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- This week: Face-off! Join Chas and John for a Biden-Trump debate special as they unpack the good, the bad and the ugly with guests Republican strategist Liz Mair and former Democratic Senator Heidi Heitkamp. Planet America Fireside Chat 8pm AEST ABC NEWS
00:00 Welcome to the show - John Barron and Chas Licciardello
00:14 Biden-Trump debate - what happened?
13:11 How did they do? We ask former Democratic Senator Heidi Heitkamp
22:11 More debate analysis, the good, the bad and the ugly.
30:24 What next? We ask Republican strategist Liz Mair.
38:31 Nixon v Kennedy - the presidential debate that changed the course of history.
43:28 Goodbye
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341 million Americans, and these 2 are the best they've got?
It is…🤖
I know, It's really hard to understand. Particularly from the Dem side of things. Even putting up Hillary Clinton seemed a poor choice to me. It seems like the US political establishment has become so inbred and corrupt.
@@David_Beames yes Dem's Rino's are one in the same I want the entire government fired. they all take bribes.
@@David_Beames I was going to add to your comment, but on reflection I honestly can’t say anything…👍
C'mon, we have 25mil and the 'best' our leadership has included Morrison, Abbott and Dutton.
If somebody had high expectations for Joe, they’re either stupid of lying.
Biden's performance was just pathetic. It's elder abuse making him go up there and subjecting himself and all of us to that. Truly cringeworthy.
I honestly feel sorry for him. The First Lady needs to convince the guy that he can still retire now with a modicum of dignity. I don’t see him listening to anybody else.
It was like watching a slow motion train wreck… horrible…
@@carlkligerman1981she wont do that though. I think the little after "rally" if you want to call it that is evidence. Jill is married to the clout and power associated with her husband not Joe. Its disgusting
I wouldn't call it an elder abuse. He chose to run for second term. Yes, I agreed that he's too old. I have nothing against him, he'd be good president if he's younger.
it was better after the debate was over... but he was reading from a teleprompter then. To me, age is a small issue that people just choose to make a big deal out of.
@@Tech-geeky There was no teleprompter in the debate.
replace biden. he's only going to get worse and more senile from here
They have a replacement ready to go .... Her name is Kamala
CNN showed the world that America doesn't have a functioning President.
Good luck! I agreed with Chas, I couldn't see it will happen. But we'll see.
Why aren’t there age caps on Running President, neither of these clowns deserve another four years.
"DEMOCRACY" YOU FOOL
Because the founding fathers didn’t believe anyone that age would still be alive?
@@Xylos101 How is it democracy to block anyone under 35 from running but it’s fine for an 85 year old ?
@@fractalignthe 35 thing is BS. It's a bit of anti populism.
The average voter should be able to police that without laws
Replace Biden or get Trump back into the Presidency. That is the choice the Democrats face.
Replace Biden with who.?
@@turtle-frogsLori Lightfoot.
Democrats have many choices. Trump cannot get back in because he is losing his voters.
@@turtle-frogsme🙂🙂🙂 urm, I’m sure in the whole Democratic Party you can find a 40-45 year energetic, intelligent candidate. If they did this, the Democrat candidate would stroll in
@saberint that maybe so, but the democrats aren't that smart 🤔.
Thanks for putting this on CZcams. Thank you!
Why do you not say the moderators also did not fact check Biden? He told (or attempted to) tell plenty of pearlers. Trump was not the only one who lied on that stage.
Why do they say Trump didn't do well? He smashed it out of the park
Leftists yesterday : This is the Best Biden ever, his age is irrelevant.
leftists today : Are these the best two candidates we can come up with they are both too old.
I think you mean liberals or neolibs. Leftists have been saying since the 2019 primaries that Biden isn't up to it and someone like Bernie would be a better fit for the mood of the country and better policy wise.
Why is Australia not saying something about a person with dementia in control of the nuclear button. This should be a matter of international security!
because we're more better ... We don't like to discuss about age, that's too personal.. As long as someone can do the job, that's ok... That makes "us" more professional, I dare say it. Americans can only can take a a shot at Biden's age because they can. Albanese here in Australia is no where near as old, but he does forget as well, and has, yet no one here have questioned "why didn't he remember". no one cares ... we just move on if he can do the job. as it should be.
The most telling piece of intel from all this was 33% of viewers polled believed Biden WON the Debate?
Yeah??...Naah!! 😂
The bowl of green apples is much more aesthetically pleasing than when they have the red ones.
I suppose they did that for impartiality..❤️Democrat💙Republican
Why does this feel like reference from somewhere 🤣🤣
I want to see oranges or bananas next week.
lemons might be more appropriate
Skin colour shouldn't matter
Let Joe rest in peace he’s family should be honest and let him retire and step down.🫣😳🤔👀😩😞😦
Hell no vs Oh no.
PERFECT SUMMARY!
Original
Clever😂 You made me smile for the first time since the debate.
Which is Trump, and why? His policies and outcomes were quite successful, despite some errors.
Fantastic! I’m gonna steal that!😂
I think its time to start considering other options to replace Biden...And i say that as a democrat! Like Chas i've been on the defense for biden, saying that he should not retire. "He beat trump once, he could do it again." But man that was hard to watch. Trump looked insane, and should be an EASY win. But this was a torpedo in Biden's campaign and now im worried...
The dementia was obvious 4 years ago, but man...
Start? That horse did not bolt, it went to the glue factory ages ago yet people have still been putting out the feed and water for it, they should have done it in the second year of his term.
They had that opportunity before they sidelined RFK.
@@fractalignhahahaha. Fantastic joke!
@aoc4prez NOW you're worried ? You didn't realize this years back ? Have you perhaps been living in a cave on a remote island ?
Biden is a good man, but probably not physically fit for the job. But Trump…really?
Was, now he is just a husk of a man.
Biden such a good man that he took showers with his daughter when she was 12 . Biden is pure filth .
if there are others, let them run... I'm not in favor of either Biden. nor Trump..
Biden is like a puppet who's missing his puppeteer, while Trump needs an audience to survive.
Love Planet America, it’s the only ABC show I watch. These guys are straight down the middle, just equal criticism, with a little fun. Maybe a few CNN execs, could even learn from these Aussies.
If you think this is straight down the middle then you're on the far left edge of a cliff.
This is standard tax payer funded left wing waste of air.
Biden is a corrupt deep state puppet like most recent US leaders and they advocate for his presidency and give him the air of legitimacy.
Meanwhile, the left criticise the war mongering, funding militias and crony capitalism, which the deep state functions on.
Yet they understate Trumps policy positions and successes and popularity out of sheer hatred, because he is not an advocate of current left wing ideals.
It's not what he's done; the left forgive and overlook a lot of immoral behaviour, it's simply his politics they don't like and they'd rather submit the world to the tyranny of the unaccountable, corrupt, murderers that comprise the deep state.
I find it disingenuous when looking at global politics, it allears Biden and the democrats are far more dangerous to global stability and economic prosperity than Donald Trump and the republicans.
Lol Defs not straight down the middle
Yes, great comment. They are straight down the middle of Extreme left-wing evagelicial ideology, at times
Plant America is clearly left-leaning.
Are you kidding, these two are zooming down the left lane throwing bricks at Donald Trump every episode. Cmon man.
Fact check Trump ? Sure go ahead.
How will you fact check Biden - nobody can understand what the hell he was saying.
Ha, do you believe his lies? I feel sorry for you. He should be fact checked! The moderators were either lazy or scare of him.
Exactly, it's difficult to fact-check a walking turnip.
Do we know how difficult it is to fact check "in real time" ??.. Its bloody hard.. Live blogging is easier.
@@Tech-geeky That's rubbish. Moderators can fact checked on both candidates. They're either being lazy or afraid of Trump's agitation. So don't tell me that can't be done.
Democrats have two choices, stick with Biden - absolutely no chance. Or pivot to another candidate - and possibly have a sliver of a chance.
Should have been working on Biden's exit strategy sadly two years ago to bring in a fresh option well before this date.
The Democrats only hope is to have Biden to either step down gracefully or to remove him by claiming he is ill.
The fact they don’t know who should be president in 2028 in the DNC. There is no plan, the party is run by morons.
During the debate, did Biden mostly:
1: Glitch
2: Fall Asleep
3: Reboot
Like Button: All of the Above.
Just starting to watch it. I predict the two co-hosts are going to focus on “Trump’s lies” and how Trump “failed to answer the questions”. Let’s see if I’m correct…
Can anyone here be honest and just say that it is over. Biden is done, and Trump is a shoe in.
The world needs it.
I like to remind people that Bill Clinton, who left office in January 2000, is younger than both Biden and Trump.
Why do expect him to finish a sentence if you don't know how to start one?
Um Chas, as someone who had ties to he US via my fiancé, I can confidentially tell you that the millions of migrants crossing are burdening the social security system and are being granted expedited amnesty. We have had illegals being housed in New York, Chicago, Denver, Houston etc that have displaced thousands of people in the Projects and that have replaced many people on waiting lists as priority. Secondly, some of these migrants are literally handed prepaid food cards to use in bodegas and supermarkets with up to thousands of dollars monthly. When Trump says they are destroying social security they are LITERALLY making it harder for entitled citizens.
That Nixon v Kennedy segment was fascinating. A bunch of details I wasn't aware of in there.
Planet America rocks! These guys do editorial right! Objective, well researched and entertaining to boot.
I cringed and laughed my way through that debate, hooley dooley Biden looked like he didn’t know where he was whereas Trump looked strong even though 99% of what he said was a lie. That said Biden’s record is good but sadly enough people won’t care about that to swing the vote, they’ll just look at this
I think this is why politicians can do anything in office. Nobody cares about their legislative accomplishments. Trump says he wants to help the middle class but only helps the richest people in the country. And his base believes him.
Thank you Team Planet America, much obliged for the commentary and the entertainment.
Head cold? Really? If his usual behaviour's anything to go by, he's always got a "head cold".
Not one person who works at the ABC votes conservative. The bias shines thru in every ABC program. So much for viewpoint diversity.
Well said, I concur.
Genuinely scary that he’s CURRENTLY the president.
He made Trump look eloquent. Just awful, its not even funny, this poor poor old man. Let him go.
THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE FOR GOOD ANALYSIS ON THIS DEBATE.👍
Yeah, it's true. These guys have been on to Biden and his cognitive decline for years. They are just so good. Thanks Guys
I agree, these guys are spot on as usual. They have been onto Biden from the beginning even when it was so hard to see. Love the abc
To paraphrase Stealers Wheel…
Trump: Well, I don't know why I came here tonight
Biden: I got the feeling that something ain't right
Trump: I'm so scared in case I fall off my chair
Biden: And I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right
Here I am, stuck in the middle… wondering WTF happened to America? 😂
Very clever 🤣🤣🤣.
It must be so hard for Chas and John to have their hero fall apart.
They need a few weeks off.
Biden: I was shitting my pants the whole time but I managed to answer every question, yayy ice cream time
Trump: Illegal immigrants, it’s all their fault
Come on U.S. you must have better candidates.
You guys left out the clip of Jill Biden having to lead Joe off the stage.
Yes doesn't surprise with these two lefties.
My fellow Australians lets put this into context.
*FIRST:* America is still 25% of the worlds economy and most of OUR TRADE like all international trade relies on the US Dollar being the worlds reserve currency. Either our deals are done directly in $USD or the currency exchanges rely of $USD.
*SECOND:* We are about to stake the future of our nation's security on America still functioning as a reliable partner. I actually went to college in America and have many American friends. No doubt most American's can be relied upon but we are talking about the guy who sits in the Whitehouse as the world tries to deal with some very serious issues: Russia-Ukraine, Israel-Palestine and China-Taiwan.
*THIRD:* There's the elephant of all elephants stomping through the room, *CLIMATE CHANGE.* Make no doubt about it climate change will affect the worlds food supply and starving millions make for dangerous times. One of these 2 doesn't care and the other is incapable of doing what's needed.
Love America or hate it, doesn't matter as much as knowing the guy in the Whitehouse is *RELIABLE* and can be counted on to do the right thing under pressure.
Stop calling the USA "America" - America is a lot of countries.
@@topologyrob Quick question to sober you up. What do people call people from the USA?
It’s commonly called America and we all know it means the US
It’s USA…not America.
@@kallekas8551 Do people call Canadians or Mexicans Americans? You have to understand that language is there to convey meaning and everyone understands that America refers to the USA. Not the continent. Why are you being so precious about it?
It's not 'how fast American politics moves' it's about 'how short the collective attention spans are'...
Like Fox won't have this on high rotation till November.
What sort of doctor would
allow poor old Joe to keep
going when he obviously has
early-stage dementia? Dr Jill.
For Biden it was like five or six trains running on a track and the first one having a huge wreck and the others just crashing in upon it.
That's one way to put it.😂
All aboard the Biden train
🏢💥🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃
@@avus-kw2f213 Very clever, well done!
a train wreck ... 😆
They're seriously suggesting Harris the laughing hyena as a replacement !? How about the ghost of Ted Bundy !? Or yeh, the devil !? Couldn't do any worse.
Why do you invite a clueless lady, she has no idea what is she talking about
Are you upset because she's honest and completely factual?
Get your big brain out and admit your not smart enough to realise the truth
Neither of these men should be responsible for anything. It's terrifying. They have nuclear weapons... ffs.
Imagine Chas's eBay T-shirt purchase history.
Old Presidents for a dying empire
Let's hope
Do you mean to imply Biden's golfing handicap is not 6?
The DNC sealed its demise when they selected Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, Bernie is 82 but is sharp as a tack and would've wiped the floor if it was him debating Trump
That debate was absolutely staggering at showcasing the dire state of American politics.
Also: This analysis is 20% better than the Americans analysis. Its great. Well done Chaz and your co=host what-his-name-bill?
Errrr….John Barron. You’re welcome.🤣
John Barron and Chas Licciardello, both excellent.
@@TiggerEm Best and most entertaining analysis on this disaster* personal opinion.
@@kallekas8551 brain fart in my defence - of Course it's John ;-)
@@GerardHammond BRAIN FARTS ARE OK! or in code ВЯАГИ ГАЯТЗ АЯЕ ОК!✅
If you don't think illegal migrants take out of the US social security system, then you might want to take a closer look at New York and Chicago and what the illegal migrants are costing in health care, housing and other benefits. It is staggering.
I’m not sure this debate will change anything. Yes the debate was bad for Biden, he looked tired and old, because he is tired and old.
The GQP are always releasing videos to make Biden look old and senile so I’m not sure if they will get any benefit from clipping parts of the debate. Magas won’t be changing their vote, and others that didn’t watch the debate will think it’s doctored video like all the rest.
Democrats, independents and never trumpers will vote for Biden over trump no matter what, so it won’t change those peoples votes.
The relentless lies and not answering questions that trump did will be used to make him look like the maniac he is, so I’m sure the Biden campaign will make use of that.
trump didn’t look presidential, he looked like a liar, a cheat and a thief.
Biden should have left 10 months ago, I mean Americans knew his ability better than himself. He should have willingly given it up. There are a number of great Democrats who could have done very well. If Biden is the presumptive nominee, they are sure to lose. And that will be a pity because Trump is a thug and all his Republican politicians are liars of the first order.
TDS in full effect here
@@rodneymaslovsky4756Trump is out of control. But out of these two it’s Trump for me
@@Herbert12864 agree. Trump is a terrible choice for president. But Biden has now become a more concerning choice. The anarchist in me says, let's bring on Trump so that we can touch the flames of hell, so that we learn to never tickle the horrible heat again... ..... ..... ..... until next time.
No - as bad as Biden looked, Trump still came over worse with his never ending bulls**t
Old man or con man, I’d go old man because at least he’s honest, has the country at heart and most importantly, listens to his advisers.
More like con man or career criminal
This!
His deep state advisors
Americans don't seem to care about honesty.
He listened to his advisers ?! And what did they advise him to do ?! Go out there and dribble total garbage for 90 minutes ?! Cos that's all he did. Face facts. Biden is toast.
Trump didn’t ‘win’ the debate…. Biden lost it.
Trump does whine. And pulls faces like a small, petulant child
As an American, ngl. I absolutely love that about him. 😂 it's so entertaining and odd.
@@BruderAdrian You love that your potential future president behaves like a child?! USA is going to burn to the ground.
Even more important to put a younger, more handsome candidate up against him. Trump is vain, Newsom would totally rip the guy a new one and play on Trump’s obvious insecurities! Honestly the Dems, if they want to win, have to get behind Newsom. The guy is made for TV and a savvy operator. Harris for VP, she actually did well post debate, but isn’t popular enough to ensure a win. Another term in which to ‘grow’ into who she actually is, rather than playing the role she was assigned to in the Biden admin, could set her up to run next time.
Biden pulls faces like his pooping in his diaper.
Orange man bad
If only they could both be fired.
Many Americans were concerned about Biden's fitness for office. To say that this debate did not put those concerns to rest may be one of the greatest understatements of the year. He was a flat, rambling, senile old man.
A lot could happen between now and the election . But I would prepare for 4 more years of Donald 😢
Is this the best America can do??
The funniest thing is you assuming if Trump gets backs in it’s only going to be four years.
Looks like it @@user-mu9tn4on7w
@@fractalign Constitutionally limited to 2 terms
@@bmortloffThat’s the point. What evidence is there that Trump cares about the constitution? I would argue in fact that there’s plenty that he wants to tear apart bits of it - especially those that curtail presidential power.
50 more years of Planet America!? Bring it on guysss!!
Jill: "You knew all the answers".
Obviously Joe had all the questions.
🤣🤣🤣
The Republican punters take had me laugh..”holy crap don’t let either of them within miles of the Whitehouse”… “low bar”
Body language was presidential?! GTFOH
I feel like there should be more analysis of Trump's outright lies, refusal to answer important questions, and tendencies towards authoritarianism, election denialism and revenge. Inside baseball analysis should only go so far.
Just admit you've been played and weren't smart enough to realise it... simple
Its clearly the whole AvP "Whoever wins... we lose" thing. It's scary, that these two are the best that country can come up with.
Only if you ignore the legislative accomplishments of both candidates.
It's "scary" Biden + Harris are the best the Left have to offer?
Real scary!! ✊
Mmmm... That's a shame. 👍
Two Geriatric Rich Privileged Men; one can't finish a sentence, and the other can't construct one..........
And Joe continuing to be President is a scary thought!
I'm not watching this. I can't bear to see Chaz gloating over Biden's performance.
He's right though.. Truth better than cover ups
He tried his hardest... It's the most spin you could put on a train wreck performance. He said he did a terrible job, but proceeded to criticise Trump as much as possible.
Very obvious bias. Unsurprisingly.
cnn polls unfolded more than 80% doesn't change their mind regardless of how the debate turned out, meaning debates are a waste of time itself.
This debate was most enlightening.
Would agree with that generally but this debate was much different in exposing one candidates significant issues. Those will be headlines. RW media will have a field day. Joe's toast, sadly.
It was amazing to see Biden outdo Trump in terms of incompetence, even though Trump was at his incoherent, loony best!!!
What planet you on bro? 😅
If the British election is boring, replacing Biden at this moment will make the American election like riding a bucking bronco!
Those debates should also have a “None” as an option on the polls
It's the perception of the voters that will count during the next few months. Whether Biden thinks he's up to it isn't the point. If the voters don't think he has what it takes, Biden can't win.
Biden even fluffed his closing set piece! Time to step aside
My contribution to this discourse is that those Granny Smith's look pretty appetizing.
And no one is saying anything about them. There I was thinking there will a longer chapter discussing them to make us forget about grandpa Biden. 😂😂
This show does an amazing job at disarming its American guests and getting candid perspectives from them. Yes, this episode in particular but I also mean in general.
Minor detail but telling. The presenter and Biden himself consistently address Trump as 'President Trump'
He declared four years ago he was a one termer. Its now fairly clearly has parkinsons. Its cruel to push him into this.
Early onset lewy bodies dementia is my bet
You better be back next week 🤣
It was a horrible debate. No answered questions. If Biden had just ignored Trump and answered the questions, I would have been happy.
Pls consider organizing the vice presidential candidates debate. It is more relevant now than ever.
As soon as Biden began to speak, I thought, SLOW DOWN! He was trying to speak way too fast, which tripped him up! If only he had taken his time and slowed down, it hopefully would have reduced his mistakes.
I cannot believe that the Democrat Party thought it was a good idea to put this senior back in the race for president. Here is the proof they need to replace him, and let him retire in peace.
Trump answered no questions and just repeated his rally lies. What a terrible choice for US voters.
(D)Hideycamp made sense stating how poorly Biden performed (obviously), but then contradicted herself saying Biden was Ok as Pres. till Dec?? 😳Wt..?
Put your country first, not the party... no matter what side you're on. The USA looks pathetic with this nonsense.
A+ folks, love your work. the aptly described segment @22:11 yonder are refreshing insights to what has happened today. to you and all the crew, all the best.
Why is no one questioning who is actually running the US?
Neither Heidi nor Liz held anything back in their interviews.
He didnt have a cold no handerchief or cough
excellent show guys - thank you both
They both should go....and get someone younger for President.
The thing is that Heidi Heitkamp is practically a Republican. She was famous for voting for Trump and his judicial nominees.
Good job, you two, Chas and John! That was a great and balanced analysis, even for people who, like me, watched the Debate (Live).
very good ep.
If this debate was Trump Vs Gavin Newsom trump would look poor. Newsom is a great debater even though I am not sure he could get elected
I think Eric Swalwell, rep. from California, would be great as a Biden replacement. He was part of the first Trump impeachment hearing (national exposure), is a lawyer (quick on his feet & an eloquent orator) and has that throwback look - could be an extra on a "Leave it to Beaver" remake - that a lot of older Americans would subconsciously feel comfortable/nostalgic with.
i thought that too. i don't really like newsom... he seems greasy and over-priviledged. his smile feels fake.
swalwell always seems authentic and well grounded.
He's apparently good off his feet as well, especially with Chinese spies.
Oof bro no. He had a whole affair scandal with a foreign agent (spy) from China. 😅 that's a big ass Oof to not be hammered on by Trump for that.
@@BruderAdrian Did not know that. Just Googled it. Thanks for the info!
Heidi Heitkamp first democrat to confirm Trump did well
Yes I found that stunning to see how low the bar has been lowered in the US when Trump's performance could be even remotely call Presidential in what is called a debate, yet lacked any of the professional standards that most normal debates are meant to be held too. For me the real failure in the debate was that of CNN and its so called moderators who had zero control over what Trump said or did.
Excellent contributions from both your guests: Heidi Heitkamp, and Liz Mair. The can be no question that this no longer Biden v Trump. The new campaign hasn't taken shape yet, but the current one just ended.
It was honestly just sad, it felt like some kind of elder abuse. You can’t help but feel embarrassed for Americans when this is the choice they are being given.
So, for the past 3 years Biden had been coherent and well adept with problem solving.
Yet it takes this debate for you to acknowledge facts.
I truly love this show but it’s incredible to see how much you are ignorant to the facts.
My sentiments exactly! I feel like I’m in a Lemony Snicket novel! Have people not been paying attention up to now?
I totally agree with peoples opinions about Biden, but, why is no one calling out the factual lies that Trump has stated 😳🤷
because we all heard Biden say no soldier was killed on his watch
Everyone is numb to the lies because his supporters, GOP, corrupt supreme court all ignore it and want an elite dictorship to replace democracy. We are in Star Wars and the force is struggling to shine the light. Scary times!!!
That was Biden's job, by the way the debate was setup, and he blew that too
Because everyone knows that trump is full of bs however Biden is just bloody senile. I cannot fathom the Democratic Party’s stand on Biden.
Yeah, it was a shit house effort by the “moderators”
Liz Mair would probably do well as a candidate.
Head cold equals rapid onset dementia in gaslight speak