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Rachmaninoff is EASY?! 🤨 | Garrick Ohlsson
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2023
- Garrick Ohlsson talks about an "easy" passage in a cadenza from Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 3 in D Minor, Op. 30.
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I’m probably alone on this but Bach is way scarier to play in public than Rachmaninoff
*gets thrown a tomato on stage for using excessive rubato as a way to hide technical inefficiencies*
@@gil-evens LOL 😂
Agree. That and Schubert also. Nightmare. (beautiful, don't get me wrong)
@@gil-evens and how dare you touch that pedal?
@@darthjonez9197 😂
It would have been interesting for him to show what he considers difficult in playing Rachmaninoff. I mean to me, it's all very difficult.
Probably that one part in the third movement 💀
@@benharmonics Oh god not that part 🫠🫠🫠🫠
@@benharmonics funny how I think I know what you're talking about even though you just said "that part"
@@benharmonics of the second concerto or third?
@@MiloMcCarthyMusic Third
“Rachmaninoff is almost never easy”
*plays it flawlessly*
That was far from being flawless and it wasn't even THAT fast. But i take that, that was just a quick demo not a proper performance of it, so i assume a performance would sound much better.
@mariapap8962 He's a winner of chopin competition(you might already know it)
@@user-es9ui3cc3x that doesn't necessarily mean he's perfect all the time. Not knocking on his ability, he just clearly didn't have the need to avoid wrong notes in this short demo.
I tried learning a section of the 2nd piano concerto just for fun and honestly one of the hardest things for me was memorising the left hand arpeggiated accompaniments that are always embellished with little chromaticisms and so on. You just never have a moment to breathe, eternal inner voicings to deal with
And that’s just learning the notes, now you have to manage to make it sound musical
Rachmaninoff’s music is mind-blowingly complex
Rachmaninoff's music is the only music I've had serious trouble memorizing so far. I think it's because I don't fully understand it, which in turn is why I like it so much! 😅
@@JSB2500 playing it slowly when first sight reading as well, makes it sound so weird and u assume ur going wrong but then when it’s up to pace my god 😍😍😍 genius of a man
The 2nd concerto is much more annoyingly awkward to play than most of the 3rd imo. The 3rd is just relentless though with the sheer number of notes, but once you can play it falls under the fingers quite nicely.
Some of the slow Mendelssohn stuff will give you bigger headaches than a fast Liszt candenza. "Songs without Words" really caught me off guard
Yes the first one is the best case
It all comes down to how high your standard is. Regular pianists’ standard for Liszt is quite low than for other composers.
@@ravell193992why so? Is liszt disrespected by pianist?
@@unidentifieduser5346people find it “unmusical “ or just a technical show off so they just play it like a robot to get people to gasp. but i believe it’s more than that. They don’t truly study the music rather just play it for enjoyment. Look at Yunchan Lim playing Liszt etudes making them a lot more interesting and much more musical than a lot of higher level pianists just playing them just to play them. I actually believe liszt is harder to understand and play and perform, look at his B minor sonata. not a single performance i’ve seen is perfect , and that says something 😳. (yet they’re all amazing performances) it’s all preference tho. my bad for the rant
@@mrm0n3yb4gs5I wholeheartedly agree. Liszt is always written-off as just a showoff composer, like the paganini on the piano, but liszt requires a lot musicality than paganini and his works can really be very beautiful when you dig deep enough. The difficulty in his pieces usually always makes the piece sound better, rather to just make it for the sake of making it hard. (except paganini-liszt etudes, they are honestly just showoff imo)
I dont listen to classical but Rachmaninoff sounds like madness. I Love it
sometimes madness, sometimes tension, but it’s a mix of EVERYTHING. he loves long build ups until it finally blows over and BAM the climax. everything clicks.
You should listen to his second piano concerto, might change your life
Scriabin is your next step
That’s why Rachmaninoff is so awesome because just about everything he writes is very ergonomic
Uhhhhhhh NO
especially if you have gorilla hands lol
"Dog Paddling"...LOL. You crack me up. Your are the most amusing world class pianist I "know".
Garrick Ohlsson is great I'm loving seeing more of him on the channel, hes probably my favorite pianist of all time
Yunchan…
Maestro! U r great pianist !
Always admired his piano music!!!
As a mandolin player , i was humbled by Italian tarantellas. They are not very complicated, but the make them sound "right" and tight, is another matter.
As a bassist who usually plays jazz/progressive music one of the most humbling pieces i eber tried to learn was "Barbarism Begins at Home" by The Smiths. It's just one riff for the entire song, but it's a demanding riff that never lets up and is repeated endlessly for the entire ≈7 minute track with no breaks. It is an intense test of physhcal stamina and precision, and then you realize that during some live performances Andy Rourke and Jonny Marr would just ride that riff for upwards of fifteen minutes. RIP Andy, you absolute machine.
Rach3 Ossia Cadenza 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Even slow, this is a genuine marvel 🤩
One of my piano idols.
Rachmaninoff imo is not super technically crazy but musically he can be a pain to pull off even though his Melodie’s really speak for themselves. Even just his Moments and Preludes which are his “easier” works are highly advanced and not many pianists even the greats can play them all to a largely satisfactory degree. Usually I’ve found certain pianists will play specific pieces of Rach quite amazingly but flop on other ones
I used to go to his ouve concerts w Pittsburgh at Ambker campus, he s mesmerizing!
Prelude op 23-4 in D major /middle section when the melody is in the middle voices. It sounds extremely easy but it tremendously difficult to play: crossed rythms + akward delicateness.
This prelude is out of this world, one of Rachmaninoff's best pieces and also one of the most difficult.
Brilliant pianist that deserves to be a household name.
Just found out about this guy, I do his backyard sometimes he’ll play a little while we work in the garden
I love Liebesleid arr. by Rach.. really get me in tears..
Same with the drums. Take any Keith Moon passage, and really all you have is a steady symbol and a steady tom below accented by a bass. There are frills laid on top, but the foundations are quite simple. It’s his sound that makes him a truly master drummer, that deep, rich, textured sound that separates the masters from the everyday.
When I tell my friends that a song’s not that hard, but it sounds that way, so they don’t believe me
To make Bach and Mozart sound musical is probably harder than most people think.....Visually the romantic virtuoso pieces seem impossible to play and Bach and Mozart seem easy to play until you try it for yourself. The clarity of sound required to play Bach and Mozart is a real challenge.
Totally agree. On romantic repertoire we have much freedom for interpretation, so we can adapt the interpetration accordingly to what we can actually do.
Αs a pianist, I couldnt agree with this more.
Yes. I’m working on Chopin’s Fantasy op. 49 and I’m finding the first climax in Eb major to be SO much easier than the weird shifts in the buildup to it
Tell you what , the beginning is the hardest part of the piece , so simple yet so hard to play it well
Only heard the first statement but as a previous concert pianist now composer it’s absolutely true.
The things which “blew peoples minds” that I would play on piano were usually easier pieces.
Simple pieces or just certain techniques are 1000000000x harder than raw speed!
Yesterday I was playing piano in a cathedral (beautiful Steinway D) but it was not quite in tune and the action was strange and the sustain infinite.
So I played Satie.
Not because the very slow simple lyrical style would be easy but because it would be so hard.
When you’re playing fast if you don’t play a couple notes PERFECTLY no one even hears it.
If it’s a piece where a slow one note melody is the whole song really then yes one minor error and you’ve devastated the song.
You killed the beauty of the melody.
But when you’re whipping around snot so.
Also consecutive thirds in runs are so much more difficult than say the c# impromptu- it all comes down to the human hand and the Human mind.
The maestro Garrick Ohlsson
"The Lisztian thing ... The dog paddle" 🐾😂
Virtuosos 🥱
Probably the hardest composer for me to play os Debussy because it's both highly complex AND needs to sound extremely easy
It fascinates me how musicians after making so many mistakes while learning, feeling all those wrong notes, are still able to feel the right ones. After all, music is not mechanical muscle memory and tempo, it is a passage, a clear one!
Brilliant
THE DOG PADDLE 😂😂😂
Rachmaninoff proveu ou trouxe às composiçōes escritas para Piano e Orquestra uma técnica mais rigorosa.. algo complementar que verdadeiramente supriu uma ausência! Além disso, há outros elementos trazidos em sua técnica.. 2023.06.07
In my opinion, slow polyphonic pieces are usually the hardest to play right. Not discarding there's also hard passages in faster pieces.
SAYS THE PIANO GENIUS! 🏆🎹🎼
This is true, I tried learning kapustin's 1st sonata first movement, got hella humbled, and I was like "well it's pretty fast and complex maybe 2nd movement will be easier since it's slower" and it was like the exact same difficulty which was very surprising.
I've been playing for 2 years and I learned a part ossia cadenza in 3 hours, so it's actually easier than the beginning of the maybe 3rd part, I don't known
bachs two part inventions are a better test of musical technique and artistic achievement than many a showpiece. their inclusion in the spectacle style virtuoso competitions would be very revealing in my opinion.
if you want to know what is difficult play music of bach.
Fearsome
The Dog Paddle aka Liberace Pawing
I wonder if Ohlsson was about to contrast these passages to the following chordal climax passages that sounds easy but is hard because of all the big leaping back and forth.
I'm learning the Ossia Cadenza right now and the chordal section is pretty damn difficult because it is in D minor - a lot of white keys you have to hit correctly while jumping around with both hands.
But overall they're not crazy difficult though, some Chopin and Liszt Etudes get REALLY difficult.
How do you get that letter on your profile picture
for real, stuff with complex inner voices is so much harder
A great example of this is the right hand figure from the end of Beethoven Pastorale piano sonata.
Name of the rachmaniniv song pls
Op 23 no 2 - sounds like a nightmare to play, actually not too hard
Op 33 no 4/5 (D minor) - doesn’t sound too hard, a nightmare to play
rock mann is da king!
And then comes Chopin Étude Op10 n2
i find any second movement of a Mozart sonata way harder to MASTER than these « virtuosic » Rach or Liszt parts
That's the case on every instrument.
Glisssss!!!!! So cute!!!
Mozart.. especially that 15th concerto of his
Link to full video please?
Please, can anybody name this piece of music?
Rachmaninoff's third piano concerto, that passage is from the ossia cadenza in the first movement
It goes to show no matter how bad your art is someone will like it.
Guys, he’s talking about idiomatic writing, not necessarily the literal technical difficulty.
i'm curious what his most dreaded rach passage is.
How about scriabin 5
Any one know the name of this piece?
I've been trying to find the name of this piece but I can't 🗿
Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto no 3 in D minor, 1st movement. This is the "ossia" candenza, the alternate one that Rachmaninoff wrote that isn't played as much as the other standard cadenza.
@@jwchew1 tank u so much
What piece would you call fearful?
I will take that Rach ANY DAY over Schubert Impromptu D. 899 No. 3.
🤔
What piece are those octaves frm?
Rach 3rd concerto I think
It's Garrick Ohlsson.
After years of trying to learn ode to joy i can say most of my favorite Rachmaninoff music is very much out of reach for my skill .
That's only one passage of so many more in a 43 minute composition. Then add tonality & tempo changes becomes a very difficult mountain to climb. There's only a handful of virtuosos able to perform it flawlessly.
I'll take obvious musical observations for 300
It’s easy for Ling Ling who practices 40 hours a day
Agree very easy )
I wanna know what he thinks is fearful
88 comments! How cool is that? 🎹
Pirates of the carribean is the hardest piece
Rachmaninoff was a typist in this piece.😂 I have never feared any pianist of the past, except Liszt. I don't even open the books which have his name on them.
The rach 3. The hardest piece in the world.
Nah, the hardest concerto
Clickbait title but good info
oh my god your hands were blur
so it means difficult when you have to move your hands in a very large field, perhaps even crossing your arms?
and speed is not taken into account, due to difficulty uh
Interesting point of view
Rachmaninoff is definitely R-rated.
How?????
So basically if you think THAT’S hard, buckle up baby
I find the beginning of C minor to be really annoying because of your hands being ontop of each other. Yes you can seperate the hands. But it makes it much harder
Well, it is a child play for Asian kids and can be played without any adult supervision... just saying, there is always Asian kids half the age plays twice as difficult passage than you think.
Rachy was tormented by the rise of the industrial age, and this torment is reflected in his compositions.
So what about an example of apparently easy Rachmaninov hard to play?
yeah rachmaninov is really easy compared to liszt.
Its ironic when a professional pianist says rachmaninoff is easy ☠️
I’ve always felt that slow pieces are harder. You can hide behind overwhelming a listener.
Jokes on you, i have tiny woman hands and can't do some of the chords just cause of distance 🥲
😂Yo..
Just play the lowest notes first and then play them all.
Pattern peices, looks like a lot going on. Less memorization=easier, All I can think of
Try playing those 11 notes in 10 beats and you know what "hard" is.
Meanwhile Bach being child's play lol
Botched the "easy" passage
"Guys, it's not that hard"
Immediately fucks it up
@@spoonkitchenwarelol
Don't try this at home 🎉😂
WHO tf says Rach is easy? This guy
Well he has played the Busoni concerto
My point was a linguistic one.
The video title suggests someone in this video asserts that "Rach is easy."
This person in the video does NOT say it's easy, and ALSO disagrees and says it
ISNT EASY AT ALL- ("get consent")
Tho he asserts that others suggest it may be.
And so the title was--
(AS MOST ALL VIDEOS FALSELY LABEL FOR SEO)
-- a reversed, false misconstrual of the contained content.
Че так плохо -то?! Ты бы играть научился. Стыдно такое выкладывать. Рахманинову бы точно не понравилось!