V for Vendetta: A Surreal Story in a Post-Covid World
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- In 2006, V for Vendetta portrayed a harrowing vision of the 2020's. What have we learned now that the film's future is our present?
0:00 Introduction
0:40 Pandemics, Politics, and Shakespeare
1:50 Stuck in the 2000's
2:20 Prescient and Cognitively Dissonant
3:40 A Complicated Hero
5:04 Conclusion
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V for Vendetta. Directed by James McTeigue, performances by Hugo Weaving and Natalie Portman, Silver Pictures, 2005.
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I reckon it's possible that some of the perspectives I present in this video could rustle some folks' feathers, depending upon their political disposition. However, I'm not necessarily attempting to make some sweeping statement in this video. It's really more of a reflective narrative than anything. You might say, in the words of Detective Finch from V for Vendetta, "It was just a feeling."
The price we pay freedom is eternal vigilance
Kinda left out the burning cities and toppling of statutes by Antifa and Black lives matters there?
@@brwils3378 Fax yo
@@brwils3378 yeah its kinda funny how THAT part went over his head, when more than 40 people died including children and teens, dozens of thousands of people got badly hurt and hundreds of millions if not billions of $ of damages were burned in ashes, as a fascist group took over cities and media covered them up as peaceful, with full on censorship on social media.
This film foreshadowed our future
Pure quality, showing us the GLOBAL New World Order technocratic fascism of the "elites"!
Time for humanity to wake up.
Horrifying inseriction how about it took us a week to count votes when it took the UK an hour
Even more close to the movie's ideas and scarily enough reality is that government would attempt to institute such control over the populace and the only ones to protest are on the right side of politics
@@timon6759Australia is our future bro buy a 3d printer and keep jstark legacy alive
Counting dead people voters isn’t easy, duh lol
Still one of my favourite films. Sounds like I was at a similar time of life to yourself when it came out, and its legacy is that it's the first film that really made me think about politics. I haven't watched it in ages but I'll see it tonight and reflect on your essay. Thank you again, as always.
I'd really love to hear what the experience of rewatching it is like for you. Leave another comment and let me know! Especially since (based on your spelling of favourite) I'm guessing you're from the U.K.
Regardless of the circumstances, history has a tendency to repeat itself due to how lazy and forgetful everyone (including I) has gotten.
people aren't forgetful they just...... well on a century scale.... everyone was born yesterday
“Horrifying insurrection” 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Yes, it was an insurrection
@@TheDisccity By definition, by happened on Jan 6th was an insurrection
Guy Fox was a hero and he did succeed in a parallel universe.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."? Or maybe the Dumas line of "The difference between treason and patriotism is only a matter of dates." Trump was foolish for not considering that matters could go this far (though it's equally likely that he just didn't care).
I will attempt to leave as much politics out of this discussion as possible, however, due to the rather...touchy, subject matter at hand, I will provide fair warning.
V for Vendetta is an interesting case study, at least in my view, of what happens if a repressed/fed up/overstressed population meets a government that is unwilling to change. Norsefire is very clearly against changing the status quo, as they rightly should be. But this presents an interesting case. The government in V for Vendetta is clearly a one-party system, and what little other opposition there is, is clearly a sham, such as what is happening in the Russian Federation with United Russia (the party of Putin), and the CCP with China. However, the question I would like to put forth is this. Do you believe that a V for Vendetta-esque situation is possible in a government or nation, where there are multiple parties? Western nations such as Germany, the UK, the US, and Canada, among others. Do you think this is yet another a warning against the dangers of there being a single-party state, or do you believe that this is also possible in a multi-party state?
Sorry if this is unclear, but I would enjoy this dialogue if possible. Thank you.
Thank you for your time.
Winston Edwards
Thanks for your thoughtful comment, Winston. In my mind, V for Vendetta and similar stories are fair warnings against mindlessly gravitating towards a single party, especially one that shamelessly demonizes its opposition. Relentless demonization engenders the fear that can be manipulated, controlled, and ultimately weaponized. In other words, exactly what happened at the United States Capitol. A healthy two-party system doesn't necessarily require commonality and agreement, but it should require civil discourse and respect---both of which are in sadly short supply these days
Winston, another issue with the Norsefire single-party state is that it is a 'religious' single party. Even though the Queen is technically the head of the church here this is not, in any meaningful sense, a religious state. Far from it, in fact. What worries me most about the state of the US (I'm retired US Navy but live in UK with my English wife) is how far the right has become religious zealots. The US is alone in the industrial world with our high level of religiousness. I'm all for individual religious liberty that does not harm or infringe on anyone else. But a theocracy is something to be seriously feared. Besides, whoever expected the Spanish Inquisition? ;-)
@@ThoughtWord especially in the United States where supporters of Donald Trump can be called inserectionalists for simply voting for him and if not that at the very least called racist, homophobic, or any other slur the opposition chooses. I. My opinion the US isn't a healthy two party system if it even is two party's think of it this way the dictatorship force and the petulent road block to be blamed for every short coming
What about a multi party state where all parties serve a common group?
As an American service member who has lived in the UK for 20 years (also married a local gal and live here permanently), V- has long been an important movie to me. I too see great parallels between the 5th of November and the 6th of Jan. These days, no one here is quite sure if they are condemning or celebrating Guy Fawkes with a bonfire. I wonder if in future generations the January insurrectionists will also be confused as to them being the bad guys or the good guys.
That's a really interesting insight and perspective. Thanks for sharing!
Lol it wasn’t an insurrection
@@weignerleigner3037 lmao seriously. I cannot believe we share a world with people calling that fed setup theatrical political show an insurrection.
@@doodmayne7535 it’s just weird cus there’s video of inside the Capitol and the people are literally just standing around and yet we still are pretending it was this bad thing.
Oh, so V for Vendetta had Covid too, huh?
Just watched today. Had to check how manny ppl were tripping out how similar it is post 2020 lol
Thoughtful and well crafted video. I'd like to share some of the Wikipedia passage on the difference between the 2006 film and the original 1980s comic. It touches on what could be considered a failure of nuance on the film's part, both with regards to the setting and V's charachter, when it adapted the comic.
"The film's story was adapted from Alan Moore and David Lloyd's graphic novel V for Vendetta; this was originally published between 1982 and 1985 in the British comic anthology Warrior...
There are several fundamental differences between the film and the original source material. Alan Moore's original story was created as a response to British Thatcherism in the early 1980s and was set as a conflict between a fascist state and anarchism, while the film's story has been changed by the Wachowskis to fit a modern US political context. Alan Moore, however, charged that, in doing so, the story has turned into an American-centric conflict between liberalism and neoconservatism, and abandons the original anarchist-fascist themes. Moore states that "[t]here wasn't a mention of anarchy as far as I could see. The fascism had been completely defanged. I mean, I think that any references to racial purity had been excised, whereas actually, fascists are quite big on racial purity."
Furthermore, in the original story, Moore attempted to maintain moral ambiguity, and not to portray the fascists as caricatures, but as realistic, rounded characters. The time limitations of a film meant that the story had to omit or streamline some of the characters, details, and plotlines from the original story. Chiefly, the original graphic novel has the fascists elected legally and kept in power through the general apathy of the public, whereas the film introduces the "St. Mary's virus", a biological weapon engineered and released by the Norsefire Party as a means of clandestinely gaining control over their own country.
Many of the characters from the graphic novel underwent significant changes for the film. V is characterised in the film as a romantic freedom fighter who shows concern over the loss of innocent life. However, in the graphic novel, he is portrayed as ruthless, willing to kill anyone who gets in his way..."
more than 100 times watched my number one movie 1. and it's all real. just watching as well.
Insurrection..? 😂🙄
Yes? And now your orange pathetic god is going to prison. Love me MAGA tears 🤣
No masters, no slaves!
Really amazing movie that we live in now.
This is 2021 now
a HS er thought v speech & action scenes was they remembered , but i remember the accusation of relations to terror-ist sympathy… so close to 9/11. but today i think of epidemics
Technofeudalism?
Hygienic fascism.
(3:13) BLM, WW1
the made the problem and sold the solution, thats a major parrallel
Mquachetta
Look at the arithmetic 2.5 million dead over a world population of 7.8 billion how sad those deaths are its nothing compared to starvation or all those endless wars
Brushkartt
This guys lucky the dislike button dont exist and bots likes still occur
How about the 2020 RIOTS, that $hit was scary . Looked like the apocalypse.
Lmao an insurrection.... get a grip.
It was
@@linusmlgtips2123 if it was, then it was a glorified protest that really doesn‘t deserve much attention as you make it out to be.
@@joshuas.986 Multiple dead at this "glorified protest" which has already made history books for what most reasonable people think are obvious reasons.
@@linusmlgtips2123 lol, ONE protestor shot by the incompetent and trigger happy Capitol Police, and three others from natural causes. Really my guy? Some insurrection that lasted literally less than 12 hours.
@@joshuas.986 Ah yes, multiple people just magically died "by natural causes" what is your source, info wars?
Ah yes...just "some insurrection"
Here is your answer. This film is, yes, wait for it, the most beautiful . . .LOVE STORY . . . . (since 1970). I wept for the first time in decades. She is absolutely beautiful (inside and out), her innocence so rare. His courage and strength is unmatched. Their love for each other gives us today this: LOVE and HOPE which totally 'destroys' the "(demonic) Fear" and hatred and death (Revelation 13) of today. After the barrage of bullets at the end, as he says, MY TURN. It is indeed OUR TURN. We are at WAR; this is not a garden party. You MEN out there FIGHT and NOW! Good news! WE WIN! John 3.3, 33-34.
I like this movie a lot, but Natalie Portman’s fake accent was just horrible and takes me out of the movie every time.
I think one of the things we've learned from Jan. 6th, is that stirring a populist uprising is not as hard as one might have thought. If a government keeps its people down long enough, a lying grifter who possesses a bit of charisma can convince them that 'he alone' can save them. The messenger is often as important as the message. 'V for Vendetta' troubled me when I first saw it, precisely because of the danger of the messenger. Sure, he was 'better' than those running the government - but, was he really?
You are ignorant and naive. Jan 6th was done by the deepstate themselves to frame trump and supporters. Total false flag event. The real patriots will save america and most of them are trump supporters yeah thats correct.
@@JD43232 Uh huh... Sure. You bet. Just keep telling yourself whatever story makes you feel good - facts, be damned. I believe the phrase for this is 'cognitive dissonance'.
@Curious World. Facts be damned huh? Trump was a liar huh? Tell me, why was the FBI there on the ground inciting violence on January 6th? Why was Antifa there as well doing the same thing?
What did trump ever lie about? And please, actually tell us his lies. Here I’ll help you out with a quick guide. Trump was wrong occasionally, sure. But being wrong is not the same as lying. Being wrong is telling a falsehood. Being a liar is telling a falsehood with ill intent.
@@rathofturkey Thank you!
@@JD43232 when ever you are asked to produce any legitimate evidence to substantiate your claims you come up short. If you get your opinions and information spoon fed to you by Hannity or Carlson on Fox the only support you will gain is from other morons who are in the same camp, anyone with an IQ higher than 90 probably won't have an appreciation for your perspective. It gives new meaning to the slightly modified old saying, Retards of a feather flock together. You guys flock to that fascist scrub, Trump like flies to shit. The other thing is Adam Sutlers party was a far right party called Norsefire that was supposed to be a fictional representation of the far right nazi scum that stormed the capital to reinstate the tyrant they believed should be running the country by force. V was against Sutler and he would have been against Trump because Trump is a far-right, bureaucratic, totalitarian oligarch.