Beyond Medals: Best Uneven Bars Specialists at Worlds from 1970 to 1999 - WAG
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- Points explanation:
8th: 1 point
7th: 2 points
6th: 3 points
5th: 4 points
4th: 5 points
3rd: 7 points
2nd: 8 points
1st: 10 points
Gymnasts in the video: Svetlana Khorkina, Maxi Gnauck, Lavinia Milosovici, Daniela Silivas, Shannon Miller, Ma Yanhong, Ludmilla Tourischeva, Gabriele Fähnrich, Emilia Eberle, Fan Di, Dominique Dawes, Marcia Frederick, Mirela Pasca, Lilia Podkopayeva, Ecaterina Szabo, Dörte Thümmler, Dina Kochetkova, Karin Janz, Liubov Sheremeta, Elena Piskun, Kim Gwang-suk, Annelore Zinke, Luo Li. - Sport
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I would love to see modern-day gymnastics utilize the low bar more and have more transitions like they did back in the 70s. Nowadays, it's just basically a high bar routine.
Couldn’t agree more.
With the bars as far as they are today, many of the skills they did before are now impossible. Variety is also limited, since there is no option for a switch involving any other part of the body except the hands, and there needs to be a lot more momentum built up for a transition to happen.
Finally found others that feel the same way I do. With the bars so far apart there's less fluidity in the transitions and the routines may only use the low bar to mount the bars and then spend majority of routine on the high bar all doing the same handful of skills.
@@gothgirl4evr881 exactly, they have all grown boringly near-identical. I just remember how great Nadia and Olga were to watch, their routines were exciting. Now we are watching the women do men's moves with the occasional switch to the low bar, just to make it official that it's not a man's routine.
These are awesome!
I really miss the performances from back in the 70s and 80s when the bars were closer together and they worked both bars evenly. Now most of the routines are done on the high bar. The routines had more fluidity when they were closer together in my opinion. They were stunningly beautiful
Dominique daws had fantastic handstands - so straight and perfectly vertical.
i find it so funny how rare shaposhnikovas and paks were and how they would be amazed everytime they came up, like we hardly see other types of transitions nowadays
Some of them have possibly been forbidden.
Back in the days when they would show and comment on other countries gymnasts, not just our own. Miss those days of the Olympics.
Was not surprised to see Svetlana as the no 1.... She was amazing to watch.
Khorkina is amazing, my favorite gymnast ever.
Khorkina vs Biles today....
What is crazy is to think, from the 1996 Olympic Games to the 2001 worlds she was never defeated on bars! Shows how masterful she was on that particular apparatus.
It shows us how little innovation there has been on uneven bars in the last 10-15 years. Also every single one of these girls had stretched feet with ankles together in every handstand instead of the all too common sickled feet we see today.
And I don’t like the spread knees in the tucked position that is common now. Terrible form!!
I do not watch the modern competitions any more
I gymed in late 70’s and first half of the 80’s. My mother ran a ballet studio so I had a strong dance background. Worked at a gym in the 20 teens and really worked with my girls on presentation, turn out and not sickling the feet. The team head coach told me that stuff wasn’t important and I should be working on difficulty. I don’t work there anymore.
The ones from the 70's and 80's are soooo much better and way more interesting than the same old ones they do today and they are way harder than today!!
That’s your opinion. I think todays gymnastics are sooooo much more difficult and hardly boring. The girls from 1970s and 1980s could never do what is being done today on any apparatus. Perhaps you are bothered by seeing African American women dominate a sport that skinny Europeans and Chinese women once dominated. Oh well, progress rules, not the past.
Floor and vault have really become more exciting than they used to be, but bars and beam seem less and less creative. It’s great to see these historical bar routines.
I agree but even floor has become less creative it's more about how high powered difficult tumbling passes then it is about a mixture of dance skills and tumbling skills. I miss watching the exhibition meets back in the 90s where it wasn't a competition but a show where the rules were relaxed a little and the gymnasts could use rock and roll, country, or whatever music not just instrumental and they could where costumes that matched their routines. They don't do those anymore.
That routine by Karin Janz lives rent free in my head but I've never seen it from that angle!!
East Germany ( GDR) owned uneven bars in the 1970's and 1980's. Karin Janz, Maxi Gnauck, Dorte Thuemller, Gabrielle Fahnrich and Dagmar Kersten all time greats !
Totally agree....
Just stunning routines, so much more dynamic than the Shaposhnikova ping pong routines of today. Would love to see more variation back in UB but the way FIG is going, I don't think they will ever do it. For some reason they seem happy to watch the sport decline before their eyes.
I agree that modern bars can be very formulaic, but I don't think the problem is actually because of Shaposhnikova and pak transitions. They are used frequently, but the alternative is some of the very dull transitions we saw in the 1990s, like standing on the low bar, that little "pop" thing kim and others do, and poorly executed bails that don't end in a handstand. Dina Kochekova's routine was greatly improved by a pak salto and shaposh, so it's really the rest of the routine and underutilization of the low bar that is the issue with some of today's routines, not the transition skills themselves.
@@stanleygagner While I see your point, I have to disagree. You can look at routines from the 2012 quad and before that to see good examples of what UB routines used to be like - routines like Huang Qiushuang’s, He Kexin’s, Tweddle’s, even Kyla Ross or Jordyn Wieber’s. Much more dynamic routines with more skill variety, that aren’t all practically the same routine over and over. Imo the transitions weren’t bothersome to watch at all. I’d rather have a poorly executed toe shoot at this point than sit through the same routine 100 times in a competition.
The sheer talent from these ladies is phenomenal. I could sit here and watch their gymnastics routines all day long, happily! When I was younger, I loved Nadia Commenicci (sp?). Mary Lou Retton was in the Olympics while I was attending my own gymnastics classes. I wish I could have started at a younger age, and been better at it. I so desperately wanted to be a professional gymnast.
Same here. I unfortunately had to move to a different state when I had just made the gymnastics team, in fact we moved on the day of what would've been my first competition so I never got to compete. Where we moved didn't have a good gym anywhere close to us so I had to quit long before I should've. I often wonder what I could've done had I not had to leave the gym I trained at so young.
Nadia Comaneci. We are so proud she is still remembered all over the world. 🥰
@@gothgirl4evr881 Just the same story
Some wonderfully creative mounts and transitions. This fluid elegance and originality is missing from current competition. Not the gymnasts fault when they have to chase the points.
Love the hop giants and the below bar twists--wish we saw more of those.
I agree now a days most of the routines are done on the high bar and there isn't as much fluidity and transitioning between the bars like when they were closer together.
There were a couple of these where I slowed it down to half speed to watch the transitions. It would be wonderful to see some of these again. I know it's all compacted in to get the points as high as possible now, but I still think something unusual would be nice to see once in a while.
Many of the transitions they did back in the days are now impossible because the bars are now too far apart.
@@catinabox3048I think that has taken so much away from the performances on uneven bars. I say that in every comment section I see on bars and this is the first one I've been in that I see others that feel the same way. It's gotten to the point that women aren't doing uneven bars they are doing high bar routines where they use the low bar to mount the apparatus. It isn't really much different then men's high bar routines.
So brilliant.
It would be nice to list the year of the recording.
Very cool selections . some rare and interesting routines. I watched it again immediately - then subscribed .
8:29 that is sick!
Is it possible to have the year each was performed in the future? I love thinking back to when I saw them on tv...and trying to remember when I saw them!
I can put in the next videos
Was wondering the same thing. Could sorta tell by the skills and the distance between the bars on roughly what decade they were from
Bar work from earlier years were so stunning to watch. So complex. Honestly, uneven bars today don’t look as artistic. Everything kind of looks the same.
Awesome. Like it
Luo Li won gold on bars with an incredible performance in 1994 but I never heard of her again after this competition (Brisbane Worlds 1994). I wonder what happened...
She retired at 18 because of hepatitis and later she married to a pommel horse athlete in US and live in US since 1999
Maxi Gnauck was pure POWER on bars. Loved that Khorkina got three clips for this. The bars GOAT!
where is Elena Muckina?
the routine at #2 was my favorite :)
Les deux meilleures gymnastes aux barres asymétriques de ces trois décennies étaient Olga Korbut aux JO de Munich en 1972 lorsqu’elle réalisa pour la première fois le Korbut flip, et Nadia Comăneci aux JO de Montréal en 1976 où elle obtint la note parfaite de 10.
C’est une insulte envers ces deux gymnastes exceptionnelles qui ont révolutionné le monde de la gymnastique de les avoir exclues de cette vidéo censée représenter les meilleures gymnastes au monde entre 1970 et 1999.
J’ai même remarqué dans les commentaires que personne n’a remarqué leur absence.
This video is about World Championships... idk why you are bringing their performances at Olympics here.
@@gymnasticfan9148
ce n’est écrit nulle part que cela concerne les championnats monde. Le titre de la vidéo présente les meilleures gymnastes au monde aux barres asymétriques et ne dit pas que c’est uniquement aux championnats du monde. Les meilleures gymnastes du monde peuvent aussi bien l’avoir été aux JO.
Olga Korbut et Nadia Comāneci sont incontestablement les deux meilleures gymnastes au monde entre 1972 et 1999.
@@ziva_libre_et_suisse The title says "at Worlds" not "of the world". Worlds = World Championships.
@@gymnasticfan9148
I’m sorry. In French, at world and of the world are the same.
at world --> au monde
of the world --> du monde.
Meilleures au monde ou meilleures du monde, in french it’s the same.
@@ziva_libre_et_suisse Oh ok, that makes sense. I will make an Olympic Games (and Olympic+Worlds) version after Paris, they certainly will be included.
What we have lost in artistry and beauty has been made up in the unnecessary viewing of private body parts.
Kim from Korea was incredible, it’s just such a shame she was too young and wasn’t allowed at the Olympics. Her country really screwed her over.
Svetlana Khorkina won all those bars titles for a simple reason- she was the queen of stuck dismounts. In that scoring system it made a huge difference.
Kim was allowed at the Olympics (and competed at the Olympics in 92). She shouldn't have been because technically she was too young, but they lied about her age so that she could compete. czcams.com/video/wrPyqCyhz24/video.html
She went to the 1992 Olympics.
@@lanpingpugshe did? Huh, I’d forgotten that! Did she end up not medaling, or was that something she ended up losing? I’m not as familiar with that era of gymnastics, only really getting interested in 1994 forward.
She didn't stick her dismount.
@@niseplank4527 oh ok, that explains it. That was extremely costly in the old 10 system, definitely.
Where was Elena Muhkina & her amazing kobut with a twist???
She won a silver at Bars (8 points). That's why she isn't here.
@@gymnasticfan9148That is irrelevant. It's about the performance not subjective scorings.
@@suchisthismystery2814 This is all about the results, not about my personal opinion. It's "beyond medals" because I also valued 4th to 8th.
@@gymnasticfan9148If it's "Beyond Medals", it should NOT be about the results! To make it such is a contradiction in terms!
@@suchisthismystery2814 You just didn't understand the whole point of this serie. It's to also valorize athletes like Chusovitiva, Streingruber who we always see in the finals but not always in the podium
Have the routines gotten longer over the years as more moves/difficulty are added? Seems like the older ones are a lot shorter.
There's a few that didn't state the name... I recognize Shannon Miller, Daniela Silvas & Svetlana Khorikova, but do not know the names of the rest? If anyone can tell me?
The name is in the left corner
Khorkina is the best of the BEST
Love Ludmilla
E. SZABO great...I had to rewind, M Frerick, E. EBERLE...I had to rewind...Nie to see S. Miller...she was great.
Where is Nadia?
❤❤
中国のジムナストの段違い平行棒の演技は大変素晴らしいですね!
I wish Elvire Teza was in here :)
Pity you didn’t put the year on each one.
Bars is the only event that I think has become less interesting and in many ways less difficult over time... Khorkina was the last of an era of true artists on bars (at least up til now). Now the agenda seems to be get the points and get off ASAP.
So much more interesting than today! Why did they change the bar distances?
Because of frequent injuries to gymnasts' hips.
Why is Olga Korbut's uneven bars done by somebody ese??
Olga kourvot la mejor
Korbut
Why don’t today’s gymnasts have this level of difficulty or artistry.
0:57 I thought that was only ever done once!
Oh no, the Korbut was popular for at least a couple quads.
I knew she did it more than once but didn't think anyone else performed though
Gabrielle mount!
My stomach hurt ouch on the bar
You don't feel it much when doing it with your stomach muscles tightened they way the gymnasts stomachs are
WHY I keep watching these kind of videos instead of modern competitions? For example Khorkina Vs Biles.........
Well tbh, Simone least favorite event is Bars and she’s not mostly known for her bars but the other 3. Khorkina may have better bars than Simone but she’s not coming close to Simone at all with the other 3 events.
These girls were brilliant 👏. Not fond of the gymnasts of today prefer not to watch them. Too butch
Did you forget Nadia; or you did con porpose?
It's only counting their performances at Worlds, her best result was a 5th in 1978
Did I miss Olga Korbutt
Her best result at Worlds was a 2nd, that's why she is not here.
Good job, you only skipped the best ones!
Read the title again... It's about results at World Championships
The 2nd girl, does a back flip, VERY SIMILAR to Olga Korbats, but thought this was banned, after she did this 'trick'!
I thought that was a Korbut flip too. But I didn't think anyone else performed it other than her. I was also surprised to not see her or Nadia in this video considering Nadia was 1st 10 but that was at the Olympics and not the World's.
Not for many years. The FIG's era of total repression/eating out Nelli Kim five times a day began later.
@@gothgirl4evr881 No, many people did it for some time. Mukhina did it with a full twist (!!!)
Being these bars back - and compulsories! Gymnastics is so boring today. The grace and elegance has been sacrificed to power.
Look at the form of these gymnasts. Legs properly straight, toes properly pointed throughout, legs squeezed together. The power gymnasts of today make moves look ugly. They need more ballet training especially the American girls. Legs gapped, toes turned in and not stretched. Watch these girls striving for absolute perfection. Beautiful.
So pleasant to see true gymnasts, not gorillas
And where's Nadia Comenaci!!!
Her best result at Worlds was a 5th
I was wondering the same but I knew her results were for the Olympics was positive what they were for the World's.
@gothgirl4evr881 true!
Svetlana, Khorkina une des reines des barres asymétriques et cette petite chinoise qui faisait un "gaylord" sur la barre supérieure, exceptionnelle...
No Nadia or Olga🤔
Olga have a Silver (8 points) and Nadia a 5th (4 points)
@@gymnasticfan9148 ✔ thanks
I'm assuming there will one that you do for best Olympic routines which will include them. Most people don't realize this wasn't for Olympic performances from what I've read in the comments
@@gothgirl4evr881 I was planning to do in the next year, after the Olympics
@@gothgirl4evr881 And also a version including Olympics and Worlds
i WONDER ABOUT THE UKRAINIANS ON HERE VERSUS OTHER GYMNASTS WITH MORE SUCCESS INTERNATIONALLY
I miss the creativity and originality of the older style routines. The code of points has ruined the style and flair of bars by making every routine look the same. Handstands are all, but they are boring to watch.
I would love for someone to change the year to 1777. Just for good luck !! There's a challenge . Anyone good at editing .!!! No 9's. Peace love and happiness. In the form of the year 1777 . Maybe Einstein will make it happen!!!
I would be SO INTERESTED to see how female chimpanzee would react to watching this, in "person",
NOT on a screen.
The female chimpanzee must be in the audience.
Then, after the female adult chimpanzee watch MANY routines by adult human females,
the arena is cleared and the female chimpanzee play on the UE bars.
I think it would be ABSOLUTELY mind blowing to watch female chimpanzee swing on the UE bars.
Not for gold...but for their favorite foods
And NOT at all forced...they would be doing it just for play & joy and their own reasons.
I would love to see what adult female chimpanzee do after watching adult human females.
Because adult human females, and males also preform for "prizes" and prizes equal money which equal food.
So it's ok to reward the chimpanzee also for preforming well.
But not forced to just for fun.