Georgia's Stone Mountain: Why the World's Largest Shrine to White Supremacy Isn't About "Heritage"
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- 8 years after the Civil Rights Act was signed, the world's largest monument to White supremacy was completed.
Here's why Georgia's Stone Mountain still stands in the face of efforts to eradicate Confederate symbols across the nation
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When we went there we got stuck cause there was a storm passing through we were stuck up on the mountain inside for about an hour or 2
“Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it “ We are supposed to LEARN from the Past History, NOT ERASE it . Seems like many many many people didn’t learn that lesson! Sadly our country right now is History is repeating itself. Only in 2020 it’s much worse for so many reasons. 🤦🏼♀️ #walkaway #blexit
It's called a book, museum, or the internet.
Your feelings are the reason these monuments were erected. If you honestly think they should be up then argue with Atun-Shei b/c there is someone who is defeating this "learn from the past" mentality, you learn from the past to rectify/change the future.
It's a shrine to a hateful past, nazi sympathizers hold concentration camps as shrines but we keep them because the love overcomes the hate from that site. You continue to oppress Black people and they no longer have a reason to sympathize with the Confederacy, and rightly so seeing how even after the Civil War, they were still treated as second-class citizens. Confederacy committed treason and are traitors and we shouldn't be celebrating them with a monument. History is written by the victors, so why do the losers get a say at all?
They were given morality and that is the problem. We aren't repeating jack, racial injustice riots aren't repeating themself, racism is, white supremacy was never about hatred, it was about power and it seems they still have some seeing how they aren't demonized enough.
The statues and there locations teach a message alright, one of hatred for those who don’t look like you, worship like you, or perhaps talk like you. To teach the history of these statues move these statues amongst the Confederate dead, a lesson in how hatred and intolerance layed bare a significant part of this regions and countries youth. They are the monuments of monsters, and perpetuate hate and ignorance of history.
We don't have to celebrate the shameful parts of history in order to remember or learn from them.
removing a racist monument would be a good way to show we learned from the past by not allowing space and prestige to people who hated black people didn't see us as human and fought against this country
Also if people followed that line of thought critical race theory would be in schools
The mountain has lived eons before the carving and will live eons after it. This whole drama is a blink of an eye to the mountain. The mountain will stand tall for innumerable generations after everyone has forgotten what the monument even meant. The confederacy is dead and will not return. God bless the mountain itself.
As long as that carving is there, I will not go to that mountain.
@@trainfan998 I guess I can understand not paying the entrance fee, but there are plenty of places to walk on without seeing the carving. The carving itself may be a stamp of ugly history upon the granite surface, but the mountain is not the carving, and vice-versa.
yup. tgey should take the monument down then
@@trainfan998 By your (shitty) logic, you must assume people visiting Auzuwich is in favour of mass murdering Jews with gas Chambers? WW2 museums are for people longing for WW3?
Just dumb. Ever heard the expression "know thy enemy"?
How about "learning from history"? That's how you avoid repeating it, silly.
@Kamau Mshale
Let the monument remain as a reminder to you, your children and their children, that there are bad people in this world.
Let the monument remain as a reminder to the families of the soldiers who died for the Confederate Army.
Let the monument remain as a piece of American history, good or bad.
Let the monument remain as a reminder to YOU, that this isn't a perfect world and this world really doesn't give a ship about you or your feelings.
Let the monument remain as a reminder to YOU that you should try your best to make it a better world and not just try to destroy anything that might offend you.
The Confederacy is historical artwork. The Georgia Guidstones are more concerned with your future, what you gonna do about that?😕
Time to take down the MLK status..
@Steven all I can see is that the hatred propelled through media towards Donald Trump has been the excuse to keep pushing mindless racial tension based on the narrative that Trump is racist, because he asked Obama for his birth certificate, and that may be beneficial to the Democrat party to get the black votes. The election coming plus people feeling angsty and stressed because of the quarentine and coronavirus is what has also helped propel mob stupidity, riots and destruction. It doesn't even matter what statue it is, somebody wants to vandalize it. I predict the idiots' next monument to criticize is the statue of Liberty. Obviously she's a white supremacist, because she is white.
@Elizabeth Gray The two parties switched. This is why the KKK always endorses republican party candidates.
@@dev0luti0n there was no magical ‘switch’. The parties geographically relocated after the 60’s, because the Democrat party had to manipulate blacks legally through the welfare state in northern large cities. The KKK is largely based in the Deep South, and has always supported the dominant party in the region.
Maybe we'll just stand back and let the racists handle it...
Like they handled the Civil War.
ITS PART OF GEORGIAS PAST. Do you think the Plantation mansions should be burned down? IT DOESNT MEAN YOUR BUYING INTO THOSE BELIEFS TO VISIT AND SEE THAT STUFF. All those civil war Era historic stuff needs to be preserved. In this case they can't preserve it without damaging the mountain. Plus it's the people of Georgia's ancestors.
We’re not talking “Civil War era stuff”. The many statues in town centers and in front of courthouses were erected many decades after the Civil War, and decades after the reconstruction era payed for by the winners. Look at the statues and the monuments will have an attached tablet honoring the donors for these statues-The Daughters of the Confederacy. They, together with the Klu klux Klan were determined to show who the real “victors” would be in a message for those unfortunate enough to be the their victims. They are a blot on humankind and unworthy of a great nation. The statues belong in the cemeteries filled with Confederate dead-a fitting tribute to those who would still have citizens as slaves today.
Nope, it’s a straight up monument to people who fought to preserve slavery. I want to destroy this abomination
@@DrKennyWang agreed.
@@JG-mp5nb
Don't visit them.
Problem solved.
Yes! They should be burned.
Im a Native American, federally recognized tribe, have a white mans roll nunber asdigned to me. Can you please get that off our mountain? Thx, on behalf of us.
What a load of BS. It is also disputed that the relief was carved in the 20th century, and that Gustov Borglum took credit for this as well as mount Rushmore Mt Rushmore was called the 6 grandfathers by the Indians or VI Kings . mt rushmore was modified.
Gustov Borglum, a racist pig, started the Stone Mountain carving but didn't finish it.
It's about property rights. Who has the right to destroy what belongs to another? No one.
Ignorant comment.
How Ironic... apparently black people used to be property... and that U.S. destroyed Billion$ when it reallocated said property to a life of liberty. Seems like the rules can change.
I barely know about this thing, and am filing it away with "largest ball of string". The Union prevailed, and that was a terrific thing.
sounds like you barely know about History, too
@@danielapemcova345 Branson, Missouri.
@@danielapemcova345 Oh really? Then please enlighten us on your INFINITE knowledge of history since you know so much about it! ;)
this reasoning is why black people don't have a healthy relationship with this country.
10 years in prison now think twice
"Those that cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Let's remove the monuments and repeat the past. Absolutely Brilliant.🤔
Was just thinking that well done..
Why is your channel named That's IT VIDEOS but you have no videos?
@@secretamericayoutubechanne2961
Everything else was taken. 😐
@@thatsitvideos I'm gonna do a video on how the politics that divide us aren't worth the division. That they are hypocritical in themselves. I ll let you know when I post it maybe tomorrow.
Given your channel name you should post videos or a set list at least. You ll have to learn a film editing program, like Filmora Go or youtube video editing
@@secretamericayoutubechanne2961
Sounds like a good idea.
I'll post yours if it's honest.
I knew it was only a matter of time before they tried to come for Stone Mountain. How about you ask people in Gwinnett county and surrounding areas how they feel about it? Everyone around Stone Mountain has been to the laser show, walked up to the top of Stone Mountain, and had fun there. No one is screeching about a carving in the rock. If you really want to show what we’re about now, maybe carve something else under it. Don’t shit on history because it offends you.
yeah, it's no big deal that slavers are carved on a mountain of anything. So let's just create monuments of those that enslaved Europeans and honor them as royalty.
Please tell me that you actually read a history book. This has NOTHING to do with what you claim.
They are literally Confederate Generals who fought to maintain slavery. You're clearly reading the wrong books.
@Black Lesbian Poet Confederate President Jefferson Davis, Generals Robert E. Lee and Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson. However to say these men were suporters of white supremacy is a childish view of their roles in the war.
@@atlien1988
LOL, General Jefferson Davis? You just proved T Harringtons' comment. ROTFLMAO 😆😅😆😆
I honestly think the 2020 George Floyd blm riots drove most of this country insane . White supremacy is all of a sudden everywhere now I guess lol. So dumb
*FOUND THE RACIST!*
In Africa, do you see all of the beautiful monuments, statues, buildings and all of the other wonderful things that they built with their own two hands, me neither.
The pyramid’s: am I a joke to you? 😂
Stating that it’s simply a monument to white supremacy is a blatant misunderstanding of the Confederacy and southern culture. Just because southern pride and slavery were historically linked, doesn’t mean they’re the same thing. Most people flying Confederate flags aren’t saying they support racism.
Lincoln went to war to save the Union.
South went to war to save slavery...
And lost.
Just be thinkful your asses weren't kicked out of this Country for treason.
And I wonder why...
@@jayclink4826 1) seceding from the Union isn’t treason, it’s actually completely constitutional.
2) not sure what you mean by ‘your’ asses. I was born and raised in Connecticut for 19 years.
@Your Momma you’re using a generic Southern stereotype to try to insult me in replacement of an actual argument. Additionally, I’ve never drank moonshine in my life.
@@TheModernPioneer and you are still to this day, benefiting from the labor and sufferings of slavery.
And that is the history of America!
@@jayclink4826 if you’re inferring the idea of systematic racism, it is a false narrative and statistically doesn’t exist. How do you think I benefit from past slavery?
We have to honor our history or we
are doomed to repeat the mistakes.
Destruction of our monuments
accomplishes nothing
The Germans took all Nazi statues, flags and relics down. Books, classes museums teach history IN CONTEXT and how hate and discrimination are no longer tolerated. Conversations continue. They don't sweep injustice under the rug. That accomplished a lot. We can do the same.
They achieve a deepening rift between the factions.
So if we bring down all the monuments now ... We might repeat slavery and segregation because we forgot...🤣😂😭
@The man that had to do it to them the USA was founded on land already occupied with "indians", so, would you like to propose the American flag to be abolished, also the Classical style architecture buildings reminescent on the Greek culture, the language of English, the national anthem, written by white men, therefore supremacists, because you need to include some tribal native American drums in the national anthem, also, promoting the African culture in America is also wrong, because the natives were in USA for centuries and their culture was supposed to be untouched. Even the continent America is named after an European man. Jeez, there's a lot of work to do, all evidence of foreign culture must be removed.
@@Neufertful Oh stop pretending like you give a single fart about Native Americans and their stolen ancestral land.
Go pay bllomberg a visit
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“No monument is history. A monument is merely a political statement.” I agree with this but it does not negate people’s perceptions. Many believe that these memorials are representative of our country’s history for good or bad. People, including Trump, should not be bashed and accused of being racists because they do not support the (perceived) destruction of America’s history... personally I don’t have a huge attachment on monuments but I can see that some in our society see them as symbols of racism while others see them as symbols of American history. Men and women need to be considerate of those they might not agree with before they condemn.
Should German have Hitler statue for the symbol of history ?
@@alexgunawan98 that’s hardly a fair comparison. The entire world was pro-slavery until the 19th century, dating back tens of thousands of years. Supporting slavery in a time where slavery was a normalized institution doesn’t necessarily make you a genocidal ethno-Fascist. The Confederacy was obviously more in the wrong and justice was served when they lost, but it’s an avoidant argument to try and make the case that someone like Robert E. Lee had no moral substance or individual value as a historical figure.
@@alexgunawan98 Hitler and the Confederacy were 2 different groups with 2 different causes. Robert Lee would've killed Hitler faster than he would a Union soldier. Little stinger for you. Hitler was a socialist.
@@chiefbangahoe no he wasn’t. He was a nationalist. If he were a socialist, why did he kill other socialists?
@@TheModernPioneer both men were wrong in their actions, both men should not have statues. You swung and managed to get a foul home run.
The confederacy was formed by South Carolina
Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina because the were tired of government oppression. It was not until the end of the war when the abolishment of slavery was even a topic. How come it’s ok for the Democratic Party to erase the fact that they are the creators/founders of the KKK, but it’s not ok for the south to remember their dead relatives (many who were to poor to own boots, much less slaves; due to the corruption of the north)? Now you have the left, and their puppets the Main Stream media pushing a narrative, not became they care about the minority but because they lost control, so they are going to turn everyone against each other! Because there is nothing stronger than the US citizens united, they have to keep us fighting each other! Wake up, before it’s to late you need to spot the true threat and stop being a puppet!
The parties switched. Now the KKK, fascists and other white supremacists only support the trump administration.
Devolution the party’s did not “Switch” ! That’s a narrative pushed by the democrats. Every bull shit, racist thing they did is on them !
@@dev0luti0n That actually isn't true. The KKK has supported every Democratic Presidential nominee since 1868 except LBJ and Obama. The south also started going Republican in the late 1920's as more industry moved further south.
The confederacy actually was formed to preserve and spread the institution of slavery, and every state that issued letters of secession openly states this.
First time I hear about this
What about Georgia Guide stones?
More than you think @Charles X. It is elites new religion - the new age.
No. It is pure satanism for them @Charles X but a new age for us.
Monument? Ruined a perfectly good mountain is what they did.
true but carving an ugly hole inside it now would not make it any better
@@thomas.thomas it would get rid of the monument. The Black Hills could use the same treatment. Stop with it is what it is attitude.
@@garrickthomas8631 it would get rid of a record of the racist history america has
@@thomas.thomas we don't need a physical reminder of these actions. We have enough photos and records in our history books. They started and we must end it.
Some People want to be victims and will look for any way to be one.
Let's tell the truth of general Lee.
I wonder how much time the social justice folks waste talking about tearing down statues? All that time should go to trying to improve inner city schools, reducing gang violence and putting fathers back into homes.
whataboutism
📌The Stone Mountain monument is beautiful and will be America's history forever. We learn from history and the Stone Mountain monument is a grand educator.
I’m gonna dislike this because I was born in Atlanta, Georgia. I saw the incredible laser show and I think it’s awesome!!!!!!
Yup
And the war on Afghanistan looked like a firework, was it awesome too ?
Lame.
@@aoilpe that. Was pretty funny but the laser show actually depicts a negative image of the confederacy and as a mixed man I think it’s fucking stupid to cry from a piece of granite
Good untold history I love real facts of history and people get mad when is the truth that’s why I don’t understand thank God for Internet
Don’t touch Stone Mountain!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously. We'd be a much poorer country if we erased the history that we don't like.
What if it went boom like the GA Guidestone today?
It won't.✊🏻
I think it will be lol
@@Lasky202 actually it’s in the works piglet
@@fragilediamond3203 I doubt it, y'all are scared of water and heights.
I left my home in Georgia
I didn't even know about Stone Mountain till I went to Atlanta for a conference and took one of the tours there.
Knocking down monuments does not erase history, let it stand as a reminder we can do better.
But it's okay to go to Africa and deface monuments there?
@@5hadœwbånnedbyyou there is nothing wrong with stone mountain.
I grew up in Stone Mountain when Marta came my grandmother and granddad stayed I
I GREW UP RIGHT OFF OF ROCKBRIDGE ROAD ON THE GWINNET COUNTY SIDE OF STONE MOUNTAIN AND MOVED THERE IN 1976 AND WAS THERE FOR SHY OF 35 YRS. I LOVED THIS PARK AND THE SOUTHERN HERITAGE WHICH IS NOT HATRED AND THESE MOBS MAKE ME SICK, THEY ARE THE LOSERS IN LIFE AND NEED TO BE CRUSHED LIKE BUGS BEFORE THEY VOTE OR REPRODUCE MORE SCUM LIKE THEMSELVES.
Why are we glorifying traitors. There is a difference between remembering history and glorifying it.
this is a very talibanie video bloomberg. Take it down history destroyers.
The statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are honoring the founding fathers that are the reason we have the freedoms we have.
No the narrative is about anything more than to destroy the US. It is a Taliban type operation.
LEAVE it alone, if we forget our past we lose it.
Internet ?
people ignore that ALL NATIONS have resorted to slavery - at one point in their history
Thank you for teaching us.
Don't blame us if you can't produce melanin...
dont blame us if you resist arrest
@@jojob9648 boy stfu
Learn about the Confederacy look deep not just what you're told
I watched Atun-Shei, not really any more to know. If you have a problem with it, take it up with him.
@@garrickthomas8631 dig deeper than a CZcamsr. What is the plan when all the shit is taken away, and racism still exist? Honestly taking down the monument won't stop racism. It's only gonna start another war. This time it won't be North vs South. Let's be real, the Left doesn't have enough man power.
@@chiefbangahoe ok wow. No it won’t end racism but it’s a step in the right direction.
We don’t need another war, we need people to understand that there was a time and place for these types of people. That their views are old and unsupported, at least publicly. That the backwardness of their ideas isn’t a feeling, it’s a fact.
And let’s be honest, the left really does have the manpower. You may look at it as organized groups on the right and “patriots” but the left has an ideology that locally recruits hundreds if not thousands of people. The right is going to have a hard time getting rid of that dog we call white supremacist who will follow them (fact).
@Jan Brady why do you highlight black people and leftists as if they are two different things? You can be black and leftist...
@Jan Brady the confederacy isn’t “white history” if it also sought to keep black people as enslaved people. It’s black peoples history and white peoples history. Not to mention white people somewhat lost the right (socially) to talk about the confederacy when they started the lost cause theory. Not all white history is taken down. Vikings are legit the only culture I can think of that is primarily white.
If it offends you don't go see it!
Whoops! Now it has to be leveled ASAP! Why the delay?? Call the NAACP or SPCA? Somebody dropped the ball! 👉😳🤔
B L M. please take your message to your own community and teach your own people that all lives matter. (Chicago) most decent people already understand this concept. THE PROBLEM IS NOT COLOR SO QUIT PLAYING THE VICTIM
Okay, racist.
That’s our community America is 1!!! Only racist greedy tea party space master colonization slave master minds think like that!!! It’s time for equality for all !!!! And no one will stop US !!!!!! Shut down Fox News and OAN News positive news only!!!
You must be dense.
Exactly
@@314murdacapitall can't help someone who won't help themselves. Ain't that what they say?
Why are they vandalizing statues of abolitionists like Frederick Douglass and Hans Christian Heg tho? Hans Christian Heg gave his life to help free the slaves, and people tear down his statue. I feel like we should be focusing on making actual change in our society. Not wasting time destroying some mountain thing. There is no point in destroying it; they should probably just close it off to the public if they really want. ( I probably have some grammar mistakes)
They could probably remove the monument in exchange for putting the confederate emblem back on the state flag. That’s what the original deal was anyway- take it off the state flag in exChange for state protection or the Stone Mountain monument.
We’ll always remember that Confederates are traitors and white supremacists 🇺🇸
build new monuments if you want but stop trying to ease the past, even if you tear down the monuments and burn the books the events still happened learn from it not forget it
Tearing down racist monuments doesn't erase the past. It'll still be there in history books and museums.
What books are being burned, and for the record, Hitler burned Torahs because they were a prideful aspect of Judaism, which he was strongly opposed to. He tore down statues to replace the history of other countries, he only tore down the ones that highlighted Germany and its failures or war memorials from WW1. One of them never made it to Germany and is assumed to be turned into bullets for the German army, note, this statue was of Black and white soldiers from France defending against a German attack, he believed Europe was tainted by "Negro Blood". He thought he was going to win and unite Europe through the Third Reich, and make a new but terrible legacy. But go on about how leftists tearing down inherently racist monuments glorifying losers/traitors from history are similar to Nazis.
@@garrickthomas8631 its only your option that the statue stand for that to others they are heroes and legacy's and story's told ugly minded ppl like you are the kind that want to erase the past and are doomed to repeat it
Imagine being offended by a rock lol
Imagine wasting your time commenting. Lmfao
I seem to recall the taliban destroying monument they disliked.
Unlike the Taliban, there is a logical reason to destroy these racist statues, they stand to empower white supremacists and destroy the morale of Black people, I mean have you seen the videos on Harrison. Did you know Pulaski, Tennessee was the founding city of the KKK, and in GTA SA, one of the white cops who spouts racial remarks is called Pulaski, weird right, almost like Rockstar was sending a message. Or the fact you gain honor when you kill KKK members in RDR2 which seems like another message to be sent, and both are based on America (RDR2 had Mexico but you can't really go to it.)
@@garrickthomas8631 Video games are not exactly proof of how racism actually is. This video itself also has several historical inaccuracies and generalizations. For instance it claims that General Lee was a fan of slavery, despite his own letters from before the Civil War proving the exact opposite.
@@warrenrhinerson6373he wasn’t as passionate about slavery as the rest of his cohorts but he still enjoyed its benefits. I remember a quote from him saying “slavery was a necessary evil that black people had to go through in order to be civilized.” Not sure if it was completely that but something along the lines. He truly wanted slavery and asked to not be remembered. The nation hasn’t healed because of statues erected.
@@garrickthomas8631 That was actually a fairly common belief at the time, it was even held by former Vice President John Calhoun. I personally have never seen any record of Lee saying that. But remember, slavery was a very complex issue at the time. Keep in mind, at the time slavery was an economic issue, not a moral one for the vast majority of people. Even President Lincoln said in his inaugural address he had no intention of ending slavery in states that already had it, but just stop it from spreading to other states. After the war, General Lee wrote "
He was very much in favor of the union over the secession. He only joined the confederate army because his home state of Virginia joined the confederacy after Lincoln's inauguration(this is actually the reason why Lee never wore a General's rank insignia on his uniform and only used a Colonel's, as it was his US Army Rank). Lincoln himself even consider to lead the Union Army before Virginia seceded.
@@garrickthomas8631 It also is true that Lee not ask for the statues, however mostly statues were put up decades after he’d already died. For context Lee died in 1870, at least that is one part up until the 1890s to early 1920s. The nation already healed from the Civil War in fact if it already healed so much that in 1898 President William McKinley had already tapped a confederate general to leave the American army, and another Confederate General Nathan Forrest had offered his services to President Ulysses S Grant to hunt down the remaining KKK members. By the 1900s America already healed from the Civil War. The only reason why some people believe the country didn’t It’s because in 1877 president he’s pulled the US military out of former Confederate states and the Democrats regain full power and kept it until the 1980s. For reference average Southern congressional seats did not go from Democrat to Republican until 1994.
I love this beautiful monument! Took so much work to do, I appreciate art but these haters don't. We should be protecting our country not destroying it like democrats want.
I don't think there are Democrats anymore, they've morphed into something completely despicable
YOU ARE SO RIGHT A SELBY AND IF YOU LET THEM TEAR DOWN THESE MONUMENTS, WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY WILL REPLACE IT WITH????? IT WILL BE REPLACED WITH GARBAGE THAT WOULD MAKE THAT VETERAN GRANDFATHER OR FATHER OF YOURS ROLL OVER IN HIS GRAVE AND THAT IS A STONE COLD FACT.
1:38 well that looks like a cheerful bunch…
Then vote to take it down and replace it with something better.
George Floyd, ???????? Maybe? Criminal....
I recently heard it said that the South lost the war but won the peace. That is so true. They did that by rewriting history and convincing generations of Americans that the war was not really about slavery.
The British freed the slaves... read a real history book.
Lincoln was a Nationalist and never actually cared much about slavery; only the issues it caused.
*See the Lincoln/Douglas debates.
In fact Lincoln supported slave deportation back to Africa or creation of separate colonies in Mexico.
So if you believe all of the stories you've been told about "Honest Abe", look it up. Even the History Channel has a documentary that refutes much of what is taught in school to this day about these power monger leaders.
Lincoln's goal was to take control away from the states and vastly increase the power of the federal g'ment, which limits self-determination and freedom.
The federate states left the union well before the war. The Union started the war after Lincoln took office. Slaves were just used as a political tool to justify killing Americans and forcing them back under federal control. Not picking sides just pointing out both sides had problems and virtues. Blindly believing the war was solely about slavery is a rewrite of history.
@@toddwatkins5011 Yet the average person knows nothing about this... or how to change a car tire, for that matter.
The dumbness of the USA will bring it's downfall. All by design.
West Point has confederate uniforms.
They just took one from Shreveport stood over 100 years , on daughters of confederacy property . Absolutely insane they could remove monuments . Nothing racist about it just a solider with a gun :
Daughters of the confederacy is a white supremacy organization
Calling out the 3%? Yall really want this?
That's riiiiiiiiiiiiught. ......you ain't from round here..is ya boy?!?!?!?!
A monument doesn't affect me because I don't care, I only care about the future not a monument.
It's not there property
Some people are responsible enough to recognize and employ context.
A symbol is only as threatening as you make it, and that's on you.
People that are continually offended will never be satisfied.
If all people were complacent holding no offense to any action if this world there would be no change no new history to write.
@@Daynightexplorer not all offenses are logical offenses, the exact point of my comment.
That's why you see people freaking out over a word, and not bothering with the context of how it's used. Like the 'ban Bossy' campaign.
Or people being offended by clapping or a costume or someone making a tortilla.
Understanding context is more important than misplaced personal outrage.
WRONG!!! Lee didn't care about the confederacy he just wanted to protect his state you have to understand that at the time people more than likely identified by state before country he even wanted to join the union but by time he wanted to it was already coming to an end
What in the alabama...
I wasn’t sure to report this as “promoting terrorist” or false, misleading... why isn’t there an option for both?
Is teaching the public about the slept on history of racial inequality in America promoting terrorism? I guess in the eyes of a bigot empathy is too far of “radically left” agenda. To truly prove me wrong, do more than one poorly worded google search to educate yourself on the deeply concerning history of the United States’ treatment of minorities.
Honestly with seeing how BOTH sides cant come together to see what to do. I'll just go down to Arabia mountain and watch you guys fight over something that won't be here a million years from now
We need a bill with a wide net that can stand the test of time. With this bill we can destroy this hate monument.
It isn’t a hate monument.
Tear down the Confederate statues, keep the Abraham Lincoln's
Tear him down too, legally.
These Antifa morons burned an elk statue, pioneer statue, George Washington statue in Portland its not about what the statue represents anymore its purely just to destroy something.
No one cared before
Take it down. Take it down. Take it down.
Pants on the ground,pants on the ground. 🎼
Not gonna happen
No. No. No.
Yall need to leard about real history
Like the genocide of native Americans, the Wilmington Insurrection of 1898, and the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921? Yes they do. Smash white supremacy, smash confederacy, and defy traitors like Trump.
Ok it not real history be cause he said yo mama .but it IS and will be your history you cant change that
Tear that hate monument down right tf now😡🤬
Not gonna happen 😎
I agree with the lady who said, okay, you want to keep your monuents? Then teach a full accounting of our history in school. Long time coming for that to happen. We really need it. Stop sweeping the facts under the rug. LET'S KEEP OUR VOTE ALIVE & STRONG. Be careful what you wish for in the future .....
This doesn’t mean that they are celebrating slavery. They are celebrating the history. We keep it today to remind us of our past and the mistakes we made. This is how we learn for the future.
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Yeah, erecting monuments of Generals that fought to uphold slavery is about reminding us of our past mistakes. It definitely doesn't celebrate slavery.
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But it's not to be denied, the carvings on Mt. Rushmore thumb their nose at the Souix Nation!
Don’t like Stone Mountain?
Don’t go there.
absolutely useless point
Don’t like America leave
Exactly
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Nope.
It's pretty simple.
If you don't like it, don't go.
I don't go to a masque to pray, I go to a Christian church........ because I'm a Christian.
I don't like extreme heat...,. so I don't go to the desert.
See?
Let’s forget our history and past and erase all of our memorials of mistakes SO WE CAN REPEAT THEM.
There’s no erasing that Confederates are traitors and white supremacists 🇺🇸
So, why is it that every time I have been to Stone Mountain Park, the majority of those using and enjoying the park tends to be african american family reunions? You use it for free or cheap gathering place without complaint but also out the other side of your mouth curse it. In fairness rename every road, school and other institution that is named after MLK or Malcom X to a neutral name. I personally have no problem with ridding every monument to every mortal man of every color ever made, they are all idols anyway, what I have a problem with is the hypocrisy.
Like what neutral name?
I live near there and go all the time - and you are exactly CORRECT!!! something can even be free and they STILL COMPLAIN on some level.
😂 hell they will cry cause the clouds in the sky are white next.They will want them removed.
Many of them don't even know the history behind Stone Mountain of the people that's carved on it. That's how hard the Daughters of the Confederacy have fought to retell history and change the narrative about the truth of the Confederacy.
There's your answer.
but it isnt about white supremacy it is about heritage and history
We’ll always remember that Confederates are traitors and white supremacists 🇺🇸
“ Those who fail to learn from their past, are destined to repeat it.” Monuments from the past teach lessons of the past if understood, in their proper context. Some we celebrate and some we don’t, only ignorant uneducated people see confederate monuments as icons of the present and not lessons from the past.
I love you even if monuments glorify the past and these statues glorify the terrorizing of African American people, which has been present before and after America became a country, along with the 244 years we have been a country, and the reason no one will put them in a museum is that it cost too much and its cheaper to just get rid of them and the sentiment towards white supremacy is so obviously for rather than against is heartbreaking, to say the least, inclusivity isn't the best for people with that idea. Atun-Shei argues well about how this isn't a past Americans want to glorify :D
Ooohhh a history people don’t talk about!!! I think I’ll pass this along to my groups!!! Hmmm 🧐
Let's burn the money
Can we not look at a work of art in a landscape without going into diatribes about past wrongs?
Besides, Lee was ambivalent about the black slavery issue. His mistake - in hindsight - was not to take up Lincoln's offer of command of the union army. His loyalty to the state over rode that of the Union
Well then, shall we take down the pyramids?? 🙄
I’m pretty sure that the they didn’t inslave only on race
Been there, climbed it to the top and no racist anything, blacks, whites even some asians there everyone was very friendly and they were honest about their history.
IDC what anyone says, It's a beautiful place and what a view the land is very unique around it!
Yes it has a bad mural by some peoples views (I don't think there "good guys" at all by the way) but Stone Mountain is history, if your willing to deface it you might as well tear down mount Rushmore.
It's sad, ATL is racist AF yea it is but the people of Georgia they are also very humble and kind. IMO It's generations of abuse in both directions and a lot of people are just done with it it's so built into the culture their kinda stuck in it but I see that changing over the years, people are seeing we are all oppressed not just Native, black or white this monument is not hurting anyone anymore, it's just hurting YOUR personnel feelings and that's fine, that's your problem.
Hope it stands forever and it's true history is taught well...
It could be a beacon of change for all people instead of racism.
Love you Georgia, your still my favorite state! ✌
This isnt a reminder of our history. This is white men in ties that somebody thought they were so great they carved them in stone. But this is no reminder of what really happened to us native Americans or the african slaves. This is just what some white man seen as great men. If it were to remind us of history it might show some of us Cherokee on the trail of tears or african slaves working in cotton fields. That being said this MONUMENT to whits men in ties doesnt effect my life at all so i dont care. But just want to be real that this does not depict our history
This is such a joke of a production. If you don’t like Stone Mountain, then don’t visit it. But it’ll be around much longer than these fools.
"...this is the equivalent to having Hitler's statue in a Jewish community..." very powerful opinion changing concept...
I didn't know that mountain was in a black community. Oh that's right, it's not.
@@biggootz 73% of the the city of Stone Mountain is black.. if you don't like black people, just say that
@@biggootz it’s several minutes away from Atlanta, a city whose population is 49.8% black. But even if it were away from black people, does that make it okay?
@@garrickthomas8631 1000 years from now blacks will still be playing the race card. NOTHING is going to change history. Tell me what has changed in the cities where any references of any kind to the Civil War have been removed. Please tell me. Tell me what will change if Stone Mountain is destroyed. I have been there. Did I go to see it because of the subject matter? No, I went to see it because it is the largest base-relief artwork in the world. In the world we live in today, Middle Eastern factions are the only other group of people who destroy anything they do not agree with. Nazis burned books they did not agree with. I would hope America was better than those two groups, but I am being proven wrong. America has become no better than them. Have you ever asked yourself who the rabble rousers are that push for such destruction so they can get re-elected to political positions?
powerful? Or blasphemy
Go Jonny reb
I’m only against tearing it down if it does further damage to the environment.
It’s a mountain. It is the environment.
@@TheModernPioneer On the other hand , we don’t need symbols of White Supremacy on display for future generations.
@@KB-sv7fm it isn’t a symbol of white supremacy. The purpose of Stone Mountain is not to convey racism.
@@TheModernPioneer Pull your head out of your a$$ and study the history of the men etched into that mountain. Study the life of the sculpture. Look at the title of the video.
@@KB-sv7fm I’m very well read on American history and it’s actually one of my biggest interests. For example, did you know that Robert E. Lee actually opposed secession, and was offered a position in the Union army before the start of the civil war? Or that he only joined the Confederacy due to his allegiance to the state of Virginia?
Then lets tear down all of the pyramids because of the terrible things that happened in them
civil war had a lot more to it then just race.
Excuse me . Esau Dan Joseph and Ishmael statue's stand . Great Britain and Africa. While Isaac's statue's torn down . Exactly what new world order Confederacy plotting against Isaac
On the black pyramid. Am u can't get near it
They didnt fight over slavery!
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the primary goal of the Confederacy, as evidenced by their own articles of secession, state constitutions, and other legal documents, was the preservation of the institution of slavery.
USA should vote to kick out Georgia and Washington State. Give Georgia back to the Native-American Indians and apologize.
All Black people need to pay a $ 10,000 fine to the Native-American Indians.
It would literally cost thousands to get it down sorry but feelings are not as important that money could be better spent
Who did the Cravings we need blockchain
WHAT¿?!
The cravings?
Borglum, the artist involved in Mt Rushmore, was definitely involved in Klan activities. I don’t believe they could prove that he was an official member, but it’s no secret that he was close to its leadership.
He was also involved in the creation of the Stone Mountain sculpture which of course includes the likes of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, and Stonewall Jackson.
Now, is the message of this video clear, concise, and without propaganda? Arguably, no. However, what is clear is the social strife and painful reminder that sculptures like this brings literally to the surface.
It is not to accuse or diminish the people that worked hard, just doing an honest job, to bringing said monuments to fruition. I do not believe these intentions are meant to erase history - this would be a mistake. These demonstrations and the message to its core is to bring awareness to an issue that is very real in this country.
Sticks and stones may break bones, but your words in this era may end up doing far worse. Listen & Learn. Communicate & Compromise. Let empathy & understanding ring true.
This is a great country and we should never be afraid to fight with one another over important issues as we are intended to do so. However, we should not be afraid to evaluate what we think we know in order to evolve - together. Cheers
It's amazing how little black people know about themselves!
The only problem that I have is how much would it cost to change it? Do we really need to dump millions of taxpayer dollars to change something that's just ugly but harmless?
Trump said it's illegal. Stop it
If trump told you to jump off a cliff would you?
Did anyone mention how it’s a 90% black city today… It was great growing up in Stone Mountain #SHS09