What Happened When We Started Our Own Intentional Community
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Pat Landsel started an intentional community along with her husband and several other couples in the 1970s as an outgrowth of their experiences in the Jesus Movement. In this video Melinda interviews Pat about her experiences.
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God bless the aunt!!! May the Holy Spirit guide you forever!!! I wish him good health from Hungary!!!!
What beautiful honesty and non-judgment!
I have learned so much from just listening to this dear lady. And I have learned so much from the other interviews. My spirit has been touched so deeply thank you.
What a beautiful interview with Pat Landsel! Thank you so much Pat for your love, openness en honesty!
Pat's testimony is nostalgic time for me. She is right about the heart. I believer that to be the comforter.
I really enjoyed this, Pat is an inspiring example of what decades living in community would be like.
Wonderful interview. I am myself a non-believer but I am taking note of how intentional community is beneficial!
I am so grateful for this shared story and this community of people.
I was in the Holy Spirit groups in the 70s. I was thrilled to understand about the move of the Holy Spirit.
This is an interesting story, I am a fan. Late last year I volunteered as a videographer at the first australian conference of the global ecovillage network, and at first it felt great to be meeting many like minded folks, but eventually proved to be that the like mindedness was limited. The limits of the labels "global" and "eco-" became revealed. Their organization had said "yes we include many Christian ecovillages in our network", and "yes, we need to orient our training in Australia to include indigenous Australians", but when I volunteered with them to help them include lessons in indigenous Kinship (I learned traditional indigenous Kinship among indigenous Christians) they simply didn't believe what I taught. I tried to say that in remote corners of Australia are indigenous villages who are in full faith in Jesus AND fully sustaining of their traditional culture and its land care values and practices and kinship. I know because I am in their kinship as a Christian. So why didn't the global ecovillage network want to believe me? Simply because they were afraid of their own selves having lost the understanding of the need to be repentant of sin. When we think about families and communities who are not talking about God, if we consider them because we see they are nevertheless trying to do good in the world, we can't afford not to face the fact that if they can't repent they won't achieve what they are saying they do. It will be all on the surface if they haven't repented and embraced Jesus as King of Kings. Nevertheless there are good people at some ecovillages, and Ina May Gaskin springs to mind of course.
Wow Pat was so interesting to hear from! Thank you!
What a kind and open minded person.
I am definitely look into this.
Being raised as a Muslim, I think Pat has such a angelic soul, I wish everyone in the world can think the way she does. Only God can truly judge someone’s soul. I think no matter what religion you are as long as you have a good heart and good intentions in this life thats all God wants from us.
You're a beautiful lady! Wowee! God bless you all
Thanks my dear friend Pat,
Sisterhood and Brotherhood is the whole of Christianity, and of Buddhism and other major faith practices. Jesus said, to love one another , as it is the "whole" law .Centuries earlier, Buddha said the same, it is the "whole" of the practice. To find community in any form is never easy because it is not the first goal. Jesus and Buddha taught that It requires our entire being to awaken (metanoia) to become honestly aware of our habits, our misperceptions, our suffering, strong likes and dislikes; all of dualism. True community requires me to awaken, to step away from my separate self toward honest awareness to a deeper understanding of myself, which leads to that "whole" of the faith - a community requires a heart of compassion for all beings, all phenomena. Realizing , and actualizing our interconnectedness in gentle compassion and non judgemental equanimity, is to realize our aspiration of true community, whatever it's form. I know that Pat knows this. Thank you
great video god bless you
Thank you 😌
Beautiful ...really enjoyed this interview ...2 very sweet ladies ..
Thanks for listening
Sadly, the Charismatic renewal pulled so many Catholics away from the Mystery of the Holy Eucharist. I’m happy that you all found peace in your decision.
Pat had corresponded with me when I was in my twenties, last month I came across our letter and decided to let go of them only to find her here. Do you allow other denominations live within your community, such as Catholics? Is there a set of rules that the Bruderhoef live by listed online?
Hi Jan! Anyone is welcome to visit. Here's a link to our Foundations document: www.bruderhof.com/en/our-faith/foundations
I've visited quite a few secular communes. I think it's a smart way to live, but I don't fit into the subculture's that predominate in them. Maybe I should try something different.
90 % failed ....I love the possibilities of my individual life. Will I lose it in following Jesus and join a intentional community?
Ulrich Wrede Your comment is vague, are you saying that you are being led to Intentional Community living? I think about it so very much, and I sense a leading in my spirit...but I don't know how to meet others who are believing it is what The Lord wants then to do also.
@@untilIgetbackHome I know the Bruderhof for many years. We had a few short visits at their location in Germany. The Community is remarkable and we met great people. If you have the opportunity to visit a Bruderhof: Do it. And then perhaps ... see above.
Ulrich, each person will always be a unique child of the King, with a unique mix of giftings, talents, personality, creativities. True Christian Community is never seeking to make cookie cutter, identical people in that sense. Community is about unity in our diverse giftings and qualities. The unity IS Holy Spirit, the SAME Spirit living on the inside of us.
Paul explains this diversity voluminously. We are certainly not expected to all be the same, but we are ALL called to die to the carnal, fallen desires of the flesh, and encourage one another in the journey of maturity and growing up into Christ fully. We cannot do this alone. God designed us as a Body to accomplish everything good, pure, and holy together, not apart.
I hope this helps! My favorite preacher says this:
"God only asked us to give up everything we were never made to be in the first place!"
We were made to reflect HIS image. We all have our own unique part to play is expressing the image, the character of the infinitely loving God! Our goal is to become a continual expression of God's multi-faceted LOVE!! This is best done in community. It is simply the fullest, not only, expression of a lifestyle of selfless love.
Do you have a time when you repent of your sins and ask God's forgiveness, and give all control of your life over to follow Him and His Word and obey His leading?
So basically if you have a home, car ect that you own, you've got to get rid of those things and donate the money to the community if you want to join????????????? 😒
Tabby Panda it appears to be so. That would stop me. I like the community spirit, but I would want to own my own tiny house, have my own transportation. I would be willing to donate to shared resources, community buildings, meals, tools, laundry facilities etc. I would be fine working to help, but I don’t want to surrender everything. Also, I have Christian friends, and appreciate that me not being a Christian is not an issue with them.
I have my nest egg, and I will not give that up.
@@peachion2 😒I'm tellin' you? That in itself is oppressive, Damn y'all restrictin' my movement ECT😒 ion like it
I love you
Although this is based on some great spiritual principles, they take it too far when they start condemning things like owning your own house. For a man to take care of his own household is Biblically based, so they should not mandate legalistic rules like living together in the same house with other families. It’s also not Biblical to isolate yourselves from the world, because the Bible tells Christians to live IN the world, without being OF the world, so as a Christian, you’re SUPPOSED to be witnessing to people in the world - you’re supposed to be a LIGHT to the world, and the Bible even tells us NOT to hide our light, so Christians should not isolate themselves - they’re supposed to be sharing the Gospel with people in the world! Also, living with other families is not necessary to have a community. I attend an evangelical church of about 1000 members, but we divide ourselves into “life groups” which are small groups of 8 to 12 church members that meet together in homes, once a week, because community IS important, but we also make time to spend with our own families! Parents should raise their own children and have some degree of privacy & their own space. Living in a commune with a bunch of other couples could easily lead to some problems, like for example, other people interfering in the way you’re raising your kids, & pushing their opinions on you, when it’s an issue that should stay between the mother & father and their children, and other community members should NOT have any right to interfere, unless there’s a valid reason to intervene, such as cases of abuse, but in normal matters of conflict, friends should stay out of other families business, unless they are asked to help! The original premise of community is good, but this type of model, of living with many other families, could easily become very CULT-like, because other members could start controlling your life too much, which could restrict your freedom. And freedom is a God-given right and gift! The Bible says that Jesus brought the truth to set us free! However, communism always ends up TAKING FREEDOM AWAY from people! Freedom is a Christian principle - that’s why taxation is wrong - it restricts our freedom and makes us slaves to the government! The freedom to own your own property is not a sin, so you shouldn’t say it’s wrong! To say that nobody should have their own property is communism, so I sort of wonder if this seemingly Christian movement might actually be a deceptive push toward communism, disguised as Christianity!
If a person enters in such a community, they are well informed in advance of how the community is based on, so there is no forcing anyone to not own property if they do so willingly. In regards to not having enough privacy in such a community, that would be a problem for me as well. I love the fact that there is close intimacy between the community members, some intervening in personal things such as proper education and discipline of children is an extremely healthy thing if it is spoken properly and also received humbly, but one would need a healthy balance of privacy as well.
My biggest issue is when such communities isolate themselves too much and they put aside the great commission of making disciples of all nations, but I am not sure if they set aside this commandment by watching this video.
When it comes to this topic, it is extremely important to pray for a renewal of our minds because we have been programmed from childhood of how life should be and what is normal. What you said about a mega church having small weekly meetings just does not cut it for me, It is a poor attempt of a community life, let's not fool ourselves here. I believe one has to be called to live in such a community, but also, one needs to do his or her part to think outside of the cultural and worldly box, we need many revelations of God to do this, and then we need the Holy Spirits guidance and the fear of God and the love that 1 Cor 13 talks about, to build such a community.
Who asked your opinion about how they choose to live?
Xmas is pagan.
NO, God is NOT with them if they are not saved!
Next time, please interview someone who makes sense.
"Labelism"??? It's all about whether you are BORN AGAIN or not! What did Jesus tell Nicodemus??