Better Than Olympus Body Cap Lens
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- I bought myself a fun body cap lens from 7Artisans, the 18mm F6.3 II, and I thought it was quite a fun lens for street shooting. I shared my thoughts about this "toy" lens.
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0:00 Intro
0:27 Disclaimers
1:13 Why Body Cap Lens?
2:26 Image Samples Reel 1
3:03 Design & Build
3:36 Lens Image Quality
4:34 Image Samples Reel 2
5:11 Olympus Body Cap Lenses
7:22 Image Samples Reel 3
7:58 Conclusion/END
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Was just debating buying one of these and then you make this video! Looks great!
Go for it
I have and love this lens on my Fuji X-M1. For street captures, everything is in focus, you can shoot from the hip, and since I am always cropping down, any weirdness on the edges disappear.
Yeah such a small and fun lens to use!
Hmm this might be an ideal lens to use as a Black & white, maybe even the grainy bw art filter. Couple that with the manual focus and that could be a fun project.
Indeed, the point of this lens is just to have fun!
really enjoyed your enthusiasm, keep it up!
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Maybe an inexpensive lens but you managed to coax some really good fun street photography images out of it.. but immediately upon seeing that I couldn't help wonder how it would do on something like your GM-1. Now that's a compact setup for sure! Keep shooting Robin.. we'll be watching
I will use it on the GM1 in the future for sure.
Thanks again Robin looks like a perfect fit for my EPL 1 mini they are a bit more expensive in the UK at around £100 but with a punt
I found these on sale on ebay, just ordered one. Very excited to put it on my Omd em5 mk1 that I picked up and use almost daily
Yes. That's it! I'm looking for a replacement for my broken kit 14-42 lens in my E-M10M3. Thank you for this review. But reviews says this lens is very very soft.
thanks for sharing! picked it up! 😊
I have this lens for my Fujifilm cameras, but I don't use them as much as micro 4/3. I enjoy the Olympus 9mm body cap lens, but I may have to get one of these for MFT. Thanks for the review.
No worries, it fits Micro Four Thirds cameras very well
nice Video, i saw some Picture in Black and White, and in Color, this was an amazing quality for the price. I must order it for a better life😁
Sold! The 7Artisans 18mm body cap lens has been on my shopping list for a while. I love the way a small pancake prime feels on the E-M 1 MKII, E-M5 MKIII and E-P7. The E-P7 is pocketable with a pancake lens, even more so with a body cap lens. For daytime photo walks and travel snapshots, the 7Artisans 18mm body caps looks like a good fit. For travel I would pair it one of these: the 14mm F2.5, 17mm F2.8, 17mm F1.8, or ideally 15mm F1.7.
I am sure you will love the body cap lens on your E-P7!
@@robinwongImages taken with E-P7 + 18mm F6.3 look like photos taken with my old Olympus Infinity Jr 35mm film camera. E-P7 jpeg settings: vivid, sharpness +2, saturation +1, highlight +1 or +2, shadows -2 or -3. The lens plus camera combo feels great in hand, but I much prefer images from either the 14mm or 17mm pancake lenses.
Thank you Robin 👍🏼👌🏼🌺🏵
No worries, glad I can share
Great video will look into it for my EM10 mkII, did you use focus peaking when using it.
I have both of the Olympus body cap lenses and especially like using the fish eye version. The lever focus is their worst feature. I enjoy your street photography .
Why is the lever focus the worst?
Thanks for the review, I´m gonna buy a EM1 Mark III this Black Friday, and this the type of lens I can afford for now. Good to know they are of an acceptable quality.
You do you but that sounds really terrible in the context of money spending. M1 III is a really overkill camera for such lens. Maybe you will be better with some really cheaper camera for that combo.
I have an EM1 mkIII and I have this lens but have never used them together. The EM1 is a great camera that’s on the bigger size and this lens is not very impressive (small and fun yes but not impressive).
I’ve used it with my GX1 which makes more sense because of the smaller body size.
Someone above me mentioned the 20mm f1.7, that would be a much much better buy. I have the version 2 and it’s one of my favorites lenses even though I usually prefer a wider focal length.
Thank you Robin, I don't know why, but after years of watching videos from you and others, it just really clicked that these are first a body cap, and a lens is just ready to take a photo anyway. Now they make sense.
I do like how this does the focus movement. Do you think that it is possible to make an F2 version? I just never take photos closed down so much, and more light gathering, to me, is the big advantage of M43 vs cell phone.
9mm F8 fish is great travel ultrawide lens for cityscape :) Takes no space and can cover whole square or large buildings. And it also can focus really close..
If you can live with the distortion, then all good
@@robinwong in worst case it can be de-fished, but its usually ok :)
Nearest ultrawide M4/3 is much larger. And also price is completely different. I bought this fish 2nd hand for about $60 equiv.
Hey Robin your sample photos really covered all aspects of this lens's performance. As a result, I shall purchase one at my first opportunity.
On your next live stream I shall ask about what you meant by the lens having poor contrast, and how that happens.
Sure, see you in the next stream
Thank you :)
No worries
I finally got an e-pm1 and it's truly the best camera I could've wished for ❤️ for around 60$
Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Maybe, but still wishing for an update to the very old Olympus 17 2.8 pancake lens which I have never warmed up to. I do have the 17 1.8, but will admit to a fondness for pancakes, especially with the older Pen ep and em and Panasonic gm cameras.
We need a lot of updates from them. Including weather sealed primes.
Hi Robin. Many thanks for another great and helpful review. I took a leap of faith and bought the lens online. It came today but I am having difficulty (very tight) mounting the lens onto my E-PL8. It is the correct M43 version but it feels as if the lens is just too "big". I'm very new to this photography hobby and I am wondering if this is a common issue. I would appreciate any feedback/advice from you on this issue. Thank you.
They make a similar version in a 35mm for Nikon Z full frame. I'm definitely debating on it since I have a 24mm and a 40mm lens already for my Z 5 so I kinda don't need an expensive AF 35mm lens right now.
If it is so cheap and fun to use at the same time, why not? But Nikon Z full frame cameras are also much larger, so this may not be the best fit. Imagine having this on a tiny PEN Mini, it is such a nice combo!
I’ve gotten some decent images - but my infinity focused images are garbage - which is what I was hoping to use this lens for. Any suggestions on Infinity focus? Am I missing a setting in my Fuji camera perhaps?
Buyed a olympus omd e m10 mark 1 today at mpb at this lens for street can wait to shoot with this duo 🤣
Perfect lens for Lumix GM1.😎
Indeed
I bought one for my E-PL 10, but then found XuanLens Body Cap Lens 30(32)mm F10 for about $30 USD. I tested both side-by-side along with my Olympus 15mm Body Cap Lens. The Xuan Lens is clearly the winner. No focusing and it almost looks homemade but the results are awesome.
The cookies alike?
What a positive buddy
Hi Robin - I recently got one of these and am using it on an em10ii. Question for you: when you are using this lens, does it ever actually look in focus in the viewfinder? I'm finding that mine doesn't really and I'm wondering if I just got a bad copy, or if I need to adjust my expectations. Thanks!
can we use this lens to capture motion video? like dancing
Not bad. Loving the construction and solid looking focusring.
BTW: did you ever come across the Paper Shoot Camera? Ever used one?
Nope, never heard of them. Any good?
@@robinwong They're lo-fi digicams without screen, simulating shooting film.
Its good for indoor wedding photo? How about vignette experience?
Man im so sad my shutter has failed and isn't going up i was having so much fun with my Olympus to
You made this lens look great. Not for me, though, but interesting nonetheless. Would be the perfect companion for the E-PM2 (that I no longer own - maybe I'll send this video to the new owner, he might actually find it useful).
Yeah pairing with smallish camera it makes sense
Thanks
Thanks!
I’m not a professional photographer, but I just like taking photos especially when travelling with family or friends. Will this be a good idea to buy for just capturing moments? I’m just looking for a lens that is easy to carry with my camera Fujifilm XA20 and XA5 that is not expensive. I have a Meike 35mm f1.7. It’s a good lens but a bit heavy for my taste.haha Your opinion will greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Great overview, Robin! I have a question about body cap lenses though, which probably is such a noob question, but I'm doubting.
Is a "body cap lens" a lens you don't put, well, a lens cap on? Are they really used as a body cap for the camera body without any added protection? Do they have any sort of feature to protect the lens themselves from damage if they live "out in the open"? I'm very curious, because if the answer is "yes, they are constantly open, no cap on them", they truly are a body cap you can take pictures with, and I'm very interested in getting one in the future :D
Keep up the amazing work!
I would immediately sharpie the word "NEW" 🤣 why does it say that?!
Love your videos, they are fun to watch:-?
Hey! Wait a minute Robin! During your recent live broadcasts, you said, if the lens is manual focus, it's a deal-breaker for you. Now you bought a manual focus $14 lens!! Huh??
Alright. We'll give you some slack this time. 😂 Manual focus isn't that bad when you get use to it especially with static landscapes. And your photos are great, as usual, so we'll let you off the hook. 😆 lol
With this lens, I don't even need to manual focus. Just set to infinity and all set. So no deal breaker.
@@robinwong I was going to ask if the manual focusing slowed you down in any way, but now I have my answer. Thanks for yet another nice, helpful video!
This is an interesting lens, however there's a 17mm that's a much better value. You can still buy Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 17mm f2.8 4/3 brand new for about $180, or an excellent condition used lens for less than $100. It's an under rated lens that's very compact, decently sharp, and you'll still have auto focus and full aperture control.
I bought this lens a few months ago the week after it became available at B&H. I can't underline Robin's comments about flaring enough. It flares at the slightest opportunity. Forget using it if the sun in the frame, or at night when streetlamps or car headlights are visible. I also suspect flaring is responsible for a lack of contrast even in "normal" shots lacking any obvious strong highlights. It also irked me that the lens itself doesn't come with a lens cap. Attaching this to a small body (like one of the Olympus Pens) will not give you a pocketable camera -- unless your pocket is guaranteed to be dust-, lint- and grit-proof. Forget buying a 3rd-party lens cap because there are no filter threads for one to latch onto. And lack of filter threads means you can't conveniently attach ND or other filters.
Well, it is supposed to be a body cap by itself, without having another cap.
Isn't it cheap and casual enough it just doesn't need a lens cap. The same reason a disposable camera lens doesn't have one.
@@AustinCurtis First, I don't consider $59 cheap. Second, for about twice the cost of the 7artisans in the used market you can get the almost as pocketable Panasonic 12-35 f3.5-5.6 kit lens that, set to 18mm f6.3, would blow the IQ pants off the 7artisans. And the Panasonic takes filters and has a lens cap. Third, even the two Olympus body cap lenses (9mm and 15mm) have built-in lens coverings. They truly are pocketable which, unfortunately, is about their only virtue.
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OK on the strength of this video I purchased one new from their UK web site. I think Robin has not conveyed the built quality fully here, it is a beautiful metal construction and feels like quality in your hand, forget compared to the plastic rubbish of olympus similar, it is a fine construction, lenses should not be viewed as anything else other than an extension of the relationship between you and your camera.
I just did the same. Didn't hurt that they have Black Friday discounts going on at the mo...
in my country the oly body cap lens is much cheaper
Your not wrong about the lever I find it to fiddly. Pity this one does not have a cover to protect the optic in your pocket(yes the camera fits in pocket with a body cap)
Thanks for the review. It's not for me. It gets into the realms where I will 'just' use my phone.
It is a lot more fun than using phone. Trust me on this.
I bought the Olympus body cap lens (9mm) used for fun and used it for some time on my PEN E-PL2 (when the image stabilization still worked...). And I was able to take some pretty good pictures with it. But it's more of a fun lens for me. You can use it, but there are better.
With the 7Artisans I am now surprised.
The price for the 7Artisans is 68,- €, the Olympus 9mm is about 82,- €. So the price difference here is not that big.
BTW: I think my Panasonic 14mm F2.5 is better. And cost me only 150,- €.
But no autofocus?
You don't really need that with such focal length and aperture. Just set it to hyperfocal and shoot everything (:
@@nefrace yeap, set to infinity and all good
I calculate that with an MFT camera, the 18mm focal length, and an aperture of 6.3, the hyperfocal distance is around 3.6 meters. So with the lens set at its infinity focus everything from 3.6 meters to infinity will be in focus and you will get an acceptably focused image starting from around 2.4 meters. Anything closer will require the use of the focus ring. I found using this lens that fine focusing adjustments are more easily done using a camera's punch-in (enlarged-image) focusing aid, rather than using focus peaking.
@@robinwong actually trying to get you to say "no autofocus, no go for Robin."
Thanks!
Thanks so much!