Good, Bad and Ugly: The History of Polio Vaccines - Professor Gareth Williams

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  • The development of polio vaccines is more than a great medical success; this is a gripping story that provides a window into the evolution of medical research during the last century: www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and...
    Polio killed or crippled millions of people, but successful polio vaccines were developed during the mid-1950s which have spared millions from paralysis or death, pushing polio to the verge of extinction. The development of polio vaccines is more than a great medical success; this is a gripping story that provides a window into the evolution of medical research during the last century.
    The transcript and downloadable versions of the lecture are available from the Gresham College Website: www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and...
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  • @dawynn9362
    @dawynn9362 Před 3 lety +72

    Thank you for making the presentation available to the public. There’s a lot that we can learn from history.

  • @myYouTube1travel
    @myYouTube1travel Před 4 lety +107

    coronavirus brought me here.

    • @subwayroomba5468
      @subwayroomba5468 Před 4 lety +5

      I came here to see how the release of the vaccine went, my questions are still unanswered and I'm left with more fear.

    • @bandhsilvers1
      @bandhsilvers1 Před 3 lety +13

      @@subwayroomba5468 hospitals are empty world wide just remember what the government said about Iraq the oil war

    • @jarofcomics
      @jarofcomics Před 3 lety +1

      Brought me here too

  • @bandhsilvers1
    @bandhsilvers1 Před 3 lety +39

    My uncle was electro shocked years ago for having a fight I will never trust the uk government

  • @dilenaking4746
    @dilenaking4746 Před 4 lety +47

    He said, "No matter how many times you wash your hands, you're going to get it."

  • @annadorman5192
    @annadorman5192 Před 10 lety +24

    As someone with parents born in the fifties, it was always fascinating to me as a child to see older people and the telltale pocked scar on their upper arm from polio vaccine. Amazing that we neglect historically important sites once the urgency has gone.

    • @paulinesingleton9649
      @paulinesingleton9649 Před 8 lety +30

      +Anna Dorman That scar was not from polio vaccine. It was from small pox vaccination.

    • @annadorman5192
      @annadorman5192 Před 8 lety +1

      +Pauline Singleton Good to know!

    • @7colliemac
      @7colliemac Před 7 lety +2

      Pauline Singleton mine was from TB .. I'm 65 ..

    • @hellybelle5
      @hellybelle5 Před 5 lety +1

      @@paulinesingleton9649 I didn't know that, I thought there was only the TB vaccine that scarred your skin like that.

    • @trisfen9840
      @trisfen9840 Před 4 lety

      colliemac7 ok boomer

  • @perishablegoods1344
    @perishablegoods1344 Před 4 lety +20

    My youngest son had polio shortly before his 2nd birthday in 1994 - He was unable to walk for a couple of weeks but 6weeks after the morning he woke up saying "carry me - I no walk" he was running completely back to normal --- I wonder if he's at risk for post-polio syndrome when he's older?

    • @ferozeali2142
      @ferozeali2142 Před 4 lety +8

      yes he is. i have post polio syndrome i am 26 and its annoying. sorry.

    • @Maddie9185
      @Maddie9185 Před 3 lety +13

      In 1994? he didn’t get vaccinated for it like most kids do?

  • @seanwebb605
    @seanwebb605 Před 3 lety +17

    Later Cutter would be involved in HIV and Hepatitis C tainted blood products used to treat Hemophilia.

    • @heaven7360
      @heaven7360 Před 3 lety +1

      that's insane! I'll have to check this out.

  • @gabyroberts9601
    @gabyroberts9601 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for your info from victor NY

  • @pennym.542
    @pennym.542 Před 5 lety +48

    I'm 9:00 minutes in...Comparing the Vitamin C treatment of polio to those other "medieval treatments" seems unjust. Vitamin C is vitally important to our health and immune systems. There is so much research on the topic that a doctor should practically be sued for malpractice if they neglect to treat a patient with it.

    • @pennym.542
      @pennym.542 Před 5 lety +10

      also, ironically, the pic of the large room filled with iron lungs was staged for an ad for march of dimes. So I suppose could also be considered propaganda.

    • @laurawoods6604
      @laurawoods6604 Před 5 lety +1

      @@pennym.542 really?!? Good to know it was staged but is/was march of dimes? Thanks

    • @Worldsphuked
      @Worldsphuked Před 4 lety +1

      Penny M. Check your sources sources sources very carefully, broad minded, and always objectively from here out in ever single thing you believe to be unquestionable fact. To the point that the mere suggestion of the things you may find yourself calling into serious question will undoubtedly initially leave your mind glitching like “What in d H3LL

    • @lquatt90
      @lquatt90 Před 4 lety +4

      Its because MERCK will not make millions from VC so its not taught to doctors.
      We have plenty of docs do private non-funded studies that have had enormous success with V. C so its sad that it isn’t offered or recommended by anyone like the CDC.

    • @dorksalami
      @dorksalami Před 4 lety +9

      Vitamin C is an important adjunctive therapy to all illnesses (it has been proven with double blind placebo trials to be associated with shortening the length of hospital stay) but if it were to be given as the sole therapy for any major illness it would not prove effective. If I were to bring my child to the hospital with viral pneumonia and they only prescribed 'industrial doses' of vitamin C as described in this video was the treatment of choice then I would be incensed and would perhaps sue legal action for malpractice.

  • @BudFieldsPPTS
    @BudFieldsPPTS Před 10 lety +35

    Born in Eastern Kentucky in the mid 1950s, my little town had 3 survivors of Polio in a town of 4,500. None of the three had ever traveled outside the town, and no further cases were ever discovered. I remember getting the vaccine. Everyone got the vaccine. Everyone. Hysteria was a very strong undercurrent when it came to Scarlet Fever, Smallpox, and Polio. This was a superb presentation. Thank you for it.

    • @hellybelle5
      @hellybelle5 Před 5 lety +7

      I'm unclear how they got it, but nobody else did. I thought it was highly contageous.

    • @mchobbit2951
      @mchobbit2951 Před 5 lety +14

      Over 90% of polio cases are actually asymptomatic. That might be the explanation here. Most likely, more people had it and never knew, shed it through their fecal matter, and passed it on to the unlucky three. No more cases discovered because asymptomatic people didn't go to the doctor and nobody thought of taking samples from them.
      I also don't know about highly contagious. The paranoia of burning all of the patient's belongings and not allowing their families to visit sure made it seem ultra contagious. But it's spread through infected poop going in your mouth. Children under 5 were the main victims because they always put their fingers in their mouths but otherwise...infected food and pools. The mothers changing or wiping their already infected children pre symptoms usually didn't catch it because they didn't suck on their fingers.
      5% of doctors and 11% of nurses who treated polio patients contracted the disease during the 1934 epidemic. And in 1934, they probably didn't even wear gloves and masks to protect themselves.

    • @laurawoods6604
      @laurawoods6604 Před 5 lety +2

      @@mchobbit2951 where can I get the figures you mentioned in regards to the 1934 outbreak... I'd reeeeeaallly love to use them when the health visitor next asks us about vaccination. Thanks 🙂

    • @gretchenjohnson5563
      @gretchenjohnson5563 Před 5 lety +4

      @@laurawoods6604 Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk contains a very large chapter on Polio. The book is excellent, and includes graphs and references throughout.

    • @traceybaldwin6509
      @traceybaldwin6509 Před 4 lety +7

      I read that many of the ones permanently afflicted with “polio” had had an injection of some sorts in that particular limb which ended up paralyzed, and those afflicted with bulbar paralysis (iron lung) had undergone tonsillectomies in the weeks prior.

  • @edbruder9975
    @edbruder9975 Před 3 lety +20

    I'd call Salk and Sabin both gentlemen no matter what their behaviour was. They both gave up billions by not patenting their vaccines in order to make vaccines affordable.

  • @reynaramirez6899
    @reynaramirez6899 Před 3 lety +14

    I was interested in his lecture the whole time..thank you for the great lecture and insight of the history to the vaccine for polio 🙂

  • @livefreeallways
    @livefreeallways Před 3 lety +50

    13 Things You Didn't Know About Polio
    1. In the 1800's a popular wallpaper called Paris Green was infused with a potent pesticide. Some of the most toxic substances known to man: copper and arsenic or lead and arsenic.
    2. This pesticide worked by causing neurological damage in the bugs, causing organ failure.
    3. Polio consists of symptoms synonymous with neurological damage, causing organ failure.
    4. Heavy metal poisoning from lead, mercury and other similar heavy metals manifest lesions on neurological tissues, meaning the toxin destroys the nerve/communication pathways connecting the brain to the organs in the body.
    5. Polio victims present lesions on neurological tissue, that cause the organs to malfunction all around the body. (lungs, heart, nerves that control walking etc)
    6. Polio outbreaks hit throughout the summer, only during pesticide spraying times. (not the sunless and damp winter/spring seasons like other disease outbreaks)
    7. Polio had NO ability to spread from infected victims to the uninfected. Polio infected clusters of people in the exact same areas, suddenly and swiftly.
    8. Parents report finding their children paralyzed in and around apple orchards. One of the most heavily pesticide sprayed crops of the time (with lead arsenate or copper arsenate) were apple orchards.
    9. President Roosevelt became paralyzed over night while on his farm in the summer, which contained many crops, including apple orchards. He also swam the day prior in a bay that was heavily polluted by industrial agricultural run off.
    10. Dr. Ralph Scobey and Dr. Mortind Biskind testified in front of the U.S Congress in 1951 that the paralysis around the country known as polio was being caused by industrial poisons and that a virus theory was purposely fabricated by the chemical industry and the government to deflect litigation away from both parties.
    11. In 1956 the AMA (The American Medical Association) instructed each licensed medical doctor that they could no longer classify polio as polio, or their license to practice would be terminated. Any paralysis was now to be diagnosed as AFP (acute flaccid paralysis) MS, MD, Bell's Palsy, cerebral palsy, ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), Guillian-Barre etc etc. This was orchestrated purposely to make the public believe polio was eradicated by the polio vaccine campaign, but because the polio vaccine contained toxic ingredients directly linked to paralysis, polio cases (not identified as polio) were skyrocketing...but only in vaccinated areas.
    12. The first polio vaccine was worked on by Dr. Jonas Salk and human experiments using this vaccine were conducted purposely on orphans in government/church run institutions because they were vulnerable and didn't require any parental consent signatures, as they had no parents. The vaccine was "declared safe" by "medicine" (as they always are) and that vaccine gave 40,000 orphans polio, permanently paralyzed hundreds and killed at least 10 children. All injuries and deaths under-reported of course by the same authorities who orchestrated the atrocity. This was called The Cutter Incident.
    13. The next "improved" polio vaccine, given to hundreds of millions, carried both the SV 40 cancer virus as well as the AIDS virus. Every step of the way, medicine declaring they know for sure, that this time, they have everything straightened out. Same story then, same story now.

    • @themuse11
      @themuse11 Před 3 lety +8

      awesome list... but I've been trying to find out more about the Cutter incident - and ran across some info that it was much worse than you described.

    • @themuse11
      @themuse11 Před 3 lety +1

      /watch?v=I95jIwzgTzk

  • @michaelmuro4475
    @michaelmuro4475 Před 4 lety +25

    this guy is lowkey funny at times. enjoyed this lecture

    • @ohmygollywow
      @ohmygollywow Před 4 lety +1

      I laughed when he said Edward Jenner in drag. 😂

  • @saywhat4523
    @saywhat4523 Před 5 lety +2

    Interesting....

  • @ydocc3374
    @ydocc3374 Před 4 lety +21

    Read Survival of the Wisest, by Salk. Then ask yourself, Do I trust these types of people?

    • @mgd6087
      @mgd6087 Před 4 lety +3

      Our libraries and bookstores are closed. I am not ordering from Amazon during the pandemic!

  • @Maddie9185
    @Maddie9185 Před 3 lety +31

    Poor cats and poor Italians. Conspiracies, scapegoating and fear mongering has never left.

  • @seanwebb605
    @seanwebb605 Před 3 lety +1

    Very cool presentation.

  • @juliecramer7768
    @juliecramer7768 Před 4 lety +6

    How would you catch something through the sewage system?

    • @dilenaking4746
      @dilenaking4746 Před 4 lety +9

      Sewer lines and water lines run side by side.

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 Před 3 lety +4

      Pumped in water treated for human consumption and sewage treatment are relatively new practices. The virus is expelled by humans then remains in our local water systems.

  • @ELFCloudGamer
    @ELFCloudGamer Před 3 lety +15

    2020 and polio has still not been eradicated

  • @WinstonNewYork
    @WinstonNewYork Před 4 lety

    Not Princeton, Harvard.

  • @LuckySpinster.
    @LuckySpinster. Před 3 lety +8

    oh boy, brain washout, horrifying

  • @ReubenAStern
    @ReubenAStern Před 3 lety +5

    :'( poor cats... had they said dogs they would have shot up the whitehouse instead.

  • @countrymouse47
    @countrymouse47 Před 4 lety +32

    I will always remember standing in line in my elementary school for my vaccinations...ugh. Sad that it’s showing up again in parts of the world - same with small box. Nothing is ever truly eradicated, just controlled. I’m in favor (unpopularly) of requiring vaccinations for such things upon immigration, because we are seeing immigrants from many countries still suffering with these very deadly viruses/diseases.

    • @zissler1
      @zissler1 Před 4 lety +5

      Janis Whipple the problem is measles has a comeback. Some blame antivaxxers but there were many more not only not vaccinated for measles, but bringing it in illegally.

    • @roberthboyd6073
      @roberthboyd6073 Před 4 lety +2

      Janis Whipple I remember standing in line in school in Nashvillie Tennessee
      For my polio vaccine, small pox vaccination, we knew about tuberculosis. A lot of
      People were quarantined into tb hospitals 🏥 these years were back in the 50’s
      Iron lungs and crippled children in the 50’s was everywhere.

    • @patriciaikeda2608
      @patriciaikeda2608 Před 4 lety +2

      @@zissler1 It's happening with TB in the US. It's making a comeback.

    • @Maddie9185
      @Maddie9185 Před 3 lety +4

      I am I favor of anyone who can get vaccinated to get vaccinated. Immigrant or not.

  • @colwilpro
    @colwilpro Před 4 lety +5

    I thought all viruses were dead?

    • @TRK-xs8gk
      @TRK-xs8gk Před 3 lety +7

      Their neither alive or dead
      They are in a category of their own

  • @chickenandchips1263
    @chickenandchips1263 Před 3 lety +5

    Polio is scary :( I’m so glad I don’t have it!

  • @Maddie9185
    @Maddie9185 Před 3 lety

    O my god o my god. Horrible treatment

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 Před 8 lety +8

    11:30 70k killed for a dollar bounty...that wasnt real, but then they kept it up anyway ^^

    • @trisfen9840
      @trisfen9840 Před 4 lety

      Jai Cilento I Love That Guy ʕ•ᴥ•ʔߛ ̋ welllllll

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 Před 7 lety +2

    Thank goodness people being Vaccinated have come out feeling a high relieve

  • @sc-iu8jq
    @sc-iu8jq Před 4 lety +2

    Cats bite the dust 👊

    • @upi1i1
      @upi1i1 Před 4 lety +2

      *flashbacks to killer queen*

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 Před 3 lety +1

      Horrible film. Anyone who saw it experienced the worst possible memories.

  • @enockmuyambo9291
    @enockmuyambo9291 Před 8 lety +5

    vaccinetion of polio is more that great medical success...

    • @ImaSkeptic1
      @ImaSkeptic1 Před 7 lety +14

      If you look closely at the Iron Lung Ward in Rhode Island photo, none of those "iron lungs" are hooked up to electric outlets. None of them.

    • @ImaSkeptic1
      @ImaSkeptic1 Před 7 lety +8

      Professor Gareth Williams said the photo of all those people wearing "iron lungs" was from the Iron Lung Ward on Rhode Island in the early 1950's. (at the 13:30 minute mark on this video). But the photo took place in a gymnasium. The scene was staged for a film.
      czcams.com/video/n9bqfdFRzU4/video.html
      At first glance, this image shocks and saddens from the enormity of the problem of sick children in need of iron lungs. On closer examination, it is clear that the equipment that usually accompanied people using iron lungs, such as tracheotomy tubes and pumps and tank side tables, is not present (compare the picture to photographs in the section on the iron lung). This scene was staged for a film. It is not historically accurate as a respirator ward, but is an example of an established photographic technique (famously used, for example, by WPA photographers in the 1930s) of directing the viewer’s response by creating a shot that would not naturally occur.
      amhistory.si.edu/polio/historicalphotos/

    • @mchobbit2951
      @mchobbit2951 Před 5 lety +14

      "Poliovirus produces no, or only minor, symptoms in 95 percent of those infected. In about 5 percent of cases, a mild form results in flu-like symptoms of fever, stiff neck, nausea, and fatigue, or a slight, temporary paralysis. About 1 percent of those with polio symptoms experience a severe form called paralytic polio that has lasting effects. In the worst cases of paralytic polio, 2 to 5 percent of children and 10 to 20 percent of adults die."
      This is a pro vax site, but yet they give you this information. If I get an MMR as a woman, I have a 26% chance of arthritis that could last for years or for the rest of my life. So it's more likely to disable me than polio. Most people now don't know this. Are these diseases, even the "big ones" more dangerous than their vaccines? Especially when keeping in mind that when talking about the disease, we only talk about people who actually catch it.Yes, you can die from the disease. You can also die from the vaccine. And one might as well not while everyone who does vaccine DOES expose themselves to the possible side effects of the vaccine.
      "During a 1934 epidemic in Los Angeles, 5 percent of doctors and 11 percent of nurses who treated polio patients contracted the disease."
      So only 11% of the people who were wiping the butts of polio victims (probably without gloves) caught it. So how likely am I to catch it when I'm not exposing myself to hundreds of polio victims and touching their fetal matter every day? And I'm assuming here that those who caught it and never realised they had it because they had no symptoms aren't included.
      The whole polio think...there were other diseases wrecking as much havoc on society but they don't have a propaganda machine with staged photos and whatnot behind them. Does anybody still talk about the little children catching rheumatic fever and dying young because the heart has been injured?
      I hate to go there but the surviving adults hit by the worst kind of polio in the photo section, judging by the quotes, photos and evidence that they married, worked and such...they seem to be doing better than the vaccine injured. They were leaders in the civil rights movement while the vaccine injured have been silenced.

    • @tracyemilson752
      @tracyemilson752 Před 4 lety +1

      Mc Hobbit glad I I wasn’t one of the 5% if that number is true.... glad my kids weren’t either