I built my 8.6 for under $700, I used PAS upper and lower, LaRue MBT trigger, Faxon 12" 8.6 barrel, and silencerco muzzle break and the Bering Optics Super Hogster Thermal scope!
Aero precision Is based off of the DPMS high profile spec, that is why your handguard doesn't match the height of the receiver. UTG, aero precision, and DPMS Handguards will fit properly so long as they are listed as high profile. And i would seriously recommend getting the aero precision lower receiver.
I know the feeling on build issues. I ordered my barrel and BCG for a 450 Bushmaster build on 1/20/2023 and it is now 7/22/2023 and still no updated. Messaged them in May and they stated it would ship by the end of the month... As far as my 8.6 build, I had two 308s. Converted the one with the least amount of accessories so I only needed the 8.6 barrel. Definitely about to check your channel for the update.
Hand guard is either Armalite or dpms low profile and upper is high profile. Just get the Aero S one... it'll be perfect. And it is stupid light too.: I run 15" foremds in most of my 16" barrels. It's just fine.
If you go aero you should just get all aero receivers and hand guard that way everything will mate up nicely plus you get that tensioning screw to take out any play between upper and lower
probably should have, i made rash decisions, thinking i could get it shooting last week. now were a week away and I could have just ordered what I wanted!
@@gom3r69 Yeah that probably would’ve been the smart call I just tried to get fancy and thought I could do something different but it came back to bite me. Make sure you’re subscribed because I have the new handguard installed they’ll be a video this week
Cool parts to play with. 😁 10:06 Bondo and paint. 😅 fill that void! Check the gas block for adjustment (adjustability), and base the hand guard length accordingly.
Faxon just can’t make a bad barrel from my experience. I’ve gotten many from them from a 223 pencil barrel to 6.5 Grendel to 458 Socom and every one has shot amazingly well. They’ve become my go to company when I first build anything.
I'm the guy that ends up with that 1 extra screw or washer with no idea if I forgot something or if they were nice and included a spare! So I tend to buy complete factory guns, some of us just not good tinkerers.
I like the good the bad the ugly when making a gun video, so I can see the most common pitfalls. You are just like me when making a gun or doing Home Depot home projects. That handguard might be a Midway based on the M I saw.
Check out Live Free Armory for receiver builder set. I built a 308 with the tungsten cerakote builder set with the handguard and I love it. Delta team tactical sells them for $279
Polymer is probably not a good choice for an AR10 build. Especially for the 8.6 BLK. You might want to rethink that. Dont get me wrong, I am no expert but I wouldn't use polymer for an AR15 build. It may be fine but why chance it?
There are 2 different 308 pattern heights. You can get handguards from Aero, Midwest Industries, and many others that line up. You just have to order the correct height.
It's been a while so you may have figured this out by know. You have an Aero high profile DPMS LR308 upper, a Guntec low profile DPMS LR308 slim handguard, and a barrel nut for a clamp on handguard. You'll want a low profile upper or a high profile handguard.
"Do I need to spend 100 bucks to get a headspace gauge?" Is risking your life worth that $100 in your pocket? Proper headspacing is the difference between the gun going bang and the gun going boom. I wouldn't even trust the tolerance stacking on the parts if they were all from the same manufacturer, much less from several different manufacturers. You might get lucky and everything fits and works the first time, but you may have too much or not enough room to accommodate the manufacturing tolerance range for case lengths which could cause a catastrophic failure.
👍 Support your local gunsmith! Build the rifle yourself, when you're confident it's done, have the gunsmith check the headspace. You win 2 ways if you do that, a new gunsmith friend & a safe to test rifle. You'll be happy to have a local gunsmith when you need him. Mike.
I doubt they will have go no go gauges???, I should probably just order a set. I would like to eventually have a 12" version of this caliber for suppression.
Hey bro is the 8.6 an AR15 or an AR10? Since its a big bore ,that dosnt really mean much these days as i have 458Socom and 50Beo and so on so im not sure if this would be an AR15 or 10? Help? lol
You can't really mix and match with AR10's they're not mil spec, also definitely not 5/8" it's a M18 x 1.5 pitch with a taper ring. Good luck finding a muzzle break, took me a month.
Hey thanks for watching. Check out some of the later videos. We’ve got this gun sorted and shooting great. I was able to find a mobile device a couple of months ago and I also found a chemo break to work with my suppressor. The AR 10 platform has been a learning experience
Our boy Trump became neurotic over the years and unfit for anymore politics. He should just stop his crazy, egotistical talk and retire. His businesses need his attention. R.I.P., Donald.
@@webviking don't fall for the media. Moment you start believe the CNN your doomed lol. Look at what his policies were, and wealth he brought to the country, his sex life, tweets, and taste in food has nothing to do with anything. He had the country running like clock work, low gas prices, AMAZING foreign policies, serious beyond what anyone has done is decades. If you look at it logically and leave your emotions at the door, as much as you hate him, he's probably the best president you'll ever have in your life time. Yes Biden looks more "nice" the media LOVES him, but the county is shit now.... and he's to blame
@@webviking him being "neurotic " is extremely good, we need a monster to go fight and challenge, other monster like putin, north Korean leader, middle east. Let me put it this way, if you had a dog fight, would you throw a cute toy Poodle 🐩 to fight a pit bull, or would you want an equal monster of a pit bull to fight the other out bull. Trump is a monster, yes, absolutely, but he's an American monster, breed to fight other titans of this earth. You would not understand, if you haven't understood by now
I feel like the 8.6 blackout is a more marketed version of 338 federal. 338 bullet in 308 case, dies off. Put it in a 6.5 creedmor case and market the crap out of it, then it becomes the magical new thing.
The .338 Federal has a velocity of 2600 - 2800 fps from a 24 in barrel. The 8.6 moves ALOT slower and offers subsonic ammo. 1000 fps from a 16 in barrel. Totally different applications.
@W J Bailey I get that. Personally, I feel like the 300blk works just fine. Hunting with Subsonic ammo isn’t really worth it, and 300blk/ subsonic 308 already exist. I just think it is a money making tactic and will be on forgotten weapons in a few years.
@@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib New cartridges have to be adopted in order to last. Many don't stand the test of time if they don't offer a significant benefit to offset the costs of weapon adaptability, the new cartridges' cost, availability (of both), and design improvements and changes. Only time will tell if this AR-10 version of the .300 BLK survives the challenges or becomes a candidate for Forgotten Weapons. You may be correct on that one!
Since you will be shooting suppressed, I would suggest getting a handguard that will be a little longer than your barrel and also have an inside diameter to allow the suppressor inside for attachment. It is a super cool look that way. IMHO
@@barrymyers7405 totally agree, I didnt get the exact components I wanted for this build, so we are in a "for now" stage. I will upgrade and I also plan to have a 12" barrel in the future!
Sometimes it's entertaining to watch people fail. Especially the amount of times you did. You put the video out there for the world to see and it was educational. But did you think every comment was gonna be positive? Get some thicker skin.
I am not harmed by your comments, I have been posting the good and the bad since 2016. Its a process, I am just a guy. I have no intention of only posting the wins, I post the fails too. You are free to comment as you please. I am here for it.
I am currently building an 8.6. Your probably going to have to get a Aero lower. Also, wrong barrel nut. the one you should have will be two pieces (one rotates and is captured so you can line up the handguard and 6 screws to attach guard.
Weekend Operator...😂 Thank you for putting out 14 1/2 minutes what not to do. You should leave gunsmithing up to professionals out of respect for the people beside you at the range. Good luck to you bro.
@@mpeterscrappieman I am not for sure why you are here. If you watch all 14 min then you must have been learning something??? But if you are pro level AR10 builder, I probably don’t have much to offer you. I clicked on your channel to see your builds but nothing is posted.
Not sure what you are looking for but I am a vlog channel. This was one of 10-12 videos documenting my 8.6 build. I don’t only show home runs. I show the bad parts too. Title of the video and the thumbnail are accurate.
"Do you see the insane level of spinnage?"
It just occurred to me that Popeye was a Navy Seal, and we've been confusing spinach with spinnage.
haha, spinnage vs spinach, haha
I built my 8.6 for under $700, I used PAS upper and lower, LaRue MBT trigger, Faxon 12" 8.6 barrel, and silencerco muzzle break and the Bering Optics Super Hogster Thermal scope!
Aero precision Is based off of the DPMS high profile spec, that is why your handguard doesn't match the height of the receiver. UTG, aero precision, and DPMS Handguards will fit properly so long as they are listed as high profile. And i would seriously recommend getting the aero precision lower receiver.
Yes, I figured that out but not before it was too late. All good, just reasons to build more. I like aero, but just too basic for me rn.
8.6 is the future! Appreciate your work!
I know the feeling on build issues. I ordered my barrel and BCG for a 450 Bushmaster build on 1/20/2023 and it is now 7/22/2023 and still no updated. Messaged them in May and they stated it would ship by the end of the month... As far as my 8.6 build, I had two 308s. Converted the one with the least amount of accessories so I only needed the 8.6 barrel. Definitely about to check your channel for the update.
Very nice looking parts, make sure you check the headspace. Especially on such a big cartridge. Want a boom not a kaboom. Echo
So I should def order the go no go gauges?
@@EagleRun23 i think as long as the lockup is solid and not a bunch of slop. If you're buying quality parts i don't believe you will have a problem.
@@EagleRun23 yes it's a safety issue. Plus you said it yourself there's no milspec for the large platform rifle AKA AR-10, lr-308, sr25. Echo
Hand guard is either Armalite or dpms low profile and upper is high profile. Just get the Aero S one... it'll be perfect. And it is stupid light too.:
I run 15" foremds in most of my 16" barrels. It's just fine.
18mm x1.5 thread.
yes!
If you go aero you should just get all aero receivers and hand guard that way everything will mate up nicely plus you get that tensioning screw to take out any play between upper and lower
probably should have, i made rash decisions, thinking i could get it shooting last week. now were a week away and I could have just ordered what I wanted!
I went aero everything and the 12” handguard for my 12” barrel is gonna have to get chopped I really wish they’d make an 11” handguard
@@gom3r69 Yeah that probably would’ve been the smart call I just tried to get fancy and thought I could do something different but it came back to bite me. Make sure you’re subscribed because I have the new handguard installed they’ll be a video this week
Yup, lr308 platforms are not milspec like the ar15 is. So you pretty much gotta stay all one company with the bigger ars so that everything runs well
Cool parts to play with. 😁
10:06 Bondo and paint. 😅 fill that void!
Check the gas block for adjustment (adjustability), and base the hand guard length accordingly.
i got 86 problems, but a blackout ain't one! 👍
Faxon just can’t make a bad barrel from my experience. I’ve gotten many from them from a 223 pencil barrel to 6.5 Grendel to 458 Socom and every one has shot amazingly well. They’ve become my go to company when I first build anything.
thats awesome, i am a fan! and one of their 18 Ambassadors! alnk.to/7qixhuW
I'm the guy that ends up with that 1 extra screw or washer with no idea if I forgot something or if they were nice and included a spare! So I tend to buy complete factory guns, some of us just not good tinkerers.
That’s definitely a Guntec handguard
Yes sir! Thanks for that. We have our faxon one installed already and she looks way better!!
I like the good the bad the ugly when making a gun video, so I can see the most common pitfalls. You are just like me when making a gun or doing Home Depot home projects. That handguard might be a Midway based on the M I saw.
My people! 😂
Check out Live Free Armory for receiver builder set. I built a 308 with the tungsten cerakote builder set with the handguard and I love it. Delta team tactical sells them for $279
Yes sir. That’s the one I currently run on the 6.5 Creedmoor. It’s also the lower you see here. I am a fan.
Polymer is probably not a good choice for an AR10 build. Especially for the 8.6 BLK. You might want to rethink that. Dont get me wrong, I am no expert but I wouldn't use polymer for an AR15 build. It may be fine but why chance it?
Its just for fun, if we have problems, we have a billet one waiting in the wings.
There are 2 different 308 pattern heights. You can get handguards from Aero, Midwest Industries, and many others that line up. You just have to order the correct height.
Yes sir. I messed around some getting this done. But she is good to go now. Check some of the newer videos.
It's been a while so you may have figured this out by know. You have an Aero high profile DPMS LR308 upper, a Guntec low profile DPMS LR308 slim handguard, and a barrel nut for a clamp on handguard. You'll want a low profile upper or a high profile handguard.
yes sir, ar10 kicked my butt, but we are good now, check out some of my later videos.
Build that 8.6 !!!
TRYING, its a struggle
Is 8.6 blk worth it or should I I just go with a 308 build?
How about mounting the 8.6 barrel on the new ruger SFAR?? Cheers
You should look down the barrel of a 458 socom lol
"Do I need to spend 100 bucks to get a headspace gauge?" Is risking your life worth that $100 in your pocket? Proper headspacing is the difference between the gun going bang and the gun going boom. I wouldn't even trust the tolerance stacking on the parts if they were all from the same manufacturer, much less from several different manufacturers. You might get lucky and everything fits and works the first time, but you may have too much or not enough room to accommodate the manufacturing tolerance range for case lengths which could cause a catastrophic failure.
I was able to borrow a head space set. mine is good to go. shoots! definitely agree with you post here though!
I love me some spinach
👍 Support your local gunsmith! Build the rifle yourself, when you're confident it's done, have the gunsmith check the headspace. You win 2 ways if you do that, a new gunsmith friend & a safe to test rifle. You'll be happy to have a local gunsmith when you need him. Mike.
I doubt they will have go no go gauges???, I should probably just order a set. I would like to eventually have a 12" version of this caliber for suppression.
Woow I just received my barrel on Friday I didn't have a card in my barrel for ammo smdh.
Awesome. Tell me about your build!
BCG is the same as the creedmore?
Hey bro is the 8.6 an AR15 or an AR10? Since its a big bore ,that dosnt really mean much these days as i have 458Socom and 50Beo and so on so im not sure if this would be an AR15 or 10? Help? lol
Do you have to use the Faxon BCG with the 8.6 blk barrels? Or will any .308 BCG work?
To my understanding, any .308 BCG will work
@@DevilDawg12 yup. I confirmed that with Faxon.
Let's get the part on part build on its way, this is an assume round
She runs she shoots. It’s glorious. Check latest vids. :)
Just don’t see the point of it when you can 338 spectre
Fine if you want bolt gun. But this round feeds in an auto gun.
You can't really mix and match with AR10's they're not mil spec, also definitely not 5/8" it's a M18 x 1.5 pitch with a taper ring. Good luck finding a muzzle break, took me a month.
Hey thanks for watching. Check out some of the later videos. We’ve got this gun sorted and shooting great. I was able to find a mobile device a couple of months ago and I also found a chemo break to work with my suppressor.
The AR 10 platform has been a learning experience
I need more content ASAP
my boy trump just got raided by FBI we need to arm ourselves
Posting Daily here for a few weeks until I am back at work!
Our boy Trump became neurotic over the years and unfit for anymore politics. He should just stop his crazy, egotistical talk and retire. His businesses need his attention. R.I.P., Donald.
@@webviking don't fall for the media.
Moment you start believe the CNN your doomed lol.
Look at what his policies were, and wealth he brought to the country, his sex life, tweets, and taste in food has nothing to do with anything.
He had the country running like clock work, low gas prices, AMAZING foreign policies, serious beyond what anyone has done is decades. If you look at it logically and leave your emotions at the door, as much as you hate him, he's probably the best president you'll ever have in your life time.
Yes Biden looks more "nice" the media LOVES him, but the county is shit now.... and he's to blame
@@webviking him being "neurotic " is extremely good, we need a monster to go fight and challenge, other monster like putin, north Korean leader, middle east.
Let me put it this way, if you had a dog fight, would you throw a cute toy Poodle 🐩 to fight a pit bull, or would you want an equal monster of a pit bull to fight the other out bull.
Trump is a monster, yes, absolutely, but he's an American monster, breed to fight other titans of this earth.
You would not understand, if you haven't understood by now
🤔
Check out the updates we did in one of the latest videos.
Ehh, hard pass on the polymer lower. With the AR 10 is not as straightforward to build as the AR 15. Good luck.
I feel like the 8.6 blackout is a more marketed version of 338 federal. 338 bullet in 308 case, dies off. Put it in a 6.5 creedmor case and market the crap out of it, then it becomes the magical new thing.
The .338 Federal has a velocity of 2600 - 2800 fps from a 24 in barrel. The 8.6 moves ALOT slower and offers subsonic ammo. 1000 fps from a 16 in barrel.
Totally different applications.
@W J Bailey I get that. Personally, I feel like the 300blk works just fine. Hunting with Subsonic ammo isn’t really worth it, and 300blk/ subsonic 308 already exist. I just think it is a money making tactic and will be on forgotten weapons in a few years.
@@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib New cartridges have to be adopted in order to last. Many don't stand the test of time if they don't offer a significant benefit to offset the costs of weapon adaptability, the new cartridges' cost, availability (of both), and design improvements and changes. Only time will tell if this AR-10 version of the .300 BLK survives the challenges or becomes a candidate for Forgotten Weapons. You may be correct on that one!
Keep building because yes, we want to make fun of you. lol.
HAHA gee thanks Andy!
Since you will be shooting suppressed, I would suggest getting a handguard that will be a little longer than your barrel and also have an inside diameter to allow the suppressor inside for attachment. It is a super cool look that way. IMHO
@@barrymyers7405 totally agree, I didnt get the exact components I wanted for this build, so we are in a "for now" stage. I will upgrade and I also plan to have a 12" barrel in the future!
Sometimes it's entertaining to watch people fail. Especially the amount of times you did. You put the video out there for the world to see and it was educational. But did you think every comment was gonna be positive? Get some thicker skin.
I am not harmed by your comments, I have been posting the good and the bad since 2016. Its a process, I am just a guy. I have no intention of only posting the wins, I post the fails too. You are free to comment as you please. I am here for it.
@EagleRun23 Thank you for your content. Both good and bad.
If you don't like that lower, Hoffman Tactical has a 3D printed LR-308 lower now if you're into that sort of thing
Keeping an eye on that. I actually ordered black filament too :) that’s likely on the agenda.
I am currently building an 8.6. Your probably going to have to get a Aero lower. Also, wrong barrel nut. the one you should have will be two pieces (one rotates and is captured so you can line up the handguard and 6 screws to attach guard.
I am going with faxon hand guard. Should be here this week with the Aero upper.
Faxon will have a new barrel nut I assume.
Weekend Operator...😂 Thank you for putting out 14 1/2 minutes what not to do. You should leave gunsmithing up to professionals out of respect for the people beside you at the range. Good luck to you bro.
I don’t need your luck and I’ll keep building. We’re getting pretty good at it.
@EagleRun23 I would hope you're not still making the same mistakes. I can't imagine you getting much worse at building Ar's.
@@mpeterscrappieman I am not for sure why you are here. If you watch all 14 min then you must have been learning something???
But if you are pro level AR10 builder, I probably don’t have much to offer you. I clicked on your channel to see your builds but nothing is posted.
There was literally no helpful info on this video at all. Waste of time, all he did was complain about his components and parts.
Not sure what you are looking for but I am a vlog channel. This was one of 10-12 videos documenting my 8.6 build. I don’t only show home runs. I show the bad parts too. Title of the video and the thumbnail are accurate.
Like millions of other videos where people like to hear themselves talk, and talk way too much.