Watch this argument between Roman Catholic priests and Charismatic Members.

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024

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  • @ng.kemzie7506
    @ng.kemzie7506 Před měsícem +1

    There are things of the spirit which maybe a common practice to peoples of all cultural backgrounds.
    From this, I have understood that this practice seems a common one all over Africa especially in Nigeria. In my native state, the act of honouring our parents both living or dead is a must do. Give honour to whom honour is due." Nku di be ndi na esiri ha nrì"..
    .People forget that their parents are also ancestors and when they.pass to the great beyond they becomes ancestors too.
    In Igboland, the first son cannot be buried outside his father hometown. The carcase MUST be exhumed from any country or state to his family hometown. It has been in existence overtime, can church cancell it ? Of course no.they cannot. Give ceaser what is for him and to God what belongs to God.
    Good job 042Solex. Keep it up.

  • @IkeMba-q4l
    @IkeMba-q4l Před měsícem

    I will like to participate on this matter to let the two parties understand more about it
    From Ikemba Nnobi

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem +1

    The reason why many people is confused about church and christianity today is because of too much of different different churches and christianity we have in the world today
    Because too much of things is always causing problem

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem +1

    Time is coming when I will start teaching people how to worship God

  • @user-ob7bv7ov6z
    @user-ob7bv7ov6z Před měsícem

    Good debate! It is shocking Cardinal & his acolytes do not have convincing response even those who run to them for solution are seen as part of problems.
    1. In things fall apart, Achebe presented the same issue using Unoka who went to deity to inquire cause of calamity in his life. Dibia told him that his father is angry that he Unoka did not kill cow for d burial. Unoka is seen as a poor man but he is most intelligent to tell d dibia to ask his dead father how many cows he had or industry during his life time.
    2.Bishops made law for funeral to hold within 2months but this core part of ceremony is still there staying both poor & rich in face. Our generation do not keep such things till when u get money or u are now rich. No. Right from primary school ur parents indirectly remind u this. So that is why money ritual, kidnapping etc are increasing. I can give u practical examples.
    3. Like Achebe pointed out yrs ago, every cow killed during most funeral are linked to ancestors. In spirit world, ancestors, evil altar, familiar/ contrary spirit, dibias, spiritualist, demons, satan & Lucifer work together in this order. Just as in Catholic church we have cathedral, parishes, out stations then families: Likewise Lucifer has the same organigram. Every town has shrine bigger parish, then village shrine, kindred shrine, family shrine, then personal altar. We call it evil altar bcos demons coordinate them but report back to Lucifer. Bcos Lucifer is wise but want souls of man for his kingdom of darkness he made gullible man to see his trap as custom or omenala. This territorial demons work tirelessly to keep south east in these customs. He even provided institutions like native doctors, herbalists etc for inquires.
    4. Powers/ forces need these blood from man, goat, fowl, cow for perpetuation of satanic covenant. In some communities if you don't slaughter cow for d dead it has consequences bcos u want cut generational agreement to sell the soul of d person to kingdoms of darkness. So my beloved & respected clergy should know what their defence is all about. Satan is wise but God is wiser.

    • @innonneji9897
      @innonneji9897 Před měsícem

      My dear if those things never comes to your position you will remain in this your opinion but when it happens to you aswear you will have no choice than to do it very perfectly

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem +1

    There is nothing like a Rev father or a pastor

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem +1

    All this things everybody is doing everyday in the church is not how to worship God

  • @Kelita.Sonita
    @Kelita.Sonita Před měsícem

    Even Jesus followed the Jewish tradition. Passover he go .Cenus he did. Baptism he did

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem +1

    Cows and goat have nothing to do in worshipping God

  • @wisdom6775
    @wisdom6775 Před měsícem +1

    What is the difference between tradition and culture?

    • @dubemellit2932
      @dubemellit2932 Před měsícem

      Culture is a collective term used to identify ideas, customs and social behavior of a people…..
      Tradition is the belief that passed down from one generation to another…..
      Traditions are part of culture.

    • @PeterOdo
      @PeterOdo Před měsícem

      😂😂😂😂

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Some people don't know how the spirit of God work

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Remember that the spirit of God is already living in every human beings life

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    The reason why I said this is because of the discussion the are having with the Rev father's

  • @user-kf5ph2dm7n
    @user-kf5ph2dm7n Před měsícem

    Rev answered collectly

  • @nonsochukwudozie1975
    @nonsochukwudozie1975 Před měsícem

    Nothing concern church for killing cow for your father. But I don't know why some people so foolish by carry by traditional into church. People should understand that church is religion and traditional is community tribe. Every tribe have their way of doing their traditional thing

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Even the Rev father's don't even know what the are worship on Sundays

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Because many people is confused about what the are worship

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Is better I become a teacher like John than opening churches up and down

  • @basilnwokoro256
    @basilnwokoro256 Před měsícem

    As a Christian all those things does not matter anything, when someone dies whether you kill cow or not he or she does not know, is just people's believe and is cursing a lot of problems in some families because they do go and borrow money and after that they will be struggling to pay the money back, so for me the priest fail the answer, and is only in Igbo land all those things are still happening, In my conclusion killing a cow for someone who died for a longtime in the name of tradition is meaningless because that dead person can not do anything for the children or the family

  • @user-zi4gx4go8n
    @user-zi4gx4go8n Před měsícem

    The Charismatic members are just too timid or let me say being over righteous but the Rev. Fathers are intelligent and more experienced.

  • @tinaokafor6211
    @tinaokafor6211 Před měsícem

    There is no time the Church tells somebody to kill Cow for his father, it is the Villagers and the tradition that makes people to do these things to please their people.

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Even Jesus Christ is a teacher

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Some people don't even know what the are worship on Sundays

  • @tinaokafor6211
    @tinaokafor6211 Před měsícem

    Father is right, evangelise your people and explain to them that it is not necessary.

  • @sabinusnwajebichi67
    @sabinusnwajebichi67 Před měsícem

    All these hopeless Christmatic Efulefus asking stupid question because you want to defend foreign religion and it's doctrine.

  • @tobyelue2141
    @tobyelue2141 Před měsícem

    Where is the Bible in this matter, is Catholic following the Bible or the Igbo tradition.

  • @someonesmileafrica3184
    @someonesmileafrica3184 Před měsícem

    Culture Forever

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Some people will tell you that the reason why human beings is doing sacrifice is because of Abraham did in the bible
    So do you do other things Abraham did in the bible

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Abraham did not wake up and decide to do that sacrifice for God

  • @user-jp4ke5fh8g
    @user-jp4ke5fh8g Před měsícem

    This is amateur debate......both sides are very gullible to debate on issues like that

  • @user-ob5mh8yi3r
    @user-ob5mh8yi3r Před měsícem

    More grace to sorex

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    God told Abraham to do the sacrifice before Abraham accept to do it for God

  • @okanms1
    @okanms1 Před měsícem

    Some efulefus are trying to destroy our tradition

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Do you give God anything before God create any human beings

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Jesus christ is not a Rev father

  • @roseokoye1276
    @roseokoye1276 Před měsícem

    I my brother pollarp

  • @veraduru5469
    @veraduru5469 Před měsícem

    Go and read the 10 commandment of God

  • @okekechukwuemerie4591
    @okekechukwuemerie4591 Před měsícem

    You people in Igbo people an is mad people