Goin' Fretless and Gettin' Weird

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  • @scottstanley4378
    @scottstanley4378 Před 8 měsíci +70

    You're already the Bob Ross of guitar repair my guy. Thank you for entertaining me and teaching me arcane knowledge that I'm unlikely to ever use.

    • @ncc74656m
      @ncc74656m Před 8 měsíci +7

      You should check out Wristwatch Revival if you just like soothing videos of people repairing things and don't have to stick to a particular type of repair. One of my favorite channels for the same reason.

    • @JiveDadson
      @JiveDadson Před 8 měsíci +2

      I respectfully disagree. Ross's thing was to teach people how to have fun ruining canvases and smearing paint. He would not sell his paintings. He knew they were crap. The point was simply to relax and enjoy.

    • @scottstanley4378
      @scottstanley4378 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ncc74656m I've seen that channel and I like it! I'm much more interested in guitars (mostly basses). I'd never be brave enough to attempt any of the things this guy does though, and I'm so thankful that I have my own awesome guitar repair man locally.

    • @FreeSpeechWarrior
      @FreeSpeechWarrior Před měsícem

      ​@@ncc74656mGood call I love his videos.

    • @FreeSpeechWarrior
      @FreeSpeechWarrior Před měsícem

      ​@@JiveDadson"ruining canvases and smearing paint." 😂 That's a bit harsh don't you think? 😂

  • @myopicautisticmetal9035
    @myopicautisticmetal9035 Před 8 měsíci +10

    I wager that was played with a slide, I instantly noticed that shim stack under the nut. My dad and I pulled the frets out of a Peavy predator back in the 90's, it was a friends guitar so I couldn't keep it.

  • @nickster5286
    @nickster5286 Před 8 měsíci +5

    "Sometimes we do things just for the experience."
    Best Ted quote ever!

  • @tiacho2893
    @tiacho2893 Před 8 měsíci +79

    As a Korean Canadian, I can say that those QC marks have Chinese characters. So final assembly and the body might be Korean (I know a bunch of the 1990's Hamers were made in Korea and I had an Korean made acoustic from that era). But the neck came from China (kinda doubtful as IIRC Chinese build quality was not great in the 90s) or more likely Taiwan.
    ETA: As a fellow Hamiltonian, Mohawk shuttering their music program "is a humiliating kick in the crotch" for our fair city.

    • @davedavidson9996
      @davedavidson9996 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I'm curious did Korean guitar companies ever get part from Japan back in the 80s and assemble them?

    • @tiacho2893
      @tiacho2893 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@davedavidson9996 I don't think so since Japan was the more expensive labour market in the 80s and 90s. If anything, it would have been the opposite. Yeah the days before CNC reduced body and neck milling times to minutes.
      I'm pretty sure Fender used to order parts from LaSiDo (Godin and Seagull's parent co.) and do assembly in CA when the Canadian dollar and Canadian wood prices made it feasible and profitable. IIRC, right now Asian guitar factories do everything in house except hardware and electronics. But I describe a lot of that stuff (Chibson and Aliexpress) as "guitar shaped objects".

    • @thosewhowish2b693
      @thosewhowish2b693 Před 8 měsíci +5

      +1 for the Police quote.

    • @benghuainaocanfen
      @benghuainaocanfen Před 8 měsíci

      says 木地 合格 kinda just means it's up to the standards.

    • @benghuainaocanfen
      @benghuainaocanfen Před 8 měsíci +1

      the 木地 part didn't make sense to me as it's not a Chinese word, 木 meaning wood, 地 meaning floor or earth, but apparently (after some googling) it's a Japanese word meaning wood or bare wood.

  • @monday6524
    @monday6524 Před 7 měsíci +6

    The sound you get out of it is very cool. I think the process of filling in the frets was really informative! Specifically, how you filled them but also the importance of having the visible lines to enable playing in tune.

  • @msmknz
    @msmknz Před 8 měsíci +20

    My first ever guitar was a similar Yamaha electric from a beginner kit sold at Costco! Not only do I still have it but I've refinished, refitted, and refurbished the living heck out of it and I wouldn't be watching this channel without the interests I developed during that process. Neat!

  • @joelonsdale
    @joelonsdale Před 8 měsíci +6

    Always love a new Twoodfrd video!

  • @ChrisHopkinsBass
    @ChrisHopkinsBass Před 8 měsíci +17

    As I remember it, the big selling point of these guitars was that it was a solid wood body for around £150. Most sub £200 guitars at the time had plywood bodies.

    • @tiacho2893
      @tiacho2893 Před 8 měsíci +2

      In Canada, that was the selling point of the budget guitars from Godin and Peavey. You got a well built domestically produced guitar made from solid woods. There were obvious cost cutting measures but it took a long time to "out grow" those instruments.

    • @maxmustardman298
      @maxmustardman298 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yeah the ad showing the comparison between a yamaha and squier plywood body 😂

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 Před 7 měsíci

      That's such a weird selling point. I'd rather have better pickups or hardware than "good wood"

    • @ChrisHopkinsBass
      @ChrisHopkinsBass Před 7 měsíci

      @@ileutur6863 this is from "back in the day" where really poor guitars with plywood bodies were marketed at beginners

    • @beenaplumber8379
      @beenaplumber8379 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ileutur6863 I think you need to play a few more guitars to get a sense of the difference. Plywood kills the sustain and leaves the tone flat and devoid of life. If you can't tell the difference, then it doesn't matter for you, but the difference is there, and there's no pickup that can bring plywood to life, though EMG made pickups to emulate some of that character.

  • @donald-parker
    @donald-parker Před 8 měsíci +8

    Seeing that nut makes me think a previous owner probably dedicated this guitar to slide. Which, interestingly enough, offers some similar playing opportunities to playing fretless. As long as you are not using "playing behind the slide" techniques, a high nut is great. The Joyo is cool and cheap but a Fernandes sustainer system would free up a lot more musical options. I pulled the frets on a bass I had once that had a rosewood fretboard. Instead of cutting veneer strips to fill the slots left behind after removing frets I found they naturally filled with rosewood dust while sanding, which seems to be noticeably lighter color than the board itself - almost orange. So I just put a little super glue on top and left it at that. Far less noticeable than the light wood veneer, but an effect I liked. Your approach does make it much easier to repair tear out damage I suppose.

  • @scottmoisant6331
    @scottmoisant6331 Před 8 měsíci +10

    THE BEST CONTENT YET. Seriously, been watching your channel for awhile, clearly doing your own projects gives you juice. More please.

  • @zeroman614
    @zeroman614 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Ron Thal (Bumblefoot) is amazing on his fretless Vigier. Also, I had one of these Pacificas, the best $99US guitar ever.

  • @customfreak81
    @customfreak81 Před 8 měsíci +20

    Ive worked on a few of these Yamaha Pacifica's and they really do punch above their price point, the only issue ive really come across with them is the plastic jack plate breaking,very easy to swap out for a metal one though. Great work on this one!

    • @mightyluv
      @mightyluv Před 8 měsíci

      I played one of these (maple neck) alongside a Mexican Strat back in ‘96; I bought the Pacifica. It’s been modded and painted over and over again since then. I love it, it’s my Frankenstein monster.

    • @BIZARBIES
      @BIZARBIES Před 7 měsíci +1

      I think lots of Yamaha guitars punch above their price points.
      I have an early 80s Yamaha acoustic guitar that I wouldn't trade for anything.

  • @PeppeFrana
    @PeppeFrana Před 8 měsíci +10

    Hi Ted! Big fan of your contents here, I'm an Italian musician, former guitar player but I've spent many years learning the oud and turkish music in particular, i also own some fretless guitars made there. Was great to see you going fretless and mentioning that specific style of playing, just wanted to share my 2 cents about fretless conversion: for turkish style playing both with plectrum and ebow is of great importance to achieve an extremely low string action. Basically the strings on turkish fretless guitar have close to zero action at the nut and very low and regular action throughout the neck. A well set-up Turkish oud usually has an action not above 2.5mm at the neck joint which corresponds to the 7th fret, guitars are no different. You may encounter some string buzzing here and there but that's generally accepted as part of the sound, the right amount of string buzz actually compensate a bit for the natural lack of sustain that fretless instruments may have. Great job!

  • @petarkanev8156
    @petarkanev8156 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Great video as always. I missed the classic polishing-polishing bit though :)

  • @DerangedTechnologist
    @DerangedTechnologist Před 7 měsíci

    As always, a total treat. Thanks!

  • @norbertoquintanar2608
    @norbertoquintanar2608 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thanks for taking us on your journey! That was very interesting.

  • @MikeGervasi
    @MikeGervasi Před 8 měsíci +5

    Guthrie Govan plays fretless guitar at times. Truly amazing.

    • @peterdefrankrijker
      @peterdefrankrijker Před 5 měsíci

      He’a an extraordinarily talented player, so he can make it work. For us mere mortals, a fretless guitar is… _less than ideal._

  • @radducku
    @radducku Před 8 měsíci +1

    Bloody hell!...Learning something new every video and now I want one of those fretless guitar shaped objects too! un freakin believably amazing contraption. Thank you Sir !

  • @radiomonterossopalermo8403
    @radiomonterossopalermo8403 Před 8 měsíci +2

    No frets, no polishing! 😂

  • @PJBonoVox
    @PJBonoVox Před 7 měsíci

    This was a lot of fun. A light-hearted video with a definite change of pace. Good stuff.

  • @briancassidy6678
    @briancassidy6678 Před 8 měsíci

    One can see the potential in the possibilities of soundscaping with that set up. Very cool and very nice work, as always. Thanks.

  • @mtbikesam68
    @mtbikesam68 Před 8 měsíci

    YES!!! That sound with the flanger was amazing! I would get LOST goofing around with that setup. Your pinstripe work was great too.

  • @mactech1
    @mactech1 Před 8 měsíci

    It's nice to see you just having fun, and not stressing about hidden problems. Thanks very much!

  • @ALEX-Extreme
    @ALEX-Extreme Před 7 měsíci +1

    This was one of your best videos, so cool seeing you build something purely for your enjoyment, I’d like to see it more often and just watch you experiment with guitars, now I gotta do a fretless guitar and pinstripe one, both looked like fun.

  • @upanbyudesign5323
    @upanbyudesign5323 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I will now go and listen to Station to Station

  • @rgreiling
    @rgreiling Před 7 měsíci

    I particularly enjoyed this one. It's fun to see you entertaining your whimsical side!

  • @thegeekdude67
    @thegeekdude67 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You are for sure the Bob Ross of ‘luthiering’. Great work on this one! 🎸😎👊

  • @Nikolas716
    @Nikolas716 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Great stuff, as always 👏 👍

  • @0whitestone
    @0whitestone Před 7 měsíci

    Another incredible video as always. I really appreciate you practicing something you're not good at on camera for us to witness. I've often considered making a fretless guitar many times, this will serve as a great tutorial!

  • @grene1955
    @grene1955 Před 8 měsíci

    This is one of your most interesting vids... and most entertaining!

  • @natjes6017
    @natjes6017 Před 5 měsíci

    Magical, fantastic work, looks awesome, especially the "frets" 🤩

  • @tompass82
    @tompass82 Před 8 měsíci +1

    That client who missed out on this project has got to be regretting it. If Woodford WANTS to do work on your guitar, you have him do that work. I like the detailed explanation on the fret pulling process. You’ve done it before, but I never get sick of watching it while you spoon feed us the explanation of the process. And for this job, the removal of the frets is especially important. I have played fretless electric bass for the past 15 years or so. We don’t see fretless guitars often, and after this, I hope to see more.

  • @adammono1839
    @adammono1839 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Go ted! Nice to see some personal projects on the go, great fun and absolutely how I'd spend a spare day too

  • @DefconMaster
    @DefconMaster Před 7 měsíci

    What a cool project! Glad to see you actually making something for yourself for once, you certainly deserve it!

  • @desolatemetro
    @desolatemetro Před 7 měsíci

    Awesome! Great result. Happy to see you work on something for yourself too!

  • @chrishansen-crowley3287
    @chrishansen-crowley3287 Před 8 měsíci

    Great episode. I had the amazing Rick Kelly of Carmine Street Guitars do this to my bass. It came out way better than I ever anticipated. The fret lines made it much easier to transition to a fretless.

  • @markbernier8434
    @markbernier8434 Před 8 měsíci

    Did not expect this sort of thing but hugely interesting. Its good to see you doing something "just because"

  • @johnnyrandom100
    @johnnyrandom100 Před 8 měsíci +3

    cool jamming out the pinstriping. I have a Pacifica in the loft I was going to practice upgrading but so far I have just looked at it. Maybe this vid is the inspiration I need. But I think I'll skip the fretless.

  • @2009numan
    @2009numan Před 8 měsíci +2

    without the frets you get a type of zitar sound when sliding

  • @philipsanders5024
    @philipsanders5024 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I can remember an email conversation with you about fretless 6strings from about 2 years ago, when you said you would get a reasonable priced 6string and defret it. It's been a long wait but the result is well worth the wait!!! Thanks for this one Ted

  • @rankenfile
    @rankenfile Před 8 měsíci

    Totally enjoyable in all aspects. Humor, talent, results.

  • @brushstroke3733
    @brushstroke3733 Před 7 měsíci

    I love that "mid 90s coffee table vibe!" I'd like a Tele with that walnut Danish oil look.😊

  • @cameronwhite9959
    @cameronwhite9959 Před 8 měsíci

    Great as always Ted! I've just defretted a pair of lefty basses, and I'm happy to see I didn't miss many of your steps! I drilled out the side dot markers and put new ones on the Fret line. I used RAT test swab sticks for the white dots :-) I moved the dots because I had a defretted Fender bass and sold it because I found the dots and fret lines too distracting. I have a Factory fretless maple P bass now, with just dots where the 3rd, 5th etc frets would be. I also have a 80s Torch factory fretless Jazz bass, but had to redo the dots, which were *between* the frets, ie a quarter tone flat!

  • @MLoerAudio
    @MLoerAudio Před 7 měsíci

    Amazing as always!

  • @michaeldorcey9305
    @michaeldorcey9305 Před 7 měsíci

    Love it! Some things completely different!

  • @arnoldmmbb
    @arnoldmmbb Před 8 měsíci

    This episode is just fantastic Ted

  • @chrispfeifer7628
    @chrispfeifer7628 Před 8 měsíci

    Good to see you do something just for yourself to enjoy. PS, we all go overboard when decorating our own things, like pinstripes, etc.. Cool guitar and video

  • @jp2246
    @jp2246 Před 8 měsíci

    What a satisfying video to watch, thanks for sharing!

  • @davestambaugh7282
    @davestambaugh7282 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I have seen videos of Billy Gibbons doing pin striping on a Less Paul, He is very practiced in it .

  • @alexbostelle287
    @alexbostelle287 Před 7 měsíci

    The pin striping has that old arcade pin- ball machine art vibe ....very successful

  • @Kafrifelle
    @Kafrifelle Před 8 měsíci

    Amazing work as usual

  • @jessejamez5985
    @jessejamez5985 Před 8 měsíci

    Amazing work as usual.

  • @gigmandrew8975
    @gigmandrew8975 Před 8 měsíci

    The graphics that you did on the top of that guitar are perfect! Ole'

  • @cwh050
    @cwh050 Před 7 měsíci

    „That mid-nineties coffee table vibe“ 🤣😂🤣

  • @simonhawker9277
    @simonhawker9277 Před 2 měsíci

    a piece of Holly wood, Hooray!, ticking off the humor as well as the tasks, nicely done,

  • @JeeWeeDonkers
    @JeeWeeDonkers Před 7 měsíci

    Nice work! I have been playing with a similar idea, utilizing a sustainer pickup of some sort. I love the way you inserted the veneer "frets".

  • @SeeMick1
    @SeeMick1 Před 7 měsíci

    Really enjoyed the bagpipe music from outer space at the end.

  • @doublechinmask3744
    @doublechinmask3744 Před 8 měsíci

    beautiful guitar

  • @Ronsonic
    @Ronsonic Před 8 měsíci

    Loved seeing your exploration of pinstriping. I've dabbled, lack the passion to get good at it. I think you nailed the Tiki vibe. Looks like a fun thing to play. I've long been a fan of Korean guitar production from the nineties. Some of my favorite low-mid price guitars.

  • @mccypr
    @mccypr Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks! Happy holidays! 🤶🎅🏻🙂😎

  • @mariodriessen9740
    @mariodriessen9740 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Very cool! I’ve always wanted to do this to (indeed) be played with an E-bow. I went a slightly different way, because at the time I didn’t want to do something as extreme as removing frets, although I did think that was the best option if money wasn’t an issue. So instead of removing frets, I started using a bottleneck. It’s not the same, but it gets you in that same ‘violinesque’ vibe.
    Very nice project indeed! ❤

  • @timedwards7338
    @timedwards7338 Před 7 měsíci

    Loce Duncan's designs, would love to play if i ever get the chance. Cool to see you dipping your toes into the fretless mod world!

  • @mellowvids9637
    @mellowvids9637 Před 8 měsíci

    Great stuff !

  • @mhoop1
    @mhoop1 Před 7 měsíci

    my 1st electric guitar was (still is, i'll never get rid of it) my 1991 Yamaha Pacifica HSS. the white plastics have 'tanned' nicely, and the wood has a natural finish sunburst. it's a gorgeous guitar and was (to me) a steal back in the day for around $150. Watchin you work on your made me appreciate mine.
    AND I'M TOTALLY GOING TO FRETLESS SOME OTHER GUITAR THAT WAS AMAZING.
    I just missed you in Chicago; I was there but had a packed schedule. If the conference had gone to Sunday (like I thought it did and I had planned for...) I could have attended all day. Oh well.

  • @Ron_Padgett
    @Ron_Padgett Před 8 měsíci

    Very cool! Great job! And hey man your pinstriping actually looks pretty good!!!

  • @stellingbanjodude
    @stellingbanjodude Před 8 měsíci

    Guitar turned out awesome, I’ve had the same idea about inlaying the fretboard like that. I like the pinstripe as well.

  • @bryanrulz3904
    @bryanrulz3904 Před 7 měsíci

    Awesome video Ted. Never seen this done before. Hope you and your family are doing well!

  • @claudevieaul1465
    @claudevieaul1465 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Nice one!!
    Been tempted to do this to an old guitar as well ;)
    I've already converted a bass to fretless some years ago, but instead of oiling the fretboard, I've put a layer of epoxy on & sanded that to radius and polished it.
    This really brought out the harmonics!
    Even with flatwounds it has that nice, almost human voice quality "wowww" sound you'd expect, and it sustains beautifully...

  • @Bolandcustoms
    @Bolandcustoms Před 8 měsíci

    You broke the biggest rule in pinstriping!!!! All lines must join!
    Haha iv been incorporating it into my custom paint jobs for over 15 years and still find myself wiping off a whole piece if I'm not happy with one line.
    Good video as always, keep it up.

  • @garetkonigsfeld2
    @garetkonigsfeld2 Před 8 měsíci

    I owned the exact coffee table..another amazing job thanks for taking us along 👍.

  • @sweettoof9002
    @sweettoof9002 Před 7 měsíci

    I had a Pacifica just like that one. Good guitar. I gave it to my step son who still plays it.

  • @TheModmc
    @TheModmc Před 8 měsíci

    good to see you having fun at the end

  • @joelfildes5544
    @joelfildes5544 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Looks like it was setup for slide playing originally.

    • @customfreak81
      @customfreak81 Před 8 měsíci +3

      That was my first thought too

    • @sbrown1953
      @sbrown1953 Před 8 měsíci

      Yep, that was not the original Yamaha Pacifica nut.

  • @chrisdrake447
    @chrisdrake447 Před 7 měsíci

    Love it, especially the clean-ish drunk bagpiper sound 😅

  • @fulci6734
    @fulci6734 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you Ted 👍🎥🎬🎸❤‍🔥

  • @FreeSpeechWarrior
    @FreeSpeechWarrior Před měsícem

    I'm just a couple minutes in on this video but please do not desecrate that beautiful Yamaha Pacifica. That thing is gorgeous.

  • @ahg1358
    @ahg1358 Před 7 měsíci

    A perfect example of the e-bow Mick Ronson playing with David Bowie song Heroes on The Freddy Mercury tribute. Good stuff indeed .

  • @tigdogsbody
    @tigdogsbody Před 8 měsíci

    Fun project; thank you, Sir.

  • @mrclaus859
    @mrclaus859 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks Ted very informative and interesting what fun. Cool !!

  • @docp7016
    @docp7016 Před 8 měsíci

    Wonderful mod, loving the holly inlays.

  • @joebodynobody764
    @joebodynobody764 Před 8 měsíci

    Nice to see a professional use their craft not only for the monetary aspect but also because they genuinely enjoy their craft.

  • @muddynyc
    @muddynyc Před 3 měsíci

    You are so darn good!

  • @Byron_Blue
    @Byron_Blue Před 7 měsíci

    Likely a riot to fool with on the bedroom amp. I’ve made fretless bass guitars for people but never a 6 string. Brave move and nicely done Tim!

    • @Byron_Blue
      @Byron_Blue Před 7 měsíci

      @twoodfrd... No problem Tim. I’m in Cornwall Ontario if you’re out and about. 🤓

    • @Byron_Blue
      @Byron_Blue Před 7 měsíci

      @twoodfrd... I don’t know how to post my email privately here

  • @mjf1036
    @mjf1036 Před 7 měsíci

    very cool mod. That is the first fretless I have seen with "markers" on the fretboard. I agree it will make playing much easier and more accurate. As for E-bow, The 1997 album Disciplined Breakdown from Collective Soul, Ross Childress played some very emotional fills and solo with the little vibrator. Love this content, Mr. Bob Ross of the luthiers

  • @daddymidwest4111
    @daddymidwest4111 Před 8 měsíci

    Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kindablue1959
    @kindablue1959 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Next challenge - a scalloped fingerboard. McLaughlin mastered it, doing both Indian and Jazz styles. Indian music uses just intonation and does lots of very subtle bends in and out of perfect resonance, so the scallops allowed him to adjust his pitches on the fly and sound more Indian on his Shakti albums, and he could play jazz chords on his scalloped electric, where each finger moved independently as he modulated keys, making it sound very horn-section like.

  • @SpillOppMaker
    @SpillOppMaker Před 8 měsíci

    Cool project!

  • @gaylen8467
    @gaylen8467 Před 8 měsíci

    Sounds GREAT, all buzzy and such

  • @kuglepen64
    @kuglepen64 Před 8 měsíci +2

    IT'S PRONOUNCED GIFMEN JUST LIKE GIF

  • @melodicdreamer72
    @melodicdreamer72 Před 8 měsíci

    Glad to hear you still have fun with lutherie Ted. That is most likely why we enjoy watching your videos. I am just amazed by how fast the thumbs up are flying while I write this. Awesome as usual!

  • @reefe5657
    @reefe5657 Před 8 měsíci

    Very nice. I like the look.

  • @gwbuilder5779
    @gwbuilder5779 Před 8 měsíci

    Interesting project.👌

  • @jeffkatzer
    @jeffkatzer Před 7 měsíci

    A wild one. Thanks.

  • @kennethbourne2766
    @kennethbourne2766 Před 7 měsíci

    Sweeeeeeeeeeet !!!!!!!!! Love this channel ❤

  • @zaraak323i
    @zaraak323i Před 8 měsíci +1

    Not the Craw, the CRAW!

  • @thehark6247
    @thehark6247 Před 8 měsíci

    The pinstriping turned out great!!

  • @p_mouse8676
    @p_mouse8676 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Yamaha Pacifica guitars actually used to have Seymour Duncan pickups.

  • @duckdodgers8106
    @duckdodgers8106 Před 8 měsíci

    Great as always. Next, add a Frampton Voice Box. 😊

  • @In_MT
    @In_MT Před 8 měsíci

    What an amazing instrument now!

  • @honkabooly
    @honkabooly Před 8 měsíci

    great stuff!