Classic WoW: Rogue Leveling Guide - Talents, Rotation & Weapon Progression

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  • @MetaGoblin
    @MetaGoblin  Před 5 lety +11

    I will have the weapon progression spreadsheet uploaded soon but I need to go sleep since I'm up at 6am for work.
    I can paste a rough version here for the meantime.
    Phase 1: Starting Zone
    Rockjaw blade - dwarf and gnome - troggs
    Gladius - vendor
    Brushwood blade - nelf - druid of the claw
    Kobold Mining mallet - human - kobolds
    Solid metal club - human - bounty of murlocs
    Stone Gnoll hammer - human - gnolls
    Frostmane Club - Gnome/dwarf - trolls
    Stinging mace - Orc - skull rock quest
    Phase 2: 10-25
    Level10ish
    Cutlas: Weapon Vendor
    Alliance - Solid shortblade - red silk bandanas - westfall
    Horde: Bonegrinding pestle - arugal’s folly - silverpine
    Engineer’s hammer - samophlange - barrens
    Level 18ish
    Alliance - Hardwood cudgel - mathystra relics - darkshore
    Horde - Elegant shortsword serena bloodfeather
    Level 24 ish
    Alliance - Phytoblade blisters on the land - wetlands
    Horde - at this point quest rewards become sparce so doing a dungeon might be a good options. But later on you might want to get the outlaw sabre.
    Phase 3: 25-40
    Between levels 25 - 35 the quest rewards are sparse. So again a dungeon might a good options or you can juse power on.
    35ish
    Ally: Ryedol’s hammer - a dwarf and his tools - badlands
    Horde: Sword of hammerfell - the real threat - arathi highlands
    Phase 4: 40-60
    40ish
    Neutral - black water hammer - deep sea salvage - arathi highlands
    45ish
    Neutral Zorbin mega slicer - zapped giants - feralas
    50ish
    Thrash blade
    Horde Spirit of the fearie dragon - weapons of spirit ferlas
    Alliance - Gryphon rider’s stormhammer - saving sharpbeak - hinterlands
    55+
    Alliance tidecrest blade - remains of trey lightforge - felwood
    Horde - Belgrom’s hammer - betrayed - azhara

    • @javierdelaros
      @javierdelaros Před 4 lety

      legend!

    • @GabrielShakkori
      @GabrielShakkori Před 2 lety

      What's your day job? Or was during this video

    • @MetaGoblin
      @MetaGoblin  Před 2 lety

      @@GabrielShakkori probably working with my dad 3d scanning/land surverying if i was getting up so stupidly early haha

  • @hqer2k9
    @hqer2k9 Před 4 lety +6

    Attack clipping is something I have never heard in any other video. So thanks allot for that tip!

  • @SpielMitMirSession
    @SpielMitMirSession Před 5 lety +35

    Relentless strikes in Assassination is a priority talent for every single build.

    • @thomasmcdonough7867
      @thomasmcdonough7867 Před 4 lety

      Not really, if you're using it to end fights which is what you're supposed to be doing it's pretty useless

  • @bigdawg2542
    @bigdawg2542 Před 5 lety +9

    Smashed it mate! Really good guide

    • @MrChipauketchup
      @MrChipauketchup Před 5 lety

      And how do you know that?

    • @bigdawg2542
      @bigdawg2542 Před 5 lety +2

      @@MrChipauketchup Because I've leveled a rogue to 60 and currently raid AQ40 every Weds :D Also helped MetaGoblin with some of the info in this vid!

  • @GintamaEnjoyer_1
    @GintamaEnjoyer_1 Před 3 lety

    Залетел на огонек Твоего прикольного канала! MetaGoblin
    на самом деле этот канал заслуживает бОльшего колтичества лайков
    С наилучшими пожеланиями

  • @apostolalex7496
    @apostolalex7496 Před 5 lety +5

    evis-que-rate sounds so fancy for an action that literally opens a person like an old lady's purse

    • @Arcahnslight
      @Arcahnslight Před 4 lety

      It's pronounced with a soft C, so Evis-erate. No hard C.

  • @HighseekGaming
    @HighseekGaming Před 2 měsíci

    Good cheeky advice

  • @thomasmcdonough7867
    @thomasmcdonough7867 Před 4 lety +6

    Can I just say at level 42 you get a better slice and dice with 30% speed increase, now you should be cheap shotting straight into a slice n dice, if there's two or more mobs add blade flurry and those mobs are down in seconds

  • @flash_gordy8415
    @flash_gordy8415 Před 5 lety

    great vid! ty

  • @andyhlfc1988
    @andyhlfc1988 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Isn't the majority of all rogue dmg, in general, from basic melee attacks? Shouldn't slice and dice always be prio?

  • @Rivey.
    @Rivey. Před 4 lety

    What is the song plays from the beginning?

  • @trebah662
    @trebah662 Před 5 lety +6

    Nice video!
    Eviskerate

  • @MrWeah2003
    @MrWeah2003 Před 5 lety +12

    Remorseless Attacks 2/2 is waaaay worse than starting with Improved Sinister Strike. For RA you have 40% CHANCE of crit; for ISS you get energy, thus more spells to cast/rotate.

  • @dadelaar650
    @dadelaar650 Před 5 měsíci

    good stuff

  • @jeremiahclark2033
    @jeremiahclark2033 Před 5 lety +22

    Love your videos. But I have to say it. Eviskerrrate! Lol. It's pronounced Evissserate. The C is silent.

  • @aimex
    @aimex Před 4 lety +9

    "Slice and dice is only good for long fights" ya wot?! White damage does your most damage, slice and dice straight away and youll be killing stuff a lot quicker during leveling

    • @hang-the-93
      @hang-the-93 Před 4 lety +1

      By the time you get the combo points in slice and dice on a normal mob, you are better off to just use the damage attack vs speed buff since the mob will die before you get to use the speed buff for very long at all, and likely by the time you get to the next one that slice and dice buff will wear off. I'd just keep combo points till 3,4,5 then use Eviscerate at which time the mob will be pretty much dead. Slice and Dice would be good in longer fights that last more than one round of combo point building, most random things you find won't.

    • @Snarkz16
      @Snarkz16 Před 4 lety +3

      @@hang-the-93 use snd asap with 1-2 points depends on mob difficulty

    • @Unmercey1360
      @Unmercey1360 Před 2 lety

      Yep. SnD 1cp is enough Most of the times

  • @logitfau252
    @logitfau252 Před 5 lety +6

    Why is SnD unessecary, last time i played WoW sword+SnD and sinister was the abilities to use for fastes leveling

    • @omarpasha79
      @omarpasha79 Před 5 lety

      You kill one mob at a time. And the lower levels of s and d aren't good. Ergo waste of energy.

  • @chance1776
    @chance1776 Před 6 měsíci

    Why do i need to buy and train these while he's just clicking them like nothing?

  • @Jules72Bear
    @Jules72Bear Před 5 lety +1

    Wtf you skip relentless in Assassination?

  • @jacobmyers5204
    @jacobmyers5204 Před 4 lety

    I went 5 into improved slice and dice cause I'm on PvE server.

  • @izidor
    @izidor Před 5 lety +1

    Id swap gauge for 3 points into evasion. A stun is already a stun no need it to be longer imho.
    Also i would take 1 point from Murder and poision from assasination tree and i would put them into Combat endurance = also much more sustain and you can combo it now pretty well with flurry on cooldown to pull massive AOE. At least i had good experience with that build and it profits more than 1% murder dmg

    • @JA-zw9ju
      @JA-zw9ju Před 5 lety

      izidor You want as much time from gouge as you can get. It can give you time to stealth and start with full combo... So its actually pretty strong, but go for what you think is best and important

    • @izidor
      @izidor Před 5 lety

      @@JA-zw9ju pvp wise ya but but for a "leveing guide" i see no reason to gauge.

    • @SkyRaven13
      @SkyRaven13 Před 5 lety +14

      @@izidor To bandage

    • @HermsWorldWide
      @HermsWorldWide Před 5 lety

      Lmao pepega comment if I've ever seen one

    • @MrWeah2003
      @MrWeah2003 Před 5 lety

      You want more time in Gauge because each time you use Gauge on that target it get's diminishing returns for that stun.

  • @neomisterp
    @neomisterp Před 4 lety +1

    I'm super paranoid and always ruin my spec by investing in stealth early on. How far away can people see me if they are equal level?

    • @tylerstewart3181
      @tylerstewart3181 Před rokem +1

      Enough to stop you in time if they are expecting you to engage.

  • @ChodeMaster
    @ChodeMaster Před 4 lety +1

    kek those talents

  • @zirk8747
    @zirk8747 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Lol I really came here for the weapons progression dam

    • @sonicartzldesignerclan5763
      @sonicartzldesignerclan5763 Před 2 měsíci

      Me 2 im not sure if i need to stick to daggers, which weapon to wear in which hand cause that make a difference apparently
      And also how i can switch from dagger to sword if thats better cause i only can fist,bow,dagger for now.
      Retail wow is already complicated but wow classic is atleast chilled
      Well its a game of 2004 it has to be chill

  • @Deadziez
    @Deadziez Před 5 lety +4

    Just so you are aware. A faster off hand does not mean faster poison application, poison is controlled and limited by a Proc Per Minute system (PPM), a common misconception is that a faster off hand applies poison faster therefore increasing DPS, this is not always true.

    • @zedski
      @zedski Před 4 lety +11

      Instant poison is not on a PPM system in Vanilla. It has a 20% chance to proc on each hit. It was not changed to PPM until somewhere in Wrath.

    • @Brumsey99989
      @Brumsey99989 Před 4 lety +3

      Try applying instant poison to both weapons, go dps something for 5 minutes and see how many stacks you have left on each weapon. Instant poison is not on ppm.

  • @DomSchu
    @DomSchu Před 5 lety

    Does Sinister Strike actually interrupt auto attacks? I never noticed that happening

    • @svenskerjoe
      @svenskerjoe Před 4 lety

      DomSchu no, proc from sword spec can reset your swing timer. And sinister strike can proc the extra swing from sword spec.

    • @DomSchu
      @DomSchu Před 4 lety +1

      @@svenskerjoe Yeah, that's what I thought. He mentioned here that you have to time sinister strike between auto attacks. I've always gotten the best dps by just spamming it as much as possible.

    • @thomasmcdonough7867
      @thomasmcdonough7867 Před 4 lety

      @@DomSchu that is correct, ignore the guide in that regard

  • @opticmedia8968
    @opticmedia8968 Před 4 lety +4

    Lol the only part I cared about, weapons, you cut 😂

  • @emjay9280
    @emjay9280 Před 4 lety

    Isn't it a myth that fast off-hand = more poison procs? I thought poisons are based on procs per minute?

  • @pompyromage
    @pompyromage Před 5 lety +1

    The way you pronounce eviscerate hahaha 😂

  • @classick7848
    @classick7848 Před 4 lety

    gl with that talents .. no poisons, no assassination talent. Its not leveling guide

  • @irishroker02301
    @irishroker02301 Před 5 lety +1

    Stack spirit? Roflcoptr

  • @Snarkz16
    @Snarkz16 Před 4 lety

    Drop all shit talents in assa except malice/isnd and take 11 point in sub - mod, camo and gs. Better stealth with lower cd and faster movement will save you a lot more time than small dps increase. Gs is great defensive cd, which also save a lot of downtime. Snd still useful, just use it with 1-2 points on fight start. Keep crippling poison on oh, dps loss is minimal, but a lot safer when you handle runners or being ganked. Make a macro:
    /cast [stealth] Pick Pocket
    /cast Ghostly Strike
    /cast Riposte
    /cast Sinister Strike
    and just spam it.

  • @Ghost-dy9sf
    @Ghost-dy9sf Před 2 lety

    Don't go weapon expertise. Expertise only helps you hit mobs higher levels than you where you glance which you never will be doing while leveling?
    Unless that talent works different than other weapon skills it's useless.

  • @wojeitalmu9189
    @wojeitalmu9189 Před 3 lety +8

    Not gonna lie I get tired of all these rogue guides telling you to basically spec like you're rping a furywarrior

    • @Awful.Productions
      @Awful.Productions Před 6 měsíci

      Years later and I echo this sentiment. I want to be subtlety, and everything says lol get good go combat, when I don't like the play style at all.

    • @user-eb6gr1ux6w
      @user-eb6gr1ux6w Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@awful.products.4649 then pick what you want man it's a game lol

  • @Razokav1
    @Razokav1 Před 4 lety

    Maaan you must hate your parents for naming you Metagoblin... :(

  • @Drewsterman777
    @Drewsterman777 Před 4 lety +2

    Your talent choices in the assassination tree are terrible. Ruthlessness and Relentless strikes are amazing talents. The fact you skipped over them completely tells me you don't know a damn thing about rogues and to not trust anything you say about rogues there after.

  • @Vondarkstar
    @Vondarkstar Před 6 měsíci

    Skience 😂

  • @jthrone7768
    @jthrone7768 Před 4 lety +1

    Eviskerate 😂😂

  • @kayneashby9346
    @kayneashby9346 Před 5 lety

    Static damage bruh.

  • @TurquoiseDragon
    @TurquoiseDragon Před 4 lety

    please reduce the bass in your voice recording, I have to turn my sub down every time i watch your vids :) thanks

    • @momentsoftriumph5972
      @momentsoftriumph5972 Před 4 lety +1

      lol wut kind of request is this. U want him to change his vocals so u dont have to turn a knob on ur sub. cant make this up

    • @nvde7768
      @nvde7768 Před 4 lety +2

      Joseph Carrizales hahaha bro wants him to use an EQ on his fucking voice recording? Can you master my album while you’re at it bro 😭😂

  • @brandonchelsea4506
    @brandonchelsea4506 Před 5 lety +8

    yet another low quality almost 0 effort "guide"...

  • @jeremylilly4218
    @jeremylilly4218 Před 5 lety +1

    Love how you stole the pannel idea from a number of other more respectdul youtubers.

    • @MetaGoblin
      @MetaGoblin  Před 5 lety +17

      I don't think any creator owns the legal wrights to the concept of a PowerPoint presentation lmao.