Polar Vantage V2 Review: 9 New Things To Know // Accuracy Testing & More

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  • In-Depth Review: dcra.in/VantageV2
    Today Polar has announced the Vantage V2, a touch bit over two years since they announced the initial Polar Vantage V & M series watches. The Vantage V2 essentially takes all those new Grit X and adds a couple more related to running and cycling performance testing. Also, music controls and new watch faces. It is by all definitions a modest update, both in terms of software - but also hardware, with only slight changes to the watch’s exterior design - albeit a significant reduction of weight.
    0:00 Hardware Basics
    1:57 Running Performance Test
    4:06 Cycling Performance Test
    6:08 Leg Recovery Test
    6:37 Performance Testing Dashboard
    7:02 Music Controls
    7:50 Customize Dashboard Views
    8:30 Weekly Training Summary
    9:15 Polar Grit X Features
    10:40 Upcoming Features
    11:00 Accuracy Testing
    12:52 Wrap-up
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  • @ChaseTheSummit
    @ChaseTheSummit Před 3 lety +18

    Sadly I too saw the same Heart Rate spikes in my Vantage V2 data. Otherwise generally pretty accurate but it's hard to overlook those deviations. Great video as always Ray!

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, it's too bad - I was hoping we'd see them sort that out from the Grit X.

    • @albertogilrivas2466
      @albertogilrivas2466 Před 3 lety +2

      I've a Polar Vantage V and I'm very disappointed (and It's not my first Polar) but in this moment I would prefer a Garmin

    • @edderepa9685
      @edderepa9685 Před 3 lety +2

      Well done for pointing out the ridiculous no notifications during activities too btw

    • @douglasmccowen27
      @douglasmccowen27 Před 3 lety +1

      Just wondering if people have seen more HR accuracy when wearing the HR chest strap, especially since it makes more sense to have the HRM mounted on the stem or handlebars.

    • @MichaelMRoth
      @MichaelMRoth Před 3 lety

      @@edderepa9685 I wonder, if you can get Bluetooth to work during training. This would be essential for Diabetes typ 1 folks, who want to get their values from their Diabetes sensor like the coming up FreeStyle Libre 3 or Dexcom G6. Unfortunately sports watch producers seem not to have diabetics as their customers so far, which is a shame in my eyes. As technology would allow for more!

  • @justinward1580
    @justinward1580 Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks again, always appreciate these reviews!

  • @TheN0m1s
    @TheN0m1s Před 3 lety +8

    I currently run with the fr245 and i really like it
    However i really liked the polar eco system for it's clear and simple style
    I want to go back to polar at some point so im still hoping for a polar watch that checks all my boxes
    Great review! Ty

  • @takyiyakvsi
    @takyiyakvsi Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the review. Was waiting for that :)

  • @FreddyKarlsson1
    @FreddyKarlsson1 Před 3 lety +25

    Can always count on a review available minutes after a new smartwatch is released. :)

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +7

      Or...an hour or two in today's case. 😂 Gotta keep it fashionably late!

  • @greganikin7003
    @greganikin7003 Před 3 lety

    You’re such a treasure, man! Thank you for your videos!

  • @yiannis_christodoulou
    @yiannis_christodoulou Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks good review and I am enjoying my V2

  • @ACaseyPodcast
    @ACaseyPodcast Před 3 lety +9

    Great review, I just sold my Apple Watch 4 and bought a Polar Vantage V a couple of months ago. So far I love it, it lacks some smart watch features but the fitness analysis, ability to put workouts in your watch, workout recommendations and recovery all make up for it.
    I do miss music control and, as a personal trainer, would love to have the Vo2 tests and see the fuel analyses ... but I’m not sure if it the upgrades are worth it enough to pay out €500.00
    I’ll think some more on it, but your review has helped! Thanks

  • @dc5
    @dc5 Před 3 lety +2

    Excellent video as always... for running, which ecosystem do you prefer, Polar or Garmin? And what about triathlons? Thanks for sharing!

  • @mlegrand
    @mlegrand Před 3 lety +3

    I noticed that your jump tests are higher than mine. Not cool. Also, touch screen on a rainy day and you're making it work. Impressive. I wonder if the HR issues is due to skin tone. I noticed mixed results and I'm ultra pale. Also, I just noticed that sticker in the background. Very nice of you but I was expecting you to stick it to some unsuspecting dutch citizen that you didn't like. Amazing video! Great work on this Ray!

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +3

      Hahaha... it's been there for a couple weeks now, but I realized recently that it was actually more behind me, and almost impossible to see except if I got up/moved around/etc... 😂

  • @trailzrock2
    @trailzrock2 Před 3 lety +34

    Man, I really wanna love this watch, but Polar keeps letting me down by not including ANT+ Are they even aware how important that is? When I ride on Zwift my powermeter is paired wvia Bluetooth to my iPad so I wouldn't be able to pair it to my watch. With Garmin I can pair the power meter to my Garmin and my tablet. Darn Polar!!! Somebody wake them up!!!!!

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +6

      I agree it's important. And I think especially so with the FTP test, and needing to control the trainer somehow. It's a legit practical issue that became super obvious to me on my first FTP test attempt with it.

  • @jamal6509
    @jamal6509 Před 3 lety

    Super great review as always. In the start I thought you spoke a little fast.. but not a big problem.. anyways is the buttons on the V2 been smoother then the previous model?

  • @SimoPortti
    @SimoPortti Před 3 lety +2

    Nice and thorough video! I just got mine and I'm so confused. How do you get the colors so vivid? With mine it is almost like monochrome :o also is there a way to turn the AOD off?

  • @mortenvinther8940
    @mortenvinther8940 Před 3 lety +2

    at heart rate accuracy test you should have compared it to a chest strap. V2 might actually be accurate and other devices wrong. Especially when u clash it up vs a Garmin watch. So many reports saying Garmin is way off. Thank you for the review man !

  • @nathanshanks7610
    @nathanshanks7610 Před 3 lety

    I enjoy all your reviews. There are so many smartwatches out there now. I have a Garmin Fenix 5S, was thinking of upgrading. If you were looking at any smartwatch on the market today which one would you buy and wear?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      I generally believe that unless there's a compelling reason to switch ecosystems, it's usually better for most people to stay in the same ecosystem if otherwise on the fence. Given you've got a Fenix 5S, I'd probably look at the Fenix 6/Pro series, or even if you didn't want to spend that much - the FR745 is the same price as the Vantage V2.

  • @RobinHood-yk8og
    @RobinHood-yk8og Před 3 lety +2

    Polar seems to be making this their main cycling computer, which is nuts. The V650 isn't perfect by a long shot... connectivity issues and a serious lack of power based training options... but it's a darn sight better than strapping your watch to the handlebars as if this is the mid-90's.

  • @vadymzolotarov6903
    @vadymzolotarov6903 Před 3 lety +2

    Hello! Please tell me if it is possible to use "nightly recharge" and "recovery pro + orthostatic test" in this watch at the same time or you need to choose one of these functions, as it was in the previous Polar vantage V? Thanks.

  • @dcutl
    @dcutl Před 3 lety +2

    I am going to keep my VV a while longer and buy the VV2 when there is a discount. Right now my VV works great.

    • @dcutl
      @dcutl Před 3 lety

      @@gustavopaulette3496 , trolling over the internet is easy and something that cowards do.

    • @dcutl
      @dcutl Před 3 lety

      Gustavo Paulette, oh yeah, let the world know the extent of your intelligence.

  • @silviui.
    @silviui. Před 3 lety +3

    Any news about Huawei gt 2 pro? It seems odd you didn't review it yet.

  • @peterullinger2814
    @peterullinger2814 Před 3 lety +7

    I tested the V2 for a week and was ALMOST there, switching from Garmin to Polar after four years rocking the first.
    Then, I ran with my brother who fell (he did not hurt himself that much) and his Apple Watch send me a message that he had an accident. I remembered that one time I would have needed an incident detection feature on my Forerunner 645 breaking my arm on a run years ago, before it got that with a firmware update. I have it on my Forerunner 745, and I have peace of mind knowing that for when I run or bike alone (which I do most of the time).
    I returned the V2 the same day. But, if Polar eventually does update the V2 with a crash detection, I´m ready to switch.

    • @CharlesINTEL
      @CharlesINTEL Před 3 lety

      Still using the 745? Polar VV2 user here (for weight lifting 5x/week) thinking about trying the 745.

    • @peterullinger2814
      @peterullinger2814 Před 3 lety

      @@CharlesINTEL Still using it.
      It is still an awesome little device with much more smart functionality than the V2, but feels more cluttered than the latter.
      But for weight lifting, both are an overkill!

  • @Deimokas
    @Deimokas Před 3 lety +1

    Hey, can you write more about the test results. What does polar do with test result? Does it update you HR zones according to test? I'm looking for a watch which could set my HR zones by test results.

  • @nickthequick
    @nickthequick Před 3 lety +3

    Maybe you should add a disclaimer regarding HR zones.
    In the Polar community I see that hardly anyone has their HR zones set correctly; they just go with the standard setting which will give you an average HR Max for your age and divides the 5 zones in increments of 10% each. (You should actually do a well supervised HR Max test to set each HR zone correctly according to your personal respiratory performance). This results in some ridiculous HR zone measurements, like 25 minutes of a total of an hour spent in Zone 5 - the red zone. It is NOT possible to perform for more than a few minutes at a time in Zone 5. Let me repeat: If your results show that you are performing for more than 3 minutes at a time in Zone 5 then it's all wrong. Zone 5 is anaerobic training - Anaerobic exercise is any activity that breaks down glucose for energy without using oxygen. (And adding to that it also gives totally wrong Running Index results).
    Basically people are buying these highly technological and expensive watches but have no clue how to use them.
    PS: After writing this diatribe I continued watching your video, and lo and behold, at 6:59 we get to see that not even DC Rainmaker has his HR Zones set correctly ... Ooops ..

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      If only apple would update your zones after your test automatically...

  • @thani7963
    @thani7963 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you Ray always the best reviews, is it easy to look at your rest while you running at Max effort? why no SPO2 Polar. still wearing Fitbit Sense😁.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      Fitbit Versa 3 in this case - though, they're identical from the outside. :) It's pretty easy to see while running for me.

    • @thani7963
      @thani7963 Před 3 lety

      DC Rainmaker can you please explain why Polar don't use SPO2.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety

      @@thani7963 The challenge with SpO2 is proving value. Right now, most of the sensors are accurate, but only when used in very specific ways (sitting quietly/still/etc...). I suspect eventually we'll see Polar add it, but I don't really hear many people asking for it specifically.

  • @RaleX89
    @RaleX89 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi there. Are the wrist bands swappable between V and V2 ? Thank you

  • @mansonfei7656
    @mansonfei7656 Před 3 lety +2

    Hey Ray, This is Manson. Not sure you can remember me, the ex-Mio guy (Mio Link, "His" & "Her" casebacks). I have a suggestion about your HR graphs. Would you please enlarge the legend font size? They are hard to see. Thanks for all your reviews!

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +2

      Hey Manson - good to hear from you!!! Long time no chat! Good call on the legend font. We had made it small years ago so it wouldn't be in the way, but I agree, it could use a size upgrade.

    • @profchaos9001
      @profchaos9001 Před 3 lety

      Just fyi i still use a mio link lol

  • @zohanrock
    @zohanrock Před 3 lety +4

    3:21 "Maximal is you run until you die, which was what I did."
    Reason why this video was delayed by 3 days.

  • @beachs7210
    @beachs7210 Před 2 lety +1

    Do you know how the guided running programs are with polar, compared to Garmin Coach programs?

  • @YuriWan.Kenobi
    @YuriWan.Kenobi Před 3 lety +2

    It seems to be an already old just released sportwatch.

  • @SimoPortti
    @SimoPortti Před 3 lety

    This is a silly question but can you use the touch screen only or do you need to push the physical buttons when browsing the menus and selecting things?

  • @99MUZIK
    @99MUZIK Před 3 lety +3

    It’s a damn shame that polar took all the features from the Grid X and The one thing that I would like polar to do is to have the recovery pro feature on the Grid X.

  • @uzairmohammed5134
    @uzairmohammed5134 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi Ray! Are you planning on reviewing the Galaxy Watch 3?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +2

      Yup, goes onto my wrist on Monday. :)

  • @MartinWeissgerber
    @MartinWeissgerber Před 3 lety +2

    Hey Ray, great review. As usual to put this clear!!
    I would be interested in how you see Polar’s firmware update strategy in comparison to their competitors. I got my Vantage V v1 about 1,5 years ago when firmware was not just buggy but lacked most (!) of the features. With the release of the Vantage V v2 it is clear that there won’t be new furqther development for the v1.
    Do companies like Garmin or Suunto drop development that quickly for their premium watches as well. Quite a bummer!

    • @get_outdoors
      @get_outdoors Před 3 lety +1

      Martin Weissgerber same with V650 cycle computer and Balance Scale, I’ve now moved to Garmin and wish I’d moved years ago

    • @MartinWeissgerber
      @MartinWeissgerber Před 3 lety +1

      @@get_outdoors that’s exactly my point: polar products may be great (at least the hardware. And polar flow service especially!). But what’s the point if there are no feature updates? That’s the same reason I buy an iPhone over an Android phone. So yes, I too will probably leave the polar world.

  • @maciejcieciera1829
    @maciejcieciera1829 Před 3 lety

    how sensitive/prompt navi is? Is this any quicker than v800? I've been struggling many times to go proper way when there were a few options to chose - as it gives no base map. i was wondering if they've improved it any way.

  • @sekil75
    @sekil75 Před 3 lety

    Can you test if it works reliably with Garmin Speed Sensor 2?

  • @toneyclayton485
    @toneyclayton485 Před 3 lety +2

    I have the Grit X. Is it possible that Polar will update the G-X with the new features found in the Vantage V2?

    • @toneyclayton485
      @toneyclayton485 Před 3 lety +1

      Just heard the answer 13 minutes into your video...damn. almost forces you to either get an upgrade or leave Polar....not good. You should always support older models as long as they can process the info. You dont have to give them everything, but dont leave them completely out in the cold either. This is a VERY STRONG reason people leave. But maybe that's not important to Polar....

  • @nxel2
    @nxel2 Před 3 lety

    Any idea when polar will release one with music??

  • @juha2031
    @juha2031 Před 3 lety

    Must say that the tool wall back there has very random tools on it :D

  • @erva1976
    @erva1976 Před rokem

    How are Polar running programs comparing to Garmins coach ? A lot of comments here on why Garmins beat Polar (for tracking runs which is my purpose) but Vantage V still works for me (had it for 3 years) so not sure if FR255 or 955 would be great upgrades?

  • @dutchgus
    @dutchgus Před 3 lety +6

    Hill reps in Amsterdam? 🙊

  • @cenkarslan7685
    @cenkarslan7685 Před 3 lety

    Is there a way to upload Zwift activities to Polar Flow? I wrote couple of times to polar support team but they keep forwarding !!! It seems they don't understand why we need during all those lockdowns

  • @Kortochtjock
    @Kortochtjock Před 3 lety

    Not exactly the topic for this video... but did you ever do a review of the enormous Casio GBDH-1000?

  • @usmannaeem
    @usmannaeem Před 3 lety

    In your opinion which round face smart watch has the biggest display in the entire industry, as in the actual display size?

  • @uhlfelder6425
    @uhlfelder6425 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi Ray. Thanks for all your good work. I've owned and used both the Vantage V and V2 and while the V2 has certain advantages, it has a huge disadvantage for me. For some reason, it doesn't allow reporting out with any accuracy of pool lap information (total yards and time is more or less accurate). I tried to look at the CSV file to discern if this is a reporting issue (maybe), but I know for sure the V gave me the laps, lap times, rests, all with pretty good accuracy. That information is junk when coming from the V2 and unusable. I don't think this is a user error. Any insight here?

  • @michaelheckhuis8342
    @michaelheckhuis8342 Před 3 lety +1

    As always.... Great review. But the V2 without NFC is a no go nowadays.

  • @balmii88
    @balmii88 Před 3 lety +3

    Fenix 6 or Vantage V2? What does the rainmaker thinks? I am a trail / halfmarathon runner, looking to increase my distances

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +11

      It depends a bit on your wallet and what you want out of it. You could also look at the FR745, which is the same price as the Vantage V2, and has about 92% of the features of the Fenix 6.

    • @pedrorodrigueztube
      @pedrorodrigueztube Před 3 lety +1

      @@Dcrainmakersorry but that's not usefull at all

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +8

      @@pedrorodrigueztube Why not? It literally depends on what you want out of it. A Fenix 6 or FR745 has far more trail-running focused features than a Vantage V2. But, if you're not going to use those features, it's pointless. Thus my question - what do you want out of it?

  • @tixel6274
    @tixel6274 Před 3 lety

    Hello DC Rainmaker, What is your daily watch or what what do you find that you use more frequent than otherse?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +4

      Once watch review season is over, I'll probably settle back on the FR945, Fenix 6 Pro, or Apple Watch Series 6.

    • @dwahnsinn
      @dwahnsinn Před 3 lety

      @@Dcrainmaker you have to mutch options haha nice

  • @edutoro11
    @edutoro11 Před 3 lety +2

    Nice watch, but as always I feel the are still short from Garmin. Nothing in this products would make me change Garmin for Polar (even though I love Polar flow). Music storage, 22mm wrist bands and interchangeable watch faces are some things that a watch at this price point should have!!!!.

    • @edutoro11
      @edutoro11 Před 3 lety +3

      ohhh and the ANT+ deal is really weird!!!! why not include it in this watch???!!!!

    • @thestamsvideoproduction7427
      @thestamsvideoproduction7427 Před 3 lety

      @@edutoro11 maybe royalties?

    • @edutoro11
      @edutoro11 Před 3 lety +1

      @@thestamsvideoproduction7427 maybe, but it really affects this product compared to all the premium watches, I think.

  • @rickaguilar1833
    @rickaguilar1833 Před 2 lety

    Bought the garmin vantage 2 ultra when it came out! And was blown away with the features! BUT now March 19,2022 the battery just last ONE day! What happened!??

  • @nirzay5
    @nirzay5 Před 3 lety

    On the music control, they did mention the smartphone can be left at home. Does it true?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      Not for music, no. For everything else, yes.

  • @hishamalzedjali1518
    @hishamalzedjali1518 Před 3 lety

    Is it accurate in steps and calories?

  • @MegaMagicbeans
    @MegaMagicbeans Před 3 lety +17

    I would love these manufactures to stop making screen data where you need a magnify glass to actually see it. Not of all us are 25 year old devs with pin sharp 20/20 vision. I am not taking my reading glasses on a bloody run or cycle.
    Grump aside, as premium watch is not really good enough.

    • @And-rc9yy
      @And-rc9yy Před 3 lety

      I thought the same with my Polar M430 until I realised I could customise the screen to display what I wanted, of course I don't know if it's possible with the model in the video.

    • @TischTosh
      @TischTosh Před 3 lety

      Yes! So true....

  • @flippodud
    @flippodud Před 3 lety +4

    I've owned a Garmin Fenix 5 plus before the Vantage V1 I currently use. The main thing I love about the Vantage is the integration of recovery feedback, training load and training advice, something that is missing in other watches. Garmin beats Polar in sheer number of features but the features that are implemented in Polar are in general more useful, for me at least. Polar should really look into local music storage though, it would be interesting to know how difficult that really is, or at least make two versions like Garmin. I have €40 Mighty that can even do that.

    • @thestamsvideoproduction7427
      @thestamsvideoproduction7427 Před 3 lety

      The fenix does all those things you mentioned. Training load, training status, recovery etc. It's been a staple from the original fenix 5

    • @flippodud
      @flippodud Před 3 lety

      @@thestamsvideoproduction7427 The Fenix does not provide feedback on how and what you should training based on training load/recovery. The Fenix 5 plus (which is really similar to the Fenix 6) only provides the data, not the qualitative interpretation.

    • @thestamsvideoproduction7427
      @thestamsvideoproduction7427 Před 3 lety

      @@flippodud @K 1. training status 2. Training load tells you if you're training too little or too much 3. Training effect will tell you the impact of the specific workout you've just completed. Recovery advisor on Garmin advises you how hard of an effort to take based on recovery time indicated on the watch.
      The user then makes a decision based on the data? Maybe I am missing a feature you're referring to?

    • @bennyhill8421
      @bennyhill8421 Před 3 lety

      I had the polar V800 for years and despite the odd strap replacement I loved it. Currently using the fenix 5s which seems decent enough but even with the limitless apps and watch faces I miss the polar app and the workouts choices available from polar like spin and body pump. Is it worth the upgrade? The only thing I can really fault the fenix 5 for is the sleep feedback is sketchy compared to the V800.

    • @thestamsvideoproduction7427
      @thestamsvideoproduction7427 Před 3 lety

      @@bennyhill8421 you know Garmin connect has tons of pre built workouts you can send to your watch right? They've been adding different workouts over time.

  • @Sinasi08
    @Sinasi08 Před 9 měsíci

    Apparently the V3 with amoled is coming soon

  • @crgtylr
    @crgtylr Před 3 lety +2

    OK, so....I was going just about to buy the Grit X, stick to the Grit X or wait on this?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +4

      I'd probably spend the extra $70 if it were me.

    • @crgtylr
      @crgtylr Před 3 lety

      @@Dcrainmaker Thank you Ray, great channel.......always go to you first.

  • @fabiosinus
    @fabiosinus Před 3 lety +1

    Hallo
    does the Vantage V2 count the steps while cycling?

  • @mikhaildenezhkin4821
    @mikhaildenezhkin4821 Před 3 lety +4

    Is the V2 screen brighter than the Vantage V? Thanks.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +4

      It’s not so much brighter, as it is crisper and with darker blacks. Same as Grit X.

    • @mikhaildenezhkin4821
      @mikhaildenezhkin4821 Před 3 lety

      @@Dcrainmaker thanks a lot!

  • @juniormargiela5866
    @juniormargiela5866 Před 3 lety

    Will there be a Titan 2 ??

  • @franzkuntschnig1320
    @franzkuntschnig1320 Před 3 lety +2

    What would you recommend for a sportive guy like me, who primarily does his workouts for getting fitter and better for competitive badminton?
    Mainly bodyweight HIIT, rope skipping cardio and Intervall, some running too.
    Normally I play 3-4 days per week at my club/tournaments.

    • @dezsijanos
      @dezsijanos Před 3 lety

      After waiting and checking a lot of watches finally I decided to go with a Garmin Venu 2. You should check it too

  • @nphare
    @nphare Před 3 lety +1

    I like that Polar stays focused on the main thing - sports training! But actually even the newer models are moving more and more direction of Garmin. I think that’s a mistake. I still think the V800 is still the best Polar training watch. I don’t need/want battery draining color/touch displays or super small text that you can’t read when running or if you have older eyes.

  • @alancampbell6236
    @alancampbell6236 Před 3 lety +1

    When I want to know how fast I am, I go on a track or I do a competition. For me all those new features are a desperate attempt to make people buy new devices. Unfortunately Polar doesn't go for Maps and Navigation, so still no competition for Garmin in that field.

    • @bjornprompeler9424
      @bjornprompeler9424 Před 3 lety +1

      As far as I know grit x and v2 have komoot integration and can record, export and import training sessions / tracks you or other people did, but I guess you are looking for real navigation features like in the car / with Google maps, so no real solution for you with the polar watches?

    • @alancampbell6236
      @alancampbell6236 Před 3 lety

      @@bjornprompeler9424 No, I have a Fenix and the offline track navigation with maps is a feature I don't want to miss. So Polar is no option for me, as long as they don't deliver that.

    • @dwahnsinn
      @dwahnsinn Před 3 lety

      @@bjornprompeler9424 even suunto has an integration mapping tool! This is so good to cremte new roads! Suunto is realygood, its the hidden champion in that field!

    • @dwahnsinn
      @dwahnsinn Před 3 lety

      @@alancampbell6236 probaply you love suunto

  • @brandonbrotzman3717
    @brandonbrotzman3717 Před 3 lety +2

    I’ve really come to the conclusion that Polar is just making watches meant to be worn during activity and not really other times (considering sleep an activity as well). Which I don’t mind as I just use my M for training and sleep and wear my Apple Watch as my daily driver. I think they’ve just given up on making lifestyle or true smart watches like Apple and Garmin are.

  • @rasherdk
    @rasherdk Před 3 lety +1

    Now, if only bike rides could be pulled from Strava (or uploaded from Wahoo I guess) and included in the fitness calculations and so on, happening on the Polar side. Polar barely even has a bike head unit available.
    Is there any watch/platform that will include data recorded "outside the ecosystem" into the core metrics?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      I'm not aware of anything that includes 'outside' metrics, at least from a watch/device standpoint. From a platform perspective yes (meaning, like a TrainingPeaks or such).

    • @rasherdk
      @rasherdk Před 3 lety

      @@Dcrainmaker That's what I thought. It's really a pity because it's making me stick with a low-end watch because I wouldn't get much of the benefits of the higher end units. And it's frustrating too, because all the data is there! They just... refuse to look at it if it didn't come from a unit with the right brand name on it. Walled gardens suck.

    • @andrewpercy7166
      @andrewpercy7166 Před 3 lety

      I think polar have given up on cycling. So far behind its competitors. Want a head unit that syncs with my watch (vantage m) in a useful and complementary way. My polar head unit won't even sync with a polar cadence meter.

    • @nielsdewith3780
      @nielsdewith3780 Před 3 lety

      I fully agree. I owned a v650 but sold it because polar didn’t upgrade it anymore. Especially missed the navigation functions (turn by turn) and phased training with power. Incredible that it is still not possible to train based on my powermeter. I also own a Vantage M and a garmin edge 530. To get all my running, swimming and cycling data in Polar flow I record my bike rides on my watch and my Garmin. My powermeter connects with both of them at the same time.
      Don’t know if I would buy a new Polar watch next time. Using one brand makes life a lot easier.

  • @IKEJR
    @IKEJR Před 3 lety

    What about swim accuracy? The first Vantage Gen had lots os issues with swim.

    • @binkybruce
      @binkybruce Před 3 lety

      so does the Polar 800. I've never gotten it to work in a pool.

  • @petsontherocks
    @petsontherocks Před 3 lety +12

    I bought a Polar Grit X in August, 2020. Tried it for three days and unfortunately hated it: touchscreen is cumbersome and unresponsive, the plastic base feels and looks extremely cheap, smartwatch features and connectivity are abysmal. I have been previously a Polar user and really wanted to get back to Polar but yeah... after three days I took it back to shop, paid additional 170 and switched to Garmin Fenix 6 Pro and now I'm a happy camper. Did really not want to piss on Polar but lately their devices suck.

    • @flippodud
      @flippodud Před 3 lety +4

      Apparantly I'm the only happy Polar (Vantage V) owner here ^^

    • @mikec1571
      @mikec1571 Před 3 lety +2

      K me too! I love my polar vantage v

    • @dwahnsinn
      @dwahnsinn Před 3 lety +1

      @@flippodud would yout tell uns why?

    • @dwahnsinn
      @dwahnsinn Před 3 lety +1

      @@mikec1571 hey would you tell me what do you like?

    • @flippodud
      @flippodud Před 3 lety

      @@dwahnsinn Nightly recharge works and is very accurate, together with training load this gives me a good overview of my recovery/wellness. I also like the fact that my VV is light weight, compared to a bulky Fenix, functional Komoot integration, Running Index, power on the wrist etc Garmin shows more data on some aspects, but more detail comes with greater margin of error too and does not always provide more useful information. My 2 cents, but again you can't go wrong either way.

  • @48thRonin...
    @48thRonin... Před 3 lety +3

    Still waiting for V800 V2. Then ill come back to polar.

  • @AtypicalPaul
    @AtypicalPaul Před 3 lety

    Will you be doing a review of the Samsung galaxy 3?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      Yup! Goes on my wrist here in a few hours. :)

    • @AtypicalPaul
      @AtypicalPaul Před 3 lety

      @@Dcrainmaker that's great! I'm really wanting to buy one but want to see what you think of it. You do awesome reviews.
      Really interested in battery life, if the flip to wake works smoothly, how the mobile app shows metrics, how accurate the health metrics are, can you make a call with the Bluetooth version if the phone is connected in your pocket and is the Google assistant available yet? If it didn't cost another $10 a month on Verizon I'd buy the lte version. $5 reasonable but $10 for a watch is too much

  • @elkanamunyela2759
    @elkanamunyela2759 Před 3 lety

    for me! if Polar can add answering/making calls' to the vantage V2, so we don't have to take out your phone or stop training during my training session will be a perfect watch for me.

  • @amendoza1350
    @amendoza1350 Před 2 lety

    Garmin watches offer pace alarm sensor and Polar does not. I have not find how to set a pace range and get alarm from my Polar Vantage watch.

  • @patkob2180
    @patkob2180 Před 3 lety

    When is it available?

  • @noahclaes22
    @noahclaes22 Před 3 lety

    do you think polar will bring a software update to the vantage v1 with some features of the v2?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      No, the stated in a FAQ document sent to the media/press that they don't plan to bring those features to either the Vantage V1 or Grit X. :(

    • @noahclaes22
      @noahclaes22 Před 3 lety

      Sad😥

    • @get_outdoors
      @get_outdoors Před 3 lety

      This is why I dumped Polar, they don’t support their product or customers, moved to Fenix 6 Pro and never looked back

  • @LiberaTeTutemetExInferis

    Is there any hardware upgrade over the Vantage V, is the sat chip the same, are those new optical sensors more accurate , it seems to me that those new features are gimmicks, many not even linked with running, its music, weather, all that nonsense junkware.

  • @tams805
    @tams805 Před 3 lety

    Honestly, I'm looking for a top spec fitness band to be released. One that I can wear on the opposite wrist to a more general smartwatch or a good old analogue/digital one.
    It's odd that after the Grit X that they're pushing ahead with the different heart rate sensor.

  • @stijndeklerk
    @stijndeklerk Před 3 lety

    Not being able to store music on the watch is a disappointment. A feature I really like when going to the gym or a run when I leave my phone at home. Even though the sound quality isn't great I've realy come to like this feature on my Garmin. I'd be very intrested to see how it plays together with Komoot.

    • @fidelbanuelos9601
      @fidelbanuelos9601 Před 3 lety

      The sound quality isn't great on Garmin? Which model do you have?

  • @GabrielMachado84
    @GabrielMachado84 Před 3 lety +5

    I will keep my V800

  • @M3a9m
    @M3a9m Před 2 lety

    Very informative review. Please consider to review Garmin 6X Pro. Looking forward to it. Liked & subscribed. Thanks

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! As for the Fenix 6X Pro, I've included it within my Fenix 6 series review: czcams.com/video/jHTEJjBGrGI/video.html - enjoy!

  • @rasmokey4
    @rasmokey4 Před 3 lety

    So the only new thing is that the v2 costs more?

  • @KYspeaksfood
    @KYspeaksfood Před 3 lety

    Really want this watch to be better than most things Garmin offers, we're getting dangerously close to some sort of monopoly...

  • @Inpreesme
    @Inpreesme Před 3 lety

    👍🏻

  • @johnmanley4528
    @johnmanley4528 Před 3 lety

    Hi Ray. Why doesn’t Polar put out another Wear OS watch? They could likely put out a better watch than the Suunto 7.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +3

      I do agree, Polar's first attempt at Wear OS years ago now was actually way ahead of its time compared to what Suunto did, specifically from an app standpoint. Inversely, Suunto's watch is super pretty and externally way better than the M600 (which...basically was the ugliest thing Polar has ever released). I suspect we'll eventually see Polar get back into that game, but I think it's wise to wait for Wear OS battery improvements to happen (for realz, not just the ones everyone keeps saying already happened).

    • @johnmanley4528
      @johnmanley4528 Před 3 lety +1

      DC Rainmaker The M600 could at least pair with an external HR strap, if my memory serves me correctly. But, it was painfully uncomfortable to wear. With the 4100 processor, it might happen. Reviews report good battery life generally with the Ticwatch Pro 3.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      @@johnmanley4528 Indeed, external straps, even customizing data fields, pages, sport profiles, zones, and best I can tell, structured workouts. Crazy!

    • @tams805
      @tams805 Před 3 lety +1

      I still use their attempt at a Wear OS device, the M600. Overall it's pretty good, but it's very bulky and I find it uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time. And it desparately needs more buttons; touchscreens suck for exercise.
      The main thing that held it back was Wear OS. It was very laggy. This was partly due to the hardware not being available, which is only just being addressed now with 1GB RAM on watch SoCs. Like much of what Google do, it's a resource hog.

    • @johnmanley4528
      @johnmanley4528 Před 3 lety

      @@tams805 I could not wear it at all. It hurt my wrists

  • @theodorelife6883
    @theodorelife6883 Před 3 lety

    Is a power meter necessary to do the Orthostatic test?

  • @jean-christophebettinelli8727

    Did you slow down the video on purpose? You seem to talk slower than usual ;)

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +2

      Hahaha...I think maybe just a bit more tired than usual!

  • @patkob2180
    @patkob2180 Před 3 lety

    So if I have a fenix 6x...is this worth the upgrade

    • @burtonBG
      @burtonBG Před 3 lety +3

      no, I even think it's downgrade :D

    • @Cannonballdrive
      @Cannonballdrive Před 3 lety

      Haha, it will be downgrade. If F6x OHR is accurate on your hand and you work out with cheststrap, then going to Polar is downgrade

    • @patkob2180
      @patkob2180 Před 3 lety

      But what about the leg ready and vo2max test?

    • @burtonBG
      @burtonBG Před 3 lety +1

      @@patkob2180 as you can see from the video, Garmin shows almost the same VO2 number (57 vs 58). Leg recovery? Probably you'll use it once or twice and you'll forget about it. Vantage interface is still laggy and you don't have the crazy capable navigational and other functions. In my opinion you'll be disappointed after your experience with the 6x.

  • @dezsijanos
    @dezsijanos Před 3 lety

    After being a Polar Loop 1 then a Vantage V user, I can say that Polar lost my trust. I just ordered a Garmin Venu 2. I think the V2 is overpriced for what it offers. Yes, I agree that it’s purpose built, but I’m using my watch not just only for training. I want phone integration throughout the day and wireless payment. These are dealbreakers for me. Not to mention that Polar still not fixed a lot of annoying things for the Vantage, like the continuously upcoming fw upgrade notifications for versions that already installed months ago, saving option for the interval timers and the all or nothing phone notifications. And the list just continues.

  • @macktheinterloper
    @macktheinterloper Před 3 lety

    Thumbs up for the vid, but thumbs down for the watch. Really disappointed to hear about the HR and GPS inaccuracies, especially when cycling outdoors. You'd think that by now watch manufacturers would have worked out that these metrics are kind of important to us. I'm also starting to get tired of these full price incremental upgrades.

  • @ytpadyt
    @ytpadyt Před 3 lety +1

    Maps?

  • @antoniobridgeforth2362

    I’ll wait for the V2 Titan

  • @darkbrotherhood77
    @darkbrotherhood77 Před 3 lety +2

    Recycled watch, very large bezel almost half of the watch face is bezel ! Same interface and color scheme , to expensive for that price are better watches discounted garmin forerunner 945 and fenix 6 /6X

  • @albertogilrivas2466
    @albertogilrivas2466 Před 3 lety +8

    I've a Polar Vantage V and I'm very disappointed (and It's not my first Polar) but in this moment I would prefer a Garmin

    • @michaelschultze3595
      @michaelschultze3595 Před 3 lety +1

      Alberto Gil Rivas Same here. V800, OH1 Sync problems with iOS, Android, Mac. GPS issues ... The new Polar series haus a nice design, but thats not important over all ;-)

    • @get_outdoors
      @get_outdoors Před 3 lety +5

      Polar ANX500... V800... Vantage V which let me down big time on a 2 day hike, tired of Polar ditching their product once the next best thing is released. Moved over to a Garmin Fenix 6 Pro and Edge 530, in short I’m so happy with Garmin, I don’t know why I’ve been waist in my years of loyalty on Polar.

    • @albertogilrivas2466
      @albertogilrivas2466 Před 3 lety +5

      @@get_outdoors And costumer service is not the best

    • @albertogilrivas2466
      @albertogilrivas2466 Před 3 lety +2

      According to Polar Vantage, today I ran 77km to 399km per hour 😂... More speed than a formula 1 automobile.... They can't fix that, but are pretending I buy a Polar V2

    • @binkybruce
      @binkybruce Před 3 lety

      @@get_outdoors I'm trying to decided between a Polar V2 or going Garmin. Never used Garmin, do they do a training program like the FlowPolar?

  • @andrearota2976
    @andrearota2976 Před 3 lety

    Eat pasta
    GO FASTAAA

  • @m.g.6182
    @m.g.6182 Před 3 lety +2

    The running test is nothing really new with Polar. They had something similar decades ago...

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +3

      Sometimes, what's old is new again.

  • @yakiweiss546
    @yakiweiss546 Před 3 lety

    It's so frustrating the differences between watch(vantage v) results and the Strava app. I usually run and swim, In open water it is the worst. makes me think about my next watch ..

  • @eingast7798
    @eingast7798 Před 3 lety +1

    had been a polar user, now a satisfied garmin FR245 user. But the price for something that average is really getting ridiculous. Never ever I would pay more than $€300 for a regular watch (same goes for garmin). My training matters, not the funny watch.

  • @abbottsmilereviews6112

    500 dollars for that watch is ridiculous. Should have a bezeless oled dial and watch faces as with android os.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety

      Why?

    • @abbottsmilereviews6112
      @abbottsmilereviews6112 Před 3 lety

      @@Dcrainmaker cuz the quality should meet the price and software.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 3 lety +1

      @@abbottsmilereviews6112 Except an OLED display kills battery life. The purpose of this watch - arguably single focused purpose - is as a multisport triathlon watch that gets you through an Ironman Race - so, max 17 hours. Or, an ultra run at 30-40 hours. There's zero OLED/AMOLED/LCD screen on the market that comes close to that with GPS. Thus, it's really not the same purpose at this point. And WearOS is a big part of that battery burn - as we see on the Suunto 7 for example.

  • @mattbrn4369
    @mattbrn4369 Před 3 lety

    Do you agree that it is just a firmware update? I really didn't like it when they said they won't introduce the updates to the previous version. proves my theory that only software is updated, now 550 bucks for a software? noway bro. And Polar lost a fan right here. they stooped too low on this.

  • @fidelbanuelos9601
    @fidelbanuelos9601 Před 3 lety

    I stopped listening at the 8 minute mark when I found out there isn't any music storage on the watch. Boo.

  • @ricedumplings3767
    @ricedumplings3767 Před 3 lety

    So the gritx won't even have the dashboard customization? Shame on polar :(

  • @beano2009
    @beano2009 Před 3 lety

    "Kinda of a nice touch...."

  • @MyMd1111
    @MyMd1111 Před 3 lety +2

    😂😂😂😂 bought the initial V, won’t do the same mistake twice.....

    • @get_outdoors
      @get_outdoors Před 3 lety +1

      No longer supported, old tech now. Polar dumps on its customers all the time, moved over to Garmin Fenix 6, there’s no comparison to Polar, don’t know why I wasted all those years with Polar products

    • @MyMd1111
      @MyMd1111 Před 3 lety

      @Chokwe because they marketed the optical HR sensor as the best in the industry.
      That was a lie.
      The overall handling just sucks. You can’t leave a workout without closing it for example.
      OS development takes forever, it was in beta state when it was first sold
      And so on and so on....

    • @binkybruce
      @binkybruce Před 3 lety

      @@get_outdoors how long have you been using Garmin? Do you track swimming with it too? Does it give a workout program based on your stats?

  • @kammis1608
    @kammis1608 Před 3 lety

    The watch shows the wrong wake-up time and unfortunately it cannot be edited. Poor product

  • @atakan5909
    @atakan5909 Před 3 lety +3

    Polar is stupid. No music storage in 2020? PASS!!!

    • @burtonBG
      @burtonBG Před 3 lety +2

      Dude, in 2020 no one stores music files. Just use your phone and a streaming service.

    • @narosser
      @narosser Před 3 lety +2

      burtonBG dude - actually lots of people use music on their watch in 2020. Maybe you don’t, or some folks you run with don’t, but I know LOTS of people who do. There’s clearly a need in the market. It’s always funny when people extrapolate their needs or interests or wishes as being representative of the ENTIRE market. Everyone wants different stuff.

    • @atakan5909
      @atakan5909 Před 3 lety

      @@narosser No man, this is clearly stupid.

    • @fidelbanuelos9601
      @fidelbanuelos9601 Před 3 lety +3

      @@burtonBG Who still runs with their phone?

    • @burtonBG
      @burtonBG Před 3 lety +2

      @@fidelbanuelos9601 most of the people do. It's a useful device and can save your life in case of emergency. Just put it in a running belt or sleeve. It's far less hassle than having to sync files to your watch every time when you want new music. And if you after all insist to store your music why it has to be on your watch? There are tons of sport headphones with built in player and storage.