Is it possible realize in new version import/convert DX7 patches? For example, split a 6-operator patch into two 4-operator patches, and then automatically combine them in performance mode? I think in most dx7 algorithms it could be done...if we substitute the corresponding parts of the algorithms from 81z
Mmmm, not entirely sure this would work. Some of the Algorithms could be split into two 4 Operator Patches and them mixed together I guess, but there will be some Algorithms in a DX7 that use more Modulation Paths than is possible on a 4 Operator Algorithm and I can't think how you would replicate that using two TX81Z patches?
@@synthassist4u I agree that not all algorithms from dx7 can be correctly divided into two independent patches. But still, I think most can be tried. It would be great if the converter made two tx81z patches from one dx7 patch and then automatically created a performance where these two patches would play together on one midi channel, having previously created two patches based on one. Not all algorithms from DX7 will be able to convert correctly, but if most of them succeed, it will be great. And it will be an absolutely unique product. ) This is the strength of the tx81z, unlike the DX7, that in performance mode you can create a much cooler sound than with just 6 operators. There you can combine 4*8=32 operators and create an incredibly rich sound. Take an attack from one, a release from another, a body sound from a third, and other overtones. (And even if you don’t take into account that there are other waveforms besides sines, which in themselves already replace the combination of several operator modulations) It's so much cooler than just 6 single tone operators... even if we take into account that in performance mode there will be a significant limitation on polyphony
Thx :) Nice tool really. I can't make the old TX81Z editor work (the one available on the panel page of CTRLR). That would be welcome. One question I have : how do you sync the hardware to the panel. Let's say you open a daw session, and you have an editor on the session. How do you send the panel state to the synth, to make sure it sounds the way the panel is ? Typically I use snapshots, on CTRLR. Here I don't know. Another question : would it be possible to have access to the upper ctrlr functions ? I like to customize a bit more my midi routings, and I don't necessarily use midi out from the plugin ; I rather let midi flow thru my daw, Reaper, and I route MIDI from Reaper. I'm under the impression your editor is a restricted export, hence the "no-access" to some functions of CTRLR. Have you thought about releasing a non-restricted version of the editor ? Thx again man ; very good job :) !!
If you load a Patch from Disk or from the Librarian Voice Bank or switch Patch Memories from the Editor then those Patch Parameters get sent to the TX81Z so it's in sync with the Panel. Personally I've never used Snapshots, if I want to save a Patch then I save it to Disk as a SysEx File. It's personal preference I guess but where are those Snapshots saved and what stops them being wiped accidentally if I have an issue with Ctrlr and have to re-install or wipe the directory? Plus saving the patch files as standard TX81Z SysEx means they are completely cross platform, you can send them from anything that will send SysEx which basically makes them as future proof as possible. If you would just prefer the standard .bpanelz file so you could do your own thing that's not a problem. I choose to restrict in general because it keeps things simple for the majority and makes life far easier!
This is amazing! How will the midi buffer on the TX handle notes and multiple automation lanes at the same time? Also is there a similar editor coming for JV1080 by any chance?
I have to be honest and say it does NOT handle it very well at all. The CPU is steam powered and the Buffer Memory is microscopically small. Sending MIDI Notes and Automation SysEx Messages at the same time results in a very random sounding melody. The best results are by slow automation of a sustained note, or switching a parameter between notes. I added the functionality because I could but the TX81Z was never designed with this in mind and it struggles badly!
@@synthassist4u Makes sense, and i was expecting it to behave like that. Thanks for the reply. Is there any chance that a Roland JV1080 similar editor style to be made anytime soon?
Short answer is no. Long answer is: This thing seems incredibly rare, you are lucky to have it, if you can send me the SysEx Implementation for it, it is perfectly possible to add that functionality, I could have a look.
thanks for the video. does this editor change the values on the hardware tx81z in real time as you edit parameters? i see a small black yamaha hardware screen changing as you move the sliders on the red software screen.
That's exactly what it does, you can create your own sounds in real time, and use the Librarian to save them or load other peoples form disk. You can also automate parameters in a DAW but that is slow and problematic due to the slow hardware response of the TX81Z, but the feature is there if you want to use it.
Nope not at the moment, but I did think about adding that feature in the future, it's a question of what do you randomize? And within what ranges do you randomize? So that you stand a chance of getting useable musical results and not just random nonsense.
Is it possible realize in new version import/convert DX7 patches? For example, split a 6-operator patch into two 4-operator patches, and then automatically combine them in performance mode? I think in most dx7 algorithms it could be done...if we substitute the corresponding parts of the algorithms from 81z
Mmmm, not entirely sure this would work. Some of the Algorithms could be split into two 4 Operator Patches and them mixed together I guess, but there will be some Algorithms in a DX7 that use more Modulation Paths than is possible on a 4 Operator Algorithm and I can't think how you would replicate that using two TX81Z patches?
@@synthassist4u I agree that not all algorithms from dx7 can be correctly divided into two independent patches. But still, I think most can be tried. It would be great if the converter made two tx81z patches from one dx7 patch and then automatically created a performance where these two patches would play together on one midi channel, having previously created two patches based on one. Not all algorithms from DX7 will be able to convert correctly, but if most of them succeed, it will be great. And it will be an absolutely unique product. ) This is the strength of the tx81z, unlike the DX7, that in performance mode you can create a much cooler sound than with just 6 operators. There you can combine 4*8=32 operators and create an incredibly rich sound. Take an attack from one, a release from another, a body sound from a third, and other overtones. (And even if you don’t take into account that there are other waveforms besides sines, which in themselves already replace the combination of several operator modulations) It's so much cooler than just 6 single tone operators... even if we take into account that in performance mode there will be a significant limitation on polyphony
where can I download this? It does not seem like you are offering it for download.
Please use the Contact Form on the website. Address is in the Video Description.
Thx :) Nice tool really. I can't make the old TX81Z editor work (the one available on the panel page of CTRLR). That would be welcome. One question I have : how do you sync the hardware to the panel. Let's say you open a daw session, and you have an editor on the session. How do you send the panel state to the synth, to make sure it sounds the way the panel is ? Typically I use snapshots, on CTRLR. Here I don't know. Another question : would it be possible to have access to the upper ctrlr functions ? I like to customize a bit more my midi routings, and I don't necessarily use midi out from the plugin ; I rather let midi flow thru my daw, Reaper, and I route MIDI from Reaper. I'm under the impression your editor is a restricted export, hence the "no-access" to some functions of CTRLR. Have you thought about releasing a non-restricted version of the editor ? Thx again man ; very good job :) !!
If you load a Patch from Disk or from the Librarian Voice Bank or switch Patch Memories from the Editor then those Patch Parameters get sent to the TX81Z so it's in sync with the Panel. Personally I've never used Snapshots, if I want to save a Patch then I save it to Disk as a SysEx File. It's personal preference I guess but where are those Snapshots saved and what stops them being wiped accidentally if I have an issue with Ctrlr and have to re-install or wipe the directory? Plus saving the patch files as standard TX81Z SysEx means they are completely cross platform, you can send them from anything that will send SysEx which basically makes them as future proof as possible. If you would just prefer the standard .bpanelz file so you could do your own thing that's not a problem. I choose to restrict in general because it keeps things simple for the majority and makes life far easier!
This is amazing! How will the midi buffer on the TX handle notes and multiple automation lanes at the same time? Also is there a similar editor coming for JV1080 by any chance?
I have to be honest and say it does NOT handle it very well at all. The CPU is steam powered and the Buffer Memory is microscopically small. Sending MIDI Notes and Automation SysEx Messages at the same time results in a very random sounding melody. The best results are by slow automation of a sustained note, or switching a parameter between notes. I added the functionality because I could but the TX81Z was never designed with this in mind and it struggles badly!
@@synthassist4u Makes sense, and i was expecting it to behave like that. Thanks for the reply. Is there any chance that a Roland JV1080 similar editor style to be made anytime soon?
@@danielsolomon63 Funny you should say that, I have a JV2080 that needs an Editor and I will get around to it at some point!
My TX81Z has a TZQuad board added. Can this editor access all 4 memory instances?
Short answer is no. Long answer is: This thing seems incredibly rare, you are lucky to have it, if you can send me the SysEx Implementation for it, it is perfectly possible to add that functionality, I could have a look.
thanks for the video. does this editor change the values on the hardware tx81z in real time as you edit parameters? i see a small black yamaha hardware screen changing as you move the sliders on the red software screen.
That's exactly what it does, you can create your own sounds in real time, and use the Librarian to save them or load other peoples form disk. You can also automate parameters in a DAW but that is slow and problematic due to the slow hardware response of the TX81Z, but the feature is there if you want to use it.
@@synthassist4u that's amazing.
Is it maybe possible to overclock the CPU to make it a bit more responsive?
Hello, the vst is 64 bit ?
It is yes
Nice!! can you randomize?
Nope not at the moment, but I did think about adding that feature in the future, it's a question of what do you randomize? And within what ranges do you randomize? So that you stand a chance of getting useable musical results and not just random nonsense.
@@synthassist4u that would result in an immediate buy for me!
How can I buy this ?
Send me an enquiry from the website, www.synthassist.co.uk