Vintage VS Modern Lens Comparison - Canon FD Lenses
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
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Quick-ish little video on the differences between Canon FD lenses and more modern lenses focusing on flaws that actually make them desirable for a lot of different work, especially budget video production!
Hope you got something from this video and if you have any ideas of things that you want to see in a video, leave a comment below and let me know!
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My vintage Canon 50mm f/1.4 SSC has the same nervous/jittery bokeh. Love working with it. I’ve done portraits and some macro work with it.
Future video idea, your 5 best investments you have made in your film making career so far.
Great comparison and the FD's are great. Shame the price on everything vintage has skyrocketed since Mathieu Stern made them more popular over the past few years. Although its still far cheaper to get a set of vintage glass than the cheapest cine lenses.
Great idea! It's on the list. Yeah FD's are a really great budget option. Once you declick the iris and pop gears on them they're even better. Oh Mathiew Stern!! ❤
One of the more helpful comparisons I've found. Thank you!
Great video! I use a lot of vintage lenses and some of them are crazy sharp in fact. One that i have in particular , the vivitar 28mm f2 from komine is one of the sharpest lenses i ever had. It flares a lot tho but the flares that it produce is pretty pleasing .
That's crazy! I love vintage lenses. They're such a mixed bag. Thanks for watching and commenting..
Great video and clean explanation Felicia, thanks!
Brilliant video. Looking forward to the behind the scene music video post!
A lovely video & a great topic because I’m starting to use old Nikon 50mm & 28mm on Panasonic Gh5 for Instagram pictures, I found your video very helpful and your accent isn’t horrible keep up the good work don’t change thing.👍🏼
Well, you surely are better than me without script! I gotta say, I tried a friend's FDs and kinda felt in love with them, so I ended up trying to build a set of my own. Which is taking longer than one might think, 'cause apparently they are not that common around here in Italy. I guess we can say that those borrowed lenses were my gateway drug in the vintage world and led me to buy different and interesting pieces of gear and learn and experiment more.
Hay Felicia I love shooting with vintage lenses, I have a set of m42 lenses for my Blackmagic 4k, they're soft and flare like crazy, but not the best choice for every shoot... Just a question do you use filters like pro mists or do you net your lenses?
Vintage lenses are amazing but yes, not good for every situation. I have never netted my lenses but I do use filters quite often. Depends on what I'm shooting :)
I love FD lenses, I started on them and a Canon AE-1 Program before I could afford a digital camera, and then went for mirrorless so I could adapt the glass I already owned.
My main photography camera is an AE1-P and I use the same FD lenses on my BMPCC 4K (adapted with a speedbooster) they are awesome for 4K digital video capture ! (since 4K is only 8.3mp the slight softness is great)
I love the skin tones in vintage lenses
Q Hi, firstly, thanx for your amazing videos. Sec, do you maybe know any vintage lens witch match well with Helios 58mm f/2.0?
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Ooooo good question but unfortunately I've never really had the chance to shoot with a Helios before. What I would recommend when trying to match lenses is looking at any potential colour shift between different lenses which can happen, and also at the shape of the bokeh. From what I am aware, the bokeh on Helios lenses is quite unique and has an almost swirly look to it so that would be a definite thing to look at matching.
Why does your 135 look different than mine? Mine doesn't have the green line, and is 52mm wide, while also providing f/2.8. Is yours older? Or newer?
Great video Felicia! I love my Canon FD lenses and only wish I had the opportunity to use them more. However, I'm also baffled by the exposure difference between the Fuji lens. I actually have the exact camera and lens combo, so I did some tests and found the same thing! I was of the understanding I was losing a stop of light with my FD adapter, so I'm not sure why it appears brighter than a native f2.8 lens.
Thanks! Yeah very odd huh! Glad to see it's not just me experiencing it! Another subscriber thinks it could be something to do with the lens coating which could definitely be it.
More elements in the fuji zoom, so even though the aperture is the same, the T-stop rating is completely different.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes that was my initial thought
@@PiDsPagePrototypes That's a very good point, and I totally agree that has something to do with it. But if I'm losing a stop of light through my FD adapter, those T-stops must be totally different! Potentially lens coating could be the other part of the equation then.
@@MattQuattro - Lens coating makes a massive difference - Felicia knows how much I love my Pentax glass,.. up until the Sony Micro Coating launched reasonably recently, the Pentax 'Super Multi Coating' had the highest transmission rating, basically since the '70's, and it really shows when swapping between similar rated lenses, both in brightness and in contrast.
The FD's, back in the '70's and '80's, Canon was not rated anywhere near as high as the Nikon, Pentax, or even Yashica glass.
Thing is, if you've got a consistent set of matched primes, and the images make you feel good when you see them, then they're good lenses for that use :)
What adapter are you useing with the xt3?
Your accent isn’t horrible. You have a great channel. Keep it up.
The nFD 50mm f/1.8 is the *only* nFD lens in Canons line-up to *not* have the S.uper S.pectra C.oating, so it makes sense that it is noticably a bit soft on when viewed through digital sensors.
OT, but: Australian accent, FD lenses, an AE-1, you earned my subscription.
well, i found that canon fd got less contrast, especially in the shadows..there is definitely more light coming in darker areas. on the reasons i love them..its like you have this extra dynamic range when u expose for your highlights especially for shooting videos. i found that fuji color profiles do add a lot of contrast, something i notice when seeing the images coming from a dslr n fuji itself..
Looking forward to BTS and info on that music video. Also, I'd love a video on pro mist and similar - when you like to use them and when to avoid. About the "lighter" image from the FD lens, could that simply be "less contrast" due to the older coatings (aka light bouncing round inside the lens causing the dark areas to be filled in/lifted a bit)? Seems like a stronger effect than I would expect from a not-actually-vintage lens so I'd guess its something else.
Ahhh that's a great video idea. I'll have to head to The Vision House again and film that.
True about the coating. 👌 could be!
Thanks for the video. If I were shooting a wedding video, I would probably go with the Canon lens over the Fuji lens.
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Well above 2k and +1! Thank you for sharing your wealth.
Love the video, f stops come from a math equation that relates the Aperture size to the focal length unlike t stops that measure light. The same f stop will not have the same light transmission even in the same lens manufacturer!
Nice video! We love Canon FD lenses :)
No way, it's Fotodiox! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 😊👋
What I like about vintage glass is the tend to be lower contrast, which I always felt gives you slightly more flexibility when grading. I think modern optics tend to push for sterile and overly sharp images, generally speaking. But ultimately that is an opinion, choose the lens which works for you. Cheers!
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I rarely shoot leaves and flowers so it's really hard to tell the points your making. Thanks for your effort though.
Fisrt of all, i am not an expert, i'm just an enthusiast. I think you should had made a test in a more controlled environment to measure the deep of field, because for some reason, it looks like the old canon FD has a much narrower deep of field. So i think that part of the ghosting, most of all in the flower's picture, is becouse of that. The narrower deep of field is also noticeable in the glases of the guy, in the canon fd the bridge in the glases is sharp but the logo is blurry, an that doesn't happens in the new fuji. But again, i think that is only measurable in a more controlled environment because there is also a difference in the distance to the subject, and that changes all the parameters. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching and commenting. Definitely agree I could have done controlled testing but for this video I wanted to focus on what vintage lenses do for you image in natural situations 😊
The narrow depth of field on the FD lenses is actually the imperfection in the glass manufacturing. It plays with focus slightly, blurring the image a little more than a very new very sharp lens. Thanks again! Appreciate you taking the time to comment!
I think you're doing pretty alright - no worries :)
That doesn't entirely look like Chromatic Aberration, but a reflection(*) of the different focal planes for the technology of each era.
Modern lenses are designed to focus Red, Green, and Blue, on a single plane digital sensor.
Film Era lenses were designed to focus Red on the red layer, Green on the green layer, and Blue on the blue layer, of the film substrates - much like how the Sigma Foveon sensor has layers for each colour.
The shot later in the video, where you mention the different colours in the Bokeh, is also indicative of the differences.
To compare would require taking a shot on 135 in the Canon body, then feeding it in to a drum scanner, and comparing the resultant digital files, all while hoping there was no curvature on the film slide,... :)
IMHO, many of the issues ranted about with the BMD cameras on their user forum - the infamous Purple Fringing - are also related to the difference in using film lenses on digital sensors.
A Focal Reducer can adjust the colour alignment closer to a single plane.
* - sorry, couldn't resist the pun ;)
I was under the impression that that is pretty much what chromatic aberration is though? The lack of focus of all colours through different glass elements to the same focal plane? Which is obviously going to be more of an issue with lenses designed for film due to design.
When it occurs on the film body the lens is designed for, then it's aberration,... and then it becomes much worse and very nasty on digital sensors.
Getting the FFD wrong on an adapter can also introduce this type of error, even though the lens may not show it on other adapters.
The Canon FDn 50mm 1.4 are much better than the 1.8, I have both.