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Danny Seraphine: Drugs, Recording Live at Carnegie Hall, Producer David Foster & Losing Peter Cetera

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2020
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Komentáře • 771

  • @AFmedic
    @AFmedic Před 2 lety +222

    Unlike the interviews with other band members, Danny did not trash them the way they trashed Danny. More importantly he acknowledged some blame and admitted making mistakes, unlike the others that made like they were perfect and it was someone else's fault.
    I have a lot of respect for Danny.

    • @trollhunterhound1505
      @trollhunterhound1505 Před 2 lety +8

      ditto that..

    • @svkyseth1
      @svkyseth1 Před 2 lety +20

      Danny has made a couple swipes at Pankow but usually that was after Pankow said something snarky about Danny. He certainly didn't start it. But absolutely have a lot of respect for Danny.

    • @laurenval2370
      @laurenval2370 Před 2 lety +12

      He's a class act!

    • @7389
      @7389 Před rokem +10

      Agree. Danny is a first class drummer and person.

    • @TheBuddhaDa
      @TheBuddhaDa Před rokem +3

      💯

  • @robertcaputo4861
    @robertcaputo4861 Před 11 měsíci +33

    Danny is one of the best drummers to ever sit behind a drum kit. No matter what anyone says or thinks, his style has always been amazing.

    • @jimmienonya8912
      @jimmienonya8912 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I totally do agree, he is a true badass......

    • @AFmedic
      @AFmedic Před 2 měsíci +1

      That has has always been one of my pet peeves. Every time you see a list of "Greatest Drummers" two names are consistently missing from that list. Danny Seraphine and Michael Shrieve (Santana).
      Other names on the list have their kit of a Gazillion drums and cymbals yet both Danny and Mike using basically a "starter kit" (Bass, snare, 1 or 2 toms, a floor tom, high-hat cymbal, and a crash and a rider cymbal) consistently "killed it". Watch any video of Chicago at Tanglewood or Santana at Woodstock or Tanglewood.

  • @rockn24x7goog
    @rockn24x7goog Před 2 lety +64

    I agree with Mr. Seraphine in stating that Terry Kath was the soul of the band, and that no other guitarist could ever fill his shoes... I hope that Mr. Seraphine finds some peace in it all... great interview!

    • @jimkuz27
      @jimkuz27 Před 2 lety +8

      The band was never the same after Terry passed!

  • @chriscureton622
    @chriscureton622 Před 2 lety +36

    DANNY'S DRUMMING ON CHICAGO'S MAKE ME SMILE... DESERVES A LISTEN FROM EVERYONE TO OBSERVE HIS GREATNESS...💥

  • @WldHny1
    @WldHny1 Před 3 lety +67

    The first three Chicago albums are absolutely brilliant, light years ahead of anything else. They have not aged.

    • @ArnoldArchives
      @ArnoldArchives Před 2 lety +3

      Chicago V, VI, and VII should be added to that list as well, and Hot Streets is underrated too. (Yes, I know that Dacus was no Kath, but the band still wrote and recorded some great music after Terry's passing, and Danny and Peter both reached their musical peaks between 1978 and 1980, especially live. UNBELIEVABLE chops!)

    • @claradiaz3147
      @claradiaz3147 Před měsícem

      Jimi Hendrix told a West Village underground rock magazine re Terry Kath, "That cat is better than me!" and he also praised Cetera's bass playing.

  • @dalezjc
    @dalezjc Před 2 lety +51

    Another great interview! Danny Seraphine takes the high road here about his termination from Chicago and he should be applauded for that. Other original members (especially Lamm) continue to bash Danny every chance they get, and the whole notion that he got fired was because he "didn't have the chops anymore", is ludicrous beyond belief. Seraphine is one of the top rock drummers that has ever sat behind a kit.

    • @jamesparker1063
      @jamesparker1063 Před rokem +2

      LOL, no kidding! How much "chops" do you need, to play "Hard to Say I'm Sorry"? LOL!!

    • @kimberlypennell7488
      @kimberlypennell7488 Před rokem

      Danny took a higher road in this interview than he did in his book, that's for sure!

    • @boardmanfan
      @boardmanfan Před 2 měsíci +3

      I think Lamm and especially Pankow are arrogant. Just my opinion.

  • @tonyalfano2479
    @tonyalfano2479 Před 2 lety +77

    Danny’s drumming was every bit as important as the Chicago horns. He didn’t just play rock and 2&4 beats, he created complicated, unique drum parts. I love Chicago V. Give it a good listen. Fantastic drumming.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 2 lety +15

      Tony…. I am a huge fan of Danny as a drummer. He was among the first 5 musicians I contacted to place a exhibit in the museum in 2004. Since then we’ve become close friends. I agree with you on the importance of Danny’s contribution to the bands sound but James Pankow’s horn arrangements and scores as well as songwriting along with Terry Kath’s guitar and vocals put the band over the top in my opinion. Actually the whole band was a perfect combination…. Best, Joe

    • @danielweeks3723
      @danielweeks3723 Před rokem +3

      Yeah man, he and Terry chopping it up. Awesome.

    • @neckarsulme
      @neckarsulme Před rokem +8

      Yes! Danny was a very creative drummer and came up with drum parts that were just the right fit for the songs...he is a complex player but not complex for the sake of being complex

    • @jamesparker1063
      @jamesparker1063 Před rokem +3

      @@neckarsulme well put!!

    • @randysteele6741
      @randysteele6741 Před rokem +6

      Joe, thanks for acknowledgin*g the importance of James Pankow's brilliance. He's a monster's monster who gets overlooked by the Kath and Cetera fans, not that those guys don't deserve their popularity. His unique composing, arranging and playing was as important to the band's success as TK's and PC's, and was an indespensable part of the "Chicago sound."

  • @figgybass
    @figgybass Před 3 lety +86

    I saw a Johnny Carson show once where Buddy named his top 5 favorite drummers. Danny Seraphine was one of them.

    • @artcorvolet
      @artcorvolet Před 3 lety +3

      I've never been able to find the clip

    • @figgybass
      @figgybass Před 3 lety +4

      @@artcorvolet Me neither, I remember seeing the original show though.

    • @fyoukungflu5881
      @fyoukungflu5881 Před 3 lety +10

      who was Buddy's favorite drummer?? Himself.............

    • @RebeccaLynnMusic
      @RebeccaLynnMusic Před 2 lety +2

      No way! Thank you for that!

    • @tommycollins7846
      @tommycollins7846 Před 2 lety +1

      I think the Carson estate would have to search for that clip of Buddy saying that Danny was one of his favorite drummers.

  • @scottstrand1874
    @scottstrand1874 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Duluth Minnesota the fall of 1972. Danny was on fire, all over the kit! Terry at the top of his game. The entire band was brilliant! So glad I got to experience the best horn band in history!

  • @adude394
    @adude394 Před rokem +29

    Watching this on the 45th anniversary of Terry's death. How sad, how poignant, such a loss for music. Terry was one of a kind, and Danny was right; the band really was never quite the same afterwards.

  • @dkinblu
    @dkinblu Před 4 lety +180

    Danny needs to be given more credit for Chicago’s success

    • @TimothyOBrien1958
      @TimothyOBrien1958 Před 3 lety +13

      He created Chicago. How do you fire the man who created the band and was always a hard worker? Mystified me.

    • @josephmartinez8803
      @josephmartinez8803 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TimothyOBrien1958
      Agree, but it happens.

    • @TimothyOBrien1958
      @TimothyOBrien1958 Před 3 lety +11

      @@josephmartinez8803 He helped Robert Lamm get back on his feet after Cocaine was set to destroy him. They held his spot. Danny's wife was dealing with cancer and a newborn. He was having trouble and needed time, but they just bounced him. That officially destroyed Chicago.

    • @MusicGunn
      @MusicGunn Před 3 lety +5

      It's not like his playing dropped off. Yeah it just sounds like a power play and I fault the remaining original members for not sticking by him. Having said that, none of us know what the inner workings were like. Not to excuse those remaining originals, but perhaps he had become problematic in attitude or something. I'm not saying that was the case I am merely speculating. He seems very down to earth and reasonable to me in this interview. Bottom line is those guys should have had his back.

    • @TimothyOBrien1958
      @TimothyOBrien1958 Před 3 lety +10

      @@MusicGunn I read Danny's book, which is completely his POV. He doesn't candy-coat things. But the bottom line was that when the others had really bad problems, Danny stuck with them and lobbied to keep them in the band. When they needed him, they were traitors. They forced Cetera out. They fired Danny. Chicago is dead to me from them on.

  • @nickf2170
    @nickf2170 Před 4 měsíci +9

    I think when he mentions the diverse styles within the band, some jazz, some rock, some contry, ballads, free form and more....this is what made Chicago unique and special to the fans. The music WAS diverse, (and masterfully performed), and this kept it from all sounding the same, or getting stale. Very high quality stuff. Mainstream critics didn't get it, Chicago didn't conform to their narrow minded expectations....but the fans, were totally hooked on what they were doing.

  • @kingktakeiarthurbrown1226

    Danny's drumming on Beginnings was sublime!!!!

    • @arfshesaid4325
      @arfshesaid4325 Před rokem +1

      his parts were perfect, equal chops and groove , wasnt close after he left........i think you could say a lot of players are cool with a drum machine kinda vibe, the real greats know better

    • @AFmedic
      @AFmedic Před 2 měsíci

      Also on Dialogue Part 1 and 2. Ahhh, who am I trying to kid? EVERYTIME Danny was at the kit it was awesome.

  • @joe6096
    @joe6096 Před 3 lety +85

    Danny, Terry, and Peter were the backbone of the band. The heart of the rhythm. Without them there's really no Chicago.

    • @chriscureton622
      @chriscureton622 Před 2 lety +3

      AGREED 💥

    • @he5975
      @he5975 Před 2 lety +6

      Big dis to R.Lamm.

    • @paullebaron535
      @paullebaron535 Před 2 lety +4

      Terry definitely yes --- Danny great drummer -- Peter had unique voice but He wasn't a true leader, he & Foster tried to take over and make band something it wasn't.

    • @chrissygerwitz520
      @chrissygerwitz520 Před 2 lety +8

      If you mean "Danny, Terry, Peter and Bobby were the backbone of the band", you would be correct.

    • @williamroark
      @williamroark Před 2 lety +1

      Um, James Pankow had a MAJOR part
      (He only WROTE a majority of the HITS… AND ALL THE “HORN ARRANGEMENTS)
      “Chicago” was certainly FORMED around Terry
      What a LOSS!!!💔
      “Get rid of THE HORNS to GET BACK ON THE RADIO??” - Danny
      (YEAH, …..I can see why you were fired!!)

  • @fyoukungflu5881
    @fyoukungflu5881 Před 3 lety +15

    I wish Danny was "totally" honest and stated the real truth about David Foster. True Chicago fans, those with the band when they were CTA and even before with the Big Thing, truly dislike their work after Terry's death. They had gone soft and overproduced. Sure, they sold a ton and the $$ was good, but their great 10 year run was truly over with the loss of Kath. Great interview, by the way, thanks for letting the subject speak without interruption.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts flu... joe

    • @fyoukungflu5881
      @fyoukungflu5881 Před 3 lety +5

      @@MusiciansHallofFameMuseum Thanks Joe, your interviews are "solid." Really good. As much as I love Chicago, their stuff up and until Terry's death was incomparable. After 1978, its as if they lost their way and never found it. Yes, 16 and 17 sold a ton of albums, but its not always about sales. They got "weak" with Foster at the helm and quite frankly, turned into a soft bubblegum pop band. All power ballads and oh so sugar sweet. Yes, I know, it's all about the $$, but seems to me like they sold out. Terry would be spinning in his grave to hear the drek from 1980 through current. I've seen them several times since 2010 and they don't even talk about Terry or bring up his name. Sad, so sad. I gather from your questions that you, like I, believe that one of their best all time songs was 25/6/4. July 1970 at Tanglewood is the apex of that performance.

    • @fyoukungflu5881
      @fyoukungflu5881 Před 3 lety +2

      @@aubindemontfalcon5967 16 ad the rest are missing Terry's guitar and great singing. NOT.THE. SAME

    • @dansavik7137
      @dansavik7137 Před 2 měsíci +1

      16 - 21 were really good albums. So it depends who you ask.

  • @jimkuz27
    @jimkuz27 Před 2 lety +31

    After hearing this i now have a new respect for Peter Cetera. I thought bad things of him when he left, now i see what happened!

    • @pattiboyes686
      @pattiboyes686 Před 2 lety +11

      Yes....if you read Danny's book you get a better understanding of the downward spiral of the band and how Peter was forced out. He has taken quite a bit of abuse over the years from people mostly thinking it was his ego.

    • @mustadoredogs
      @mustadoredogs Před rokem +4

      I LOVE PETER CETERA!!!

    • @janetlauer8382
      @janetlauer8382 Před rokem +8

      @@pattiboyes686 Right and people don't understand why he doesn't want to get back with the band. There would have to be hard feelings from the way they've bad mouthed him (Cetera) over the years. If one watches the various interviews and documentaries about the band, you can see that Cetera seldom says anything bad about the remaining members and everyone who has left has said they got along with PC and liked him.

  • @craigfazekas3923
    @craigfazekas3923 Před 3 lety +36

    When speaking of Terry ? It's amazing, because Danny is still clearly affected by his loss- his body language says it all....
    He shifts in his seat, his face changes, he grabs his mouth/jaw area- I think he may well be fighting the urge to cry.
    Truly moving, and a great testament for his love for Terry Kath.
    Awesome segment; THANK YOU ❣❣❣
    🚬😎

  • @robertlunn3678
    @robertlunn3678 Před rokem +21

    How can you not like this guy? In many ways, he’s the real personality of the city. ( a bit insecure or reluctant to praise.)
    This band you wanted to love but never got all of it until later. Terry Kath was great both as a musician and singer. I mean top 5-7 ever for me.
    Loved interview too.

  • @joememphis1571
    @joememphis1571 Před 2 lety +23

    Chicago from 1970 to 1978 were pure class from a musical standpoint. Danny is one of the all time great drummers in music history. Great rhythm, timing, technical skills and musical intellect.

  • @gilkozlowski6363
    @gilkozlowski6363 Před 2 lety +28

    Going to the roadie's house , sitting next to Terry head hunched over and saying his goodbyes to him brought tears to my eyes. I love both of these guys! And you don't fire the guy that all he wanted to do was play drums for Chicago!

    • @jimkuz27
      @jimkuz27 Před 2 lety +9

      Terry Kath had passed by the time Danny was fired! Danny left in 1990! Terry died in 78! I think the band made a huge mistake in firing Him!

  • @gmb858
    @gmb858 Před 4 lety +101

    Danny's drum solo in "I'm A Man" is totally unique and, in my eyes, the benchmark that all drummers should try to reach. It fit the arrangement perfectly and added a "heaviness" that metal bands would try to emulate for years.

    • @dkinblu
      @dkinblu Před 4 lety +6

      Saw Chicago at a cold and wet Rock Festival in Kansas City, at a Dragstrip, in around 1969 or 1970, sat on ground right in front of the band playing I’m A Man, amazing .

    • @ront4782
      @ront4782 Před 4 lety +3

      Mike Shreive may have something to say about this, playing Woodstock at age 16 and yes, he was 16 not 18.

    • @hollywoodusmcboss8867
      @hollywoodusmcboss8867 Před 4 lety +4

      Yep these guys knew their instruments and were tight not only on them but they were tight as friends

    • @GentlemanAmerican
      @GentlemanAmerican Před 3 lety +2

      "I'm A Man" is one of my favorites by Chicago.

    • @mrtonod
      @mrtonod Před 3 lety +2

      I'm A Man is a standout anthem that cannot be ignored and as with many of CTA works, Danny was instrumental in setting off the arrangement. Keep in mind that this work was emulated by many other genres.

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn Před 3 lety +32

    Love Danny’s straightforwardness. Honesty. Danny is totally right in that keeping Peter Cetera in the band would have been a boost for Chicago. Chicago 17 is a terrific record.

  • @jobai3229
    @jobai3229 Před 2 lety +23

    I'm loving these interviews. Mr. Chambers lets the interviewee speak without interrupting and asks great questions.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 2 lety +5

      Thanks Jo…. I appreciate your supporting our channel….Joe

    • @DiegoRamirez-zc7fs
      @DiegoRamirez-zc7fs Před 10 měsíci +1

      Excellent interview and great presentation. Mr. Chambers asks well-informed questions and doesn’t interrupt.

  • @redginaldsanders6122
    @redginaldsanders6122 Před rokem +17

    This Guy is an All Time great guy! I Truly wish that I knew him. One of the GREAT Drummer's from the 70's. Thank you for this Interview..... Just Excellent!!! And Thank You Danny!!

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před rokem +2

      Redginald… my dad, Joe, passed September 28th, but I know he would have really appreciated your kind comments. Danny really is a really kind person on top of being a great musician.
      Thanks for your support of the channel & hope you can visit the museum some time as well.
      Best,
      Britt

    • @arfshesaid4325
      @arfshesaid4325 Před rokem +1

      @@MusiciansHallofFameMuseum so sorry for your loss, my condolences to you and yours......these interviews were fantastic stuff and will go down as important documents for the music world to learn from

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Redginald.

  • @TruthHurts58
    @TruthHurts58 Před 4 lety +173

    The biggest mistake Chicago ever made was not getting Terry help. 2nd biggest was not letting Peter have Phil Colins/Genesis arrangement to do solo work, and the nail in their coffin was firing Danny. Now they are officially a tribute band.

    • @josephmartinez8803
      @josephmartinez8803 Před 4 lety +46

      According to Danny, the majority of the band needed help. The drug use continued after Terry's death.
      The band's biggest mistake was not working out a arrangement with Peter, ala Phil Collins/Genesis arrangement.
      And not to knock on Danny's talent, but there are plenty of good drummers.
      Bottom line, Terry Kath and Peter Cetera cannot be replaced. They were the oil and gas of the band.

    • @TruthHurts58
      @TruthHurts58 Před 4 lety +20

      Joseph Martinez very true. Once in a lifetime talents, both of them. Horn players and crooning keyboardists are also a dime a dozen.

    • @shannonfout
      @shannonfout Před 4 lety +42

      It’s been said, A great band sounds good with a good drummer - a good band sounds great with a great drummer. Danny is one of the best.

    • @sldl04
      @sldl04 Před 3 lety +26

      They've been a tribute band for years in my opinion. When Cetera left they had success for another 4 years but they were never the same.

    • @spaceghost8995
      @spaceghost8995 Před 3 lety +17

      @@josephmartinez8803 Don't downplay his drumming ability.

  • @SteveDrury88
    @SteveDrury88 Před 2 lety +22

    what an astonishingly articulate, introspective, humble and confident musician. an inspiration to all of us who make noises for a living.

  • @jimfladwood4393
    @jimfladwood4393 Před 2 lety +13

    Great drummer and such a moderate man. Very kind...

    • @jimfladwood4393
      @jimfladwood4393 Před 2 lety +1

      Danny held Chicago together at very tough times.The loss of Terry,
      and other members lost in
      the conflict of drugs!
      Such an amazing man.

  • @edwardcarranza3697
    @edwardcarranza3697 Před 2 lety +17

    I was really impressed with this interview!! What made me a real fan of Mr Seraphine when he paid a compliment to Sina of "Sina-drums"after she performed 25 to 6 to 4 on drums!! She is truly talented!!!

  • @jamescrouch3217
    @jamescrouch3217 Před 4 lety +94

    I absolutely loved this interview! It’s about as genuine and real as you can get. I’ll cherish this one! Great interview!

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks James.... Joe

    • @vicjoyce15
      @vicjoyce15 Před 3 lety

      Danny's great. But the interviewer did virtually no homework. "How long did you stay in the band after Peter left?" Really? Ever hear of Google?

    • @nanlev613
      @nanlev613 Před 2 lety +3

      Joe wants to hear the information directly from the person, so it may appear that he didn’t prepare but that may not be accurate. Also the internet isn’t always accurate as you already know so it’s just better to ask the person directly.

    • @arfshesaid4325
      @arfshesaid4325 Před rokem

      @@vicjoyce15 kind of a dumb statement.....its called an interview, a good one should have appeal to the uninitiated to the seasoned fan.....these are great ones

    • @themix5317
      @themix5317 Před rokem

      @arf shesaid well I'm not looking for info most fans know from the 80s. "Kind of dumb" not to know such stuff when the huy has been a solo artist for decades.

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve Před 4 lety +68

    Great interview Joe! Danny hit the nail on the proverbial head when he said: "Chicago was the whole package". Probably the greatest band in Rock History............ 👍👍🎸🎸🎤🎤👍👍

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks again Steve.... Joe

    • @hollywoodusmcboss8867
      @hollywoodusmcboss8867 Před 3 lety +1

      Id give that a big 10 4..yep

    • @mrtonod
      @mrtonod Před 3 lety

      As i've said before, I think that their excellent horn section ultimately distanced them from rock hero status, unfortunately so.

    • @trubowspiritwind
      @trubowspiritwind Před 2 lety +6

      I am and have been an ardent Led Zeppelin fan but when it comes down to the total package of musicians then you cannot come close to Chicago. The only thing that could stop them was from within.

  • @BatTube2000
    @BatTube2000 Před rokem +12

    The first time I ever heard Chicago was in the music room of my junior high school in 1976 when someone put one of their records on during a lunch break. It was the closest thing to a religious experience I'd ever had. I felt the heart and soul of music for the first time and it changed my life forever. It was then that I realized what music is capable of and I decided to become a musician myself. Music is a God given gift that anyone who has it, like the members of Chicago, can use to to change the hearts and souls of people like it did mine to make the world a better place.

    • @demonrouge3338
      @demonrouge3338 Před rokem +2

      Well said I feel that too. Sometimes I try to imagine what it would be like without the great bands that I have heard in my life. Who would I be? What would I think? How would I think? These bands planted some thing in us that grew into some thing for all of us.

  • @olin.9634
    @olin.9634 Před 2 lety +24

    I'm a Chicago Fan since 1978. At this time i was 10 years old and i heard
    Chicago V all the time.
    The records from '69 till' 77 are absolutly
    brillant.
    Danny is a great drummer and a humble guy!! Greetings from Germany

  • @xp50player
    @xp50player Před 3 lety +14

    I could listen to this guy all day. He has such a cool and humble attitude about everything.

  • @brucemoeller
    @brucemoeller Před 3 lety +14

    The core of Chicago was their pure musicianship. From the "one two three four" until the end....they played their music completely. Jazz, Rock, Horns, and three guys who could sing. Great band. To this day, they are a band filled with talent, albeit different members.

  • @beegee1323
    @beegee1323 Před 2 lety +18

    Probably the most balanced interview from a Chicago member that I've ever seen. He candidly discussed the highs and lows as well as issues with individual members. The difference from other band members' interviews is he was respectful to all members. He highlighted the issues without trashing any of his band mates. I especially love the part where he compared Cetera to Phil Collins and the way that Phil successfully navigated being a solo artist and Genesis band member but Chicago egos would not allow Cetera to chart a similar course. I've always made the same comparison in my mind.

    • @gooddaysahead1
      @gooddaysahead1 Před 10 měsíci

      Lamm's early interviews were pretty balanced... not so much his later ones.

    • @beegee1323
      @beegee1323 Před 10 měsíci

      @gooddaysahead1 Interesting. I've never listened to early Lamm interviews. His later ones definitely showcase his political skills but in fairness, he has to walk a fine line as he is still a band member.

  • @kavehnouraee7966
    @kavehnouraee7966 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Danny Seraphine is quite simply one of the greatest drummers, period.

  • @davidwilley3609
    @davidwilley3609 Před rokem +9

    Chicago was unique and the respect that they were all top top musicians most of them read music pretty much could’ve played for any band in the studio as back up phenomenal these were jazz musicians I have a great appreciation for this band as I’ve gotten older

  • @joegarcia9742
    @joegarcia9742 Před rokem +11

    Chicago had a solid band (understatement of the century). That foundation was bad ass.... Danny a monster on drums ...I did not truly appreciate and recognize Terry's guitar work and Peter's bass until years later when I start playing guitar and bass. 80s music went pop and lots of artists followed. But "vintage Chicago ' .... legendary icons.

  • @d.od.3463
    @d.od.3463 Před 2 lety +15

    Danny; I must let you know that at almost 80 years old I've always been a Chicago fan, but even more importantly, ever since I saw you playing drums you've been, by several degrees, my favorite drummer. and believe me, I've seen some of the best! Boy, I do miss the old days when you were all just new and you led the charge in the drum arena. No one could play like you. I don't know why or how anyone could put you or your talent down but I guess some of the other guys did. I'm more than surprised, I'm shocked! I pray that you are well and good and have found success in your life. God bless! D.O'D.

  • @gerryjamesedwards1227
    @gerryjamesedwards1227 Před 4 lety +31

    What a lovely, humble guy!

  • @kc0lif
    @kc0lif Před 4 lety +30

    danny seraphine great guy great drummer.

  • @rogerarmstrong8893
    @rogerarmstrong8893 Před 2 lety +13

    The very first time I heard Chicago I had tears of joy I could not belive what I was hearing I literally pulled my car over turned up the radio and set in amazement There was rock soul jazz blues incredible bands and then came chicago I was blown away .

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 2 lety +3

      Me too Roger. I was coming home late after a gig one night in the driveway of one of my band members when 25 or 6 to 4 came on the am radio. We couldn’t believe what we were hearing. Best, Joe

    • @jimlavallee4418
      @jimlavallee4418 Před rokem

      My first recollection of Chicago was in 1968. I was 15 and living in The Los Angeles area. A FM station played side one record one of the black CTA album. I was hooked. I have seen the band live about 70 times in 12 states. I have also gone back stage about ten times. Best Concert was 1997 at the Hollywood Bowl. Oh by the way, Tris Imboden was also a fantastic drummer for Chicago. Danny was great too.

  • @markshina3511
    @markshina3511 Před 3 lety +12

    Danny was my hero growing up. Didn’t just sit back. Taught me what to do in a band. Filled those songs with priceless drum moments. Mitch Mitchell HAD to play busy because he was in a trio. Danny didn’t have to but he did anyway and did it so artfully that the tunes wouldn’t sound right without him

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Mark… I agree with your comments. Danny is a close friend and I also knew Mitch. I will never forget the look on his face when I told him that the Hendrix Experience would “NOT” have been the same without him. I told him he owned Manic Depression and no one could’ve kept up with Jimi on that recording but him. He was a likable guy. Best, Joe

  • @palestiniansojourner3231
    @palestiniansojourner3231 Před 3 lety +7

    never point a gun even if you think its not loaded

    • @bradlyscotunes9156
      @bradlyscotunes9156 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Was taught that @ age 5; 1st rule, intro to gun handling.

  • @anthonydavis4829
    @anthonydavis4829 Před 4 lety +17

    A once in a lifetime band whose music will be taught in classes to come.

  • @ront4782
    @ront4782 Před 4 lety +23

    Holly cow! I was at that Fillmore West concert. Both CTA and Santana stole the show. First time I ever smoked pot. I was 13 and hitchhiked from the East Bay. Janis was good but not "on" that night but Santana and CTA was epic! Both so new and fresh with never before heard of sounds. I had to tell everyone about that night.

  • @edalexander6155
    @edalexander6155 Před rokem +2

    Danny Terry and Petter was the heart of this band. It lost something when they left. Ballads killed the band. First 7 albums where the best

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 Před rokem +12

    Excellent interview....and fascinating information coming directly from Danny. I'm 66, and recall when Chicago's first album came out. As a young guitarist myself, I steeped myself in the playing of Terry Kath and Chicago's innovative music. The solo in Make me smile just stopped me in my tracks. That solo really set the bar very high for guitarists. Even today, guitar players don't play that solo because it just too difficult. Back to Danny....I didn't realize that he was that well studied in jazz technique. That's why he knew how to swing, even in a rock setting. Oh...and I didn't know Danny was the guy that got Bill into the group. I was a big Son's of Champlin fan so when Bill joined Chicago, I thought that was some of the best music they'd done in years. Listen to Chicago 18....Bill is all over that album.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před rokem +1

      Tom, my dad, Joe, passed September 28th, but I know he would have appreciated your kind comment. Terry Kath was also his favorite. Thank you for supporting the channel- hope you can visit the museum sometime.
      Best,
      Britt

    • @davecolonna8040
      @davecolonna8040 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Bill was more all over 19 - especially 4 of the 5 the hits.

    • @bradlyscotunes9156
      @bradlyscotunes9156 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I went to Tamalpais Hi, Mill Valley 69-72; big Sons of Champlain fan; drummer was an alumni; they had horns & radio hits b4 Chicago! Sons played @ least 1 concert @ our amphitheater; then saw them more times. Pleased to see Bill in Chicago!

    • @bradlyscotunes9156
      @bradlyscotunes9156 Před 4 měsíci

      Sons' Terry Haggerty was great fusion guitarist, too!

  • @dawnepps3565
    @dawnepps3565 Před 2 lety +7

    Such a profound perspective of how Danny Seraphine reflects on the band.

  • @davidcorsi4665
    @davidcorsi4665 Před 4 lety +38

    Thanks for doing Danny's interview and all the interviews you have done. Great to hear the stories and the fact that a real musician conducted them. Joe thanks so much. Chicago is my favorite band of all time and the rhythm section of Kath, Cetera and Seraphine in my opinion was the ultimate rock rhythm section.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 4 lety +2

      David.... It was great fun for me too... thanks again... Joe

    • @danielweeks3723
      @danielweeks3723 Před rokem

      Man if you're sitting in with those guys(that rhythm sectionj) if you don't sound good, it ain't them.

  • @kevinherd3437
    @kevinherd3437 Před 4 lety +27

    They were a great band and were a mainstay on the charts for at least 20years, but Terry Kath was a force. His vocals and guitar on Dialogue were epic.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for watching Kevin... I agree ... Joe

    • @user-cr2yz6kj9z
      @user-cr2yz6kj9z Před 9 měsíci

      I never went to another Chicago concert after Terry died, was never the same for me. I had seen them 5 times in concert. Last one was 1977 at the Alladin in Vegas. 3 months b4 he died.

  • @markwaldron6458
    @markwaldron6458 Před 2 lety +8

    Probably the best interview I have ever heard, and I have been a huge fan since the early days. Danny so classy and his honesty and assessment so sincere and helped me understand why things happened.

  • @sammyvh11
    @sammyvh11 Před 2 lety +15

    He's a stud of a drummer. Tough guy too. His story about sitting next to Terry with his brains blown out teared me up. Next to Ed Van Halen Terry is my favorite guitarist. Now Ed is gone too. All my heros are checking out.

  • @mikefox2353
    @mikefox2353 Před rokem +6

    chicago--epic arrangements--great vocal diversity-spectacular guitar playing--the whole enchilada --will always be relevant!!!!

  • @ministerofdarkness
    @ministerofdarkness Před 4 lety +20

    I always loved the extra stuff they tucked away in their LPs. Booklets, posters, stickers, and even an iron on patch for a t-shirt. Great records period! PLAY LOUD 🎸🎹🥁🎷🎺

    • @chickenjo23
      @chickenjo23 Před 2 lety +2

      The red cardinal album. I still have mine in mint condition with the patch still inside the cover.

    • @cheril8891
      @cheril8891 Před měsícem

      ministerofdarkness: I remember the large iron-on Chicago logo patch. I ironed it on a very pale yellow 70's girls T. I loved that top. Wish I still had it. I was in my early 20's.

  • @MASTERTHEMEME
    @MASTERTHEMEME Před rokem +3

    Danny is a very lovely man! I listen to him in this interview in awe of how wonderful a person he is. Great Great man! God bless you Danny!

  • @matthewmuller5794
    @matthewmuller5794 Před 4 lety +16

    Such a great drummer. He talks about the playing, which was superb, but there have been groups that got together and didn't have great songs. Chicago had GREAT songwriters.

  • @gregorykrug8034
    @gregorykrug8034 Před 4 lety +26

    I love CZcams! I am digging the interviews with rock stars (especially the great ones who do not get as much attention as some of the others, like Danny Seraphine).

  • @nanlev613
    @nanlev613 Před 2 lety +8

    His story proves that people can’t be trusted! They shook hands and said the only way someone will leave the band is if they choose to leave or they die…what happened to that???!!!!!

  • @vcr210
    @vcr210 Před 3 lety +8

    Met Danny at a drum show in Chicago. What a gentleman and living legend of music. He is an original!!!

  • @user-nq9gz4xf7f
    @user-nq9gz4xf7f Před 2 lety +6

    I love these old rockers telling their stories from the golden age of rock which was fantastic compared to the drivel put out today. I loved Chicago especially early 70s. The rock stars were unleashed on the world like demi gods and some lost touch with the earth. Its wonderful to see some who have survived and matured, even humble and who are not so different from you and me.

  • @runninamuk8947
    @runninamuk8947 Před 4 lety +13

    Happy Birthday, Danny Seraphine. You're an amazing drummer. Thank you for bringing us great music!

  • @richardboughton8338
    @richardboughton8338 Před 2 lety +4

    Up until Terry Kath left us Chicago were my favourite band. To this day i still play the first 5 albums regularly along with the several live albums that were commercially released. The recent Isle of Wight live set reminds me of just how great they were on stage.

    • @trainfire2008
      @trainfire2008 Před rokem +1

      Tell me about Isle of Wight…….Chicago did a concert or concerts there❔

    • @richardboughton8338
      @richardboughton8338 Před rokem +1

      @@trainfire2008 Hi. Chicago headlined along with Hendrix and The Doors amongst many others played at the Isle of Wight Festival (the UK's answer to Woodstock 😊) on August 28th,1970.A great double album was released a couple of years ago and is well worth forking out for if, like me you are a bit of a fanboy.

  • @markschanewolf5009
    @markschanewolf5009 Před 3 lety +9

    Well done. I really enjoyed that 2 parter with Danny.
    Man, that original Chicago lineup was a fantastic collection of talented musicians that had such a unique sound.

  • @philengel2
    @philengel2 Před 2 lety +5

    I decided at age 13, after my dad took me to see Buddy Rich play live that I, too, wanted to be a drummer. My first rock concert was Chicago in the mid-70's and I was mesmerized by Danny Seraphine's drumming. He was a huge influence on me, as I practiced 'Devil's Suite' on my red sparkle drums in my bedroom. I couldn't match his playing but who can? I really miss the power and skill he brought to the stage. So happy to have come across this interview.

  • @westminsterpastor3830
    @westminsterpastor3830 Před 4 lety +39

    I heard an interview with some of the guys in the band, and the statement was made that Danny wasn't playing well, and that's why they booted him. I think that's a load of hooey- he's the best ever, and is largely responsible for their success. Having been in a lot of bands, I expect they were all just tired of each other. I respect Bobby Lamm, but without Danny, Terry and Peter, that rhythm section was gone, and so was the magic, for me. I was in awe of those guys. I was also taken with his statement that, in the beginning, it was all about the music. I resonate with that, because as a young musician, I just wanted to be GOOD, and I didn't think much about money- I don't think most young people do.

    • @tomwise1003
      @tomwise1003 Před 4 lety +7

      I agree that there’s no validity in Danny not playing well. I viewed as an act of betrayal that they fired him. The new Chicago or should I say the current Chicago is nothing but a tribute band. In fact Leonid and friends do Chicago better than Chicago.

    • @tommeredith7079
      @tommeredith7079 Před 3 lety +1

      I want to commend you for effectively conveying your observations about the group Chicago. A very well thought out and articulate statement you made.
      Best wishes

    • @bobdimarzio3972
      @bobdimarzio3972 Před 3 lety +1

      100% correct

    • @vicjoyce15
      @vicjoyce15 Před 3 lety +1

      Danny has publicly admitted that his playing wasn't good as he got more involved with leading the band.

    • @DustinBlythe
      @DustinBlythe Před 3 lety +1

      Once Chicago released the Big Band album that signaled to me that they had waved the white flag and we're content to graze as a greatest hits band.

  • @miguelmendoza2903
    @miguelmendoza2903 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Danny is no doubt, one of the best drummers in contemporáry music, his technique, speed and fills are very high in rock music!!!

  • @RagdollOC
    @RagdollOC Před 3 lety +20

    It's hard to under estimate how influential Chicago was. I thought Danny Seraphine set the bar high for drummers as well. I never understood why he was replaced. He was replaced by a boring click track drummer. I can't think of anything musically remarkable Chicago did after he left.

  • @davidnissim589
    @davidnissim589 Před 3 lety +14

    Chicago died with Terry. Their sound changed so drastically, and Danny couldn't use his full potential in it.

  • @samrenteria1830
    @samrenteria1830 Před rokem +2

    I was and am a really big fan from their first album on. Never really knew a lot about the band other than names and Terry Kaths passing. I played everything that Lee played on trumpet on the early albums. I was was like Danny in the sense that id of been in trouble had it not been for the love of music. The neighborhood kids would all come hang out by the window when i practiced only because they couldnt get into the venues that we played. Long long story but just want to mention that i truly loved Chicago and still remember exactly where i was when i heard about Terry. I cried like a baby just knowing it would affect my life because of what could have been. 😢

  • @fbcpraise
    @fbcpraise Před 3 lety +15

    I really enjoy hearing Danny talk about all this, he seems like a sincere guy. I hope the years will be good to him.

  • @bradlyscotunes9156
    @bradlyscotunes9156 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Danny, it was June, 1968, I was there! Santana opened, Chicago Transit Authority was middle bill, & Big Brother & The Holding Co. headlined! Santana's album was a year away, & I thought Chicago's was too. I was 13, a drummer, & had just arrived from 30 miles north of small-town, Central WA., end of paved road, & had heard none of that music! I can still play it in my head, just as y'all sounded there; & was this new weird, thick, sweet smell (doesn't smell that nice now!) Bands were all great! Thanks so much for inspiring me; I'm still playing several times a week, @ 68!

  • @EnlightenedRogue
    @EnlightenedRogue Před 4 lety +44

    36 minutes? Looks like I’ll be up til 1:30 tonight!! Chicago was never the same after the mid 70’s & I’m not sure if it was Columbia pushing ballads or simply too many drugs. After Seraphine left in ‘90, the band unfortunately became a lounge act.

    • @gregorytoddsmith9744
      @gregorytoddsmith9744 Před 4 lety +1

      Listening at 12:30. 👍

    • @delstanley1349
      @delstanley1349 Před 4 lety +2

      @@gregorytoddsmith9744 & Scott Donig> Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? :>)

    • @gristmill1213
      @gristmill1213 Před 4 lety +2

      I always thought they changed after the guitar player left (i forgot his name). From what i understand the guitar player was responsible for their early sound and success.

    • @gristmill1213
      @gristmill1213 Před 4 lety +3

      @@mikemb123 Wow . . . what a shame. I think they eventually sounded like a lounge act in the '80's. Loved the earlier version of the band.

    • @vickileimback3957
      @vickileimback3957 Před 3 lety +3

      I first saw them in "69. Terry, Peter and Danny were great, but I give Robert Lamm as much credit. His voice and songwriting produced some of my favorite Chicago tunes.

  • @dennisjohndreher7258
    @dennisjohndreher7258 Před 4 lety +15

    Grew up with live at carnegie hall. Holds up today as one of the greatest live albums of our time.

    • @joego7924
      @joego7924 Před 2 lety +1

      Live at Tanglewood was way better! Best album Chicago did!

  • @BenjaminGessel
    @BenjaminGessel Před 10 měsíci +4

    Robert Lamm was the brains of the band. 👍👍

  • @jimkosty6951
    @jimkosty6951 Před měsícem

    Danny...
    I had no interest in Chicago ever again when you were taken away from the band. Your spirit and smile and enthusiam and presence was as integral to Chicago as were the parts Terry and Peter played. You are a nice man and your playing was and remains a huge part of the charm and power of Chicago. Thank you and God bless!

  • @butchmichalak6232
    @butchmichalak6232 Před 3 lety +6

    Danny i don't know if you remember me? We went to grade school together. I went to your house the day after you got your Singerland Drum set, I remember they were Black and Gold. We moved to Northbrook for my 8th grade year. I never knew you were in the band Chicago what a small world. Congrads to you and all the success you obtain. Sorry to say I never made it to one of your concerts but loved the music all these years. Butch

  • @richardgithens1960
    @richardgithens1960 Před 4 lety +11

    Seems like a very cool, down to earth guy. Seems to be very humble or has learned a great sense of humility over time.

  • @debbiezenaida
    @debbiezenaida Před 2 lety +4

    I really loved early Chicago. Later on when they're were doing a lot of ballads and very commercial type pop songs, they lost their soul to me.

  • @scheist4
    @scheist4 Před 4 lety +8

    Danny is a Class Act .!!

  • @albertmcfry6322
    @albertmcfry6322 Před 2 lety +6

    Chicago was in my top 3 of all time bands,fantastic group, they are one of the best ever!

  • @johnwilson2456
    @johnwilson2456 Před 3 lety +6

    Danny, you were certainly the heart of the band. It hasn't been the same without you. Nor will it ever be.

  • @anthonysilva5312
    @anthonysilva5312 Před 4 lety +14

    Holy Jesus , that was heavy.
    Thank you for this thoughtful interview.

  • @stephenlibin9526
    @stephenlibin9526 Před 4 lety +13

    If you love Chicago, this is a must watch! Thank You for this video!

  • @jimbaker4931
    @jimbaker4931 Před 4 lety +17

    Joe you’ve had some great interviews but this one Has to be right up there with the best if not the best. Danny is an unbelievably honest guy who is not afraid to answer and nail the best questions that you had. I could easily sit and listen to another hour or two of you guys asking and answering questions.
    Danny is right, after Terry died the band lost its rock soulful edge. It morphed into a somewhat ballad period and it took a while to go full circle and come back.
    Chicago is and always will be my favorite rock band. I have many many Chicago original vinyl
    albums.

  • @davidlehrfeld1686
    @davidlehrfeld1686 Před 4 lety +15

    Wow, fantastic, thanks so much Joe.
    Danny has always been one of my all-time favorites, and I've of course read his book, but I still learned a few major things here, and gained some invaluable perspective on others. I'm quite impressed by his introspection, perspective and humility, I didn't realize he was such a great guy on top of it all. I was thrilled to hear him rattle off some of his favorite drummers, his taste is exquisite (which is no surprise). Anyone who name drops Max Roach always gets a few bonus points from me!

  • @PlymouthVT
    @PlymouthVT Před rokem +1

    When i was teen/player in the 70's I was a real drum snob. I though Danny actually sucked becasue he was so different than most rock drummers of that time but much much later in life after I grew up to my embarrassment I realized Danny was a spectacular drummer and played lots of really hard & fast tempo's flawlessly and powerfully. Impeccable timing. Really good drummer and a pleasure to listen to.

  •  Před 4 lety +15

    Just fantastic how Danny opens up! Joe, another great interview. You allow the guest to follow his responses and just know how to lead or bring Danny back to a pivotal answer to Chicago's story!

  • @donaldmoore4412
    @donaldmoore4412 Před 3 lety +6

    What an incredible humble man and one hell of a drummer. When Danny left, that was the end of the golden days.

  • @timothycooney986
    @timothycooney986 Před 2 měsíci

    Percussion was/is the heart of Chicago. Love Danny's work; incredible.

  • @damohanson5393
    @damohanson5393 Před 3 lety +9

    My seventies decade started with Chicago being an integral part of a personal record play list. I was in college and would go listen to CTA and Chicago 2 on the head phone stereo system . Many an afternoon rocking out. Very pleasant memories.Every one a master musician.

  • @John-pc3cx
    @John-pc3cx Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks for letting Danny talk. Some interviewers are more enamored with their questions than what the subject has to say.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 9 měsíci

      John, my dad Joe would have really appreciated your kind comment & support for the channel.
      Hope you can visit the museum sometime.
      Best,
      Britt

  • @patrickostrom2762
    @patrickostrom2762 Před 4 lety +8

    Danny really opens up his life as musician/drummer with Chicago ! Soul with emotions of details within the band ! The truth prevails bittersweet on this interview ! A few years ago I got see Danny play with his CTA = California Transit Authority band and he had a few friends from chgo sit in him! Wow ! It was great show not rehash tribute Glory days!

  • @ronaldmorris3197
    @ronaldmorris3197 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I like when Danny said "he was the designated driver of the band."

  • @pjones8404
    @pjones8404 Před 2 lety +3

    I am listening to the Carnegie Hall complete shows now. It's FABULOUS!!!!!!!!! It's a must have for deep Chicago fans!!!

  • @davidhardie6102
    @davidhardie6102 Před 3 lety +9

    It really hurt when Danny and Chicago split. I read Danny's book Street Player and he goes into a lot of incidents that led up to the split. Some were pretty dramatic. Chicago was founded on the concept of one for all and all for one. Their agreement among each other was a handshake. Danny felt that promise was betrayed even with some of the difficult situations that came up. Stuff happens when you work around each other and travel so close to each other. I was so glad Danny was there for the R&R HOF induction. I was hoping Peter would come but again egos collided. Again it depends on who you listen to.I became a fan at 12 years old when I first heard CTA. I still go and see them every time they are near me. You can call them a tribute band or whatever you want, they still put on a helluva show and never cheat their audience and I have enjoyed the hell out of them and always will.

  • @fischman26-China
    @fischman26-China Před 3 měsíci

    I worked with a drummer who was in a band with horns back in the 90s and they did a lot of Chicago songs. He said he could never get Danny's drum parts right. Lots of sophistication in his playing.

  • @donnascott4833
    @donnascott4833 Před 2 měsíci

    You know, listening to this you really get a flood of so many emotions as he’s speaking of practically his whole lifetime in a rock and roll band and letting us in on it. The tragedy of Terry Kath is heartbreaking but the joy of their spirit in the carrying on is immense. I miss any and all of the bands that formed my life growing up as I am nearly as old now as they are, and I hope they truly know that we, out here, deep in our heart of hearts are so thankful to them all to have taken the leap of faith so young and yes nearly sacrificing their lives in the giving over that most times they had to do, never denying as it ran so rich in their in their blood the deep want passionate desire add pure joy of playing and making rock and roll music. We, the fans, were very blessed to have it then and now. I thank God for the records that are left to listen to when suddenly Im 16 again.
    It is gone and never will be back. Thank you Chicago and every rock and roller alive and in Heaven for making it a glorious youth.
    All my love always.
    💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻🎉🎤🎼🎹

  • @davidrice3337
    @davidrice3337 Před rokem

    Terry Kath was the only reason I ever listen to Chicago - now I'm adding Danny to the list

  • @ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz
    @ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz Před 4 lety +7

    What I love the most about this channel is that the questions often involve the subject of composing methods, gear, inspiration, musicianship, the business aspect etc. So often interviewers get lost into the “fame thing” asking always the same stuff. As an amateur musician this is golden information. The interviews do justice to the name of the channel, Musicians (and not Celebrities) Hall of Fame.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 4 lety +3

      Thanks Rene... that’s exactly what we wanted to accomplish... best, Joe

    • @lilmelvin11
      @lilmelvin11 Před 4 lety +3

      Well said! Too many interviewers have the attention span of a goldfish. Knowing when to let the subject talk, and knowing how to follow up.

    • @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum
      @MusiciansHallofFameMuseum  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks Terry..... Joe