ, but I feel Arthur's story with Mary would differ from John's, because they're different people and therefore they would end up in different interactions with the world? Something like that.
@@RobertBelko I get your point, I didn’t mean that Arthur would do the same things that John did. What I meant was that if Arthur escaped whit Mary he would end up very similar to John, I mean he had a 5K reward in his head and I dont bealive that the Pinkertons would let Arthur escape that easily (I say that because we all know what happend to John in RDR).
@@TheMetroidex You didn't mean Arthur and John would do the same things, okay. I can imagine I frustrated you with that, sorry about that. You predict that Arthur's story escaping with Mary would be somewhat close to John's, because both of them have money on their heads and are wanted by the Pinkertons, if I understand correctly. I agree that that's how the story could go, it is a good and reasonable prediction. Though, I imagine Arthur's story with Mary could go any direction compared to John's. I think it all depends on how anyone would like the story to go.
"IT'S JOHN MARSTON MICAH!"
"MICAH BELL, I'M JUST HERE FOR MICAH BELL!"
"YOU'RE RIDING WITH A TURNCOAT!"
Is it just me or did anyone get upset when author died
@@chrishill5930 who's Author?
“IM JUST HERE FOR MICAH BELL!”
“IF YOU’RE RIDING WITH MICAH BELL YOU’RE GETTING A BULLET!”
“MICAH? MICAH?! SHIT! MICAH!”
@@themandalorian2498 Author
@@ashwinsnair4635 arthur
Today April 17, 2022 I finished Red Dead Redemption 2 and I must say it was a insane game with endless details and great characters. Arthur Morgan a character I got so attached…and will forever be in my heart and soul. Playing as John Marston seeing him grow as a character and as a husband and father just left me speechless. When this song was playing on the mountains I felt like a badass and all I had in my mind was “this is for Arthur”. RDR1 is definitely my next game for me to explore!
Happy near anniversary bro
How was red dead 1
Everything that happened in RDR1 would not be possible if Arthur didnt make his heroic sacrifice for John in the mission Red Dead Redemption
@@RPR1767John gets away no matter what ending you choose (going for money or helping him escape)
Arthur’s Character arc is emotional and human, filled with the struggles of morality and how to deal with his impending doom
John’s character arc is just simply becoming the baddest ass gunslinger in the whole west.
This is the song that solidifies that transition.
One of my favorite themes in video game history.
This one and the one in ‘Jim Milton rides again’
One of the best moments in video game history
Doom eternal halo and rdr2 have the three best sound tracks ever. Undertale and minecraft can die in a hole.
@@tobyjohn4682 don’t forget Skyrim and the FF series.
@@Felgruf they might be good but they're not replacing my top 3.
John Marston is the chillest dude in history. He literally didn't give one fuck to a zombie apocalypse, and simply faced death like a chad. This song only plays when he actually gets angry.
Fr man opened a door and was standing in front like 30 guards and still drew his pistol out and took 20 shots and was still breathing for a while
Finally someone remembered Undead Nightmare
@@gmxgaming2024 Only the OG's remember undead nightmare
@@H.Cat725 I have the game rn
@@ayalacaleb79 Fr i shot 15 motherfuckers outside that barn with his mauser
When you decide to hunt down a legendary rat
💀
John Marston Theme just captures that theme of the looming dread and death coming your way. An unstoppable warrior ready to fight, at any given moment. All for one thing. Freedom.
"Holy hell! Nice shot Milton!"
"Did you see that?! How is he doing it?!"
"Where did you learn to shoot like that, Jim?"
*In the back of John's head* "That's a looong story partner...."
It may sound absurd, but I think Jim Milton looks a lot like Rip Van Winkle.
That shit only fueled me to be more ballsy. I think I only took cover to reload if I am correct
@@dutchvanderlinde3602 nah you're crazy
@@dutchvanderlinde3602 you just hit your head Dutch. Back at that trolley in Saint Denis
Micah whilst sat in the cabin: “Where the hell is that music coming from?”
Underated comment
Even though this music makes me a bit emotional, u managed to make me laugh
John Marston outside the cabin: *The boss music bitch*
Vietnam draft
micah: why am i hearing a boss music ?
How do you deal with rats?
Google: leave out food laced with rat poison, call an exterminator
Bing:
Underrated comment
Rockstar is one of the few studios that never disappointed on the main game cause they do their job to the end
*1 vs 5*
The enemy team: "Just you left, is it?"
Me: "Yeah just me."
Rainbow Six Siege possibly?
@@nuv2987 Yup lol
@@vaxores Hehe yeah. That’s how it feels.
@@nuv2987 It's really satisfying when you clutch and impressed your friends :]
@@vaxores Best thing ever.
I love how Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 ends with a revenge, it says so much about human nature
you can't fight nature.
you cant fight change
@@outerheavens you can't fight gravity
@@jamesmetcalfe9774 all my life, all I ever did was fight
God I love this community.
Arthur is great, but John Marston is the man.
*Blessed are the peacemakers*
RDR 2 is a masterpiece. The gameplay, the graphics, the heart touching story, and most importantly, the score, it’s just unbelievable.
Just wish my grandpa was still alive to see this game, he was a big fan of western films-games, hope he is doing well in heaven
I’m sorry to hear that. I’m sure he can see you playing the game.
I can assure you that your grandpa is up in the heavens riding a long the sky
Grandpa is probably hunting down outlaws in heaven RIP
He's with ynneL, Scarface and Blacklung,
@@danthemanplays nah. He was playing it
John Marston: Legend of the West
Arthur Morgan: Legend of the East
Sadie Adler: Legend of the South
Charles Smith: Legend of the North
Dutch: Legend Of The Lost
Micah: Legend Of The Damned
@@kden2925 Micah: Legend of the Rat
@@Comic.Sans1997 My man speaking facts
Ultimate comment
@@kden2925 ultimate reply
John Marston remains as the best gunslinger in RD storyline, Arthur was his brother and mentor - giving John the chance to become who he became - the man who gunned down an entitely new Dutch crew. Twice.
Not his mentor. Just his brother. Dutch is his mentor, he says it himself
If I was Micah, the thing I'd be most terrified of is Arthur's hat. Seeing John wearing it would mean that he hasn't let go of what I did to the gang for an entire century. The memories, rage, and honor flowing through that hat all at the same time. Seeing the bodies of my gang falling into the snow before it. Absolutely bone-chillingly horrifying.
Bro this game is literally perfect
Well not perfect but nearing it yes
Few things I’m sure a few of us could point out. But yes I must admit.. this game is Absolutely brilliant and cannot wait for more!!
@@texaspoontappa1956 Too bad Red Dead Redemption 3 will release the same year GTA 6 will come out, which is probably like 2060 😔😔😔
@@synical_zero0003 If idiots stop buying shark cards we might get a new game in a few years
@@jimmyhopkins1 Are you implying that it would be better to get a rushed game than a game that has been worked on for years?
The 3 dislike are Micah,Joe and Cleet.
Ross and his alt accounts
who is 4th
@@cordobruh4319 Me
@@cordobruh4319 And you Dutch against me?
@@cordobruh4319 Dutch on a bad day
You know Micah was shitting himself when he heard “IT’S JOHN MARSTON MICAH!”
Micah:🥶🥶🥶💀💀💀💩💩💩 John: 🤠🤠🤠😼😼😼👉💥
Makes me want to grind through the entirety of Rdr2 again just too experience this moment again.
That theme really defines John Marston
Is what John is really about. He's a guy who does his best to be a nice guy but there is a unforgiving croner inside of him that can spread like wildfire once he ignites it. On this mission,the flames were burning white hot.
It’s the mission where he finally ends the life of a hated enemy, in the most badass way, so yea.
Imagine being in a cabin hiding and then you hear this song like 40 feet away. Must be pretty scary
And hearing John scream your name with pure angry murderous intent.
Lmao I like the thought that the red dead protagonists constantly have music playing around them that everyone can hear.
they cant hear the music
@@d3f7lt36then how come we can hear the music????? explain dat bitch
No shit sherlock
American Venom is the most badass soundtrack ever exist 🔥
I feel that this song transmits several emotions including anger, adrenaline, maybe a little sadness but above all that thirst for revenge that can only be quenched with the death of a single person.
Mom: Your little cousins are over, go say hi!
Me: Oh where are they?
Mom: They’re just on your Xbox in there.
Me:
How does this not have more likes and no comments
_minutes later_
"Honey where'd your cousins go?"
I hate when people think they have the right away onto your console but funny ass comment
This got me rolling 😭🤣
so accurate and reliable, thankfully I have a PC and that problem is non-existent anymore
From Rip Van Winkle to John Marston.
@Bob Ross AMOGUS
@Bob Ross Amogus
Jim Milton
John was the spirit of the whole gang in that point, he came there all the rest and loyal ones, but at the end, like Arthur before him, he had to face it alone, surrounded by rats, suffered many things, but endured, still wild as hell, sharp and deadly, breathing fire in anger and burning everything he sees. He was the embodiment of Arthur and Josea and all their values, he was their son. Even fallen Dutch has returned at the last chapter.
-Look who it is, ain't you got a habit of just showing up
-Where I got something to take care of sure
-Just you left is it?
-Yeah... Just me
Joe: we have you three against one
Marston: I like those odds
whos joe
@@lancevancebaby4987 Joe mama
it's called mathematical paradox.
@@sansguerra2265 STOP, YOU VIOLATED THE LAW
In the original RDR I walked into thieves landing and started getting shot at and all john said was, “guess someone doesn’t like me too much”
What a badass
Hey, what's the context?
Please reply?
@@TheFunnyDictatorhe walked into thieves landing
@@Deathworm-eg5lt What's Thieves Landing?
@@Deathworm-eg5lt Also, is your profile picture an octopus entering a toilet?!
0:00 through 1:03 is so intense the build up is insane I love that and the entire song! Brings back Clint Eastwood vibes tbh.
Imagine being John though, you stand there in front of these three guys, and all of a sudden this music plays in your head. You're not surprised, you knew this moment was coming and you prepared for it. You in your head gently tell the music to take a backseat while you go and rip each one of these men from the inside out. That's what made me feel this was when listening to this. Absolutely magnificent.
"Revenge is a fool's game"- Arthur Morgan
Going by Abigail’s assessment, Johns the biggest fool of them all
@Cantu Sardar always the possibility that was intended foreshadowing
Sometimes there's exceptions like for killing joel or arthur
@@arsnau8997 I don't really compare rdr2 to the last of us 2 because in the end ellie doesn't even get her revenge meaning all of those deaths both sides caused were for nothing.
In red dead redemption 2 however, John Marston was the perfect foreshadowing since the entire game everyone calls him an idiot.
@@j.t.1280 sorry still crying that joel died
00:28-00:34 Man, RDR1 Mission Complete Theme vibes, so epic and nostalgic, glory to the Legendary John Marston!!
Yes
Who is this ‘John Marston’ you speak of? His name is rip van winkle!
@@sausage6136 no it's jim milton
The sheer power underlining *Yeah, just me" is as utterly badass as the song
Basically implying:
Yeah, no nagging wife, son holding my hand, dutch brainwashing me, wolves eating me, just me and vengeance
No arthur mocking my inability to swim
Imo it's a symbolisation of him being the last true cowboy of the wild west. I feel like that's what the game's about basically. A new world closing in on the old.
nothing is stopping me from calling my children John and Arthur
Except your S.O. maybe
This very mission is what defined Marston and showed the true bad ass we all know and love
John 'Deadeye' Marston, The Legend of the West. My favorite Rockstar character and all around badass.
Edit: Man, when I made this awhile back I just wanted to comment on a music video dedicated to one of my fav game protags. I didn't think every Arthur simp and contrarian in the RDR community would piss and shit themselves over it smh.
I agree
Same bro, I love Arthur but John is something else.
@@miguelcarrasco1305 we wouldn’t have the badass that John is if it wasn’t for Arthur
@@viciousrage5548 You're probably one of the weebs who played rdr2 first.
In case you didnt notice John Marston is the legend of the West while Arthur Morgan is the legend of the East. Both is a legendary character
It could be just me but John's silhouette in this image also looks a lot like Jack's, which I find a very nice touch, since he also had his own little American Venom
This should been the mission where all rdr movements kick in
The one hand shooting his iconic walk as soon as you get up that mountain
You are officially JOHN MARSTON
Rip Van Winkle
Jim Milton
Mr. Marston
Mr. Milton
The Rock Farmer
The Myth
The Undead Cowboy
The Family Man
The Cowboy
The Gunslinger
Scarface
Greasy
Oily
The Saviour
The Farmer
The Farmhand
The Rancher
The Hunter
The Father
The Brother
The Wolf Man
The Husband
The Killer
The Married Man
The Friend
The Bastard
The Dumbass
The Idiot
The Fool
The Bounty Hunter
The Outlaw
The Law
The Puto
The Arrogant Son Of A Btch
The Original
The Badass
The Guy From Fort Mercer
And The One And Only The Legend himself, John Marston
You forgot The Man from Blackwater
The Cockroach
Black lung would be proud
The Boyo
What about "little Johnny Marston "?
Everybody gangsta til Marston rolls up with the gold guns, assassin outfit and war horse
I had to replay the mission because on my first run I skipped like a pussy. Now i actually beat American Venom
Doctor: sir, you only have 1 minute of your life left-
me: Play the John Marston theme song
Doctor: sir but its 6 minute long-
Death: sure i will wait
Underrated
You may stand unshaken
Эта тема бьёт по моему маленькому и хрупкому сердечеку, аж слёзы от фоешбеков накатывает
Я хочу это музыку показать бате, but I am fried (я не умею писать на английском)
To the 51 fathers and mothers of the people who disliked, you’re riding with a turncoat
This perfectly encapsulates John Marston, a man on a mission to try and put his past behind him and move into the future with his family... even if in the end it was ultimately pointless.
Rdr2 was the story of a dying west and a man's quest to save the ones he loved and redeem himself and forgive himself. The slow realization that hes living in a world where outlaws are no longer welcome, where his gang is truly dying. Arthur soughy to save as many people as he could before the hand of death came for them all
Rdr1 was a story about an already dead west and a man's mission, to put his past behind him and to save the ones he loved. Sure its called red dead redeption, but I argue that John didn't seek redemption... just security in knowing he would bury the past, even if he would be buried with it, thats why he's so accepting when the moment comes for him to die
Arthur was always a cowboy and an outlaw
But through to 1911 John was truly the last cowboy.
"John didn't seek redemption, just security in knowing he would be burying his past, even if he had to be buried with it" That's gotta be the coldest line delivered about a character. Well said sir
@@fabiancorrea8279 thank you sir
Listening to the voice in my own head repeat the words as I read your comment made me cry. You sir have a great 2022. That was beautiful
No, Jack is the last cowboy of Van Der Linde's gang
I swear, while reading your comment, I hummed that Tabletop Rdr2 ending-credits theme. (the sad joint that played as Tilly was walking with her husband to the trolley) 😭
Johns marston = Best protagonist
fr
0:49 I had earbuds in 😫
I'm happy because this song exists, and i'm sad because Arthur doesn't have a badass theme song like John's
But at least he could afford a ballad and a singer for "Unshaken". 😜
Arthurs theme is probably the "train heist" theme which is badass but nothing can compare to american venom
"You're my brother" is Arthur's theme. His isn't badass at face but badass in the sense that his theme sounds like overcoming the odds.
He actually does it’s the song that plays at the very start of the mission red dead redemption , that is his song
This song is for Arthur
Imagine a live action Red Dead film with this song in it, holy fuck
I mean as much as I would love to see a live action movie or a show, i don't think we need one.
@@Weegeepie-jv8we I agree
The way video games movies usually go it would suck , the two games are basically movies anyway :)
@@jimmyhopkins1 playable movies
They would probably fail it like they always do with film's of video games
This theme explains who is the main protagonist of the whole Red Dead Franchise
Fun fact: you can hear john humming this theme in his tent in the game (hidden)
Is there vid
@@xxx_motherz_milk_xxx8617 I don't think so, I just heard him and watched for a bit then he told me to leave
Now I'm going to try and find a video of him singing this theme.
lies
@@ogvamp2 ok don't believe me
I'm sure Arthur had goosebumps in his grave at that very moment........ Thank you John.
Nah he dont like he said revenge is a fool game
this masterpiece gives me goosebumps...
I didn't care for John all too much throughout this game... until his theme played. When it hits - it HITS!
Just a brief moment of "OH THERE HE IS!"
That's one badass wallpaper
It's now my phone wallpaper, I'm going keep like that for quite a while, this wallpaper is too badass to change.
I'm just imagining that this song plays whenever something is REALLY stacked up against your favor, and instead of buckling under and admitting defeat, you just smile and say,
"I don't care what happens after this. Whether it is good or bad, I need to keep going until either I'm dead or I succeed in my goal. I'm not leaving until one of those two things happen."
I'm stealing that quote
I can picture Clint Eastwood saying something like "I'm either leaving in a hearse or they are" then tipping off his hat, putting his signature smirk and going in guns blazing!!!
That's kinda what arthur did
"It could be good. Could be bad."
*"But it sure as hell is going to be ugly."*
This was the first (and probably only) game that made me cry just listening to a song ("Unshaken")
I know I’m late but I just finished the game today and I can’t stop listening to this. It honestly sounds like a mix of a bunch of different things that I like. I’ve never played red dead one because my parents said I couldn’t when I was little, but given the prequel came out after this makes me want to play it even more.
I urge you to play it. RDR1 is a masterpiece in it’s own right
@@CymroMatt92 I definitely will and let you know how it goes man, if it’s at all good as 2 ima have a blast for sure
I actually finished Rdr2 a few months ago. Been obsessed ever since. Took me years to actually finish the game. Because data was erased when I was like three mission from the end. It’s such a good game.
I hadn’t played Rdr1, but don’t think of it as missing out on it. It’s just following the story chronologically. I’ve been slowly playing through the first game. It’s also incredibly good!
The ultimate mission of rdr2, this music... chills.
Thats Joe! We gotta be close!
@Luca piece of shit that was in the camp with micha at the final mission
@@themandalorian9747 he was gonna say “JOE MAMA”
@Luca JOE MAMA
@Luca Biden
When these drums hit....oh boy....there is no one i couldn't defeat!
The man is capable of killing an army of outlaws solely to reach one man for vengeance, but he decides to abandon his nature to have a peaceful life with his wife and child. I think it's the main reason why John is my favorite character in gaming
Arthur is better as his life ultimately ended in such a terrible and brutal way but he not only saved John, he also saved many people from Dutch's loss of sanity/mental decline and Micah's hellish destruction of a once prosperous family unit
@@RPR1767 There is no "better" protagonist, both lived a life of crime, and in the end, redeemed themselves. John arguably had a more brutal death being shot 20+ times and then bleeding out
Hearing this music brought a tear to my eye and I exclaimed "JOHN IS BACK!!"
John Marston has born!!!
Nothing is more stylish than a cowboy looking for revenge for his brothers murder.
That was Joe! We gotta be close! It's John Marston, Micah!
"Just you left, is it?"
"Yeah...
...Just me"
John Marston is the most badass cowboy in the West.
Saw this somewhere:
Arthur Morgan: Legend of the East
John Marston: Legend of the West
@@numberone51976 that’s perfect
What's a coboy?
@@numberone51976 I did too
@ItsTonge I know, that's the joke
People always argue who the better character between arthur and john is, and i think the real answer is obvious. They're both the best
yup👍
No doubt one of the best western themes of all time
This is when Jim Milton really became John Marston
I don't think Abigail ever truly appreciated how much of a complete bad ass her husband really was. lol. I recently did an episodic walkthrough of RDR1 and I couldn't stop thinking that during their interactions. lol
Women never appreciate their husband's qualities sadly. They're only ever able to do so when they're gone.
Straight White Male yup sad truth is most us guys don’t get appreciated what we do until after we’re six feet in the ground rotting away.
@@nonameman7114 but still we gotta do what we gotta do, even when we are not aprecciated or recognized by that, because do our share is our responsibility and it's what makes us man
@@huntertierney5495 Yeah but even when he was helping people, or protecting her and Jack she'd still give him shit. As if he should just stand there and let them all die. The only time I didn't see this was at the end of RDR1.
@@Zee-Core-Gaming Abigail was thinking about Jack's safety and her own, John's priority should have been to keep them safe, not get himself into trouble. Yeah saving people is good, but two things: it wasn't John's business to do that, he wasn't the law nor was he employed to do that, his business was to provide for his family. By getting into fights he put himself at risk (and by extension, his family) and he made himself more visible to the law. He's still a wanted man. Let's not forget that at the very start of the epilogue they are still on the move because John killed some guy.
And secondly, Abigail knew John was a troublemaker, and she wasn't there to see when he was only defending himself or other people, so she only had his word to go on, and past experiences. You could understand why she was skeptical about his excuses.
TL;DR: No good saving strangers if you ruin your family in the process.